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Bailey Guns
07-22-2016, 06:42
I have to say, Trump's speech was pretty impressive in my opinion. There was a minor amount of pandering to special interest groups...though he did leave out Eskimos. But overall I thought it was pretty good. And he was BRUTAL on Hillary and Obama. And I hope he sticks with it. I want him to hammer that lying bitch into the ground on every issue he can.
I will say I feel better about voting for him after listening to what he said last night.
StagLefty
07-22-2016, 07:17
I thougt he finally came across as a serious viable candidate but the speech could have been shorter. [Coffee]
hurley842002
07-22-2016, 10:16
I have to say, Trump's speech was pretty impressive in my opinion. There was a minor amount of pandering to special interest groups...though he did leave out Eskimos. But overall I thought it was pretty good. And he was BRUTAL on Hillary and Obama. And I hope he sticks with it. I want him to hammer that lying bitch into the ground on every issue he can.
I will say I feel better about voting for him after listening to what he said last night.
I listened to his speech, and I agree.
wctriumph
07-22-2016, 16:44
I fell asleep, maybe half way through, woke up to some talking head doing an analysis of the speech so I went to bed.
Now the real fun begins. Hillbilly is a asshole of the highest order and I hope Trump pounds her at every chance.
HoneyBadger
07-23-2016, 21:08
I hope Trump pounds her at every chance.
Like... not literally, right? Right???
GilpinGuy
07-24-2016, 03:21
Like... not literally, right? Right???
He's got a hot ass wife. No way he's gonna shtoink a bull dyke.
Aloha_Shooter
07-24-2016, 12:12
I have to say, Trump's speech was pretty impressive in my opinion. There was a minor amount of pandering to special interest groups...though he did leave out Eskimos. But overall I thought it was pretty good. And he was BRUTAL on Hillary and Obama. And I hope he sticks with it. I want him to hammer that lying bitch into the ground on every issue he can.
I will say I feel better about voting for him after listening to what he said last night.
The surest sign of how good his speech was is just how apoplectic the mainstream media was the next day. They were unglued in the way they tried to attack his speech.
Great-Kazoo
07-24-2016, 18:49
The surest sign of how good his speech was is just how apoplectic the mainstream media was the next day. They were unglued in the way they tried to attack his speech.
Lets hope he hammers clinton the day browns mother is speaking.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hhKScl5bp7s
DavieD55
08-16-2016, 19:46
Meanwhile, in Belgrade.[Coffee]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UtRITBZCA5w&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Meanwhile, in Belgrade.[Coffee]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UtRITBZCA5w&feature=youtube_gdata_player
The man talks sense!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s8AKmX6QtuA
...
It is time for rule by the people, not rule by special interests.
Every insider, getting rich off of our broken system, is throwing money at Hillary Clinton. The hedge fund managers, the Wall Street investors, the professional political class.
It’s the powerful protecting the powerful.
Insiders fighting for insiders.
I am fighting for you.
trump I'm with you
When we talk about the insider, who are we talking about? It’s the comfortable politicians looking out for their own interests. It’s the lobbyists who know how to insert that perfect loophole into every bill. It’s the financial industry that knows how to regulate their competition out of existence. The insiders also include the media executives, anchors and journalists in Washington, Los Angeles, and New York City, who are part of the same failed status quo and want nothing to change.
Every day you pick up a newspaper, or turn on the nightly news, and you hear about some self-interest banker or some discredited Washington insider says they oppose our campaign. Or some encrusted old politician says they oppose our campaign. Or some big time lobbyist says they oppose our campaign.
I wear their opposition as a badge of honor. Because it means I am fighting for REAL change, not just partisan change. I am fighting – all of us across the country are fighting – for peaceful regime change in our own country. The media-donor-political complex that’s bled this country dry has to be replaced with a new government of, by and for the people.
The leadership class in Washington D.C., of which Hillary Clinton has been a member for thirty years, has abandoned the people of this country.
I am going to give the people their voice back.
Think about it. The people opposing our campaign are the same people who have left our border open and let innocent people suffer as a result.
The people opposing our campaign are the same people who have led us into one disastrous foreign war after another.
The people opposing our campaign are the same people who lied to us about one trade deal after another.
Aren’t you tired of a system that gets rich at your expense?
Aren’t you tired of big media, big businesses, and big donors rigging the system to keep your voice from being heard?
Are you ready for change?
Are you ready for leadership that puts you, the American people, first? That puts your country first? That puts your family first?
Let’s talk about what this means for the inner cities of America. It’s time to break through the television noise, the entrenched interests. I understand that a lot of powerful people in our political system – a lot of people who’ve created our problems – will lose a lot of their contracts, and their special gigs, if African-American voters, and all minority voters, support my campaign.
It’s time to stop making the special interests rich. It’s time to make the American people rich.
I am going to Make America Wealthy Again.
The Democratic Party has run nearly every inner city in this country for 50 years, and run them into financial ruin.
They’ve ruined the schools.
They’ve driven out the jobs.
They’ve tolerated a level of crime no American should consider acceptable.
Violent crime has risen 17% in America’s 50 largest cities last year. Killings of police officers this year is up nearly 50 percent. Homicides are up more than 60% in Baltimore. They are up more than 50% in Washington, D.C.
This is the future offered by Hillary Clinton. More poverty, more crime, and more of the same. The future she offers is the most pessimistic thing I can possibly imagine.
It is time for a different future.
...
https://theconservativetreehouse.files.wordpress.com/2016/06/fireworks-3.jpg?w=640&h=280
https://theconservativetreehouse.files.wordpress.com/2016/04/trump-melania-and-donald.jpg?w=640&h=335
Looking at recent polling, with Trump down in almost every one, I hope he can make a comeback. The news about the GOP in Congress wanting to go after Hillary with perjury is just a pipedream, the DOJ already proved they are in the dems pocket with the BS the FBI pulled. Comey even went on the record with all of the things she did wrong, and still refused to refer charges. It's all rigged, and I sure hope Trump can overcome that and still pull a win. Like Ross Kaminsky said this morning on 630KHOW, we'll see how things swing after the first debate, that should be where Trump proves he can sink or swim, and I pray he hammers Hillary with no mercy.
Looking at recent polling, with Trump down in almost every one, I hope he can make a comeback. The news about the GOP in Congress wanting to go after Hillary with perjury is just a pipedream, the DOJ already proved they are in the dems pocket with the BS the FBI pulled. Comey even went on the record with all of the things she did wrong, and still refused to refer charges. It's all rigged, and I sure hope Trump can overcome that and still pull a win. Like Ross Kaminsky said this morning on 630KHOW, we'll see how things swing after the first debate, that should be where Trump proves he can sink or swim, and I pray he hammers Hillary with no mercy.
[LOL]
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2016/08/15/transparently-predictable-politicalmedia-tripwires-for-august-and-september-16/
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2016/08/04/clinton-media-polling-cnn-now-shes-so-far-ahead-theres-no-need-for-an-election/
Polls mean nothing.
Trump consistently gets over 10,000 people showing up to his rallies.
Hillary is lucky to get 500 at hers.
There's your poll.
Landslide win if he survives.
hollohas
08-17-2016, 15:07
Landslide win if he survives.
That's a bold prediction especially considering the rampant media bias, downright illegal DNC election BS and Rino's lining up against him.
Let's hope you're right.
Great-Kazoo
08-17-2016, 17:00
Looking at recent polling, with Trump down in almost every one Is rigged towards hillary. There is no media out there that wants to see someone who can be paid off, or tell them to fuck off, in power.
I hope he can make a comeback. The news about the GOP in Congress wanting to go after Hillary with perjury is just a pipedream, the DOJ already proved they are in the dems pocket with the BS the FBI pulled. Comey even went on the record with all of the things she did wrong, and still refused to refer charges. Because BEYOND A REASONABLE DOUBT would be hard to prove. Not to mention 50% of the jury pool would be HRC favorable
It's all rigged, and I sure hope Trump can overcome that and still pull a win. Like Ross Kaminsky said this morning on 630KHOW, we'll see how things swing after the first debate, that should be where Trump proves he can sink or swim, and I pray he hammers Hillary with no mercy.
He is either going to go for it, OR say 1/2 way through the debate. You know what, she's right. She is more qualified that i am to be president. At which time 1/4 the country will be inserting mags and releasing charging handles. Hypothetically of course. The rest of us will be making room on the 1800 ac ranch i'd like to buy.
[LOL]
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2016/08/15/transparently-predictable-politicalmedia-tripwires-for-august-and-september-16/
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2016/08/04/clinton-media-polling-cnn-now-shes-so-far-ahead-theres-no-need-for-an-election/
Polls mean nothing.
Trump consistently gets over 10,000 people showing up to his rallies.
Hillary is lucky to get 500 at hers.
There's your poll.
Landslide win if he survives.
I agree, polls mean jack. I'm still holding hope that the people jaded by Hillary and the DNC's dirty tricks won't become wimps and go "well, Hillary is better than Trump, even though I really wanted to feel the Bern."
He is either going to go for it, OR say 1/2 way through the debate. You know what, she's right. She is more qualified that i am to be president. At which time 1/4 the country will be inserting mags and releasing charging handles. Hypothetically of course. The rest of us will be making room on the 1800 ac ranch i'd like to buy.
I doubt his ego would let him do that.
Zundfolge
08-18-2016, 09:29
Polls mean nothing.
At this point elections probably mean nothing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_l7EDMYLlM
The polls are rigged to hide the rigging of the election itself.
Great-Kazoo
08-18-2016, 12:15
I doubt his ego would let him do that.
This election isn't about ego. IMO it's about one of the greatest con jobs ever committed. From the DNC's Hillary vote rigging, to Trump (former major HRC donor) winning the majority of R votes. Clobbering 15 - 16? other candidates, it's going to be an interesting debate.
This election isn't about ego. IMO it's about one of the greatest con jobs ever committed. From the DNC's Hillary vote rigging, to Trump (former major HRC donor) winning the majority of R votes. Clobbering 15 - 16? other candidates, it's going to be an interesting debate.
I'm sure you heard the montage Michael Brown on KHOW did about Trump saying a bunch of pro-Dem stuff... I'm still surprised he's the nominee. It will be an interesting debate, indeed.
http://a.disquscdn.com/uploads/mediaembed/images/4117/3351/original.jpg
Ugh
I know. People are imposing all their hopes for liberty on Trump and making Trump out to be the next coming of George Washington or Thomas Jefferson. I LOL at these people.
Trump represents an opportunity for something different and he is certainly a better choice than Hillary even if Trump isn't that much different. We don't know much about him except to say that the (D) and the GOPe hate him, well it looks like they hate him anyway.
A Trump presidency might slow the totalitarian ship down and provide another opportunity in 2020 or 2024 to start turning away from totalitarianism.
We all know that a Hillary presidency will increase the speed of our decent into totalitarianism, if she wins you can write off the entire constitution and bill of rights, may not happen instantly but 8 years from now we'll see that the changes are even more profound than the changes from 2008-2016.
I know. People are imposing all their hopes for liberty on Trump and making Trump out to be the next coming of George Washington or Thomas Jefferson. I LOL at these people.
Trump represents an opportunity for something different and he is certainly a better choice than Hillary even if Trump isn't that much different. We don't know much about him except to say that the (D) and the GOPe hate him, well it looks like they hate him anyway.
A Trump presidency might slow the totalitarian ship down and provide another opportunity in 2020 or 2024 to start turning away from totalitarianism.
We all know that a Hillary presidency will increase the speed of our decent into totalitarianism, if she wins you can write off the entire constitution and bill of rights, may not happen instantly but 8 years from now we'll see that the changes are even more profound than the changes from 2008-2016.
Can't disagree with you at all on that. Trump is an Authoritarian, for sure. I'll vote for him, and I recognize that with the way the GOP has been for the last 8 years (dare I say 20?), we will never get a perfect candidate. Make due with what we've got, and hope Trump uses his knowledge of business to try to help with our economic issues. When people say he's a terrible businessman, I can't help but laugh. He is an excellent businessman, and has actually done quite a bit for NYC. Those who think that a few filings of bankruptcy are indicative of a bad businessman (or an idiot), know very little about running large companies, and I don't have to time, nor the crayons to explain it. For the sake of our Constitutional rights, I'm voting Trump.
GilpinGuy
08-23-2016, 00:04
Abe Lincoln and Thomas Jefferson declared bankruptcy as well, whatever that means.
Maybe he'll have the country file bankruptcy and we won't be in debt to China anymore.
The bankruptcy BS is just playing on the economic ignorance of the general public.
The US debt is incorrectly portrayed by the lying media.
The U.S. debt (https://www.thebalance.com/the-u-s-debt-and-how-it-got-so-big-3305778) is more than $19 trillion. Most headlines focus on how much the U.S. owes China (https://www.thebalance.com/u-s-debt-to-china-how-much-does-it-own-3306355), which is one of the largest foreign owners. Fewer people know that the Social Security Trust Fund (https://www.thebalance.com/social-security-trust-fund-history-solvency-how-to-fix-it-3305890), aka your retirement money (https://www.thebalance.com/retirement-crisis-stats-causes-effect-3306215), owns most of the national debt (https://www.thebalance.com/what-is-the-national-debt-4031393).
https://www.thebalance.com/who-owns-the-u-s-national-debt-3306124
Well done
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCXpkAPQvhk
Martinjmpr
08-29-2016, 12:34
Has anyone seen even ONE Trump ad on the major networks? Hillary's various front groups keep hammering away and Trump seems to be silent. We're a major battleground state but Trump doesn't think it's worth it to try and win here?
Just reinforces my belief that Trump doesn't really want to win. He wants the publicity, but he doesn't want the job.
hollohas
08-29-2016, 12:42
Radio today said he just purchased $10M in advertising in battleground states including CO.
Has anyone seen even ONE Trump ad on the major networks? Hillary's various front groups keep hammering away and Trump seems to be silent. We're a major battleground state but Trump doesn't think it's worth it to try and win here?
Just reinforces my belief that Trump doesn't really want to win. He wants the publicity, but he doesn't want the job.
Who's he going to work with in a state where the Republican leadership handed the nomination to Cruz without a vote?
That fact alone should boost his turnout in November more than any TV ads.
Does anyone pay attention to TV ads anymore?
Great-Kazoo
08-29-2016, 19:40
Who's he going to work with in a state where the Republican leadership handed the nomination to Cruz without a vote?
That fact alone should boost his turnout in November more than any TV ads.
Does anyone pay attention to TV ads anymore?
Lets not forget the RNC tossing Glen aside.
You either support ALL CANDIDATES or none. This cherry picking who they support money wise is bullshit. One more reason this election cycle will be the death of the R party.
hurley842002
08-29-2016, 19:48
Radio today said he just purchased $10M in advertising in battleground states including CO.
Also saw this on the news, while HRC pulled all funding from Colorado.
Scum
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/08/ted-cruz-supporters-running-anti-trump-tv-ads-swing-states/
Led by Regina Thompson - delegate from Colorado
Anti-Trump Republicans are preparing to launch a broadcast TV ad in a handful of swing-state suburbs urging Donald Trump to quit the presidential race so the party can replace him with a more electable nominee.
The ad, titled “Keep Your Word,” features footage of Trump during the Republican primary in which he suggested he’d drop out if he saw his poll numbers decline…
..The 30-second spot is marked for a limited run on broadcast networks in suburban Florida, Virginia, Ohio and Michigan, according to Regina Thomson, a Colorado Republican activist and leader of Free the Delegates, the organization that failed to stop Trump’s nomination at last month’s national convention. All four states are central to Trump’s path to the White House, though he’s trailing in most polls of those states.
The ad is backed by a five-figure buy, according to Thomson, but the group hopes to eventually expand its run to Fox News Channel.
hollohas
08-29-2016, 21:48
Who's he going to work with in a state where the Republican leadership handed the nomination to Cruz without a vote?
That fact alone should boost his turnout in November more than any TV ads.
Does anyone pay attention to TV ads anymore?
You need to stop perpetuating this lie. Colorado had a caucus and has for quite some time. Nobody accused Colorado of not having a vote before this year, even though, at the core, caucuses in years past operated much the same.
The people who showed up to caucus had their voices heard and the majority opinions at each caucus elected delegates whom supported the same candidate as them.
No, there were no binding votes, but that point is moot. The delegates voted for the majority opinion caucus goers by proxy at the convention. Thats how the system is setup.
You think the caucus and convention issue will boost voter turnout? The system didn't motivate Trump supporters to bother to show up to caucus, so I'm not so sure that will be a motivator to turn out for the general either.
But here's the kicker. The caucuses sent Cruz supporting delegates to the convention, but because their votes were not bound, they had the freedom to vote for Trump. Very few made that choice however because Trump flat out ignored our state...he didnt even bother to show up. He didn't get Colorado delegates because he didn't earn them.
You want a vote? Show up to the caucus next time or start a petition to change back to a primary.
You need to stop perpetuating this lie. Colorado had a caucus and has for quite some time. Nobody accused Colorado of not having a vote before this year, even though, at the core, caucuses in years past operated much the same.
The people who showed up to caucus had their voices heard and the majority opinions at each caucus elected delegates whom supported the same candidate as them.
No, there were no binding votes, but that point is moot. The delegates voted for the majority opinion caucus goers by proxy at the convention. Thats how the system is setup.
You think the caucus and convention issue will boost voter turnout? The system didn't motivate Trump supporters to bother to show up to caucus, so I'm not so sure that will be a motivator to turn out for the general either.
But here's the kicker. The caucuses sent Cruz supporting delegates to the convention, but because their votes were not bound, they had the freedom to vote for Trump. Very few made that choice however because Trump flat out ignored our state...he didnt even bother to show up. He didn't get Colorado delegates because he didn't earn them.
You want a vote? Show up to the caucus next time or start a petition to change back to a primary.
So full of fail, I don't even know where to start.
Here's one of the better articles explaining the last minute changes made for the 2016 primary season. You know, the one where they took the vote away from the people of Colorado:
http://www.denverpost.com/2015/08/25/colorado-republicans-cancel-presidential-vote-at-2016-caucus/
The move makes Colorado the only state so far to forfeit a role in the early nomination process, according to political experts, but other caucus states are still considering how to adapt to the new rule.
“It takes Colorado completely off the map” in the primary season, said Ryan Call, a former state GOP chairman.
Republicans still will hold precinct caucus meetings in early 2016 to begin the process of selecting delegates for the national convention — but the 37 delegates are not pledged to any specific candidate.
For Republicans, no declared winner means the caucus will lack much of its hype. The presidential campaigns still may try to win delegate slots for their supporters, but experts say the move makes it less likely that candidates will visit Colorado to court voters.
How bout starting a "Cruz for President 2016" thread. I'm sure it will be enlightening.
Cruz is going to lose his seat in Texas to Perry. Followed by much wailing and gnashing of teeth.
The icing on the cake will be when President Trump gets him deported back to Canada.
Chief_of_Scouts
08-30-2016, 06:33
You want a vote? Show up to the caucus next time or start a petition to change back to a primary.
Start a petition? I thought that was what I-140 is all about, unless I am misunderstanding you?
The Presidential Primary Election Initiative (I-140) (https://ballotpedia.org/Colorado_Presidential_Primary_Election_Initiative_ (2016)) Initiative 140 would restore presidential primary elections held before the end of March and make them open in Colorado. Currently, Colorado utilizes a closed primary system, in which only registered party members may participate in a party's primary. However, unaffiliated voters may choose to affiliate with a party on Election Day in order to vote in that party's primary.
Aloha_Shooter
08-30-2016, 19:07
Open primaries is how Trump stole the nomination in the first place. How many of the new voters he "pulled" into the Republican party to vote in the primaries will vote Republican in the General? I'm a damned independent and I have no business selecting who the Republican or Democrat nominees should be unless I'm willing to join their parties. In Colorado, you don't even have to join until the primary and you can swap back out almost immediately. Having said all that, I'm at least as disgusted with so-called Republicans or conservatives who continue the anti-Trump BS after the convention as I was with the pro-Trump people who threatened to take their toys and stay home or vote third party if he didn't get the nomination.
Hillary Clinton is absolutely the worst possible selection for the future of the Republic and if you don't get that after her 30+ years of documented corruption and misbehavior, you don't deserve to claim to be a constitutionalist or a conservative. The country is where it is today in part because TR (one of the most pro-American presidents of all time and one of my top 5 favorites) chose to oppose Taft in 1912 and gave the election to Wilson. Over a century later, we appear to be ready to repeat that disaster. I respected the hell out of Ross Perot as a man but he and his supporters basically gave the 1992 AND 1996 elections to Bill Clinton, resulting in today's corruption of the civil service system and the departments of Justice, Treasury, and State.
http://vidmax.com/video/145145-This-fan-made-Donald-Trump-video-could-be-one-of-the-best-ones-yet-
Velocitas, Opprimere,
Violentia Operandi
DavieD55
09-15-2016, 00:00
Home Depot weighing in.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=19U2tT0YXY8
https://theconservativetreehouse.files.wordpress.com/2016/09/concealed-carry-ok.jpg?w=640
68Charger
09-16-2016, 16:36
"If Hillary calls you deplorable, you're ok in my book"
KestrelBike
09-16-2016, 17:28
So Trump came on stage at the Florida Rally today to this... the sheer genius, quasi-trolling is so hilarious and awesome. Love the eagle.
67169
DavieD55
09-18-2016, 23:03
President of Haiti and the klinton foundation.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=phKO2T2pMjM#t=283
Great-Kazoo
09-20-2016, 08:56
I dupe'd this from pwt.
I hear that train a comin’
It’s rollin’ round the bend.
Gonna pick up Mrs. Clinton
And take her to the pen.
They’ll have her coronation
Make her cell block queen
Hillary for prison
two thousand and sixteen
They’ve got an orange pants suit
Hangin’ on the wall
And a cell for Bubba Willie
Just a little down the hall.
We’ll put ‘em in the big house
Lock them up inside.
Unless a whole lot of witnesses
Commit suicide.
Remember James McDougal
And 20 or 30 more
About to testify, they found ‘em dead upon the floor.
Now they’re pilin’ up the bodies
Like they did back then
They want back in the White House
Here we go again.
Glue the china to the table
Nail the table to the floor
Lock up all the silver
‘fore they haul it out the door
White trash in the White House
Beats all I’ve ever seen.
Hillary for prison
two thousand and sixteen
Ok...Trump has officially stepped in it with freedom loving Americans, when he wholeheartedly gushed about the effectiveness of "Stop and Frisk". Fuck...320 million citizens in this country, and these are our choices? [facepalm]
http://youtu.be/mFmRR-lzjlQ
Clearly trying to suck up to "law & order republicans"
Stupid idea to advocate for unconstitutional practices, no matter how well they worked.
How come no one is talking about his up coming rape trial?
How come no one is talking about his up coming rape trial?
Because the odds of success are not in the plaintiff's favor.
And?
If the plaintiff is most likely a money hungry nobody who made up the whole story, and it appears obvious that is the case, then covering her accusations and likely downfall would appear to be picking on her. Media does not get points for picking on poor people, no matter who they are accusing.
If the story had any chance of credibility, it would be front-page news. It does not, and therefore is not.
hollohas
09-22-2016, 13:11
Ok...Trump has officially stepped in it with freedom loving Americans, when he wholeheartedly gushed about the effectiveness of "Stop and Frisk". Fuck...320 million citizens in this country, and these are our choices? [facepalm]
http://youtu.be/mFmRR-lzjlQ
I don't think so. None of his previous authoritarian comments/ideas hurt him, and this won't either. His supporters have simply ignored that characteristic all along.
People seem to understand he's the better option, even with comments like this. Hillary is no question a bigger threat to freedom. The choices suck, but one is unquestionably better than the other and I think for that reason alone, this won't damage his chances.
If the plaintiff is most likely a money hungry nobody who made up the whole story, and it appears obvious that is the case, then covering her accusations and likely downfall would appear to be picking on her. Media does not get points for picking on poor people, no matter who they are accusing.
If the story had any chance of credibility, it would be front-page news. It does not, and therefore is not.
While that sounds reasonable, it really doesn't fit the idea that the media is controlled by liberals that will do anything and everything to hurt Trump amd help Hillary. Just the screams from anti-Trumpers alone about a rape case should make the news. Media thrives on controversy, whether they are the center of it or not, and I can't imagine any media outlet being afraid of looking like they are picking on a poor girl when in the same breath they'd be calling Trump a racist.
Heck, the only reason the Treyvon Martin case even went to trial was because of the media.
While that sounds reasonable, it really doesn't fit the idea that the media is controlled by liberals that will do anything and everything to hurt Trump amd help Hillary. Just the screams from anti-Trumpers alone about a rape case should make the news. Media thrives on controversy, whether they are the center of it or not, and I can't imagine any media outlet being afraid of looking like they are picking on a poor girl when in the same breath they'd be calling Trump a racist.
Heck, the only reason the Treyvon Martin case even went to trial was because of the media.
The media has surely looked into this case, and apparently decided it is frivolous.
Covering a bogus civil suit that Trump will undoubtedly win, is not in the interest of the liberal media.
Trump has frivolous suits filed against him all the time. This is simply not newsworthy.
Great-Kazoo
09-22-2016, 15:52
While that sounds reasonable, it really doesn't fit the idea that the media is controlled by liberals that will do anything and everything to hurt Trump amd help Hillary. Just the screams from anti-Trumpers alone about a rape case should make the news. Media thrives on controversy, whether they are the center of it or not, and I can't imagine any media outlet being afraid of looking like they are picking on a poor girl when in the same breath they'd be calling Trump a racist.
Heck, the only reason the Treyvon Martin case even went to trial was because of the media.
The media has surely looked into this case, and apparently decided it is frivolous.
Covering a bogus civil suit that Trump will undoubtedly win, is not in the interest of the liberal media.
Trump has frivolous suits filed against him all the time. This is simply not newsworthy.
IF they opened a case, Trump would ask why BC wasn't put on trial. He Said, She Said.
This election is about who can lob the BUT, BUT they did it the hardest. Throw in Racist, Homophobic etc. Shit like the "allegations" are back seat fodder.
I don't think so. None of his previous authoritarian comments/ideas hurt him, and this won't either. His supporters have simply ignored that characteristic all along.
People seem to understand he's the better option, even with comments like this. Hillary is no question a bigger threat to freedom. The choices suck, but one is unquestionably better than the other and I think for that reason alone, this won't damage his chances.
Trumps authoritarian stuff disturbs me greatly. Trump is head and shoulders the better choice.
Oh, I'll still vote Giant Douche over Turd Sandwich, but it dismays me greatly that the bar is SOOOOOO fucking low...
hurley842002
09-22-2016, 17:40
Oh, I'll still vote Giant Douche over Turd Sandwich, but it dismays me greatly that the bar is SOOOOOO fucking low...
Yup, this is where I stand.
hollohas
09-22-2016, 17:42
Agreed.
Great-Kazoo
09-22-2016, 20:16
Yup, this is where I stand.
Or lay
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iTKj_Vd5_Bk
Aloha_Shooter
09-22-2016, 20:30
Oh, I'll still vote Giant Douche over Turd Sandwich, but it dismays me greatly that the bar is SOOOOOO fucking low...
This is something I can't argue with. With so many great candidates to start, I can't believe I'm stuck voting for Trump to avoid Hillary.
Oh, I'll still vote Giant Douche over Turd Sandwich, but it dismays me greatly that the bar is SOOOOOO fucking low...
This is something I can't argue with. With so many great candidates to start, I can't believe I'm stuck voting for Trump to avoid Hillary.
Agreed, so promising at the start.
Great-Kazoo
09-22-2016, 23:10
This is something I can't argue with. With so many great candidates to start, I can't believe I'm stuck voting for Trump to avoid Hillary.
It shows the weakness of the R contenders.
This is all from the people saying WE NEED SOMEONE DIFFERENT TO RUN FOR OFFICE, for years.
Well we got him. It also explains why Obama has got away with so much. A Legislature who (while saying in public) how much Obama is a leftist, actually supported his agenda.
Those R's should be removed from office. Hence the Establishment Politicians ALL saying #NeverTrump.
He wins this and they know their elitist status has shit the bed. All that lobbyist money. Kiss it good fukin bye!
Donald Trump wants to completely repeal the federal estate tax. Hillary Clinton wants to raise it in two key ways. On this issue, their views could not be more opposite. Whether you call it an estate tax, a death tax, or a tax on accumulated wealth, it is controversial. It is entirely distinct from income tax. You pay income tax as you earn, but whatever you have left at your death, might be taxed again.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/robertwood/2016/08/09/hillary-vows-estate-tax-hikes-while-trump-vows-repeal/#550edde95c0f
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Velocitas, Opprimere,
Violentia Operandi
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xrkPe-9rM1Q
Should be in the funny video thread, but this is ok too. Made me lol.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_LOxq6j4FM&feature=youtu.be
http://netrightdaily.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/Cut-Off-NRD-600.jpg
hurley842002
09-30-2016, 10:19
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DavieD55
10-08-2016, 20:53
https://scontent-dft4-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-0/s526x395/14567983_647496342080259_7068870704112655524_n.jpg ?oh=225ecae6987dc1e7dda79fa47e05c39e&oe=586F7102
http://www.tbo.com/storyimage/TB/20150625/ARTICLE/150629545/EP/1/1/EP-150629545.jpg
kidicarus13
10-08-2016, 21:47
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20161009/346725e9a6f91767f2271dcb911c0077.jpg
Trump killed it tonight. I spit stuff at my screen when he compared "Honest Abe" with Crooked Hillary.
Trump hit back, making fun of Clinton for comparing her comments to the actions of Lincoln.
“She lied. Now she’s blaming the lie on the late, great Abraham Lincoln,” Trump said. “Honest Abe never lied. That’s the big difference between Abraham Lincoln and you. That’s a big, big difference. We’re talking about some difference.”
https://www.yahoo.com/news/honest-abe-never-lied-trump-mocks-clinton-for-citing-lincoln-at-debate-022803257.html
Velocitas, Opprimere,
Violentia Operandi
hurley842002
10-09-2016, 21:53
Trump killed it tonight. I spit stuff at my screen when he compared "Honest Abe" with Crooked Hillary.
Velocitas, Opprimere,
Violentia Operandi
Was wondering when someone would chime in on the debate. I was watching a bunch of overpaid thugs throw around the pig skin, much better than watching a bunch of biased liberals bend over backwards for a criminal.
Was wondering when someone would chime in on the debate. I was watching a bunch of overpaid thugs throw around the pig skin, much better than watching a bunch of biased liberals bend over backwards for a criminal.
That's a tough call on which is worse. I watched the debate only because my wife wanted to.
Great-Kazoo
10-09-2016, 23:30
That's a tough call on which is worse. I watched the debate only because my wife wanted to.
Which show had more people sitting down for the National Anthem ?
Is there anyway Trump survives this latest stumble? Seeing support grow tremendously on FB for Hillary lately. Lord have mercy.
hurley842002
10-10-2016, 09:48
Is there anyway Trump survives this latest stumble? Seeing support grow tremendously on FB for Hillary lately. Lord have mercy.
I've not seen one positive thing about Hillary on my FB, you must surround yourself by a bunch of liberals....
I've not seen one positive thing about Hillary on my FB, you must surround yourself by a bunch of liberals....
LOL. Neat jab but I think its more of a reflection of my age bracket.
ETA: Its not just postings from individuals. Lots of stories of "That's not locker room talk" and "I was sexually assaulted and Trump laughs about it" from the media branch of Clinton's campaign AKA Facebook "trends".
hurley842002
10-10-2016, 10:09
LOL. Neat jab but I think its more of a reflection of my age bracket.
ETA: Its not just postings from individuals. Lots of stories of "That's not locker room talk" and "I was sexually assaulted and Trump laughs about it" from the media branch of Clinton's campaign AKA Facebook "trends".
Which age bracket is that?
Interesting, I've literally seen nothing, even in the "trends".
Im 32 so ages range upper 30's to high 20's. Its not so much support for Hillary as the tearing down of Trump while ignoring anything Hillary has done/said.
Amber Tamblyn was a trending thing this morning per FB so I clicked it to see and that was the article talking about a prior assualt and how Trump laughs while she is permanently changed.
One of my friends that is normally all about Johnson posted a long post about "if you're mad at hillary for this, but not for <insert long list of things that republicans/trump did> then you're an idiot".
Thirdly, saw plenty of articles saying "Men dont appreciate you calling it locker room talk as men don't talk that way" being shared and promoted.
In my true circle of friends (real life vs internet), no, I dont have any hillary supporters. But I do find it intriguing to keep tabs on the other side and see what they're saying/feeling/doing.
hurley842002
10-10-2016, 10:28
Im 32 so ages range upper 30's to high 20's..
Same age as me.
Ok? All I'm saying is what I'm seeing. Glad you're not seeing the same thing. I logged in this morning and got hit with 4 things either pro-Hillary or tearing Trump apart and questioning anyone that supports him.
What Trump said 11 years ago was wrong. It was wrong then and it is still wrong today. He has admitted that and has apologized for making the statements.
What Hillary Clinton was responsible for while being paid by the taxpayers to represent our nation to the world was wrong, and illegal, regardless of whether she is prosecuted or not. She has apologized for some of her illegal conduct while continuing to lie or obfuscate about other conduct.
Do their apologies mean anything to you?
Does their conduct change the way you will vote in this election?
Is there anyway Trump survives this latest stumble? Seeing support grow tremendously on FB for Hillary lately. Lord have mercy.
Karl Denninger sums it up nicely:
http://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=231536
The Sexual Undertone You WON'T Hear In The Media
Let's get the easy part out of the way first: What Trump said 10 years ago and was caught on open mic, then held until it could be released right when the Dems were scared of what Wikileaks had just revealed about their candidate, was both boorish and outrageous.
It was also an honest reflection by a man without a filter who in fact was describing something that I have personally seen with my own eyes and is 100% correct.
There is a pretty ugly little undercurrent when it comes to sex and sexuality that a lot of people know damn well is right but they don't like it, so they refuse to talk about it. When confronted with it they get defensive or attack the messenger, which is exactly what happened here.
So let's talk about that just a bit.
First, let us define terms. Sexual assault only happens if there is no consent. A woman who "lets you do it" is consenting. No means no and yes means yes.
What Trump said was that "they'll let you do it." Well, there is a certain subset of women to whom that applies if they think you're rich, powerful or both.
It doesn't matter if they're married, have a boyfriend, or whatever. They simply don't care; they want to screw the rich guy and they're going to unless you, as the rich guy, say no. And let's be straight with people here -- a larger percentage of men will say "oh hell yeah" than there are women who have this particular thing going on in their head.
There are a couple of "poker runs" that happen in the local area here featuring lots of loud, fast cigarette-style boats. An utterly-amazing percentage of them feature a 50ish fat and ugly dude driving and a bunch of 20 year old women wearing just enough to not get arrested hanging all over him. There will be those who say "oh they just want a boat ride"; to them I will point out that I've come around the corner in a nice quiet cove more than once and seen the beast with two backs -- there was certainly a ride being given but.....
The price of admission? About $200 large or thereabouts for something impressive enough to counter the extra 30 years of fat and ugly dude compared against the very beautiful 20ish year old girls on board. Believe me, the note on that boat plus the 100+ gallons of fuel burn per hour is, for many of these guys, worth it.
Then there's this -- for a number of years here I owned a 45 Hatteras. I used to get propositioned with some regularity too. It's simply amazing how all those propositions disappeared literally on the day I no longer had said boat.
Hmmm... did I really get that much older, fatter and/or uglier in 24 hours? I don't think so, but perhaps you have some other explanation.... eh?
Let's face reality -- women "open the door" when they'd like to hook up -- or more. When it comes to consensual sexual contact in places other than forced-repressive regimes such as Iran and Saudi Arabia women, not men, are the ones who make that decision. If you're a man when she makes that decision you either aggressively pursue at that point or you're not getting laid -- period.
When it comes to women who like to play with men that have perceived money, power or both they do not care about what anyone else thinks -- they want it, they make damn sure their target knows they want it, and if he has any interest at all then that's that. The smart women in this group know damn well they're just out for a good time; there are a few who get delusions of grandeur mixed in with it (e.g. "oh he'll love me if I **** him") but that almost-always ends badly.
Reality is that sex has a price and I'm not talking about prostitution. I'm talking about the fact that you can easily triple your odds of getting laid in this area by simply buying a $250,000 loud penis-extender style boat, whether you can pay cash for it or simply float the payments. The same is almost-certainly true in any big city in America if you buy a Lambo along with a $5,000 suit and tool around to the nightclubs in it -- providing someone doesn't steal the car, that is.
That is what Trump was talking about, and while it was rude, unbecoming and insulting it is also true. Of the woman in question he was talking about what married woman lets a guy other than her husband take her furniture shopping (where do you think the furniture is going to go?) if she's not thinking about banging him?
REALLY?
Attack the guy for having no filter if you want, especially in 2005 -- because he clearly didn't have one!
But that a couple of men were discussing the state of what is when it comes to rich and powerful men, and the women who like to bed them and aggressively open the door to same is surprising to..... whom?
Only those who want to deny that women, in point of fact, are just as capable of aggressively seeking out sexual contact with those who they desire, and that some subset of them desire to do so with men they perceive as rich, powerful or both.
If you're in that group then what you are asserting is in fact that women are infants and incapable of making sexual decisions on their own, deciding who they wish to sleep with on whatever terms they, and they alone, decide.
Are you sure you really want to go there?
Davsel, thank you for that. That is nicely put. Too bad the left wont hear any of it. Im serious too. If you were to post that on a social media site, I bet you'd get ripped to pieces for "defending" Trump's comments.
Aloha_Shooter
10-10-2016, 11:37
So all the establishment globalist republicons along with the fixed establishment media are pulling their support from the Donald again over a few bad words he said well over a decade ago.
Nevermind klinton's gun running to enemies of the USA in Benghazi
Nevermind william's history of being a rapist
Nevermind the klinton's money laundering operation through their klinton foundation
Nevermind the espionage secretary klinton was engaged in with her illegal email server
Nevermind the wide open borders
Nevermind the fast and furious gun running operation false flag to blame Americans and the 2A
Nevermind the constant fraudulent war gaming throughout the middle east and now in Syria, trying to kick off WWIII with Russia
Nevermind the the federal government is completely corrupt and out of control
But, they sure are scared of Donald Trump knowing they may lose control over their criminal enterprise crime syndicate that they are using to destroy and overthrow this nation from the inside out with.
I think the issue is that they still need to pull in as much of the women's vote as they can, especially on the side races. Remember, we need to not only get back the presidency but retain effective control of both the House and Senate in order to undo all the damage that Obama/Pelosi/Reid put in from 2006-2010. Congresses of 2012 and 2014 were somewhat ineffective because they were bottlenecked at the Senate, the White House, or both. Reagan was stymied on his efforts to reduce the federal government by Democrat control of the House. The other Republicans running can't afford to have their opponents spring a "oh, you support sexual assault and manhandling women" charge against them.
I think this late video was intended to be Hillary's October surprise. You can't tell me her minions in Hollywood didn't know about this video for years and have it waiting in the wings for just the right moment. No one does opposition research and smear campaigns like the Clintons.
Great-Kazoo
10-10-2016, 14:24
I think this late video was intended to be Hillary's October surprise. You can't tell me her minions in Hollywood didn't know about this video for years and have it waiting in the wings for just the right moment. No one does opposition research and smear campaigns like the Clintons.
Yet Corey Haim, being sexually assaulted for years in hollywood story, no longer exist. Even though it made internet headlines for maybe 2-3 days, then gone. Go figure.
I think this late video was intended to be Hillary's October surprise. You can't tell me her minions in Hollywood didn't know about this video for years and have it waiting in the wings for just the right moment. No one does opposition research and smear campaigns like the Clintons.
Huh....so it turns out she IS capable of protecting confidential information, when it suits her.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fq_ZosSy_9I
Oh boy...here we go. Full steam ahead.
Three women accused Donald Trump of groping or kissing them without their consent in news reports published Wednesday, just days after the Republican presidential nominee insisted in a debate that he had never engaged in such behavior.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2016/10/12/two-women-accuse-trump-of-unwanted-sexual-touching/?hpid=hp_hp-top-table-main_trumpassault-8pm%3Ahomepage%2Fstory
hurley842002
10-12-2016, 20:29
Oh boy...here we go. Full steam ahead.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2016/10/12/two-women-accuse-trump-of-unwanted-sexual-touching/?hpid=hp_hp-top-table-main_trumpassault-8pm%3Ahomepage%2Fstory
Amazing they'd wait until now to say something, this fu$@ing circus just keeps getting better, can we fast forward to November 8th and get it over with?
Great-Kazoo
10-12-2016, 23:13
It amazes me (and really, doesn't amaze me...) as to how hard the media is pushing anti- trump rhetoric at this stage in the game. They aren't even trying to feign the bias anymore.
And all the GOP/libertarian/independent sheep are bleating it right up. "I'm outraged because the media repeatedly told me to be outraged!". That pretty much sums up where we are today.
Early on in the campaign the media was arguably pro-trump. That - as you can see in some of the wikilinks side of things - probably has a lot to do with the fact that trump was polling the worst against hillary as all the possible nominees, all of the rest whom appeared they were likely to beat her. So they desperately needed Trump nominated. Then they hold all these faux outrage cards until the last moment.
Like I've said before - the winner of this race was already decided years ago. To those that are outraged, I have to ask is your feelings legitimate, or are you in fact, bleating with the sheep. Think about it....
Been the topic of numerous conversations had. one of them this morning. The question is...... how bad does the voting public want to see the Fix taken down. Clearly there cannot be that many people bamboozled by this shit show. or can there? We did get 2 terms of Obama.
It amazes me (and really, doesn't amaze me...) as to how hard the media is pushing anti- trump rhetoric at this stage in the game. [ snip ]
100% agree with your post.
Aloha_Shooter
10-13-2016, 18:33
It amazes me (and really, doesn't amaze me...) as to how hard the media is pushing anti- trump rhetoric at this stage in the game. They aren't even trying to feign the bias anymore.
And all the GOP/libertarian/independent sheep are bleating it right up. "I'm outraged because the media repeatedly told me to be outraged!". That pretty much sums up where we are today.
Early on in the campaign the media was arguably pro-trump. That - as you can see in some of the wikilinks side of things - probably has a lot to do with the fact that trump was polling the worst against hillary as all the possible nominees, all of the rest whom appeared they were likely to beat her. So they desperately needed Trump nominated. Then they hold all these faux outrage cards until the last moment.
Like I've said before - the winner of this race was already decided years ago. To those that are outraged, I have to ask is your feelings legitimate, or are you in fact, bleating with the sheep. Think about it....
The media was pro-Trump early because it was clear (or they figured) that Trump was the candidate Hillary would have the best chance against. Hell, Podesta's own emails say that and it's clear Hillary's campaign was colluding with the media (or more accurately, vice-versa). The anti-establishment Republicans and independents ate up the pro-Trump rhetoric and pushed him to a primary win just as the Leftists wanted. It's not surprising at all that the media then turned around to beat down on Trump -- raising a bunch of FUD about Trump is the only way Hillary can get elected.
The Rs could have put a half rotted head of cabbage against Hitlary, and won. Instead we have Trump, and I'm not so sure.
This election is a dumpster fire at a sewage treatment plant. Literally, the only thin Hitlary has going for her is that she's NOT Trump, and that may well be enough to get her elected, if the media has its way.
hurley842002
10-13-2016, 19:38
if the media has its way.
Which they will, and I agree with the rest of your post.
JohnnyDrama
10-13-2016, 20:39
Been the topic of numerous conversations had. one of them this morning. The question is...... how bad does the voting public want to see the Fix taken down. Clearly there cannot be that many people bamboozled by this shit show. or can there? We did get 2 terms of Obama.
I'm just wondering how choreographed the last few weeks have been....
Clinton lets slip the "basket of deplorables" comment which she seems to sorta, kinda, maybe-I-was-a-little-outta-line back pedals from after the "outrage" that she would insult the good citizens of this country that way. Then, tapes revealing Trump saying rather rude things emerge and the outrage starts all over again, this time intended to make people ashamed for taking the moral high ground.
Is Clinton playing the public with the aid of the media or is the media just playing along?
The Clinton machine makes the Obama machine look like amateur hour.
Great-Kazoo
10-13-2016, 21:07
I'm just wondering how choreographed the last few weeks have been....
Is Clinton playing the public with the aid of the media or is the media just playing along? BOTH
.
26 days from election tuesday and they're a;ready throwing the vote.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/early-voting-offers-positive-signs-key-states-clinton-203334221--election.html
My prediction: 6 p.m MST the polls close (8 p.m.) on the east coast. 60 min before they close, the media calls almost all the east coast for Hillary.
DavieD55
10-13-2016, 22:36
Currently in the United States of America, the main-stream media is completely against the best interests of this country and is like the fifth column.
Currently in the United States of America, the main-stream media is completely against the best interests of this country and is like the fifth column.
Hell, at least half the population stands against their own best interests. I'm just waiting for the wailing and gnashing of teeth when the chickens come home to roost.
Bailey Guns
10-14-2016, 10:02
Hell, at least half the population stands against their own best interests. I'm just waiting for the wailing and gnashing of teeth when the chickens come home to roost.
Me, too. When that happens and people do it it should be legal to shoot them in the face if they voted democrat.
Great-Kazoo
10-14-2016, 11:36
Me, too. When that happens and people do it it should be legal to shoot them in the face if they voted democrat.
Year round in season like varmints. Have a special permit from DOW call it a Snoflake seasonal pass ;)
http://scontent.fsnc1-5.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/14729193_1351555254874752_6612051897590432987_n.jp g?oh=4c63026aa517aa8467222f393c0ae3d0&oe=5869A7DF
Polls are garbage.
Real data matters.
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2016/10/19/anti-gaslighting-raw-and-current-state-vote-data-not-remotely-close-to-media-polling/#more-123375
Fortunately, we are at the stage in the presidential race where it is actually possible to guage what’s going on by looking at ballots, early voting, absentee ballot distribution modeling, and comparisons to prior elections. Even if the media doesn’t want to take that approach, we can do it ourselves.
Reader/Contributor “FLEPOREBLOG (https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2016/10/18/media-polls/#comment-3101790)” has assembled some data to highlight reality. Empirical data rebukes the gaslighting and help people break the abusive cycle of battered voter syndrome:
Betting Markets that Predicted Brexit Vote Are Pointing to Trump Victory (http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/10/betting-markets-predicted-brexit-vote-pointing-trump-victory/)
Bookmaker William Hill says 71 per cent of the money so far staked is for Democrat Hillary Clinton. But 65 per cent of the bets by number are for the controversial Republican.That means a lot more punters are putting smaller bets on Trump, almost exactly the same pattern as was seen in the run up to the Brexit vote when the money was for Remain but the majority of bets were for Leave.
Zundfolge
10-19-2016, 15:18
Polls are garbage.
Real data matters.
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2016/10/19/anti-gaslighting-raw-and-current-state-vote-data-not-remotely-close-to-media-polling/#more-123375
My only concern is that we went through all this in 2012. We had a lot of very smart people showing us line by line how the weighting and methodology and what not were all askew.
But then on election day Romney lost by pretty much what the polls said he would.
So why is this different than 2012? Why were the polls right then and not now?
I want to believe Trump is going to win, but I'd rather be pleasantly surprised than let down.
My fear is that the truth is that the polls are rigged now just as they were in 2012 but they’re rigged to justify the rigged election.
The biggest difference between now and 2012 is the enthusiasm. There has been a consistent massive turnout for Trump vs. the pitiful turnout for Romney.
I believe many stayed home in 2012, and have decided to not make that mistake again.
For what it's worth, I looked into what the betting people were saying in 2012 and everyone was betting on Obama.
Zundfolge
10-19-2016, 15:51
The biggest difference between now and 2012 is the enthusiasm.
True, but the vote of a Trump supporter doing the pee-pee dance before they vote and a Democrat sighing and saying "I guess we're stuck with Hillary" still count the same.
kidicarus13
10-19-2016, 19:43
I have my $$$ on Rodham. Prepare for this country to change drastically. Unfortunately, there are now just too many "progressives" in this country for Trump to win.
Firearms related: If you want it/need it, buy it now.
Great-Kazoo
10-19-2016, 19:49
I have my $$$ on Rodham. Prepare for this country to change drastically. Unfortunately, there are now just too many "progressives" in this country for Trump to win.
Firearms related: If you want it/need it, buy it now.
20+ years too late.
hurley842002
10-19-2016, 19:50
http://scontent.fsnc1-5.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/14729193_1351555254874752_6612051897590432987_n.jp g?oh=4c63026aa517aa8467222f393c0ae3d0&oe=5869A7DF
They put up THE best messages!
Yeah...I ordered some ammo tonight.
hurley842002
10-19-2016, 19:57
Observation my wife just made....
She follows BJ and Jamie, radio personalities for Alice 105.9 on Facebook. They just posted the quest on Facebook asking their listener's "Trump or Clinton?", the votes for Trump were about 50 for every 1 Clinton vote. Not scientific by any means, and no telling how many of these people will actually vote, but I thought it was interesting.
Observation my wife just made....
She follows BJ and Jamie, radio personalities for Alice 105.9 on Facebook. They just posted the quest on Facebook asking their listener's "Trump or Clinton?", the votes for Trump were about 50 for every 1 Clinton vote. Not scientific by any means, and no telling how many of these people will actually vote, but I thought it was interesting.
That would be awesome, remember the Brexit stay people were celebrating even after the polls opened.
Best debate so far, it's too bad that neither Trump or Wallace knew the Heller decision. I think those questions really had her flustered but she got away with saying it was about protecting toddlers.
Observation my wife just made....
She follows BJ and Jamie, radio personalities for Alice 105.9 on Facebook. They just posted the quest on Facebook asking their listener's "Trump or Clinton?", the votes for Trump were about 50 for every 1 Clinton vote. Not scientific by any means, and no telling how many of these people will actually vote, but I thought it was interesting.
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Trump was asked about abortion, specifically Roe Vs. Wade and reversing that Supreme Court decision and said he will appoint pro life judges and they will in all probability indeed reverse that decision, which will then go to the States to decide this contentious issue. Hillary says she's going to continue to fund Planned Parenthood and push for all Womens right to choose and reiterated her support for Roe Vs. Wade including late term partial birth abortion.
IMO I believe this above all other issues will edge her out amongst the Amish/Mennonites, the South, Baptists, The Bible Belt, Catholics, and the Mormons.
Velocitas, Opprimere,
Violentia Operandi
Trump was asked about abortion, specifically Roe Vs. Wade and reversing that Supreme Court decision and said he will appoint pro life judges and they will in all probability indeed reverse that decision, which will then go to the States to decide this contentious issue. Hillary says she's going to continue to fund Planned Parenthood and push for all Womens right to choose and reiterated her support for Roe Vs. Wade including late term partial birth abortion.
IMO I believe this above all other issues will edge her out amongst the Amish/Mennonites, the South, Baptists, The Bible Belt, Catholics, and the Mormons.
Velocitas, Opprimere,
Violentia Operandi
Another missed opportunity for Trump. He could have asked something like "Are you saying that you support aborting a baby that could survive outside the womb"
hurley842002
10-19-2016, 22:06
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20161020/da1d13e2035a5ad1f6816a2ecf49669a.jpg
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So some idiot in the group THEGUNDERDOME decided to wreck a radio poll, which could have otherwise given a small sample of where folks stood, smart.....
So some idiot in the group THEGUNDERDOME decided to wreck a radio poll, which could have otherwise given a small sample of where folks stood, smart.....
I did check the time stamps and he made the FB post after your post so what you saw may have been accurate. That said, I wouldnt trust the results now.
gnihcraes
10-19-2016, 23:27
So some idiot in the group THEGUNDERDOME decided to wreck a radio poll, which could have otherwise given a small sample of where folks stood, smart.....
I grabbed the data @ 211 and sorted it up... 62 Hillary to 99 Trump and a few others mixed in. I trimmed out the nonsense responses. (Pedro) and such.
not scientific.
sellersm
10-20-2016, 08:59
67575
I saw a bumper sticker today on I-25 that simply said
TRUMP
THAT
BITCH
It was a woman driving a single cab pickup.
It was a woman driving a single cab pickup.
They still make regular cab trucks?
She must of been driving a company truck.
Great-Kazoo
10-21-2016, 16:19
They still make regular cab trucks?
Yes see a moderate amount on the road.
#SINGLECABSMATTER
Even my company only buys extended cabs.
They won't get power windows or door locks or anything fancy like that but all the trucks are extended cabs.
Maybe my employer doesn't know they could be buying regular cab trucks?
Best speech of the Campaign so far
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tHsZxJlxHYw
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2016/10/21/stunning-donald-trump-speech-the-crossroads-in-our-history-video-and-transcript/
Transcript:
[...]Our movement is about replacing a failed and corrupt political establishment with a new government controlled by you, the American People. There is nothing the political establishment will not do, and no lie they will not tell, to hold on to their prestige and power at your expense.The Washington establishment, and the financial and media corporations that fund it, exists for only one reason: to protect and enrich itself.
The establishment has trillions of dollars at stake in this election. As an example, just one single trade deal they’d like to pass, involves trillions of dollars controlled by many countries, corporations and lobbyists.
For those who control the levers of power in Washington, and for the global special interests they partner with, our campaign represents an existential threat.
This is not simply another 4-year election. This is a crossroads in the history of our civilization that will determine whether or not We The People reclaim control over our government.
The political establishment that is trying everything to stop us, is the same group responsible for our disastrous trade deals, massive illegal immigration, and economic and foreign policies that have bled this country dry. The political establishment has brought about the destruction of our factories and our jobs, as they flee to Mexico, China and other countries throughout the world. Our just-announced jobs numbers are anemic, and our gross domestic product, or GDP, is barely above one percent. Workers in the United States, were making less than they were almost 20 years ago – and yet they are working harder.
It’s a global power structure that is responsible for the economic decisions that have robbed our working class, stripped our country of its wealth, and put that money into the pockets of a handful of large corporations and political entities.
Just look at what this corrupt establishment has done to our cities like Detroit and Flint, Michigan – and rural towns in Pennsylvania, Ohio, North Carolina and across our country. They have stripped these towns bare, and raided the wealth for themselves and taken away their jobs.
The Clinton Machine is at the center of this power structure. We’ve seen this firsthand in the WikiLeaks documents in which Hillary Clinton meets in secret with international banks to plot the destruction of U.S. sovereignty in order to enrich these global financial powers.
And, likewise, the emails show that the Clinton Machine is so closely and irrevocably tied to media organizations that she is given the questions and answers in advance of her debates. Clinton is also given approval and veto power over quotes written about her in the New York Times. And the emails show the reporters collaborate and conspire directly with the Clinton Campaign on helping her win the election.
With their control over our government at stake, with trillions of dollars on the line, the Clinton Machine is determined to achieve the destruction of our campaign, which has now become a movement the likes of which our country has never seen before – and we won’t let them do that.
The most powerful weapon deployed by the Clintons is the corporate media. Let’s be clear on one thing: the corporate media in our country is no longer involved in journalism. They are a political special interest, no different than any lobbyist or other financial entity with an agenda. And their agenda is to elect the Clintons at any cost, at any price, no matter how many lives they destroy.
For them, it is a war – and for them, nothing is out of bounds.
This is a struggle for the survival of our nation. This election will determine whether we are a free nation, or whether we have only the illusion of Democracy but are in fact controlled by a small handful of global special interests rigging the system.
This is not just conspiracy but reality, and you and I know it.
The establishment and their media enablers wield control over this nation through means that are well known. Anyone who challenges their control is deemed a sexist, a racist, a xenophobe and morally deformed. They will attack you, they will slander you, they will seek to destroy your career and reputation. And they will lie, lie and lie even more.
The Clintons are criminals. This is well-documented, and the establishment that protects them has engaged in a massive cover-up of widespread criminal activity at the State Department and Clinton Foundation in order to keep the Clintons in power. Never in history have we seen such a cover-up as this, one that includes the destruction of 33,000 emails, 13 phones, laptops, missing boxes of evidence, and on and on.
People who are capable of such crimes against our nation are capable of anything.
[…] But I take all of these slings and arrows for you. I take them for our movement, so that we can have our country back. Our great civilization, here in America and across the civilized world, has come upon a moment of reckoning.
We’ve seen it in the United Kingdom, where they voted to liberate themselves from global government and global trade deals and global immigration deals that have destroyed their sovereignty.
But the central base of world political power is here in America, and it is our corrupt political establishment that is the greatest power behind the efforts at radical globalization and the disenfranchisement of working people.
Their financial resources are unlimited. Their political resources are unlimited. Their media resources are unlimited. And, most importantly, the depths of their immorality is unlimited.
Our political establishment has no soul. I knew these false attacks would come. I knew this day would arrive. And I knew the American people would rise above it and vote for the future they deserve.
The only thing that can stop the Corrupt Clinton Machine is you. The only force strong enough to save this country is you. The only people brave enough to vote out this corrupt establishment is you, the American People.
They control the Department of Justice, and they even clandestinely meet with the Attorney General of the United States – in the back of her airplane, while on the runway – for 39 minutes – to most likely discuss her reappointment in a Clinton Administration just prior to the Attorney General making a decision over whether or not to prosecute Hillary Clinton.
Likewise, they have corrupted the Director of the FBI to the point at which stories are already saying the great men and women who work for the FBI are embarrassed and ashamed to what he’s done to one of our great institutions. Hillary Clinton is guilty of all of the things that Director Comey stated at his press conference and Congressional hearings, and far more – and yet he let her off the hook, while others lives are being destroyed for far less.
This is a conspiracy against you, the American people.
This is our moment of reckoning as a society and as a civilization.
I didn’t need to do this. I built a great company, and I had a wonderful life. I could have enjoyed the benefits of years of successful business for myself and my family, instead of going through this absolute horror show of lies, deceptions and malicious attacks. I’m doing it because this country has given me so much, and I feel strongly it was my turn to give back.
Some people warned me this campaign would be a journey to hell. But they are wrong, it will be a journey to heaven because we will help so many people.
In my former life, I was an insider as much as anybody else – and I know what’s like to be an insider. Now I am being punished for leaving their special club and revealing to you their great scam. Because I used to be part of the club, I’m the only one who can fix it. I’m doing this for the people, and this movement is just right – and we will take back this country for you and Make America Great Again.
The corrupt establishment knows that we are an existential threat to their criminal enterprise. They know, that if we win, their power is gone and returned to you. The clouds hanging over our government can be lifted, and replaced with a bright future – but it all depends on whether we let the New York Times decide our future, or whether we let the American people decide our future.
If this Clinton Campaign of Destruction is allowed to work, then no other highly successful person – which is what our country needs – will ever again run for this office.
I will not lie to you. These false attacks hurt. To be lied about, to be slandered, to be smeared so publicly and before your family, is painful.
What the Clinton Machine is doing to me, and my family, is egregious beyond words. It is reprehensible beyond description.
But I also know, it’s not about me – it’s about all of you. It’s about all of us, together, as a country.
It’s about the Veterans who need medical care, the mothers who’ve lost children to terrorism and crime, it’s about the inner cities and the border towns who desperately need our help, it’s about the millions of jobless Americans. This election is about the people being crushed by Obamacare, and it’s about defeating ISIS and appointing Supreme Court Justices who will defend our Constitution.
This election is also about the African-American and Hispanic communities whose communities have been plunged into crime, poverty and failing schools by the policies of Hillary Clinton. They’ve robbed these citizens of their future, and I will give them their hope, jobs and opportunities back. I will deliver.
This election is about every man, woman and child in our country who deserves to live in safety, prosperity and peace.
We will rise above the lies, the smears, and the ludicrous slanders from ludicrous reporters.
We will vote for the country we want.
We will vote for the future we want.
We will vote for the politics we want.
We will vote to put this corrupt government cartel out of business. We will remove from our politics the special interests who have betrayed our workers, our borders, our freedoms, and our sovereign rights as a nation. We will end the politics of profit, we will end the rule of special interests, we will put a stop to the raiding of our country – and the disenfranchisement of our people.
Our Independence Day is at hand, and it arrives, finally, on November 8th. Join me in taking back our country, and creating a bright and glorious new dawn for our people.
~ Donald Trump (https://www.donaldjtrump.com/press-releases/remarks-on-the-clinton-campaign-of-destruction)
If you feel that a career politician who has become rich from so called 'public service' is likely to keep their promises 'this time' despite the countless empty and broken promises of their past. And that it's acceptable for a politician to justify their many mistakes, lies and let-downs buy merely laughing them off as "miss-steps" "brain freezes" or "miss-speaks"; vote for her.
But if you think that it is time to wrestle the reigns of power away from the people who have lead America into the mess in which it now finds itself and to give a chance to a non-politician, a proven employment creator with a solid record of business success, and who has brought up a beautiful family who love and respect them, a winner in every sense of the word and someone who obviously loves their country; vote for him.
http://bastionofliberty.blogspot.com/2016/10/election-2016-in-nutshell.html
milwaukeeshaker
10-22-2016, 09:15
What other kind do they make?
They still make regular cab trucks?
Great-Kazoo
10-22-2016, 09:56
What other kind do they make?
Extended, quad, super, 1/2, 3 door and the original fold the driver & passenger seats to get in back. Then there's the pigment deficient, hillbilly seating. That's a single cab with old couch, or 2 milk crates and 2x6 across in the bed
milwaukeeshaker
10-22-2016, 10:59
Just being sarcastic. I always prefer regular cabs and will not buy anything else. If I want a people hauler I would get an Expedition.
Eric Trump crushes Stephanopoulos
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4zyu2iBd8Rk
Bailey Guns
10-24-2016, 06:48
I bought into the "polls are wrong" argument last time. Not doing it again. I'll believe the poll that matters on election day. I hope I'm wrong...but at this point I think Trump is gonna lose big.
If Donald was as articulate as Eric, this thing would've been wrapped up a long time ago.
GilpinGuy
10-24-2016, 14:22
I bought into the "polls are wrong" argument last time. Not doing it again. I'll believe the poll that matters on election day. I hope I'm wrong...but at this point I think Trump is gonna lose big.
If Donald was as articulate as Eric, this thing would've been wrapped up a long time ago.
Me too. After 2012 I stopped listening to all the talking heads and their opinions. Nov 8 can't come fast enough.
kidicarus13
10-24-2016, 15:27
Nov 8 can't come fast enough.
I was thinking the exact opposite.
The most I can hope for is that the hildabeast doesn't have D majorities in congress, or we are really screwed. Unfortunately, I can see that happening; what a jacked-up election.
Cold Anger (https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2016/10/24/cold-anger-the-corporate-u-s-media-has-weaponized-against-us/#more-123580)
Great-Kazoo
10-24-2016, 22:02
Lest hope i'm not the only Howard Beale voting this election.
jhood001
10-24-2016, 22:12
I bought into the "polls are wrong" argument last time. Not doing it again. I'll believe the poll that matters on election day. I hope I'm wrong...but at this point I think Trump is gonna lose big.
If Donald was as articulate as Eric, this thing would've been wrapped up a long time ago.
Most polls are propaganda. Their aim is to either drive people out to vote or keep them home under the belief that it is over.
It ain't over until it is over, but I believe Trump will lose by 6-8 points.
GilpinGuy
10-24-2016, 22:28
Most polls are propaganda. Their aim is to either drive people out to vote or keep them home under the belief that it is over.
It ain't over until it is over, but I believe Trump will lose by 6-8 points.
I agree, but really hope I'm wrong. Nothing you hear is the truth, so it's hard to tell what the F is really going on.
Lest hope i'm not the only Howard Beale voting this election.
See my avatar. I'm mad as hell, and I'm not going to take this anymore!
The only time I have ever agreed with Michael Moore.
NSFW (language, G-D, F)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pADHLsECWxY
Bernie Supporters Should Vote Trump Because Hillary Will Reinforce Dynastic Globalism (http://thefederalist.com/2016/10/24/bernie-supporters-vote-trump-hillary-will-reinforce-dynastic-globalism/)
http://thefederalist.com/2016/10/24/bernie-supporters-vote-trump-hillary-will-reinforce-dynastic-globalism/
Michael Moore comments were surprisingly moving.
Michael Moore comments were surprisingly moving.
Yah, I suppose.
The problem is that those people formerly employed by Ford et al, aren't entitled to be in the middle class, we have to earn it every day and they quit earning it when the union rules and protections allowed them to slack off and still receive raises and bonuses. People forget that the corporation's first responsibility is to the stockholders, not the workers, and when the workers price themselves out of the market the company will move its operations to a more suitable financial climate.
The really sad thing is that a bunch of Mexicans will do the same job and probably do it better than the supposedly superior Americans. These moves are the results of Americans becoming too comfortable and complacent, we see this complacency everywhere. I'm guilty too which is why I've changed the way I that I approach and perform my job, it sucks, it eats up my free time for no immediate monetary benefit but I am once again proving to my employer that I'm willing to do what they need when they need it. I've rested on my laurels long enough, time to get back at it.
Yah, I suppose.
The problem is that those people formerly employed by Ford et al, aren't entitled to be in the middle class, we have to earn it every day and they quit earning it when the union rules and protections allowed them to slack off and still receive raises and bonuses. People forget that the corporation's first responsibility is to the stockholders, not the workers, and when the workers price themselves out of the market the company will move its operations to a more suitable financial climate.
The really sad thing is that a bunch of Mexicans will do the same job and probably do it better than the supposedly superior Americans. These moves are the results of Americans becoming too comfortable and complacent, we see this complacency everywhere. I'm guilty too which is why I've changed the way I that I approach and perform my job, it sucks, it eats up my free time for no immediate monetary benefit but I am once again proving to my employer that I'm willing to do what they need when they need it. I've rested on my laurels long enough, time to get back at it.
Time to lean is time to clean. Better get back to work chump!
Kidding of course. You've done a good job highlighting the way that Trump traps people into supporting him. It's funny because I've been pointing this out this whole election, and nearly fell into the trap myself.
While listening to the Michael Moore speech, I was focusing on Trump standing up to auto executives and telling them how he'll tariff their vehicles if they move factories out of the US. On the surface, that sounds very pro American, but of course there is much more to the story. I gave no thought to the fact that auto employees are heavily unionized and how those same companies spent decades putting out mediocre products. Trump gets his popularity by saying exactly what people want to hear, and not much more. His whole campaign is all surface with little depth. If someone created a bot to pull one liners from what people on this site alone have said, and gave them to a public figure to spout out in measured intervals, you'd have the Trump run for presidency. We can see this in his most recent display of saying that the election is rigged.
So, Robert, good job keeping me in line and reminding me that this wasn't as compelling as I had thought.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9FgixfWEUZE
Great-Kazoo
10-25-2016, 10:14
We can see this in his most recent display of saying that the election is rigged.
He's correct. It's been rigged for years since HRC stepped aside for Obama. Where (tin foil time) Obama's team said step aside and after my term[s] i will support your run for office. Combined with the facts of the DNC screwing Sanders from day 1. Should be enough for even the simplest of thinkers to see it's true.Factor in the medias complicity and one knows how bad the system is.
Time to lean is time to clean. Better get back to work chump!
Yes sir!! :):)
Kidding of course. You've done a good job highlighting the way that Trump traps people into supporting him. It's funny because I've been pointing this out this whole election, and nearly fell into the trap myself.
While listening to the Michael Moore speech, I was focusing on Trump standing up to auto executives and telling them how he'll tariff their vehicles if they move factories out of the US. On the surface, that sounds very pro American, but of course there is much more to the story. I gave no thought to the fact that auto employees are heavily unionized and how those same companies spent decades putting out mediocre products. Trump gets his popularity by saying exactly what people want to hear, and not much more. His whole campaign is all surface with little depth. If someone created a bot to pull one liners from what people on this site alone have said, and gave them to a public figure to spout out in measured intervals, you'd have the Trump run for presidency. We can see this in his most recent display of saying that the election is rigged.
So, Robert, good job keeping me in line and reminding me that this wasn't as compelling as I had thought.
Thank you for the kudos.
Your definition, which I highlighted, is exactly what Trump and his campaign is, just a reflection of the dumbing down of America.
If more Americans took an interest in politics the way many of us on this board do we might be voting for a Cruz/Paul/Fiorina ticket vs the communists.
I think that's more "politics" than it is "rigged. "
Trump is here because of politicians and the media.
Trump is here because of politicians and the media.
I disagree.
Trump is here because Americans value celebrity more than substance.
Trump is here because a real conservative can't possibly hope to compete with the free stuff liberal. We are screwed because most people value laziness and comfort over freedom because freedom requires effort and responsibility. Trump is still going to get my vote because his beliefs are marginally more similar to mine than Hillary's. Maybe he'll get trickle down economics going again.
I disagree.
Trump is here because Americans value celebrity more than substance.
And why do they value that? Politicians and the media.
I disagree.
Trump is here because Americans value celebrity more than substance.
I don't agree with that. I think people want the things Trump says, but he's not able to do anything beyond repeat what people say on Twitter. If there were a candidate that would call out liberals, and the "system," and was polished and professional than Eric Cartman, they'd have an easy time winning this election.
I'm sure there are politicians out there like, but none out there willing to speak up loud enough to get anyone's attention. Or if they do, and no one has heard of them, they get ignored due to being unfamiliar. I think the familiarity is important, but it doesn't necessarily need to be at the celebrity level.
And why do they value that? Politicians and the media.
Disagree again.
The root cause is because their parents failed to teach them the things that really matter and then the parents failed once again to drive the schools to reinforce the training the children received at home.
There is a book titled "Your Teacher Said What?", wherein the author had to undo on a daily basis what the school was teaching.
I don't agree with that. I think people want the things Trump says, but he's not able to do anything beyond repeat what people say on Twitter. If there were a candidate that would call out liberals, and the "system," and was polished and professional than Eric Cartman, they'd have an easy time winning this election.
I'm sure there are politicians out there like, but none out there willing to speak up loud enough to get anyone's attention. Or if they do, and no one has heard of them, they get ignored due to being unfamiliar. I think the familiarity is important, but it doesn't necessarily need to be at the celebrity level.
You might be right.
I may be too harsh in judging my fellow Americans because my expectations are too high. I expect people to research stuff like the guys and gal on this board do, that may be unrealistic because I do not have the distractions of raising children or television.
Martinjmpr
10-25-2016, 12:01
Trump gets his popularity by saying exactly what people want to hear, and not much more. His whole campaign is all surface with little depth. If someone created a bot to pull one liners from what people on this site alone have said, and gave them to a public figure to spout out in measured intervals, you'd have the Trump run for presidency.
[word] Yup, exactly. Trump is just mirroring what the most prominent conservatives have been saying for years, almost word for word.
I have no love for Trump, I think he's a fraud and a fake and I doubt he would really want to be president anyway since being Donald Trump is a WAY better gig than being president.
But I understand the appeal.
Conservatives and Republicans feel like the kid in Junior High who gets beat up and has his lunch money taken every day by the school bully and the school does nothing to stop it.
The major "opinion makers" in pop culture - the news media, the entertainment industry and academia - all take turns telling us daily how stupid Republicans and conservatives are. Every stand up comedian and comedy show makes fun of conservatives. Colleges and universities tell you that if you hold conservative values you are racist, homophobic, sick, evil, etc. Those are the school bullies and no matter how many conservative outlets there are on the news, internet, etc, there are ALWAYS more of them, and their voices are louder and more mainstream.
People are tired of it and so when they get a "bully" of their own, who stands up to the media, they naturally rally around him (even though he's said and done some pretty stupid things in the past) just because those people are tired of getting beaten up every day.
So while I don't share the enthusiasm for Trump, I get it.
Disagree again.
The root cause is because their parents failed to teach them the things that really matter and then the parents failed once again to drive the schools to reinforce the training the children received at home.
There is a book titled "Your Teacher Said What?", wherein the author had to undo on a daily basis what the school was teaching.
I think we're on the same page here. It's all pieces to the same puzzle. Parents let tv/internet take over which led to idolizing the things they see there and so on. It's all part of the problem.
[word] Yup, exactly. Trump is just mirroring what the most prominent conservatives have been saying for years, almost word for word.
I have no love for Trump, I think he's a fraud and a fake and I doubt he would really want to be president anyway since being Donald Trump is a WAY better gig than being president.
But I understand the appeal.
Conservatives and Republicans feel like the kid in Junior High who gets beat up and has his lunch money taken every day by the school bully and the school does nothing to stop it.
The major "opinion makers" in pop culture - the news media, the entertainment industry and academia - all take turns telling us daily how stupid Republicans and conservatives are. Every stand up comedian and comedy show makes fun of conservatives. Colleges and universities tell you that if you hold conservative values you are racist, homophobic, sick, evil, etc. Those are the school bullies and no matter how many conservative outlets there are on the news, internet, etc, there are ALWAYS more of them, and their voices are louder and more mainstream.
People are tired of it and so when they get a "bully" of their own, who stands up to the media, they naturally rally around him (even though he's said and done some pretty stupid things in the past) just because those people are tired of getting beaten up every day.
So while I don't share the enthusiasm for Trump, I get it.
Scott Adams agrees
http://blog.dilbert.com/post/152293480726/the-bully-party
So while I don't share the enthusiasm for Trump, I get it.
Yes, exactly this.
I think we're on the same page here. It's all pieces to the same puzzle. Parents let tv/internet take over which led to idolizing the things they see there and so on. It's all part of the problem.
We are.
Bailey Guns
10-25-2016, 19:01
I think Trump is the republican party-created Frankenstein. The people elected republicans on the promise of a more conservative government. The republicans elected failed to produce time after time after time. People got tired of it. The big "FU" to the republican party really started when they failed to go out and vote for Romney by the millions (though that was somewhat like cutting off your nose to spite your face). It's no secret conservatives are disgusted with the republican party. Trump capitalized on the sentiment and here we are.
I'm really not a fan. But I have to say I've noticed a big improvement in the content and delivery in his speeches from a few months ago and today. It's almost like he's turning into the standard politician. Yippee.
Aloha_Shooter
10-26-2016, 16:08
Bailey, I usually agree with you but I think Trump is instead the Republican Party's nightmare. He's an outsider who capitalized on Republicans fed up with establishment "strategy" and non-Republicans to take over the GOP nomination. He claimed he was bringing all these people to the Republican Party; how many will actually vote Republican in the General? People can look forward to more of it if they pass 107 and 108. I'm Unaffiliated myself but when I feel strongly about a desire to express an opinion on ______ Party's nomination, I register with that party.
I am a big fan of conservatives taking back the GOP but Trump is hardly an example of that. As you say, disgruntled conservatives probably fed the big "FU" to the party but I don't think they were a fundamental force behind it. I agree, the content of his speeches has improved this week -- I wish the speeches he and his son Eric gave this week had been done a month ago. I wish they'd been airing the anti-Hillary ads for the past month. I hope to God I'm slapping myself in 2 weeks thinking, "President-elect Trump? Really?"
Bailey Guns
10-26-2016, 17:21
Whether he's their creation or their nightmare...could be either one. But it seems to me it's their own fault for not doing what they were elected to do.
68Charger
10-26-2016, 21:01
Scott Adams agrees
http://blog.dilbert.com/post/152293480726/the-bully-party
wow, for a cartoonist, he really has a better grasp on reality than I ever thought:
Republicans are far more likely to unholster in an effort to protect their voting rights. Things will get wet fast.
kinda dark for what I thought of Dilbert
68Charger
10-26-2016, 21:02
Whether he's their creation or their nightmare...could be either one. But it seems to me it's their own fault for not doing what they were elected to do.
a nightmare IS your own creation...
Great-Kazoo
10-26-2016, 21:57
Whether he's their creation or their nightmare...could be either one. But it seems to me it's their own fault for not doing what they were elected to do.
End of thread. Been saying it since he announced his candidacy
a nightmare IS your own creation...
You never met my ex . She was a nightmare cloaked in 20 yr old hormonal stripper skin. To make it worse she wasn't even a stripper.
You never met my ex . She was a nightmare cloaked in 20 yr old hormonal stripper skin. To make it worse she wasn't even a stripper.
Her name isn't Kristi is it?
Great-Kazoo
10-27-2016, 01:53
Her name isn't Kristi is it?
M&M I was plain, she was peanut. Gave a new meaning to melt in your mouth ;)
Bailey Guns
10-27-2016, 06:59
I'm gonna get back on topic before this thread augers into the ground. :)
I read the "Dilbert" piece. He's right about the "liberals are bullies" part. But I'm curious if he just figured that out or if he just doesn't like Hillary's style of bullying/condoning bullying? Then again, I'm a cynical clinger.
Adams is a Berkely grad...so, yeah...I'm guessing he's been part of the problem for a long time and just doesn't like Hillary. Probably a disgruntled Bernie supporter.
Great-Kazoo
10-27-2016, 08:41
I'm gonna get back on topic before this thread augers into the ground. :)
I read the "Dilbert" piece. He's right about the "liberals are bullies" part. But I'm curious if he just figured that out or if he just doesn't like Hillary's style of bullying/condoning bullying? Then again, I'm a cynical clinger.
Adams is a Berkely grad...so, yeah...I'm guessing he's been part of the problem for a long time and just doesn't like Hillary. Probably a disgruntled Bernie supporter.
What ever his political leanings, Berkeley is a major indicator. The infighting on the left to see who's more PC is mind boggling. I'm waiting for the first (reported) case of a sjw having a coronary trying to show someone they are less racist, than their circle jerk of liberals
4 more years of this...
Students at the University of California, Berkeley held a day of protest on Friday to demand the creation of additional “safe spaces” for transgender and nonwhite students, during which a human chain was formed on a main campus artery to prevent white students from getting to class.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/oct/24/berkeley-protesters-form-human-chain-stop-white-st/
(http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/oct/24/berkeley-protesters-form-human-chain-stop-white-st/)
Zundfolge
10-27-2016, 09:50
Adams is a Berkely grad...
So is Michael Savage and Greg Gutfeld.
If you look at some of the most powerful voices on "the right", the vast majority of them are former libs. Andrew Breitbart, Bill Whittle, David Horowitz, Thomas Sowell, Evan Sayet, Andrew Klavan (another Berkeley student) and dozens more.
My hope is that Adams has "got woke" ... not holding my breath but its my hope.
Bailey Guns
10-27-2016, 18:23
I've read some more of his stuff. He's a self-described "social liberal". He also says he's pro-gun. He obviously has no clue of the monumental contradiction he states in describing why he's pro-gun. He's probably not a flaming, communist-type liberal, but he's too left-leaning for me to really trust anything he says. Just my opinion.
I am pro-gun.
Because … I might someday have a good reason to shoot someone who is bigger than me or armed. If your reason for supporting gun ownership involves loyalty to a document written hundreds of years ago by slave-owners with muskets, you probably have some explaining to do. Don’t include me in that camp. I support gun rights because I think there is a good chance I might someday need to shoot a human. Period. If the Constitution prohibited personal gun ownership, I would have to consider violating that document, for my own sense of safety.
His reasoning is at least more likely than fighting the government.
Great-Kazoo
10-27-2016, 19:52
His reasoning is at least more likely than fighting the government.
Or the editors
68Charger
10-27-2016, 20:32
So is Michael Savage and Greg Gutfeld.
If you look at some of the most powerful voices on "the right", the vast majority of them are former libs. Andrew Breitbart, Bill Whittle, David Horowitz, Thomas Sowell, Evan Sayet, Andrew Klavan (another Berkeley student) and dozens more.
My hope is that Adams has "got woke" ... not holding my breath but its my hope.
What he ^^^ said
More to the point, if somebody that is a self-proclaimed "social liberal" (whatever he thinks that means) can see Hillary for what she really is and thinks Trump (however ________ you think he is) is an obvious better choice.... then there's hope.
As long as enough dead people are kept from voting, or people from voting in multiple states, etc...
I'm registered to vote in Colorado, have my mail-in ballot, but all I need to register and vote here in TX (where I am at the moment) is a utility bill showing I own a home in TX (and I do)... I'm too honest to do it, but there is nothing in the way with the current legal parameters that prevents me from voting in both CO and TX (no DL required to vote, which I think is by DEM design)
What he ^^^ said
More to the point, if somebody that is a self-proclaimed "social liberal" (whatever he thinks that means) can see Hillary for what she really is and thinks Trump (however ________ you think he is) is an obvious better choice.... then there's hope.
As long as enough dead people are kept from voting, or people from voting in multiple states, etc...
I'm registered to vote in Colorado, have my mail-in ballot, but all I need to register and vote here in TX (where I am at the moment) is a utility bill showing I own a home in TX (and I do)... I'm too honest to do it, but there is nothing in the way with the current legal parameters that prevents me from voting in both CO and TX (no DL required to vote, which I think is by DEM design)
Except getting caught...
Zundfolge
10-28-2016, 11:07
but there is nothing in the way with the current legal parameters that prevents me from voting in both CO and TX
Except getting caught...
Well also having scruples, morals and ethics.
GilpinGuy
10-29-2016, 06:19
Basically:
If SCOTUS "interprets" the right to bear arms clearly only applies to the baring of grizzly bear arms, are you going to turn in your weapons and respect the system?
CT sheep lined up to register. A guy I kinda know in Australia said "The penalty for not complying is so severe....we really didn't have a choice."
I've wondered how an outright ban (on all or even some types) of firearms would work. It seems like Sheriffs would be tasked with collection. How would the Sheriffs like that shit?
CT sheep lined up to register. A guy I kinda know in Australia said "The penalty for not complying is so severe....we really didn't have a choice."
I've wondered how an outright ban (on all or even some types) of firearms would work. It seems like Sheriffs would be tasked with collection. How would the Sheriffs like that shit?
What kind of God-damn pussy is going to just roll over and give up their guns. Our firearms are the only thing standing between life and a mass grave.
I will die on my feet rather than kneel to the motherfucking government.
Bailey Guns
10-29-2016, 08:38
...double tap. For some reason my text screen shows up blank when trying to edit.
Bailey Guns
10-29-2016, 08:40
In some ways, his quote as to wanting a firearm even if prohibited "constitutionally" is encouraging. E.g. recognizing the need for self defense is a manifest right, not one we are "provided" with. The way he phrases it isn't great, but he's on the right track.
Basically:
If SCOTUS "interprets" the right to bear arms clearly only applies to the baring of grizzly bear arms, are you going to turn in your weapons and respect the system?
But that's not what he said and I don't think he's on the right track at all...with the exception of saying he'd want a gun for protection regardless of how the law sees that. This is what he said:
If your reason for supporting gun ownership involves loyalty to a document written hundreds of years ago by slave-owners with muskets, you probably have some explaining to do. Don’t include me in that camp.
This sentence tells me he pretty much has no grasp of the true meaning of the Constitution in general, or the Second Amendment specifically.
My interpretation of that is he believes the Constitution is outdated and flawed. "Slave-owners and muskets"? That's progressive code for "dead, rich white men wrote that" and "the framers couldn't possibly envisage modern guns like AR-15s"...the usual garbage that makes up the usual leftist argument that the Constitution being a living, breathing document. He didn't say anything about the SCOTUS.
A conservative, on the other hand, believes the Constitution says what it means. The Second Amendment allows us all to keep and bear arms, not because it was written by musket-owning slave-owners, but because they recognized that personal ownership of arms was of great value and a necessity to a truly free citizenry, for a variety of reasons...not the least of which was defense of self, home and property.
Where someone went to college is largely irrelevant.
Maybe. But I'd argue there are some generalities that can be inferred by looking at where some went to school...especially when they have a lifetime of writings to look at. If two people tell me they went to the state universities of Montana and Wyoming I'd say it would generally be pretty hard to determine any true political leanings. But if someone tells me they went to Berkeley I can practically guarantee that person is going to be left-leaning at a minimum, if not a full-blown communist...despite the fact some notable conservatives attended that school as well. Profiling can sometimes be pretty accurate.
Bailey Guns
10-29-2016, 08:43
What kind of God-damn pussy is going to just roll over and give up their guns. Our firearms are the only thing standing between life and a mass grave.
I will die on my feet rather than kneel to the motherfucking government.
Exactly. SCOTUS can ban them all they want.
Jeffrey Lebowski
10-29-2016, 10:21
I've wondered how an outright ban (on all or even some types) of firearms would work. It seems like Sheriffs would be tasked with collection. How would the Sheriffs like that shit?
Or National Guard? House to house urban searching in the middle east is quite dangerous, how well do you think anyone would want to do that at home?
Bailey Guns
10-29-2016, 10:42
^^ Especially considering the homes of many of those Guard members (or even law enforcement officers) would also be subject to search. Highly doubtful that would ever happen. There would definitely be a shooting war.
Just as an aside, the Trump campaign stop here in Golden has effectively shut down my shop for the day, since the 5 different law enforcement agencies aren't letting any traffic west of the Jeffco Fairgrounds.
Great-Kazoo
10-29-2016, 14:15
Or National Guard? House to house urban searching in the middle east is quite dangerous, how well do you think anyone would want to do that at home?
There seemed to be no issue at all in Boston after the marathon bombing. Hell people rolled over to accommodate the .mil presence
milwaukeeshaker
10-29-2016, 15:55
Scary wasn't it That is a live example of what would happen. Sheeple would be in the majority. After a few "redneck gunlovers" die in the shootouts, the rest of bad talkers will roll over pretty quickly, and the police and military would be just "doing their job" and "following orders" Just like the german army did at Aushwitz.
QUOTE=Great-Kazoo;2024969]There seemed to be no issue at all in Boston after the marathon bombing. Hell people rolled over to accommodate the .mil presence[/QUOTE]
There would be no need to go house to house, or use the National Guard or LEO.
The government can easily control the power grid, water, gas, the financial centers, food supply, air travel, public transportation.
Cut off these things to everyone that doesn't step forward and voluntarily turn in their firearms, ammunition, armor, reloading, and tactical equipment.
Make it a crime to transfer or posess any of these things and create a national tip line. Your neighbors will turn dou in for a Visa card. The powers that be will simply flip the switch and you will lose everything.
Active violence will be crushed by the following.
1. Individual to squad sized resistance elements will be handled by teams of paid mercenaries using ambushes.
2. Platoon sized elements of fighters will be taken out by drone strike.
3. Company sized element of active violent resistors will be met with combined air and ground attacks or raids.
4. Pockets of active resistance in large cities or regions larger than states will be threatened with force up to and including nuclear strikes. Good luck seceding from the union Texas or Utah.
Velocitas, Opprimere,
Violentia Operandi
Jeffrey Lebowski
10-29-2016, 17:09
There would be no need to go house to house, or use the National Guard or LEO.
The government can easily control the power grid, water, gas, the financial centers, food supply, air travel, public transportation.
Cut off these things to everyone that doesn't step forward and voluntarily turn in their firearms, ammunition, armor, reloading, and tactical equipment.
They can't even keep the internet online if / when they need to do so.
Make it a crime to transfer or posess any of these things and create a national tip line. Your neighbors will turn dou in for a Visa card. The powers that be will simply flip the switch and you will lose everything.
Do it that way and everyone will be turning in everyone for a freebie. Hell, I'll turn in everyone I know without a whisper of truth. Big data, yeah, but good luck sifting through all that. At the end, you still need people to do the job.
Active violence will be crushed by the following.
1. Individual to squad sized resistance elements will be handled by teams of paid mercenaries using ambushes.
2. Platoon sized elements of fighters will be taken out by drone strike.
3. Company sized element of active violent resistors will be met with combined air and ground attacks or raids.
4. Pockets of active resistance in large cities or regions larger than states will be threatened with force up to and including nuclear strikes. Good luck seceding from the union Texas or Utah.
So some people will be deemed OK?
Edit: I'm not saying you're wrong. I'm saying you're likely right.
I just think it'll be a hell of a job and God have mercy on whoever is told to undertake it. These same folks who can't (or won't) put down an Occupy or BLM "event" are going to systematically disarm the masses? All it'll take is those few pockets of resistance to pop up and you better believe this country changes forever.
Great-Kazoo
10-29-2016, 17:52
Easiest way to avoid any form of confiscation.. Publicly identify as a gender confused person. Between the civil rights implications and ACLU waffling whether to take the case. The .gov would be gridlocked.
Even better, barricade inside buildings marked as gender neutral restrooms .
Those pc snowflakes would have an aneurysm.
Jeffrey Lebowski
10-29-2016, 19:06
Haha, yeah.
Easiest way to avoid any form of confiscation.. Publicly identify as a Clinton.
And that's not bad either.
JohnnyDrama
11-05-2016, 10:08
C'mon man!
"Within one generation - or two at most, the indoctrination system will make the successors terrified of these weapons."
Foxtrot
"He alone, who owns the youth, gains the future."
Adolf Hitler
Teach the youth. If you can't pull them out of school altogether, at least teach them history, guns, and liberty.
68Charger
11-05-2016, 19:50
I do like the style of the Canadians when faced with registration....
Some registered ALL guns... nail guns, toy guns, glue guns... did everything to overwhelm the system.
Where is their registration now?
Great-Kazoo
11-06-2016, 19:52
No, the election is not rigged !
http://dailycaller.com/2016/11/06/exclusive-virginia-gov-pardons-60000-felons-enough-to-swing-election/
Zundfolge
11-06-2016, 21:25
I remember a story about allowing felons to vote somewhere (maybe VA?) that aired several months ago and IIRC the plan was dropped because too many of the felons said they were going to vote for Trump.
Would be hilarious if the bulk of this 60,000 felons voted to put Trump across the finish line.
Today is the big day. Will Trump carry the vote or will the country vote for 4 more years of failure and the ever-shrinking economy.l
The votes are in for Dixville Notch, NH.
4 votes for HRC
2 votes for Trump
1 for Gary Johnson
1 write-in for Mitt Romney
I sure hope that the outcome isn't handed to HRC due to 3rd party and protest votes that aren't productive but make people feel good emotionally for a few hours.
Idiots get the government they deserve.
If you like the status quo vote HRC.
If you want the opportunity for a change vote Trump.
If you think feelings trump behavior vote (L)oser parties.
Zundfolge
11-08-2016, 10:59
Idiots get the government they deserve.
Unfortunately, non-idiots surrounded by idiots get the government that the idiots deserve.
Unfortunately, non-idiots surrounded by idiots get the government that the idiots deserve.
Indeed sir. [Beer]
On the topic of gun bans/confiscation/buyback/etc... Australia didn't work- they only had about 30% turn in (there are still tons of guns in Aussieland), and the bad guys certainly didn't. It won't work here, even if they effectively outlaw the 2nd Amendment, which would be impossible without a ratifying vote. Ban? The most we'll see is another Bill Clinton-esque AWB, which if HRC is elected, and the R's lose the down ballot, count on it, but they'll more than likely grandfather in what's already out there, making it as useless as the magazine ban here in CO. Voluntary buy-back? Some will, most won't. Turn in your guns? Yeah right, too many would say "hell no!" Who can enforce that? Registration? Again, if Hillary and congress are elected, count on something like it coming down the pipe. But again, relies too much on voluntary compliance, like so many here, most won't. The only option is to comb through all the 4473's sitting with the ATF and local gun stores- it'll literally take a decade to complete.
Confiscation? Never going to happen. No life-respecting LEO would ever go door to door. Same with military and federal LE. We all live in the communities we serve, we would effectively be putting a massive target on our backs, and that'll never go through- Much less any County Sheriff ordering his guys to do so, too many David Clarkes out there. The only viable option would be to shut down the gun industry in America, which would be very difficult, to halt the supply of new firearms into the market. They can try to make possession of an "assault weapon" a felony, but if too many stand up and say no, it'll fail.
JackRyan
11-08-2016, 14:34
You can. There very hard to get, unless you have $$$$$
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20161109/e3904e0b7b0c8d428a13876c2b6356f8.jpg
Velocitas, Opprimere,
Violentia Operandi
Aloha_Shooter
11-09-2016, 02:53
Leaving aside the fact the media (even Fox) uses the "new" colors of Red=Republican/Blue=Democrat (historically it was the other way around ... the media reversed the colors without any explanation or comment for the 1984 election), I prefer the county-by-county map displayed on Fox that showed just how widespread the support for Trump was and how concentrated Hillary's vote was.
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