Vehicle license renewal "taxable value" - where do they come up with this "stuff"?

[Circuits]

Happened to look at the renewal for my beater pickup, a 96 F150 V6 2WD. "TX VAL" (taxable value?) listed as 12830. I might get 5K for it on a good day in a private sale.

ownership tax is only $3, most of if ($75.67) is the democrap-inflated license fee they've been using to get around tabor and pump up the general fund for their pet projects, but really?

Where do they come up with this assessment? Is there any way to appeal it, and would it do any good to get it reduced?

ETA - OK, so that was the "original sale price" of the vehicle, and the ownership tax is a prorated amount of that, capped at a minimum $3 after 10 years.

[StagLefty]

I have a 2001 Ranger and just renewed last week. $105 with emission test and next year without test it'll be $105 any way.

[ray1970]

I used to put plates on brand new trucks back in Texas for about $45. And the roads are much better maintained.

Should have seen the look on my face the first time I went to get plates for a new truck in Colorado.

[TFOGGER]

Yeah, I have 2 motorcycles renewals due this month, $48.77 each. For bikes that are pretty much used off road, and are 11 and 30 years old. They used to be about $17 each. Fuck you, Bill Ritter!

[newracer]

My pop up camper is $78, used to be around $25.

[Irving]

I've written something similar on a tag renewal check once, TFog.

[Dave_L]

Colorado is a rip off on so many levels now.

[Erni]

Yup my little trailer was 40 or so last year. It gets used 3 times a year for landscaping cleanups etc. So about 15 bucks per use.

[sellersm]

Common Core math at its finest!!

[hurley842002]

Have to get tags for my new (to me) Xterra at the end of the month, definitely not looking forward to seeing the price tag.

[Bailey Guns]

It rose to a whopping $69 ($25 for motorcycles) to register a vehicle one or two years old in Idaho this year. People are upset at the increase from $48. I'm thrilled.

[hghclsswhitetrsh]

I'm still walking with a limp after paying for plates on my new 15 duramax.

[hurley842002]

Oh I don't envy you late model diesel guys at all, my 11 Xterra will probably be half that of a 15 dura max .

[Jim B]

I have a trailer I bought at Harbor Freight seven years ago for, IIRC, about $230. I just paid the registration on it and it was $44 for a year. $44 x seven years = $308, so I've now paid far more in registration fees than I paid for the &#@$ing thing. [Rant1]

[BushMasterBoy]

You don't really own anything, you just rent it from the government.

[sniper7]

I'm still walking with a limp after paying for plates on my new 15 duramax.

I was in a wheelchair for mine.

[roberth]

According the to government ALL the money is theirs, if the government raises taxes and fee it is because they're reclaiming more of what is originally theirs.

Ain't that nice. [Flower]

[Big E3]

The "taxable value" is the original sales price of the vehicle when it was new. I have six vehicles I buy plates for each year.

My 94 Suburban was $117 this year and I drove 200 miles all year. Add to that insurance and the diesel requiring E testing every year. Even though it's paid for, I think my monthly rent payment just to "own it" is getting a little high. The odometer did turn 49K miles this year though.

[hobowh]

I was in a wheelchair for mine.
Tell me about it... Just did the renewal on mine it dropped a little over 200 from the first hit

oh and the listed taxable value is supposed to be the original taxable value... I asked

[Danimal]

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[CO Hugh]

Good to know the money is being put to good use: http://www.bizjournals.com/denver/blog/capitol_business/2015/08/audit-criticizes-funding-program-for-colorado.html

[Jer]

Welcome to why we have kept the same cars & trucks for about 4 years now. The price to license a new or newer vehicle is absurd. Way to kill the auto industry Colorado! That will help everyone!!

[jerrymrc]

The "taxable value" is the original sales price of the vehicle when it was new. I have six vehicles I buy plates for each year.

My 94 Suburban was $117 this year and I drove 200 miles all year. Add to that insurance and the diesel requiring E testing every year. Even though it's paid for, I think my monthly rent payment just to "own it" is getting a little high. The odometer did turn 49K miles this year though.

My 98 Dodge Diesel was the same way. $160 + $50 + $60 a month to insure...... the last two years I had it I put about 300 miles on the thing. Once I sold the camper It was not used much. It was was just about time for new tires and lines. I at least made money on it from the time I bought it. I paid $10k the kid that hit it paid $6k and I sold it for $5k.[Flower]

[Alpha2]

The first time we paid to register a car in Colo. my wife cried. It was the shock, really. You'd think that for that kind of money, you wouldn't have to risk blown tires and bent rims every time you drove. Sooo, we know it's not going to the roads...where is it going?

I'm kidding, we all know where it's going.

[brutal]

Good to know the money is being put to good use: http://www.bizjournals.com/denver/blog/capitol_business/2015/08/audit-criticizes-funding-program-for-colorado.html

Kudos to Chris Holbert (COAR15 member SENHOLBERT (https://www.ar-15.co/members/10669-SenHolbert)) for being a part of the Legislative Audit Committee that's exposing this.

[Jer]

Kudos to Chris Holbert (COAR15 member SENHOLBERT (https://www.ar-15.co/members/10669-SenHolbert)) for being a part of the Legislative Audit Committee that's exposing this.

+1

This is blatantly ripping off the citizens of this state and putting a BIG damper on certain industries that our economy relies on. As I stated previously, my wife and I would go through cars/trucks every 6 months to a year and this wasn't uncommon at all among people we know. As needs change or as simply wanting something different happened we would trade in or sell and buy another vehicle. The penalty for this wasn't huge from a registration stand-point so it was all about the deal we got as to how much money we lost or made. I recall paying for new registration on my 2007 Audi A4 after the law changes about 4-5yrs ago and paying nearly $800 in registration fees (no tax.... registration only of a car I had owned a year or two) and then less than a month later trading it in on a brand new Kia Optima. After title work had changed hands and I was able to register my new Kia do you have any idea how much of that $800+ was credited back to me? About $150. That's around $700 for 2 months of use of a car that was several years old! That coupled with the insane registration rate of our new Optima along with the tax amount (paid cash) I was forced to make the decision that we were done buying new or even slightly older vehicles. I got rid of my wife's car (Camry Hybrid) and gave her the Optima and got a Tacoma (most reliable truck/vehicle that met our needs) and unless something unforeseen happens we will make due with these two vehicles for the foreseeable future. Whatever dollars we used to pump into the local economy in the form of car dealership sales, helping others sell their vehicle to buy something they needed or in accessorizing the new vehicles will now be forever lost. I know quite a few people who echo the same sentiment and if you know anyone in car or car accessory sales we're not alone. It's this narrow-minded leadership that is costing our economy in a big way but thanks to pot it's being completely ignored. Yeah pot! lol

[rbeau30]

The state sends me a new sticker for my DV plate every year. [Beer]

I should have put that plate on the wife's 2014 GTI instead of the suburban, but I get into the state parks with the plate for free so it makes more sense to put it on the suburban.

You would think with all of the surplus revenue that the MJers are donating to the coffers, other taxes would go down, but no... it is much easier to raise taxes than it is to lower them.

[GilpinGuy]

I have a trailer I bought at Harbor Freight seven years ago for, IIRC, about $230. I just paid the registration on it and it was $44 for a year. $44 x seven years = $308, so I've now paid far more in registration fees than I paid for the &#@$ing thing. [Rant1]

I have one of those trailers. A few weeks go I went to register and got hit with a $10 additional fee because the tags were up in February. I didn't need to use it so I didn't renew. I asked the guy at DMV, "So, I need to register this trailer, even if I don't plan on using it, or I get fined?"

Yes. [facepalm]

[Jim B]

And let's not forget the $25 per month "personal property tax" they hit you with if you don't register a motorcycle within two months of purchase. (Not sure how much it is for other vehicles.) They tax the %$&@ing thing while it's sitting in your garage going nowhere and putting zero wear and tear on the public roads.[bs]

[DavieD55]

Y'all think the taxes are high now, just wait until the communists win their lawsuit against TABOR so they can levy or rather extort from taxpayers tax revenue directly from the legislature instead of needing voter approval first.

[jerrymrc]

Y'all think the taxes are high now, just wait until the communists win their lawsuit against TABOR so they can levy or rather extort from taxpayers tax revenue directly from the legislature instead of needing voter approval first.

Say what you will about the crazy guy but without TABOR we would be screwed about now. Our taxes would make NJ look cheap.

[DavieD55]

Say what you will about the crazy guy but without TABOR we would be screwed about now. Our taxes would make NJ look cheap.

If you're referring D. Bruce I believe we could sure use a few more of his kind in the state legislature. Seriously. [Coffee]

[Big E3]

Say what you will about the crazy guy but without TABOR we would be screwed about now. Our taxes would make NJ look cheap.

Exactly, if we didn't have Tabor we would be trillions in debt like Kalifornia within five years.

[Gman]

I used to put plates on brand new trucks back in Texas for about $45. And the roads are much better maintained.

Should have seen the look on my face the first time I went to get plates for a new truck in Colorado.
Should have heard the words coming out of my mouth. I had no idea. Cost me more than 2 payments...for plates. I had to leave and come back when I had enough money.

[hurley842002]

Should have heard the words coming out of my mouth. I had no idea. Cost me more than 2 payments...for plates. I had to leave and come back when I had enough money.

Will they give you a temp extension?

[ben4372]

You all are depressing. Related, they changed the way the Arapahoe county DMV works. You get a number and they base your wait on what you are there to do. Took hour and half to apply for title and get plates for a trailer. Worst system ever. But at least it was it expensive.

[ray1970]

I am pretty excited it finally costs less than $200 to register my motorcycle now.

[Skip]

I am pretty excited it finally costs less than $200 to register my motorcycle now.

This is the dumbest of all consequences. Bikes produce less wear and more environmentally friendly (for the ecotards). They should be promoted.

My 1995 KLR gets 50+ MPG and weighs 400lbs dry. It cost $58 this year. Used to be under $25 before the Ritter taxes.

In Florida, they do it right. Renewals were $16 and there is no insurance requirement on bikes--of course you are stupid to not have some medical but freedom is dangerous.

[Gman]

Will they give you a temp extension?
Not sure. I had another couple of weeks on the paper tags.

[ray1970]

This is the dumbest of all consequences. Bikes produce less wear and more environmentally friendly (for the ecotards). They should be promoted.

My 1995 KLR gets 50+ MPG and weighs 400lbs dry. It cost $58 this year. Used to be under $25 before the Ritter taxes.

In Florida, they do it right. Renewals were $16 and there is no insurance requirement on bikes--of course you are stupid to not have some medical but freedom is dangerous.
I hear you. My post was meant in sarcasm. I just haven't figured out how to post the smilies from Tapatalk.

My bike is four years old and I think it was about $185 when I renewed it.

I could have put tags on my truck back in Texas for almost four years for that kind of money.

[jmg8550]

In 2001, I bought an '85 Mustang GT. The first time I put plates on it, it cost $400. After that, it was just under $100 a year. Wyoming isn't much cheaper.