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theGinsue
06-24-2015, 19:01
I was just asked by Alissa Chin of KKTV news, the Colo Spr CBS affiliate, for an interview. I've lived in my home for 20 years. Apparently a child sexual predator lived up my street just a few houses away from me. Couldn't do the interview due to job restrictions. Some of you understand what I mean by that.


Details on this guy: http://www.kktv.com/news/headlines/Police-Child-Sex-Assault-Suspect-May-Have-Preyed-On-At-Least-140-Underage-Girls-309559841.html?device=tablet&c=y

ray1970
06-24-2015, 19:03
Those guys are everywhere. There is a web site you can go look up registered sex offenders. You might be surprised how many of them live nearby.

StagLefty
06-24-2015, 19:08
I won't hesitate to do what I think is right as to reporting crimes to the authorities but I wouldn't talk to the media even if they paid me.

ray1970
06-24-2015, 19:09
Here's one of the web sites. Gives you a name and address and even a picture. If any of you have children it's good to know where these people are in your neighborhood.

http://www.familywatchdog.us/

cstone
06-24-2015, 19:12
http://www.familywatchdog.us/Default.asp

http://www.nsopw.gov/en-US/Registry

http://www.city-data.com/so/sexoffenders.html

02ducky
06-24-2015, 20:12
My neice was a victim of a pedophile for 9 years. I hate, hate, hate these sick mother Fer's with a passion.

blacklabel
06-24-2015, 20:18
Here's one of the web sites. Gives you a name and address and even a picture. If any of you have children it's good to know where these people are in your neighborhood.

http://www.familywatchdog.us/
Thanks for the link.

Joe_K
06-24-2015, 20:35
Got one across the street. He found out I was a Firearms Instructor and tried talking about guns, then admitted he carries all the time and that he's a convicted felon. And his charge wasn't being caught peeing in a bush obviously as he is a registered sex offender and an admitted felon (confirmed via public records) On the plus side I have another safe direction for dry fire....jk.

sroz
06-24-2015, 20:39
As a convicted felon, how can he carry?? I think I would be talking to a LEO.

gnihcraes
06-24-2015, 20:42
Got one across the street. He found out I was a Firearms Instructor and tried talking about guns, then admitted he carries all the time and that he's a convicted felon. And his charge wasn't being caught peeing in a bush obviously as he is a registered sex offender and an admitted felon (confirmed via public records) On the plus side I have another safe direction for dry fire....jk.

Yep, I know of a recent event, known gang banger, on felony probation, at gun range renting guns and shooting for fun. Local PD, ATF, and others were called, nobody cared. Most likely they have to be caught doing something else wrong first.

hatidua
06-24-2015, 20:51
Apparently a child sexual predator lived up my street just a few houses away from me.

When I had a home in South Florida I went to that website where you can type in your zip code and it brings up where all the sex offenders live. -it's pointless there: the entire southern end of that state lights up!

Irving
06-24-2015, 21:04
Interesting article. The guy doesn't look anywhere near 25 years old.

lex137
06-24-2015, 21:22
Thanks for the posting the site I looked up my place and saw I have some chomos by my place.

cmailliard
06-24-2015, 21:31
Use to live in Castle Rock. Had no idea there was a convicted offender living up the street (next door to a co-worker). No idea till his house went up in flames one night and no it was not an accident. At first I thought it was my co-workers house and he was on shift, so I went running up there. Pretty obvious accelerant use and the house was well involved. Pretty sure the guy moved out after that.

rbeau30
06-24-2015, 21:52
I like this site. It gives recent crimes reported as well as sex offenders.

www.crimereports.com

Joe_K
06-24-2015, 21:56
As a convicted felon, how can he carry?? I think I would be talking to a LEO.
Except for I'm the newest move in on the block, and he's lived here the longest, obvious drug user/dealer, if I call the cops and he's clean, not too hard for him to figure out who ratted him out. For all I know he doesn't own/possess a firearm. I'm not a cop and I'd sooner keep an eye on him and protect my family than poke the retard bear.

crashdown
06-24-2015, 22:02
Damn...
looked up my neighborhood and there is one a few streets away.
plugged in the zip for my old hood, Northglenn, and there were hundreds.

TheGrey
06-24-2015, 22:07
http://www.colorado.gov/apps/cdps/sor/

They're everywhere. Aaaaargh. Fortunately, parents in my neighborhood either walk the children to school, or the kids tend to go in great big noisy gaggles. I do hope most people do a check for felons and sexual predators before they move to a specific neighborhood.

rbeau30
06-24-2015, 22:12
Except for I'm the newest move in on the block, and he's lived here the longest, obvious drug user/dealer, if I call the cops and he's clean, not too hard for him to figure out who ratted him out. For all I know he doesn't own/possess a firearm. I'm not a cop and I'd sooner keep an eye on him and protect my family than poke the retard bear.


I hate to say it... But, in my most recent experiences. The system is fucked. The system goes after folks that have things to loose and can be forced to contribute to the system. The system does not care about a concerned citizen reporting a possible armed convicted felon.

All reporting someone will get you is trouble. No good deed goes unpunished.

I have resolved myself to the philosophy that if it does not affect/penetrate/threaten my immediate AOR. I just observe and record.

TheGrey
06-24-2015, 22:20
If there is any concern, I can run a background using public records for people. I do quite a bit of that for people with children when they're moving into new/unknown areas, as well as "dating checks" for people. The sites provided in the thread are a great start, but each one of them has a statement that says not every criminal is listed.

I'm not trying to make people paranoid, mind you. But there are options available.

Bailey Guns
06-25-2015, 06:04
Yeah...looking at those sites makes my blood boil.

Singlestack
06-25-2015, 06:33
If there is any concern, I can run a background using public records for people. I do quite a bit of that for people with children when they're moving into new/unknown areas, as well as "dating checks" for people. The sites provided in the thread are a great start, but each one of them has a statement that says not every criminal is listed.

I'm not trying to make people paranoid, mind you. But there are options available.

Thanks Grey - a great service!

Aloha_Shooter
06-25-2015, 08:27
It boggles my mind when I look at the maps produced by these sites. I mean, I knew we had creeps and pervs out there but these pins are literally ALL OVER. WTF ...

Firehaus
06-25-2015, 08:38
The old days would have the sheriff turn a blind eye and justice would prevail with community "involvement".


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Skip
06-25-2015, 08:49
Yeah...looking at those sites makes my blood boil.

+1,000

They've turned society into "general population."

asmo
06-25-2015, 15:19
I am going to have an unpopular opinion here - but I have seen this as an outside observer, and its not pretty.

The whole "Sex Offender List" is fundamentally and totally broken. There are people on that list that *REALLY* shouldn't be there. I know of two folks, both of which lost all their rights and their entire fucking lives (can't get jobs, can't go anywhere, have to be subjected to some of the most awful tests you can think of -- routinely) just because they were in the wrong place at the wrong time. No child (or even 2nd party adult) was harmed (or even involved) in either case but due to how the laws are written, these two people are forever totally and completely fucked.

Case in point for 1 of them:

He, and his son, were in an orchard that he owned, spraying for weeds, adult jumped off his tractor and took a piss behind a tree that was 60' from the road. The son later told the mother what the father had done (son was 6 and was talking about riding on the tractor). The mother then called the cops and said the father exposed himself to the child. Everything goes fucking ape-shit. Guy is arrested, goes to county jail over a long weekend, is arraigned at 50k bond -- which he can't afford. Wife empties bank account and give him divorce papers on Monday (and moves in with her boyfriend that she had been cheating on him with for a year or so). The son is 15 now and wants to live with his dad - but cant. Son feels like it is all his fault and has tried to commit suicide twice. I won't bore you with all the other details -- but the guy is totally fucked now. Completely and totally. All because someone accused him of something he didn't do.

He is on the list - FOR LIFE. Nothing he can ever do about it. EVER.

Joe_K
06-25-2015, 15:55
Guy musta had a shitty lawyer.

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brutal
06-25-2015, 16:54
Jesus Christ.

There's one a block from here and there must be a clubhouse over in Parker Heights. One of these scumball lowlifes has

Charges and Conviction Date

8/17/1999 SEX ASSAULT-CHILD;PATTERN ABUSE


Another:

Charges and Conviction Date

3/29/2002 Attempt Sexual assault on a child

Monky
06-25-2015, 17:10
I had one raided by the fbi, molesting a girl for 10 years. A kid of his relative or something in Cali. Found the movies and everything on his computer at home. Long story short... She got Prego, went to the cops.. They recorded the convo between her and him... Talked about the video and pictures... Two days later at 10am... They swarmed his house. Guy was in his 50s. His wife had been battling cancer for years... She no longer lives in the house, haven't seen her since it was raided. It's rented out now... To a nice group of folks who have learned they don't need to fear my dog.


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02ducky
06-25-2015, 17:14
I am going to have an unpopular opinion here - but I have seen this as an outside observer, and its not pretty.

The whole "Sex Offender List" is fundamentally and totally broken. There are people on that list that *REALLY* shouldn't be there. I know of two folks, both of which lost all their rights and their entire fucking lives (can't get jobs, can't go anywhere, have to be subjected to some of the most awful tests you can think of -- routinely) just because they were in the wrong place at the wrong time. No child (or even 2nd party adult) was harmed (or even involved) in either case but due to how the laws are written, these two people are forever totally and completely fucked.

Case in point for 1 of them:

He, and his son, were in an orchard that he owned, spraying for weeds, adult jumped off his tractor and took a piss behind a tree that was 60' from the road. The son later told the mother what the father had done (son was 6 and was talking about riding on the tractor). The mother then called the cops and said the father exposed himself to the child. Everything goes fucking ape-shit. Guy is arrested, goes to county jail over a long weekend, is arraigned at 50k bond -- which he can't afford. Wife empties bank account and give him divorce papers on Monday (and moves in with her boyfriend that she had been cheating on him with for a year or so). The son is 15 now and wants to live with his dad - but cant. Son feels like it is all his fault and has tried to commit suicide twice. I won't bore you with all the other details -- but the guy is totally fucked now. Completely and totally. All because someone accused him of something he didn't do.

He is on the list - FOR LIFE. Nothing he can ever do about it. EVER.


Please do not forget that this post is about a pedophile. The other sites and information is fall out because of child rapists.

Sparky
06-25-2015, 18:52
Holy cow I need to move. They are all over.

ANADRILL
06-25-2015, 21:49
Go over and whip him down,.Tell him that if tries to act out again, then there will be a follow up lashin,

gnihcraes
06-25-2015, 22:20
I am going to have an unpopular opinion here - but I have seen this as an outside observer, and its not pretty.

The whole "Sex Offender List" is fundamentally and totally broken. There are people on that list that *REALLY* shouldn't be there. I know of two folks, both of which lost all their rights and their entire fucking lives (can't get jobs, can't go anywhere, have to be subjected to some of the most awful tests you can think of -- routinely) just because they were in the wrong place at the wrong time. No child (or even 2nd party adult) was harmed (or even involved) in either case but due to how the laws are written, these two people are forever totally and completely fucked.

Case in point for 1 of them:

He, and his son, were in an orchard that he owned, spraying for weeds, adult jumped off his tractor and took a piss behind a tree that was 60' from the road. The son later told the mother what the father had done (son was 6 and was talking about riding on the tractor). The mother then called the cops and said the father exposed himself to the child. Everything goes fucking ape-shit. Guy is arrested, goes to county jail over a long weekend, is arraigned at 50k bond -- which he can't afford. Wife empties bank account and give him divorce papers on Monday (and moves in with her boyfriend that she had been cheating on him with for a year or so). The son is 15 now and wants to live with his dad - but cant. Son feels like it is all his fault and has tried to commit suicide twice. I won't bore you with all the other details -- but the guy is totally fucked now. Completely and totally. All because someone accused him of something he didn't do.

He is on the list - FOR LIFE. Nothing he can ever do about it. EVER.

Yep, There are teens in the same situation just for grabbing a girls butt once in middle school. Scary thing to think about. Your son or daughter could be in the same boat for a seemingly normal teenage second base moment in the car.

kidicarus13
06-25-2015, 22:39
The old days would have the sheriff turn a blind eye and justice would prevail with community "involvement".


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Don't know any personally but what about... they've paid their dues, live and let live?

TheGrey
06-26-2015, 02:12
Don't know any personally but what about... they've paid their dues, live and let live?

Speaking solely on sexual offenses that are not in the category of the father/son orchard story in the thread, or the teenage angst of "he's 18 and she's 15" types, these crimes are grouped together under a single heading (Sex crimes) but are a fairly diverse group of offenses. Our society is provincial and conservative where sex is concerned; enough so that you get reactions very typical of what's in this thread when people find out there's a sex offender on their block.

Personally, I think it's with good reason.

Sex offenses are not always cut-and-dry crimes. In fact, it's one of the most under-reported crimes there is: studies show that 68% of sex crimes are never reported.

2 out of 100 rapists are convicted. Sex assaults are notoriously hard to prove.

It stands to reason that when a criminal gets away with a sex assault once, he or she will be confident enough that they can get away with it again.

Sex crimes are often a part of a pattern, and often are but one element of a larger number of offenses. For instance: breaking, entering, robbery and sexual assault. In other words, they don't always act as a stand-alone crime.

An especially vile aspect of sex crimes are that they may involve the immature, the infirm, or the incompetent. If you consider what sort of person would commit a sexual assault on someone to weak to resist, someone legally, physically, mentally and/or emotionally immature to decide if they wish to participate in such an act; or someone too old or with some sort of handicap...what are the odds that a stint in jail or a fine and a name on a list will stop them from abusing someone again? Sex crimes are not about sex.

The other aspect of such an act is that it may not be entirely voluntary on the part of the criminal. The compulsion to behave in such a manner flies in the face of the "you chose to do the crime, so you do the tie and learn from your mistakes," school of thought. A lack of control implies a good possibility of repeating the actions, and possibly escalating them.

The recidivism rate of sex criminals is difficult to determine, because sex crimes are lumped into a single category and yet have many levels. In the 1980s, it was determined that the recidivism rate of rapists was about 39% (over a period of 25 years.) The recidivism rate of child molesters was significantly higher: 52% over 25 years. There's a reason sex offenders are not supposed to be allowed to live within a certain area near parks or schools.

There is conflicting data in recidivism rates, depending on the study and the length of time granted for the research. If you were to disregard that and simply look at what you know, how wold you feel about someone living in your neighborhood that has committed a sex crime against another? What if the crime were a sex assault against a six year old? What about an 86 year old? How would you feel if they were convicted for exposure and being a Peeping Tom? Do your hackles go up at the thought of someone like that living in your community, or do you suppose that they did their time in jail and are now going to be good?

jhood001
06-26-2015, 02:33
Speaking solely on sexual offenses that are not in the category of the father/son orchard story in the thread, or the teenage angst of "he's 18 and she's 15" types, these crimes are grouped together under a single heading (Sex crimes) but are a fairly diverse group of offenses. Our society is provincial and conservative where sex is concerned; enough so that you get reactions very typical of what's in this thread when people find out there's a sex offender on their block.

Personally, I think it's with good reason.


Usually good reason. Very insightful and well informed post.

Here is my recent experience in the matter:


A very close and dear friend of mine found himself with two children he loved more than anything else and a (crazy) wife who wanted out so that she could peruse the southern Californian dream of fake boobs, a nice car and the 'new american dream'.

What followed were accusations of child molestation and physical abuse towards her. She claimed it all just before filing for divorce... and she dropped it all on him after a girlfriend or hers executed the same maneuver in her divorce proceedings and won big.

I've spent enough time with the guy over a decade to know that he has a heart of gold... and possibly poor judgement in a spouse.

Long story short - he fought it. Submitted himself to some ridiculous psych evals, lie detector tests, and even a test that they only administer in prisons against known sexual predators -and he did it voluntarily. More or less, they read you stories of truly horrific pedophilia shit while they measure the reaction of your junk while it has a band around it. The tests and his legal representation cost him his entire life savings. And he didn't have access to his children for the better part of a year.

He passed. Not because of the system or the testing, but because he had the funds to make sure a legal presence was there and he could pay for the testing every step of the way.

*I'd hang a pedophile that I personally caught in the act in my own back yard. Then I'd piss on him and burn the corpse with gasoline.... and I'd invite anyone who didn't mind consuming charred pedophile smoke over to make smores.

But the current system overly enables the accuser. 'Innocent until proven guilty' doesn't seem to apply in all regards of the law. An accusation seems to be enough. Or least it does in California under my naive understanding of the law.

My point is: it isn't a perfect system. I've been very close to the absolute worst of what the system can do. A simple accusation can ruin your entire life and possibly put you on a list forever. An accusation with no evidence.

A spiked sledgehammer should be swung at those who are adequately convicted - by a jury with evidence. But the system is broken in its current form.


*Note: I would not go vigilante on a pedophile.

**Note: Yeah, I would.

With that said, I would always rather error on the side of caution when it comes to sexual abuse towards minors. But 'caution' should be a massive investigation. Not punishment prior to a conviction.