View Full Version : Glock vs XD
Im sure this has been beat to death but Im in the market for one of these! I would like some real world feedback on the following models...pros and cons
XDsc9/40...havent decided which caliber I want(already carry a .40)
G26/27...same as above
G19...because I dont have one[Beer]
I havent really tried any of these guys on but I remember glock feeling weird in my hands. Ive only shot the compact XD45 and that was a great pistol. So anyways please leave some feedback like, you liked the XD trigger more than the glock etc...TIA
StagLefty
08-14-2009, 17:28
A couple of years ago I had a chance to shoot almost every Glock available at a training session,thought they were a great gun BUT they just never fit my hand right. The XD's I've had a chance to handle feel a lot better in my paws. That said I settled on a Walther P99 .40-it's all about personal preference !! [Beer]
Driftwood
08-14-2009, 18:00
http://www.co-ar15.com/forums/showthread.php?t=14304
But for the record again I vote G19. If you're willing to try a new caliber there's nothing better than a G19. Run of the mill, FMJ 9mm is much cheaper than comparable .40.
However, if you already use .40 you might want to stick with a G27 or even a G23 (same size - Compact - as the G19).
Driftwood
08-14-2009, 18:03
http://www.co-ar15.com/forums/showthread.php?t=14046
MichiganMilitia
08-17-2009, 00:40
it's all about personal preference !! [Beer]
+1000
If it doesn't feel "right" in your hand, how can you expect to become proficient in its operation? I'm a big fan of "personal philosophy of use." i.e: What is your purpose for owning it? What do you plan on doing with it? Desert Eagles (.50 cal) are fun to shoot, but just not practical for most situations (like concealed carry).
I like Glocks a lot and the G26 is a great gun, but I just can't stand my little pinky finger hanging down off the bottom of the handgrip... so I thought I would just get the +2 mag extension. That felt a lot better, but then I was handed a G19. Side by side, they are almost the exact same size, but the fuller grip on the G19 just felt "right" for me. The grip on XDs is not "right" for me, so I cannot enjoy shooting them as much. Walther grips fit my hands perfectly. Happy hands = happy shooting = better shooting experiences.
It's such a personal preference thing!
Personal preference is VERY important, but there are a few technical things that may occur with each pistol that may help guide you. For example... My XDM 9mm holds 19 plus 1, but yesterday I noticed that 2 of my mags do not eject very easily when full. This is not convenient when running quick action drills.
I know its all about personal preference and I tried both the G26 and the XDsc9 yesterday. I carry a Hk P2000 in .40 now and love it, I gave it some thought and I've decided against both the XD and the glock. I'm looking for another HK P2000 but the sk model in 9mm now. The XD felt better in my hands than the glock by far so if I were choose between the two, it would be the XD. Thanks for the comments guys [Beer]
Glock all the way. It feels better in my hands, and they run great. I'm a big fan of the 19 and 23. Great after market support for glocks as well.
I had an xd I purchased soon after they began being imported by Springfield. It would not run well for me at all. It had alot of hiccups not caused by the operator.
GLOCK doesn't have a fully supported chamber in 40. Just something to think about.
SA Friday
09-29-2009, 11:14
EERW has a Sig 2340 for sale in the classifieds. Very similar to the P2000, and you can't beat the price for a pristine pistol.
jackmode9316
09-29-2009, 11:32
GLOCK doesn't have a fully supported chamber in 40. Just something to think about.
What do you mean?
Open up your gun, take out your barrel, and drop a 9mm case into the chamber. The barrel should cover the case the same amount on all sides. In the case of the GLOCK 40s (at least 1st and 2nd gens, I don't know about 3rd and 4th gens), the curve of the ramp is cut into the chamber in such a way that the entire chamber is not supported.
Whenever you hear about "GLOCK Kaboom" it is more likely than not, a .40 S&W that has exploded because of a case failure at this point. .40 tends to be a round that is loaded near the edge of the case strength (that's why you won't find .40 in +p loads), so if there is ever a weak case, it is likely to blow out the bottom where the chamber is not supported.
I've seen a thread that had pictures of different guns and their respective chamber support, but I don't remember where it was. Probably on Arf.com though.
OgenRwot
10-02-2009, 10:15
There is no 4th gen Glock, the new frame/slide combo is still considered Gen 3, they call it the RTF.
Go shoot both. Decide what you like best. I'm a die hard Glock fan, I love the things. But they are both great pistols.
OgenRwot
10-02-2009, 10:23
GLOCK doesn't have a fully supported chamber in 40. Just something to think about.
This is a non issue. Lots of pistols don't have fully supported barrels. Think about how many 40s are out there and how many have KB'd. It got blown out of proportion because of the intrawebz. Most of the problems were caused by fatigued brass (ie too many reloads for one case) or by using lead bullets that fouled the hexagonal rifling.
How does fouled rifling cause the case to explode?
SSChameleon
10-02-2009, 19:37
Lead bullets will leave lead fouling in the barrel. If it builds up enough it will begin to constrict the diameter of the barrel. The effect over time is the same size projectile being forced down a smaller barrel. This builds pressure and can cause a KB.
Great info here guys but, I bought a P2000sk a little over a month ago from a member here. I actually shot several rounds thru a G27 and wanted to buy it off the guy but for now I will stick with the P2000 and its little brother(sk) for my carry choice right now.
Lead bullets will leave lead fouling in the barrel. If it builds up enough it will begin to constrict the diameter of the barrel. The effect over time is the same size projectile being forced down a smaller barrel. This builds pressure and can cause a KB.
Well sure, but how many rounds without cleaning would that take? 7,000? Only 1,000?
I've handled an HK P2000 and I thought it was a pretty slick gun. Good choice.
SSChameleon
10-04-2009, 11:49
I'm really not sure on the round count. I think it's something we should send to MythBusters to be tested! I don't shoot LRN so it's not something I think about too much, just something I've seen pop up on other forums and heard about.
On a related note, I was shooting some old 22 thunderbolt in a revolver once. After about 60 rounds I went home and cleaned it. A significant amount of lead came out with the first patch. There was enough lead that it came out of the rifling like little lead ribbons. It took me the better part of an afternoon to get that barrel clean. Since then I've stuck to copper jacket rounds in the 22 and all my other firearms.
I think it's safe to say we have strayed from the original topic. With that in mind I will just say Glock and XD are both good, reliable guns and you should go with what feels best to you.
It's okay that we went off topic because Opie already picked up an HK P2000.
Now, tell me more about these copper jacketed .22s. I didn't think that copper jacketed .22 existed. Do you mean copper plated?
I only ask, because I brought up this same issue (of the existence of copper jacketed .22) on another board in reference to using a suppressor. Shooting .22 is dirty as heck and cleaning cans gets to be a hassle because of it. A simple copper jacketed .22 would solve the problem.
SSChameleon
10-04-2009, 14:41
I mean copper plated. IMO they are much easier to clean and my buddy swears he gets the tightest groups out of his Buckmark with them.
BUT IT GOES BANG EVERYTIME FOR A LONG TIME.
Unless you're limp wristing. ;)
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