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BlasterBob
10-08-2015, 15:02
Since we have not yet closed on our newest house in Illinois, I have NO permanent address as yet. Of course need a permanent address to get a newly required DL, vehicle title, registration, plates, FOID card and CCW. Went into a local "mom & pop" gun shop and told them that I am well aware of the necessary requirements and I am still waiting on a permanent address before I can possibly apply for the required firearm related papers but just have a simple question. Pulled my CO CCW out of my wallet and before I could tell him that I am well aware of the CO CCW is not honored/recognized in IL, I was kind shouted at telling me that my CCW doesn't mean a dang thing here in IL. I told him that I know that but how many of the required 18 hours of CCW preparation will my CO CCW account for.
The salesman did not know the answer but indicated only the CCW Instructor makes his own personal decision on how many hours the out of State CCW card will deduct from the IL requirement. Sounds like my getting an Illinois CCW may be a bit complicated. :-((
Getting good advice on just about anything in gun stores can be like playing dice.
Are there any alternative CCW instructors in the area? I understand that in IL, you are not even allowed to touch a gun in the store unless you provide them with your FOID card.
Same country, 1000 miles away, and in many ways you may as well be in another hemisphere.
Can you use a relative's address as a temporary until you find a home?
Moved to IL...you have my condolences...
BlasterBob
10-08-2015, 16:11
Getting good advice on just about anything in gun stores can be like playing dice.
Are there any alternative CCW instructors in the area? I understand that in IL, you are not even allowed to touch a gun in the store unless you provide them with your FOID card.
Same country, 1000 miles away, and in many ways you may as well be in another hemisphere.
Can you use a relative's address as a temporary until you find a home?
Well Chuck, we should have a permanent address in about two weeks so until then, I won't be messing around with my stash.
Yes, on the FOID card. Even at gunshows, the vendor (even the individual non-FFL seller) will not allow a firearm to be even touched until the prospective buyer displays a current/valid FOID. If the seller IS a non-FFL guy, he is required, by IL law, to keep the complete sale record for a minimum of ten years. Now Illinois probably does have some good points but I have yet to discover them.
BlasterBob
10-08-2015, 16:17
Moved to IL...you have my condolences...
This move is/was not my choice. My BOSS (Wife/Warden) thought this was necessary due to some health issues that I am in the middle of. Didn't care to have to transport my old carcass from Colorado to Illinois where our three offspring reside. So, I'll just have to make the best of living in unfriendly/enemy territory.
Family comes first! IMO, you did what any responsible husband and father would have done Bob.
But you already knew that. [Beer]
theGinsue
10-08-2015, 16:36
Family comes first! IMO, you did what any responsible husband and father would have done Bob.
But you already knew that. [Beer]
+1
I moved out of IL (Southern, 20 miles East of St. Louis) in '95. I spend 2 tours at Scott AFB, living there 9 years over a 10 year span. The whole FOID situation was bad then, but it sounds as though it's gotten much worse. I still have to go through that area on my way to Western KY from time to time but should only have a couple move visits there before the ties are cut (moving possessions & selling my late in-laws home). I cringe every time I drive through IL as I always travel with a handgun. I don't miss living there one bit!
Now Illinois probably does have some good points but I have yet to discover them.
No less than 8 interstate highways that lead out of the state? [Dunno]
SamuraiCO
10-08-2015, 17:25
We can see how well those laws have helped violence in Chicago.
Great-Kazoo
10-08-2015, 19:03
We can see how well those laws have helped violence in Chicago.
IT'S THE GUNS STUIPID !!
[Sarcasm2]
This move is/was not my choice. My BOSS (Wife/Warden) thought this was necessary due to some health issues that I am in the middle of. Didn't care to have to transport my old carcass from Colorado to Illinois where our three offspring reside. So, I'll just have to make the best of living in unfriendly/enemy territory.
We will keep a place warm for your eventual return. :)
Since we have not yet closed on our newest house in Illinois, I have NO permanent address as yet. Of course need a permanent address to get a newly required DL, vehicle title, registration, plates, FOID card and CCW. Went into a local "mom & pop" gun shop and told them that I am well aware of the necessary requirements and I am still waiting on a permanent address before I can possibly apply for the required firearm related papers but just have a simple question. Pulled my CO CCW out of my wallet and before I could tell him that I am well aware of the CO CCW is not honored/recognized in IL, I was kind shouted at telling me that my CCW doesn't mean a dang thing here in IL. I told him that I know that but how many of the required 18 hours of CCW preparation will my CO CCW account for.
The salesman did not know the answer but indicated only the CCW Instructor makes his own personal decision on how many hours the out of State CCW card will deduct from the IL requirement. Sounds like my getting an Illinois CCW may be a bit complicated. :-((
It may not be as complicated as you think.
It sounds as though you shouldn't even breathe around a gun store until you have a permanent address. Those gun store owners seem to be high-strung.
If the CCW instructors have such discretion, I would do my very best to treat them with humble respect (earned or otherwise) and be ready for a quiz to beat all quizzes (all the while answering/demonstrating politely.) It may be that you have to suck up 18 hours more of preparation, but if the CCW instruction determines you're okay and not a know-it-all from the Wild Wild West, they may knock of a few of those hourly requirements after they discover your depth of understanding on the use of firearms.
HoneyBadger
10-09-2015, 09:09
Same country, 1000 miles away, and in many ways you may as well be in another hemisphere.
Tell me about it... [facepalm]
BlasterBob
10-09-2015, 12:08
It may not be as complicated as you think.
It sounds as though you shouldn't even breathe around a gun store until you have a permanent address. Those gun store owners seem to be high-strung.
If the CCW instructors have such discretion, I would do my very best to treat them with humble respect (earned or otherwise) and be ready for a quiz to beat all quizzes (all the while answering/demonstrating politely.) It may be that you have to suck up 18 hours more of preparation, but if the CCW instruction determines you're okay and not a know-it-all from the Wild Wild West, they may knock of a few of those hourly requirements after they discover your depth of understanding on the use of firearms.
BlasterBob
10-09-2015, 12:26
It may not be as complicated as you think.
It sounds as though you shouldn't even breathe around a gun store until you have a permanent address. Those gun store owners seem to be high-strung.
If the CCW instructors have such discretion, I would do my very best to treat them with humble respect (earned or otherwise) and be ready for a quiz to beat all quizzes (all the while answering/demonstrating politely.) It may be that you have to suck up 18 hours more of preparation, but if the CCW instruction determines you're okay and not a know-it-all from the Wild Wild West, they may knock of a few of those hourly requirements after they discover your depth of understanding on the use of firearms.
Yes, I will be VERY humble, and not appear to be a "know it all" since I have never claimed to be an expert at anything. And I certainly won't be flaunting my knowledge of firearms, safety etc. My first shot (with a firearm) was on the very same day that President FDR passed away (in 1945) - and I was only 8 1/2 years old on that particular day and I have done a lot of shooting since then so hopefully the CCW schooling will merely be a refresher course for this old fart.
+1
Used to think something like a FOID might work but the more I found out how they abuse it there and how much it does not work.......
Really messed up place. I hope it never spreads and can't imagine what got you to go there.
Moved to IL...you have my condolences...
BlasterBob
10-10-2015, 08:29
+1
Used to think something like a FOID might work but the more I found out how they abuse it there and how much it does not work.......
Really messed up place. I hope it never spreads and can't imagine what got you to go there.
I can assure you, I would MUCH rather have stayed in CO but to keep peace in the family, I collected my 55 year accumulation of "stuff" and moved to the unfriendly (gun unfriendly that is) enemy territory of ILLINOIS. This is where I will spend my final days unless I happen to croak while making a visit back in Trinidad. ;-))
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