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def90
08-10-2015, 20:28
So some TSA Agent makes a twitter post today and says this..

"This is one of 2 loaded firearms #TSA (https://twitter.com/hashtag/TSA?src=hash) found @DENAirport (https://twitter.com/DENAirport) security chkpts today in checked bags. Different passengers."

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CMFJEBxUcAEv96u.jpg

I say bullshit, Why would a checked bag be going through a TSA checkpoint?



http://kdvr.com/2015/08/10/two-loaded-guns-found-by-tsa-official-at-denver-airport/

DENVER — A TSA spokesperson for Colorado reported that two loaded fire arms were found inside checked bags at Denver International Airport on Monday.
The spokesperson said the two fire arms were located in two different passengers’ checked bags.
She posted a photo of one of the weapons on twitter.

http://twitter.com/TSAmedia_Carrie/status/630865757283450881/photo/1

The names of the passenger’s who were carrying them were not released or if they were permitted to do so.

BPTactical
08-10-2015, 20:31
Hooray!
What was it a year or so ago? 70 planted weapons and 67 got through undetected.

TSA is a feel good agency.
You "feel" safer...

XC700116
08-10-2015, 20:34
Whenever you check a bag and declare a firearm you and the airline representative go straight to a TSA checkpoint for the hand off. I'd be willing to bet it was 2 instances of idiots not properly securing and casing their weapons, and then checking them, or just throwing them in their checked baggage thinking that's all they needed to do.

Also I'm about 99% positive all checked baggage is X-ray inspected before going out to the plane, some airports still have the machines out in the check in area and you hand it off to a TSA representative and they put it through the machine before it goes on the belt to baggage handling.

OtterbatHellcat
08-10-2015, 20:50
TSA is a feel good agency.
You "feel" safer...

Total Joke.

Aloha_Shooter
08-10-2015, 20:59
OP: were you were aware that TSA also X-rays or does chemical analysis on a great deal of the checked baggage going through major airports? I can't swear to DEN but I know HNL and several other airports I've gone through have all checked luggage passing through TSA X-ray machines.

275RLTW
08-10-2015, 21:18
There is more TSA than just the personnel scanners and carry on x rays screeners.

cstone
08-10-2015, 21:30
There is a very nice video of the in-line system linked to this page:

http://blog.tsa.gov/2008/03/how-we-do-what-we-do-baggage-screening.html

In DEN, if you bag doesn't go to the room on the east side of Level 6 (behind the Frontier ticket counters) it is assumed that passengers have not declared a weapon. If they find it and it wasn't declared, you may lose the weapon to the Denver Police Department and be fined by the federal government.

gnihcraes
08-10-2015, 21:52
I want to load my luggage with springy snakes, next time they open it up for inspection... BOING! wonder how that would go over?

buckshotbarlow
08-10-2015, 22:38
I want to load my luggage with springy snakes, next time they open it up for inspection... BOING! wonder how that would go over?
Perfect...

brutal
08-10-2015, 22:42
TSA goes into my Pelican tool case 99% of the time I fly with it. They Always leave a nice little note and repack it like shit. I started leaving them all sitting on top for them to see along with a note to PLEASE REPACK IT THE WAY YOU FOUND IT.

jhood001
08-11-2015, 01:16
I've never understood why a checked bag requires special circumstances if it contains a firearm.

A bomb in a bag is a cause for concern for the aircraft and the passengers. A firearm in a checked bag is... just a firearm in a checked bag.

Maybe I'm missing something. Or perhaps I need to watch some more Hollywood films where a bad guy somehow makes his way from the cabin to the cargo area. Yeah, that's what I need. More movies to shape my understanding of reality. Maybe I can run for office after I've seen enough of them.

A checked bag with a firearm in it is just a checked bag.

Now, I can see a possible threat from bag handlers who know of or discover a firearm in a checked bag. But that should require increased scrutiny on airport and airline personnel. Not on my inanimate bag and its inanimate contents.

cstone
08-11-2015, 07:16
In the past, there have been loaded firearms in checked bags that have discharged. It is a rare occurrence, but has happened.

Long before TSA all the way till today, airlines have transported unloaded, properly packed, and declared firearms and ammunition in checked bags. I don't understand why someone would pack a loaded firearm in their checked bag. PMAGS are an acceptable ammunition container on most of the airlines I've flown on, they just shouldn't be inserted into the magazine well.

Unloaded, inside an unmarked, locked hardsided container. Declare at the ticket counter, fill out a declaration form and a copy will be placed inside the container. If the container is small enough, it can go inside your checked bag. At DEN the bag or container goes to the room described above to be run through a machine similar to the larger machines downstairs. If the machine does not alarm, the bag is NOT opened and no one asks for your keys. If the machine alarms, someone from TSA will step out and ask you for your key. You can stand outside the room and watch as they open the container. When they finish, they will lock up the container and return your key. If you see a problem while TSA is searching your bag, that is the time to ask for a supervisor. After your bag or container clear that room, the bag is taken by the airline to the aircraft. It doesn't go via the same route as all of the other bags which are scanned downstairs. If TSA finds a firearm in a checked bag downstairs it is assumed that the gun was not declared and the airlines and Denver PD are notified.

TSA employees are not permitted to handle firearms while searching bags. They are required to call the airlines, who normally notify the passenger and the local police.

If anyone has any specific questions related to firearms at an airport, drop me a PM.

Be safe.

hatidua
08-11-2015, 08:02
I do not recall the last time that my checked bags were not opened by TSA, along with the note saying they'd been in there. I just assume it will be opened while en route now.

3beansalad
08-11-2015, 08:32
Never had my bag opened by TSA at DIA, always been hand inspected at other airports on the return flight however. As long as you declare the process is surprisingly easy. (Though I was a little nervous the first time I did it.) The first return was fun with three firearms packed into my bag. The inspector in Atlanta was quite shocked when she saw them all packed in there. Plus ammo.

sent via electronic leash

izzy
08-11-2015, 08:49
A guy I work with used to be in charge of security at DIA. I want to ask him what the thought process is. Typically when I talk to him though he says something along the lines of "I'm not at liberty to discuss that".