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Has anyone wondered why the media isn't posting pictures of the wife?
there has to be some pictures of her to show. They have found several of the husband, but I'm not seeing a lot of her.
Chickenlooper ordered flags flown at half mast over this event.
Why?
Actually I think he did it for Irvs' chicken.
http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/12/04/d668c8c7d6174345d3b1cab2deedbb34.jpg
Actually I think he did it for Irvs' chicken.
LOL
Chickenlooper ordered flags flown at half mast over this event.
Why?
I don't understand. I would assume it's for those we've lost. Are you bring facetious about his motives?
FIFY
Not to sound overly dramatic, but we are truly at a fucked up point in this country's history. I am not optimistic. But I'm just a tax slave, so the polititians don't give a shit what I think (or you).
The best we can hope for is an amicable divorce. But my money says that won't happen.
Chickenlooper ordered flags flown at half mast over this event.
Why?
Because gun violence. This was almost as bad as a week in Chicago during the summer months.
68Charger
12-04-2015, 10:16
Has anyone wondered why the media isn't posting pictures of the wife?
there has to be some pictures of her to show. They have found several of the husband, but I'm not seeing a lot of her.
Found one: 62518
Has anyone wondered why the media isn't posting pictures of the wife?
there has to be some pictures of her to show. They have found several of the husband, but I'm not seeing a lot of her.
Interesting info on the female from Shoebat
http://shoebat.com/2015/12/03/88800/
^^^Unfortunately, I believe the shoebat article I posted actually has pics of the shooter's brother, who is a Navy vet, and his wife
I don't understand. I would assume it's for those we've lost. Are you bring facetious about his motives?
I've always thought that half-mast should be reserved for military, police, fire that have died in the line of duty.
Here we go again - worried about the anti-musloid backlash instead of the anti-american war taking place.
If there had been appropriate backlash after 9/11, we would not be repeating this conversation now.
http://www.weaselzippers.us/243543-attorney-general-loretta-lynch-vows-to-prosecute-those-who-use-anti-muslim-speech-that-edges-toward-violence/
The day after a horrific shooting spree by a “radicalized” Muslim man and his partner in San Bernardino, California, Attorney General Loretta Lynch pledged to a group of Muslim activists that she would take aggressive action against anyone who used “anti-Muslim rhetoric” that “edges toward violence.”
Speaking to the audience at the Muslim Advocate’s 10th anniversary dinner Thursday, Lynch said her “greatest fear” is the “incredibly disturbing rise of anti-Muslim rhetoric” in America and vowed to prosecute any guilty of what she deemed violence-inspiring speech.
I'll let you know how it turns out since I am destined for this list.
I've always thought that half-mast should be reserved for military, police, fire that have died in the line of duty.
Yep, it has become trivialized.
http://www.usflag.org/nff.half.staff.html
I've always thought that half-mast should be reserved for military, police, fire that have died in the line of duty.
I think that fact escaped me. Thanks for explaining.
Chickenlooper ordered flags flown at half mast over this event.
Why?
Because his BFF barry told him to.
gov's homepage (https://www.colorado.gov/pacific/governor/news/gov-hickenlooper-orders-flags-lowered-honor-victims-attack-san-bernardino)
Gov. Hickenlooper orders flags lowered to honor the victims of the attack in San Bernardino
DENVER — Thursday, Dec. 3, 2015 — Gov. John Hickenlooper today ordered flags be flown at half-staff on all public buildings statewide beginning immediately through December 7 in honor of the victims of the attack in San Bernardino, and as proclaimed by President Barack Obama. The governor previously ordered state flags lowered as a mark of respect for the victims of the shootings in Colorado Springs. This order extends previous order.
The full text of the president’s proclamation:
THE WHITE HOUSE
Office of the Press Secretary
For Immediate Release Dec. 3, 2015
HONORING THE VICTIMS OF THE ATTACK IN SAN BERNARDINO
------------
BY THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA
A PROCLAMATION
President Barack Obama issued a proclamation honoring the victims of the attack in San Bernardino, California
As a mark of respect for the victims of gun violence perpetrated on December 2, 2015, in San Bernardino, California, by the authority vested in me as President of the United States by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, I hereby order that the flag of the United States shall be flown at half-staff at the White House and upon all public buildings and grounds, at all military posts and naval stations, and on all naval vessels of the Federal Government in the District of Columbia and throughout the United States and its Territories and possessions through December 7, 2015. I also direct that the flag shall be flown at half-staff for the same length of time at all United States embassies, legations, consular offices, and other facilities abroad, including all military facilities and naval vessels and stations.
IN WITNESS WHEREOF, I have hereunto set my hand this third day of December, in the year of our Lord two thousand fifteen, and of the Independence of the United States of America the two hundred and fortieth.
BARACK OBAMA
Yet broadcasting anti-police rhetoric is just fine....as cops get murdered because of it.
or whitney houston. dont crack whores rate to you?
[hahhah-no]
BushMasterBoy
12-04-2015, 12:18
I'll let you know how it turns out since I am destined for this list.
I am at the top of this list!
Chickenlooper ordered flags flown at half mast over this event.
Why?
I had heard this morning that Hick ordered all flags at all public places to be at half-mast until Monday in honor of the UCCS PD officer, Swasey. This is the first I've heard of it in honor of CA.
RblDiver
12-04-2015, 13:56
Media circus continues. On today's edition, rummaging around an active crime scene! http://hotair.com/archives/2015/12/04/surreal-media-pushes-into-farooks-apartment-rifles-through-everything-there/
Great Twitter quote towards the bottom, "It's time for a discussion about common sense media regulations. Maybe a watch list? And if you're on it, you lose your First Amdt. rights?"
crashdown
12-04-2015, 14:13
The half staff order is actually an executive order (POTUS). The first sentence reads "As a mark of respect for the victims of gun violence perpetrated on December 2, 2015, in San Bernardino, California, by the authority vested in me as President...." blah blah blah. (through to December 7, 2015)
Had the pipe bombs gone off, would old big ears of mandated that the flags been flown at half mast as a result of pipe violence?
I'm guessing that would have sounded as stupid to him as gun violence sounds to the rest of the world when it was an act of terrorism.
PugnacAutMortem
12-04-2015, 14:27
FBI just declared that this was an act of terrorism. Any bets on the administration disagreeing publicly with that assessment? I'm guessing that there will at least be a reluctance to address it in the future as terrorism.
Aloha_Shooter
12-04-2015, 16:13
Glad I picked up another 1000 rounds of 9mm at the gun show this past weekend. Fsck, I have to turn off the TV ... Farook family attorney is pissing me off.
Not sure I agree with lowering the flag for this on December 7th. I can think of another reason to have the flags at half-mast on that date.
Not sure I agree with lowering the flag for this on December 7th. I can think of another reason to have the flags at half-mast on that date.
So can I but we all know that liberals don't recall history or heroic acts done in the past.
Well, I say if it was an act of terrorism then we should just pass a law that says terrorists can't own guns. Problem solved.
[Sarcasm2]
newracer
12-04-2015, 17:59
Well, I say if it was an act of terrorism then we should just pass a law that says terrorists can't own guns. Problem solved.
[Sarcasm2]
Actually I heard something about making it illegal to purchase a weapon if someone is on the terrorist watch list. I don't think I want that. Some .gov employee puts you on a list without due process and then you can no longer purchase firearms.
72 employees at DHS on terror watch list
Six dozen DHS employees are on the terror watch list, and the TSA has a 95% failure rate. No further comment is needed. The numbers speak for themselves. (And one can only wonder how the announcement of the TSA failure rate may encourage terrorists to up the ante with respect to air travel.)
Read more: http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2015/12/72_employees_at_dhs_on_terror_watch_list.html#ixzz 3tOrFEXhY
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Why are people on the watch list working at DHS?
Actually I heard something about making it illegal to purchase a weapon if someone is on the terrorist watch list. I don't think I want that. Some .gov employee puts you on a list without due process and then you can no longer purchase firearms.
What??? You want due process too? What is up with you people!?!?!?!
[Sarcasm2]
Has anyone wondered why the media isn't posting pictures of the wife?
there has to be some pictures of her to show. They have found several of the husband, but I'm not seeing a lot of her.
https://s1.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/1HVauqRinwMnt_D5RI5TPw--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3NfbGVnbztmaT1maWxsO2g9NTQwO2lsPXBsYW 5lO3B5b2ZmPTA7cT03NTt3PTk2MA--/http://media.zenfs.com/en_us/gma/us.abcnews.gma.com/ht_tashfeen_malik_float_jc_151204_16x9_992.jpg
72 employees at DHS on terror watch list
Why are people on the watch list working at DHS?
For the same reason the Musloid Brotherhood has employees in all three branches of the government and the White House. Obama and ISIS share the same goals.
https://s1.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/1HVauqRinwMnt_D5RI5TPw--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3NfbGVnbztmaT1maWxsO2g9NTQwO2lsPXBsYW 5lO3B5b2ZmPTA7cT03NTt3PTk2MA--/http://media.zenfs.com/en_us/gma/us.abcnews.gma.com/ht_tashfeen_malik_float_jc_151204_16x9_992.jpg
Another shaved goat.
If you want your head to explode, just Google No-Fly List Gun Ban
The sad part is people, including POTUS, can't even keep the different "lists" straight.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_Fly_List
The No Fly List is different from the Terrorist Watch List (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrorist_Screening_Database), a much longer list of people said to be suspected of some involvement with terrorism. The Terrorist Watch List contained around 1,000,000 names by March 2009.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrorist_Screening_Database
sellersm
12-04-2015, 18:25
Don't get me started about the "watch/terror list". Practically everyone I know is on it... Some have been prevented from traveling freely for a long time, for no good reason.
Anyone ever read the theater-of-the-absurd (existential) play called "The Bald Soprano"?
Great-Kazoo
12-04-2015, 18:52
Don't get me started about the "watch/terror list". Practically everyone I know is on it... Some have been prevented from traveling freely for a long time, for no good reason.
Anyone ever read the theater-of-the-absurd (existential) play called "The Bald Soprano"?
Is that like a Shaved Scrotum, Spectacular
https://sp.yimg.com/xj/th?id=OIP.Mada282cd44117b87ad19e6e445388104o1&pid=15.1&P=0&w=300&h=300
sellersm
12-04-2015, 19:01
Is there a faint hint of the Bin Laden family in that pic?
To Great-Kazoo: ummmm, no.
https://s1.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/1HVauqRinwMnt_D5RI5TPw--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3NfbGVnbztmaT1maWxsO2g9NTQwO2lsPXBsYW 5lO3B5b2ZmPTA7cT03NTt3PTk2MA--/http://media.zenfs.com/en_us/gma/us.abcnews.gma.com/ht_tashfeen_malik_float_jc_151204_16x9_992.jpg
http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/12/04/f6c176d7e3a7de0111cdb2d81bdbff77.jpg
It looks much better in this pic:
http://newsfoxes.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/12333930_169889133365475_495646949_o-300x195.jpg
Great-Kazoo
12-04-2015, 20:04
It looks much better in this pic:
http://newsfoxes.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/12333930_169889133365475_495646949_o-300x195.jpg
That a pencil she's drawing Mohammad with in her right hand ?
BPTactical
12-04-2015, 20:12
Think she crapped her pants before or after she got lead poisoning?
Kraven251
12-04-2015, 20:14
I love CNN.
How did people not see the supplies, the 7000 rounds of ammo, or the guns....well none of them take upthat much space you ignorant fucks.
Not to be outdone "Where did they get the gunpowder?" ...try Walmart?
Great-Kazoo
12-04-2015, 20:24
I love CNN.
How did people not see the supplies, the 7000 rounds of ammo, or the guns....well none of them take upthat much space you ignorant fucks.
Not to be outdone "Where did they get the gunpowder?" ...try Walmart?
That's a range trip.
Think she crapped her pants before or after she got lead poisoning?
Yes.
blacklabel
12-04-2015, 20:37
That's a range trip.
What's it like being part of the 1%?
Great-Kazoo
12-04-2015, 20:38
What's it like being part of the 1%?
REAL FUKIN GOOD. NO.......... GREAT. You need to catch up to the rest of weld cty , son.
That's a range trip.
Maybe an indoor range...
Another problem for the gun-control crowd
https://pjmedia.com/trending/2015/12/4/atf-says-weapons-used-in-san-bernardino-shooting-were-illegal-in-california (https://pjmedia.com/trending/2015/12/4/atf-says-weapons-used-in-san-bernardino-shooting-were-illegal-in-california)
The media proudly reports that the firearms were purchased legally. They are trying to create the narrative that the current gun laws allowed this to happen. They want you to know: "Hey, this was all legally done. We need more laws to stop this from happening again."
But not so fast. It may be true that these guns were purchased legally, but they were not used legally and in fact, they were modified in violation of the California firearms laws, says the ATF.
While they were originally sold legally, with magazine locking devices commonly known as bullet buttons, the rifles were subsequently altered in different ways to make them more powerful, according to Meredith Davis, a special agent with the ATF.
The Smith & Wesson rifle was changed in an attempt to enable it fire in fully automatic mode, while the DPMS weapon was modified to use a large-capacity magazine, she said.
Those alterations made the weapons unlawful under California’s ban on assault weapons, which bans guns with magazines that can detach for quick reloading.
The state legally allows the sale and ownership of assault weapons that have fixed magazines.
blacklabel
12-04-2015, 21:31
Ehh, I can see them flipping that and tightening the restrictions on detachable magazines.
hollohas
12-04-2015, 22:07
Doesn't seem like they got many, or any, mag changes in. 60-some rounds fired at the scene, 70-some fired from the SUV was what I heard during the press coference the other day I think. Sounds to me like they emptied both long guns and then some from the handguns.
Lack of training. Probably counting on the hand of allah to guide them.
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OK, my head literally exploded after watching this. I'm barely able to post this due to the brain material all over the monitor.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJGB80cSOGE
Here's the thing. Manufacturers are allowed to build them that way with what's called a bullet button.
That is to say, you take the tip of a button, you press, of a bullet, you press a button, and it turns your semi-automatic legal weapon into an illegal assault weapon, and apparently that's what happened here except it failed when the killers tried to do it.
hollohas
12-04-2015, 22:13
Lack of training. Probably counting on the hand of allah to guide them.
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There is actually some truth to the second part. Some folks I know who've spent time actually fighting these crazies on their turf have told me that's why you see them hip firing their AK's all the time, or firing without aiming in general. They actually believe allah will guide their bullets.
https://s1.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/1HVauqRinwMnt_D5RI5TPw--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3NfbGVnbztmaT1maWxsO2g9NTQwO2lsPXBsYW 5lO3B5b2ZmPTA7cT03NTt3PTk2MA--/http://media.zenfs.com/en_us/gma/us.abcnews.gma.com/ht_tashfeen_malik_float_jc_151204_16x9_992.jpg
She doesn't look like she's in her 20's...
BPTactical
12-04-2015, 22:15
While they were originally sold legally, with magazine locking devices commonly known as bullet buttons, the rifles were subsequently altered in different ways to make them more powerful, according to Meredith Davis, a special agent with the ATF.
Huh? Last I checked a BB just negated "tool less" magazine changes.
The Smith & Wesson rifle was changed in an attempt to enable it fire in fully automatic mode, while the DPMS weapon was modified to use a large-capacity magazine, she said.
Curious what the mods to the S&W were, shoestring? Rubber band? Oh wait, they filed down the firing pin!
Those alterations made the weapons unlawful under California’s ban on assault weapons, which bans guns with magazines that can detach for quick reloading.
The state legally allows the sale and ownership of assault weapons that have fixed magazines.
patently false.
So you think the Alphabet crew has an agenda here or the spokesmonkey is just a twit?
Bottom line, multiple laws that were already on the books were broken and they did absolutely nothing to prevent humans bent on causing harm to others doing so.
Hint: people with ill/criminal/terrorist intent don't observe the law.
Next.......
BPTactical
12-04-2015, 22:17
She doesn't look like she's in her 20's...
Butterface
OK, my head literally exploded after watching this. I'm barely able to post this due to the brain material all over the monitor.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJGB80cSOGE
Well...If that's the case, I'm buying me some bullet-button rifles tonight!
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Aardvark
12-04-2015, 22:31
...no wonder they f..k goats and camels. oof...burka, please!
The rifles used were not "assault rifles". As much as the lefties want them to be, they're not.
OK, my head literally exploded after watching this. I'm barely able to post this due to the brain material all over the monitor.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJGB80cSOGE
He's a talking head, not an expert. He went off prompter and we get to see the resultant stupidity.
Well...If that's the case, I'm buying me some bullet-button rifles tonight!
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Hoooooooly cow. That was like watching two schizophrenics talking to themselves while facing each other.
WillysWagon
12-04-2015, 22:50
Wow, that did hurt to watch.
Would love to see someone correct them and make them look as dumb as they really are !
Here we go again - worried about the anti-musloid backlash instead of the anti-american war taking place.
If there had been appropriate backlash after 9/11, we would not be repeating this conversation now.
http://www.weaselzippers.us/243543-attorney-general-loretta-lynch-vows-to-prosecute-those-who-use-anti-muslim-speech-that-edges-toward-violence/
The day after a horrific shooting spree by a “radicalized” Muslim man and his partner in San Bernardino, California, Attorney General Loretta Lynch pledged to a group of Muslim activists that she would take aggressive action against anyone who used “anti-Muslim rhetoric” that “edges toward violence.”
Speaking to the audience at the Muslim Advocate’s 10th anniversary dinner Thursday, Lynch said her “greatest fear” is the “incredibly disturbing rise of anti-Muslim rhetoric” in America and vowed to prosecute any guilty of what she deemed violence-inspiring speech.
I'll let you know how it turns out since I am destined for this list.
Excellent rant against Loretta from a former congressman:
http://hypeline.org/joe-walsh/
Portsider86
12-04-2015, 22:54
OK, my head literally exploded after watching this. I'm barely able to post this due to the brain material all over the monitor.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJGB80cSOGE
Does anyone know how to get IQ points back?
BPTactical
12-04-2015, 23:00
Does anyone know how to get IQ points back?
62580
Rooskibar03
12-04-2015, 23:01
Does anyone know how to get IQ points back?
Makes me wish I was on Twitter so I could blow this idiot up
BPTactical
12-04-2015, 23:07
Interdasting.
On the 10 o clock news (ch 7) they just stated that the item used to make the one rifle "fully automatic" is easily accessible for $300.00.
I will take "SlideFire" for $10,000 Alex...
Scanker19
12-04-2015, 23:08
OK, my head literally exploded after watching this. I'm barely able to post this due to the brain material all over the monitor.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJGB80cSOGE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DTc--4jz0GQ
Circuits
12-04-2015, 23:21
If there were competency tests for news correspondents, there would probably be no news correspondents.
Portsider86
12-04-2015, 23:38
I wonder what happens if you put one of those bullet buttons on a ghost gun. Also, can one those bullet buttons be adapted to a glock? I'd like a G18.
Interdasting.
On the 10 o clock news (ch 7) they just stated that the item used to make the one rifle "fully automatic" is easily accessible for $300.00.
I will take "SlideFire" for $10,000 Alex...
Unfortunately I see no slidefire there...perhaps one of the funky new trigger systems.
http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w214/wetwrks/39e22f2fe53051f1b5c2f19ce4085d8a.jpg
I see a slick side AR there, two cheap pistol grip bipods they sell at the gun shows, and a cocked 1911 in battery. [facepalm]
At least they dropped the mags.
Portsider86
12-04-2015, 23:53
An "expert" on Foxnews this morning speculated that those holographic scopes cost $600-$1000+ and they are used by HRT & Spec ops. This expert claimed the front grip and the "holographic" scopes are what made these such dangerous killing machines.
Where can I get one of those $600 BSAs?
blacklabel
12-05-2015, 00:22
Does the rifle on the left have a MRO on it?
I believe it is the same scope as on the right, but the back half is blown off. Looks like the handguard took some damage too.
Great-Kazoo
12-05-2015, 01:30
FOR CHRISTMAS SAKE PEOPLE CAN WE MOVE THIS TO THE LEGISLATION FORUMS [panic]
all kidding aside. These fuktards who actually believe banning a cosmetically different gun will STOP SENSELESS KILLINGS live in some sominex dream world. Where the government promises to take care of them.
The government supports assisted suicide THEN HAS THE TESTICLES TO BE OUTRAGED OVER SUICIDES BY GUN. I guess it really isn't the PARTY OF CHOICE IS IT.
At least they aren't being coy about it anymore:
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/05/opinion/end-the-gun-epidemic-in-america.html?_r=0
Great-Kazoo
12-05-2015, 01:59
At least they aren't being coy about it anymore:
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/05/opinion/end-the-gun-epidemic-in-america.html?_r=0
Try reading the comments section. The fuktard (yeah word of the day) liberal mindset. Not leaving out the COMMON SENSE NRA member
REALLY?? BAN THEM, CONFISCATE THEM, BY ANY MEANS NECESSARY. [dig] Keep digging folks. Just keep on digging. While they're busy fawning over what ever some karcrashian is wearing. they will want someone other them self to do the actual dirty work.
blacklabel
12-05-2015, 02:03
They have no idea what "by any means necessary" actually means.
Great-Kazoo
12-05-2015, 02:10
They have no idea what "by any means necessary" actually means.
I suggest they ask wikipedia.
Like to see some SJW come knocking on my door. CANDYGRAM FOR MONGO .
Hell get a bunch of folks to wear 1930's clothing & blackface. Throwing down some Al Jolsen routine . Them shitheads be so APPALLED and.... IN (sniff) TEARS they'd get run over by their own white guilt. Frozen in place like deer in the headlights.
Not discounting there's a good portion who could carry their weight. But that would mean they'd have to use the same tools they demonize so much. OH THE HORROR.
Kraven251
12-05-2015, 06:32
They have no idea what "by any means necessary" actually means.
It means when they show up we go into full chorus line "Frozen" and sing "Let it Go!"
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e135/rfizzle_photo/F59DC80B-8D89-4FB5-B9FB-F5D36D713552_zpsioexxza8.jpg (http://s38.photobucket.com/user/rfizzle_photo/media/F59DC80B-8D89-4FB5-B9FB-F5D36D713552_zpsioexxza8.jpg.html)
crashdown
12-05-2015, 08:33
Don't remember a word about guns after Paris, it was terrorists from the first second.
Obama came forward after Paris attacks started concerned for the people, here he just cared about the guns.
There were a lot of tools used to pull this attack off. It wouldn't have happened without Internet, cell phones, a vehicle, a plane to get his woman, and guns... eliminate any one of those things but the guns from the equation and this would not have happened. The guns could have been replaced with bombs, chemicals, etc.......
Saw this little gem this morning, wow, the media truly is moronic. If you can't report accurately or factually after doing your homework, how can I be expected to believe a single word you say?
http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/12/05/9c19ab36ddf4d41844d36191d6c6b6f4.jpg
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.22 mm= ~.009 inch. Is that legal for hunting terrorists in this state?
They must be the evil multi automatic Flechette rounds.
Saw this little gem this morning, wow, the media truly is moronic. If you can't report accurately or factually after doing your homework, how can I be expected to believe a single word you say?
[snip pic]
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[ROFL3]
That reminds me of someone in my family who keeps asking about my 40MM CCW. Hey, it's not for everyone.
At least they aren't being coy about it anymore:
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/05/opinion/end-the-gun-epidemic-in-america.html?_r=0
Between this and the New Yorker cover (I won't post it but you can find if you haven't seen it) I think the Left is transitioning from trying to maintain the perception of a war against inanimate objects (guns) to admitting it is a war against people. People they hate more than known and stated enemies with whom they will ally for their common goal; attacking Conservatives.
In this moment the Left becomes the very tyranny mentioned by our Founders.
I won't forget this piece or the New Yorker cover. I think it speaks volumes of our intellectual and moral superiors who live in the big cities. We've always had our differences but I think the chasm is now too wide to mend.
[ROFL3]
That reminds me of someone in my family who keeps asking about my 40MM CCW. Hey, it's not for everyone.
HEY LADIES I GOT A 40MM IN MY PANTS
Wait no I'm Asian, I can't say that. :(
Camperdavid
12-05-2015, 14:03
If there was ever an example of doublespeak, it it the government after this tragedy. They want the public to believe that the best way we can be protected from terrorism is to surrender our arms. How can any government protect us from anything, by limiting our rights and freedoms? If they protect us from tyranny the same way they have protected us from terrorism, we are doomed. I'm not willing to surrender anything. This was my line in the sand. Im not willing to participate in any buy back scheme, disarmament agreement, or surrender. Even at the cost of not being as safe as Chicago.
From My Cold Dead Hands!
HoneyBadger
12-05-2015, 14:42
Between this and the New Yorker cover (I won't post it but you can find if you haven't seen it) I think the Left is transitioning from trying to maintain the perception of a war against inanimate objects (guns) to admitting it is a war against people. People they hate more than known and stated enemies with whom they will ally for their common goal; attacking Conservatives.
In this moment the Left becomes the very tyranny mentioned by our Founders.
I won't forget this piece or the New Yorker cover. I think it speaks volumes of our intellectual and moral superiors who live in the big cities. We've always had our differences but I think the chasm is now too wide to mend.
That's great news for us. It will make it easy for the rest of the country to see them for what they really are and will give everyone who doesn't want to be involved a real reason to be.
http://scontent.fsnc1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xap1/v/t1.0-9/12348044_1692286897651537_8129194364734212165_n.jp g?oh=a0abccd1bdcd36b0218f4bcccfb0349f&oe=56DEFFA4
If there was ever an example of doublespeak, it it the government after this tragedy. They want the public to believe that the best way we can be protected from terrorism is to surrender our arms. How can any government protect us from anything, by limiting our rights and freedoms? If they protect us from tyranny the same way they have protected us from terrorism, we are doomed. I'm not willing to surrender anything. This was my line in the sand. Im not willing to participate in any buy back scheme, disarmament agreement, or surrender. Even at the cost of not being as safe as Chicago.
From My Cold Dead Hands!
Well, these are the same people that told us debt was wealth.
That's great news for us. It will make it easy for the rest of the country to see them for what they really are and will give everyone who doesn't want to be involved a real reason to be.
I can't help but see it this way. It's so inflammatory and offensive. In no way are they welcoming a conversation. This is a demand and it they want it exercised against their political opposition. The only thing lacking is "or else."
It seems to me that the unofficial poll taken by the NICS background checks on Black Friday would be sufficient to show the response of many Americans to the the progressive call for "sensible gun control."
Do these same progressive pols who demonize police departments around the nation then expect that those police officers will be willing to go and take guns from free citizens?
Delusional.
HoneyBadger
12-05-2015, 15:35
I can't help but see it this way. It's so inflammatory and offensive. In no way are they welcoming a conversation. This is a demand and it they want it exercised against their political opposition. The only thing lacking is "or else."
It seems to me that the unofficial poll taken by the NICS background checks on Black Friday would be sufficient to show the response of many Americans to the the progressive call for "sensible gun control."
Do these same progressive pols who demonize police departments around the nation then expect that those police officers will be willing to go and take guns from free citizens?
Delusional.
After the last few days on facebook and other social media, I'm convinced that we are actually winning the battle on all fronts here. I've never seen so much pro-gun support in all my life. There has never been a time in US history when a larger percent of the population owned guns. I have several liberal "friends" from high school or college who have recently bought their first gun and have legitimately switched sides on the whole issue. I hate the reason it has come to light, but I'm more optimistic than I've ever been about the future of this country in terms of Liberty with firearms.
HoneyBadger
12-05-2015, 17:02
40mm is... 1 1/2 inches.
In the spirit of the millennial, I won't crack a joke. Instead, I'll offer to host a charity shoot to get a member transplant. But, after talking about it, it'll prove too much effort for my motivation level, and I'll give up without notice, recluding to a recliner to play some video games and smoke amendment 64 or whatever it is millennials do.
But it's the thought that counts.
#LittleAsianMembersMatter
BPTactical
12-05-2015, 17:35
Ti Ne Wang?
speedysst
12-05-2015, 19:03
Just in case you thought the rhetoric only applied to the 2nd Amendment: http://www.dailywire.com/news/1593/loretta-lynch-vows-prosecute-those-who-use-anti-james-barrett
BushMasterBoy
12-05-2015, 19:16
On Sunday, December 6th at 8:00PM EST, President Obama will address the nation from the Oval Office about the steps our government is taking to fulfill his highest priority: keeping the American people safe from his administration.
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kidicarus13
12-05-2015, 19:34
On Sunday, December 6th at 8:00PM EST, President Obama will address the nation from the Oval Office about the steps our government is taking to fulfill his highest priority: keeping the American people safe from his administration.
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Who's the fool in the pic?
jhood001
12-05-2015, 19:46
Just in case you thought the rhetoric only applied to the 2nd Amendment: http://www.dailywire.com/news/1593/loretta-lynch-vows-prosecute-those-who-use-anti-james-barrett
I am patiently waiting for the moment when this:
Speaking to the audience at the Muslim Advocates (https://www.muslimadvocates.org/)' 10th anniversary dinner Thursday, Lynch said her "greatest fear" is the "incredibly disturbing rise of anti-Muslim rhetoric" in America and vowed to prosecute any guilty of what she deemed violence-inspiring speech. "The fear that you have just mentioned is in fact my greatest fear as a prosecutor, as someone who is sworn to the protection of all of the American people, which is that the rhetoric will be accompanied by acts of violence," she said.
"Now obviously this is a country that is based on free speech, but when it edges towards violence, when we see the potential for someone lifting that mantle of anti-Muslim rhetoric—or, as we saw after 9/11, violence directed at individuals who may not even be Muslims but perceived to be Muslims, and they will suffer just as much—when we see that we will take action," said Lynch.
Is applied to recent tirades against our law enforcement officers.
So now the attorney general, the highest law enforcement official in this country, has declared that the Muslim religion will be the one religion in America that the federal government will protect even against disparaging speech. Isn't there something in the constitution that says the government will not elevate one religion over any other? I used to think that when BO went around the world telling everyone Americans are bad people and apologizing, he was talking about our history of slavery and us imposing Christian values on the rest of the world. I now realize he's was just pissed off that Christians created this country and like every other misguided Muslim wants all of Christianity to come to a untimely end. It wasn't too long ago that the Obama administration was somewhat hiding the fact that they are pro Muslim, I guess not so much anymore.
hollohas
12-05-2015, 21:14
Good read.
http://bearingarms.com/game-fire-ice/
Only a partial quote below...
...We, the People, are the militia, an obvious fact also codified in federal law.
We, the citizenry, are to be armed with weapons of contemporary military utility against both common savages, and those who imagine themselves fit to rule over men instead of serving them.
Perhaps Founding Father Tench Coxe explained it best in 1799 in the Philadelphia Aurora as tensions arose between Federalists and Republicans:
"Do you wish to preserve your rights? Arm yourselves. Do you desire to secure your dwellings? Arm yourselves. Do you wish your wives and daughters protected? Arm yourselves. Do you wish to be defended against assassins or the Bully Rocks of faction? Arm yourselves. Do you desire to assemble in security to consult for your own good or the good of your country? Arm yourselves. To arms, to arms, and you may then sit down contented, each man under his own vine and his own fig-tree and have no one to make him afraid….If you are desirous to counteract a design pregnant with misery and ruin, then arm yourselves; for in a firm, imposing and dignified attitude, will consist your own security and that of your families. To arms, then to arms."
The increasing small and desperate progressive faction within the Democrat Party feels their chance to “make the world a better place” is slipping away, as they’ve lost a thousand elected seats nationwide, and stand to lose many more in 2016. They are manufacturing the fiction of a “gun violence epidemic” as their last,, best chance of establishing themselves as rulers, even as violence committed with firearms continues to plummet.
Let me take this opportunity to calmly and rationally offer my rebuttal to the editorial board of the New York Times.
I will not give up my guns. You will have to try to take them.
One of us will die....
BPTactical
12-05-2015, 21:21
Good read.
http://bearingarms.com/game-fire-ice/
Only a partial quote below...
Powerful
blacklabel
12-05-2015, 21:41
Good read.
http://bearingarms.com/game-fire-ice/
Only a partial quote below...
That's a hell of a read. Thanks for sharing.
mtnrider
12-05-2015, 22:12
The libtards seem to be doubling down this time around. Will be interesting to see where this goes. They are definitely going for the end zone on this try.
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Oh look! A poll!
http://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/polls/2015/dec/*would-you-favor-renewal-federal-assault-weapons-ba/
I broke it apart with a * so it doesn't link back to here.
wctriumph
12-06-2015, 00:10
I voted. Guns are a clear winner.
Great-Kazoo
12-06-2015, 00:38
Oh look! A poll!
http://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/polls/2015/dec/*would-you-favor-renewal-federal-assault-weapons-ba/
I broke it apart with a * so it doesn't link back to here.
sandievagina ??
Aloha_Shooter
12-06-2015, 00:51
7845 against renewing the ban, 1828 for. Fsck the liberal "news" writers ....
Just in case you thought the rhetoric only applied to the 2nd Amendment: http://www.dailywire.com/news/1593/loretta-lynch-vows-prosecute-those-who-use-anti-james-barrett
But of course she doesn't give a damn about the rhetoric used by the left towards conservatives and gun owners... Never had I seen such seething anger, hatred and vitriol.
So now the attorney general, the highest law enforcement official in this country, has declared that the Muslim religion will be the one religion in America that the federal government will protect even against disparaging speech. Isn't there something in the constitution that says the government will not elevate one religion over any other? I used to think that when BO went around the world telling everyone Americans are bad people and apologizing, he was talking about our history of slavery and us imposing Christian values on the rest of the world. I now realize he's was just pissed off that Christians created this country and like every other misguided Muslim wants all of Christianity to come to a untimely end. It wasn't too long ago that the Obama administration was somewhat hiding the fact that they are pro Muslim, I guess not so much anymore.
Yep! And people keep saying Obama isn't a Muslim. If that is true, then he sure has a strange love affair with the cult of Mohammed.
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n8tive97
12-06-2015, 08:50
I simply don't understand why that's the liberal M.O. Take feminism for example, by all accounts a major liberal ideal. Islam is completely against everything feminists have fought for. Why in the world do they pander to them?
Or equal rights for gays??? Liberals think everyone should bake gay wedding cakes, meanwhile ISIS is throwing them off buildings.
Liberalism is a mental illness....
http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/12/06/fec56b3e7b6d76840630ee67a866ae05.jpg
Crap.
Sent from my ultra conservative tracking device!
Those opposing a AWB have clearly won that poll. Time for the media to take it down and make the results disappear.
[snip]
Yep! And people keep saying Obama isn't a Muslim. If that is true, then he sure has a strange love affair with the cult of Mohammed.
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Guys, seriously now, Obama is a not a Muslim!!!
He only makes decisions and takes actions that benefit Islamists to the detriment of every other religion and secular governments.
The moral and intellectual superiors in New York are now blaming the victims...
Stasi: San Bernardino killers were radical, ISIS-loving monsters — but one of their victims was just as bigoted
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/san-bernardino-bloodbath-born-bigots-article-1.2456491
(Yes, her last name is Stasi. Yes, it is appropriate.)
They were two hate-filled, bigoted municipal employees interacting in one department. Now 13 innocent people are dead in unspeakable carnage.
One man spent his free time writing frightening, NRA-loving, hate-filled screeds on Facebook about the other’s religion.
[snip]
The other man, the victim, Nicholas Thalasinos, was a radical Born Again Christian/Messianic Jew, who also connected with his future wife online and had traveled across the country to meet her.
[snip]
Thalasinos was an anti-government, anti-Islam, pro-NRA, rabidly anti-Planned Parenthood kinda guy, who posted that it would be “Freaking Awesome” if hateful Ann Coulter was named head of Homeland Security. He asked, “IS 1. EVERY POLITICIAN IS BOUGHT AND PAID FOR? 2. EVERY POLITICIAN IS A MORON? 3. EVERY POLITICIAN IS RACIST AGAINST JEWS?” He also posted screeds like, “You can stick your Muslim Million Man march up your asses,” and how “Hashem” should blow up Iran.
[snip]
We have freedom of speech but even so, a city worker should refrain from such public bigotry. Municipal workers have been fired for spewing and posting racial and sexual slurs.
[snip]
Like I said, it's not just a war on guns, it's a war on people. The Christian Jew victim is just as bad as the murderer because his political opinions weren't aligned with Liberalism.
It is nice to see the masks are finally coming off liberals.
Still waiting for the mask to come off Islam. However, many more innocents will die before that happens.
sellersm
12-06-2015, 13:30
James Wesley Rawles' open letter to the NYT:
http://survivalblog.com/fighting-words-an-open-letter-to-publisher-arthur-sulzberger-jr/
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HoneyBadger
12-06-2015, 14:23
Big surprise here: Shooter describes himself as "Very Liberal" in online dating profile.
http://www.thefederalistpapers.org/us/san-bernardino-attacker-identifies-himself-as-very-liberal-in-online-dating-profile
blacklabel
12-06-2015, 15:10
He also described himself as a good muslim.
Great-Kazoo
12-06-2015, 15:13
He also described himself as a good muslim.
He was Good and now DEAD . Look at the repercussions these goat fucking True Believers have wrought.
The mistake you make it believing that liberals actually care about gays, women, minorities, etc. etc.
They are all a means to and end, including muslims. When you get right down to it, they couldn't give a rats ass if the individual lived or died, had any "rights" or was "oppressed". The liberal mentality is about ME ME ME ME ME ME ME. And if they can use other people as a weapon to promote their personal agenda or attack any of their own perceived "enemy" then they'll board that train. But they'll get off it without remorse when it's inconvenient.
Don't be looking for liberals to protest an Islamic declaration to kill gays. They don't care, they'll slide that dog turd under the rug with the side of their shoe and move on.
That is probably the best description of liberalism I've ever read! May I borrow this?
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No good Muslim would ever consider himself to be "very liberal."
HoneyBadger
12-06-2015, 17:50
No good Muslim would ever consider himself to be "very liberal."
This was confusing to me as well. Maybe "A good muslim" by Western standards, but "very liberal" by sharia law standards?
So all those jokes about banning knives..... yeahh... http://countercurrentnews.com/2014/11/british-police-calling-for-knife-ban/#
"A call from the British Medical Journal was published several years ago, arguing that “many assaults are committed impulsively, prompted by alcohol and drugs, and a kitchen knife often makes an all too available weapon,” according to the BBC.
Researchers “consulted 10 top chefs from around the UK, and found such knives have little practical value in the kitchen. None of the chefs felt such knives were essential, since the point of a short blade was just as useful when a sharp end was needed.”"
our knives are too large and dangeruous"
SuperiorDG
12-06-2015, 19:20
So all those jokes about banning knives..... yeahh... http://countercurrentnews.com/2014/11/british-police-calling-for-knife-ban/#
"A call from the British Medical Journal was published several years ago, arguing that “many assaults are committed impulsively, prompted by alcohol and drugs, and a kitchen knife often makes an all too available weapon,” according to the BBC.
Researchers “consulted 10 top chefs from around the UK, and found such knives have little practical value in the kitchen. None of the chefs felt such knives were essential, since the point of a short blade was just as useful when a sharp end was needed.”"
our knives are too large and dangeruous"
Thus the invention of the butter knife.
Radical Muslim = Devout Muslim
Radical Islam = Devout Islam
They are performing exactly as their religion requires. That is why there is so little condemnation and so much praise from the rest of their ideologic community.
An Ideology can only be defeated through extermination. That's right Loretta, EXTERMINATION!
So all those jokes about banning knives..... yeahh... http://countercurrentnews.com/2014/11/british-police-calling-for-knife-ban/#
"A call from the British Medical Journal was published several years ago, arguing that “many assaults are committed impulsively, prompted by alcohol and drugs, and a kitchen knife often makes an all too available weapon,” according to the BBC.
Researchers “consulted 10 top chefs from around the UK, and found such knives have little practical value in the kitchen. None of the chefs felt such knives were essential, since the point of a short blade was just as useful when a sharp end was needed.”"
our knives are too large and dangeruous"
Old news.
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a144/AKS-74/knife_surrender_bin_london_united_kingdom_10-16-2006.jpg
Then what, pointed sticks, these people are f'ing idiots.
Fruit. How to defend yourself from fruit.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=piWCBOsJr-w
BPTactical
12-06-2015, 20:32
Fruit. How to defend yourself from fruit.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=piWCBOsJr-w
LOL
Old news.
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a144/AKS-74/knife_surrender_bin_london_united_kingdom_10-16-2006.jpg
I was under the impression that this was a newest push against knives after the subway stabbings and against kitchen knives. (Vs before those bins and such were for other types of knives or whatever.) Years ago I believe they even wanted to ban the huge gobstopper candies because they were good bludgeon in a sock.
I was under the impression that this was a newest push against knives after the subway stabbings and against kitchen knives. (Vs before those bins and such were for other types of knives or whatever.) Years ago I believe they even wanted to ban the huge gobstopper candies because they were good bludgeon in a sock.
I was looking at one of these last month and trying to figure out if a magnet on a string might be fun.... then I decided I didn't want to get arrested in London. :)
I'll just leave this here for all to refer to anyone that wants to do away with the 2nd.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bnoFKskvSq4
I'll just leave this here for all to refer to anyone that wants to do aways with the 2nd.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bnoFKskvSq4
I LOLed.
Circuits
12-07-2015, 02:27
Unfortunately, the left seems (naively), to be up for it.
Should we ask them to dance?
DireWolf
12-07-2015, 14:06
Live press conference on this now, FBI speaking.....
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Whoa, instead of components for 12 pipe bombs, there were actually components for 19! Total game changer! Not...cool news conference Bros.
Rifles were purchased circa 2011/12 by someone else. Looks like they are implying a strawman purchase as they said Farook gave money to friend to make the purchase. Doesn't make much sense to me.
Finally, said both parties had participated in target practice as recent as the same week of the shooting.
Yep, everyone who ever pooh-poohed leaning Spanish in high school (we had a thread about that once) would be quick to find someone who did to replenish their weapon supply.
Great-Kazoo
12-07-2015, 16:45
Yep, everyone who ever pooh-poohed leaning Spanish in high school (we had a thread about that once) would be quick to find someone who did to replenish their weapon supply.
¿Cuánto si compramos las revistas, rifle y munición
¿Cuánto si compramos las revistas, rifle y munición
So do you want red or green chile with that?
So do you want red or green chile with that?
Si!
Si!
Ah, "Christmas" they call that is some locales.
BPTactical
12-07-2015, 18:17
So do you want red or green chile with that?
Silly, he asked if you want that supersized!
Silly, he asked if you want that supersized!
And I thought, in GK standard mode, he was looking for some type of combo deal. [Coffee]
Not sure if this was posted earlier in the thread, but it I think we could hear it again. SB survivor on being armed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oqUOgkwnQ1w
What? Someone who was nearly gunned down would have felt safer if he was armed? The hell you say.
What? Someone who was nearly gunned down would have felt safer if he was armed? The hell you say.
Couldn't they just pee their pants. Geeeeezz...who wants a gun anyway.
I thought pissing your pants was just to stop rape.
Oh, then what did crazy uncle joe say about stopping bullets?
What? Someone who was nearly gunned down would have felt safer if he was armed? The hell you say.
I know you're purposely being somewhat facetious so here's a prime supporting example for reference, Neville from Columbine.
http://www.westernjournalism.com/columbine-survivor-turned-lawmaker-pushes-teachers-guns-schools/
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/02/20/columbine-survivor-pens-bold-open-letter-to-obama-rejecting-gun-control-whose-side-are-you-on/
RblDiver
12-08-2015, 00:56
I thought pissing your pants was just to stop rape.
I think it's supposed to be an all-purpose tactic. "Getting raped? Pee your pants. Getting shot at? Pee your pants. Being told you're smelly and need to take a bath? Pee your pants."
I think it's supposed to be an all-purpose tactic. "Getting raped? Pee your pants. Getting shot at? Pee your pants. Being told you're smelly and need to take a bath? Pee your pants."
Now you've hurt my feels you micro-aggressor!
:)[Flower]
StagLefty
12-08-2015, 08:39
I think it's supposed to be an all-purpose tactic. "Getting raped? Pee your pants. Getting shot at? Pee your pants. Being told you're smelly and need to take a bath? Pee your pants."
It won't count without a whstle !!
I think it's supposed to be an all-purpose tactic. "Getting raped? Pee your pants. Getting shot at? Pee your pants. Being told you're smelly and need to take a bath? Pee your pants."
Thanks! I was wondering what I should do in a gun free zone.
Great-Kazoo
12-08-2015, 09:03
Thanks! I was wondering what I should do in a gun free zone.
Grab as many of the free ones and run.
Unfortunately, the left seems (naively), to be up for it.
Should we ask them to dance?
The problem with asking them to dance is that they think someone else will accept the invitation for them.
The left are notorious cowards, that is why they advocate for and rely so heavily on government.
Bailey Guns
12-08-2015, 20:01
From listening to a lot of media reports lately I'm cautiously optimistic the left has overplayed the gun control idea.
Global warming became climate change.
Gun control is now gun safety.
Who could possibly be against gun safety? [beatdeadhorse]
Might be petty but...damn, both of those Muslim killers were ugly. That was a fat unattractive cow of a woman. Love those eyebrows...a face only Allah could love.
At least 10-15 years too old for Allah to love.
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hollohas
12-08-2015, 21:25
Global warming became climate change.
Gun control is now gun safety.
Who could possibly be against gun safety? [beatdeadhorse]
You caught that too, huh? Hillary, BO and other dems started using the phrase all within a day of each other. It's like the dems have daily conference to all get on the same page regarding which particular words they use to push their BS.
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From listening to a lot of media reports lately I'm cautiously optimistic the left has overplayed the gun control idea.
Since 1994? Let's hope it bites them in the ass.
A.J. is still a farking moron.
Whoever posted the AIMSurplus lower links earlier (too lazy to go back pages) THANK YOU. Checked my invoice and $35.50 each. Holy $hit. Wish I ordered like 50, didn't know they apparently applied some kind of volume prices.
ETA: They are out of stock now, btw.
Just got my shipping notice from AIM for my lowers and .300 BLK rifle to Ark. It originally said a limit of 3 on the lowers, but it let you buy more than that. Wife figured things out when some ammo I ordered from Natchez showed up today and she saw the ORM-D sticker.
kidicarus13
05-26-2017, 04:04
I found this interesting...
"Police scouring the SUV found a black backpack with 14 rifle and pistol magazines, a military-style ammunition container with 870 rifle cartridges that were loaded into 10-round clips..."
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/05/26/san-bernardino-terror-attack-terrorists-were-shot-up-to-27-times-during-gun-battle-with-police.html
Holy hell. The media got the mag/clip thing right?
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