No more front plate petition.

[Bitter Clinger]

Title says it all I signed, they are pointless and make custom/classics look like crap.

http://www.thepetitionsite.com/994/379/018/remove-front-licence-plate-law-in-colorado/

[SAnd]

Why are they pointless?

[jerrymrc]

Why are they pointless?

Because most of the cars today the front plate is an afterthought and once you drill the holes and bolt that ugly thing (plate bracket) on it takes a lot of work to remove. The front does not carry the tag as well. I hate them.

[roberth]

Front plate is pretty useless, state could save a ton of money not making them and cars would look better without them.

[rondog]

But then how would the OK and NE cops see us coming so they could get fired up to pull us dope-smuggling heathens over?

[StagLefty]

I think the plate # should be painted on the roof so the helicopters won't have to land so much [Sarcasm2]

[DavieD55]

Front plate is pretty useless, state could save a ton of money not making them and cars would look better without them.

But then the state won't have a reason to pull you over and harass you ask what you've been smoking followed by how much you had to drink today and what kind of prescriptions you on before extorting you for some revenue for not having a front license plate on your vehicle.

[speedysst]

This is what people worry about? Really? First world problems...sheesh.

[Gman]

How else can Denver get your face and license plate in the traffic camera picture? [Sarcasm2]

[Great-Kazoo]

But then how would the OK and NE cops see us coming so they could get fired up to pull us dope-smuggling heathens over?

The can't (anymore) court ruled having a CO plate will and can not be the sole reason for "traffic stop"

[StagLefty]

But then how would the OK and NE cops see us coming so they could get fired up to pull us dope-smuggling heathens over?

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[rondog]

The can't (anymore) court ruled having a CO plate will and can not be the sole reason for "traffic stop"

Yeah, suuuuure.....

[Great-Kazoo]

Yeah, suuuuure.....

HEY MAN................ the court says it's so.

Just like they ruled in favor of gun owners in D.C. That's been followed.

The government would never lie to us, would they. [ROFL3]

[BushMasterBoy]

Real Coloradoans have a 30 round P mag on the front bumper. In memoriam.

[Dave_L]

I have one on my truck but I don't on my other cars because it makes it look terrible. Ive been pulled over and I never complain because the law is the law.

[clodhopper]

How else can Denver get your face and license plate in the traffic camera picture? [Sarcasm2]

This was my first thought.

[BPTactical]

What is this "front plate" thingy y'all speak of?

[Monky]

I've refused to put them on several of the more exotic cars I get to play with... a $75 fine is paltry compared to drilling into the bumper of something so pretty...

[Zundfolge]

I moved here from Kansas (where there are no front plates). My Porsche 914 never wore a front plate and my wife's 1990 Nissan 240sx has never worn a front plate and we just bought our Honda Element in New Mexico (another no front plate state) so I've never put the front plate on it.

I'd rather it not be a legal requirement.

[sniper7]

I'd rather have zero plates!

[waxthis]

The can't (anymore) court ruled having a CO plate will and can not be the sole reason for "traffic stop"

"Uhm excuse me sir, but I wasn't sure if you were wearing a seat belt or not, sorry for the inconvenience. Oh wait....Is that Marijuana I smell."

[BladesNBarrels]

I was at a car show displaying Dodge Vipers in Breckenridge a few years ago.
They had no front plates and I asked one of the owners if he was required to have one.
He had a Colorado Statute and Regulation printed from somewhere that basically stated that if it required the car to be damaged (hole drilled) a plate was not required on the front.
But.........
There is always a "but"
He did display the plate in the front windshield.
I understand that does not always work.

[Zundfolge]

He had a Colorado Statute and Regulation printed from somewhere that basically stated that if it required the car to be damaged (hole drilled) a plate was not required on the front.
If you could find the specific statute I'd gladly print it out and keep a copy in all our cars that are sans front plate.

[BladesNBarrels]

If you could find the specific statute I'd gladly print it out and keep a copy in all our cars that are sans front plate.
I googled it and could not find it.
But, .... (there it is again)
The Viper owner said he had been stopped a couple of times over the years and showing the printed sheet worked every time.

[newracer]

That is because it doesn't exist. "Street Rods" only get one plate. "Street rod vehicle" means a vehicle manufactured in 1948 or earlier with a body design that has been modified for safe road use.


2-3-202. Number plates to be attached

(1) (a) The owner shall attach the number plates assigned to a self-propelled vehicle, other than a motorcycle, autocycle, or street rod vehicle, to the vehicle with one in the front and the other in the rear. The owner shall attach the number plate assigned to a motorcycle, autocycle, street rod vehicle, trailer, semitrailer, other vehicle drawn by a motor vehicle, or special mobile machinery to the rear of the vehicle. The owner shall display number plates during the current registration year, except as otherwise provided in this article.

(b) If the department issues a validating tab or sticker to a motor vehicle pursuant to section 42-3-201, the current month validating tab or sticker shall be displayed in the bottom left corner of the rear license plate. The current year validating tab or sticker shall be displayed in the bottom right corner of the rear license plate. The tabs or stickers shall be visible at all times.

(2) (a) Every number plate shall at all times be securely fastened to the vehicle to which it is assigned, so as to prevent the plate from swinging, and shall be horizontal at a height not less than twelve inches from the ground, measuring from the bottom of such plate, in a place and position to be clearly visible, and shall be maintained free from foreign materials and in a condition to be clearly legible.

(b) A person shall not operate a motor vehicle with an affixed device or a substance that causes all or a portion of a license plate to be unreadable by a system used to automatically identify a motor vehicle. Such a device includes, without limitation, a cover that distorts angular visibility; alters the color of the plate; or is smoked, tinted, scratched, or dirty so as to impair the legibility of the license plate.

(3) (a) A person who violates any provision of this section commits a class B traffic infraction.

(b) A person who violates paragraph (b) of subsection (2) of this section commits a class A traffic infraction and shall be punished by a fine of one hundred dollars.

(4) Notwithstanding subsections (1) to (3) of this section, the owner of a military vehicle may elect to not display the vehicle's assigned license plate if the license plate is physically in the military vehicle and is available for inspection to any peace officer who requests the plate.

[BushMasterBoy]

What is a military vehicle? Do they mean a "retired" military vehicle ? Do they mean like a CUCV? Stupid Chevy Colorado I have, had no provision for a front license plate. I had to fabricate a license plate holder. And why do I have to pay $50 extra for a DV tag? Is that for the prisoners that make the tags? The lawmakers are some sick bastards...

http://gazette.com/colorado-inmates-making-license-plates-since-1926/article/9731

[milwaukeeshaker]

You mean you don't like your paid yearly tax stamp? And to think some folks actually pay extra for their tax stamp. Barnum hit it right on the head.

I'd rather have zero plates!

[Fentonite]

What is a military vehicle? Do they mean a "retired" military vehicle ? Do they mean like a CUCV? Stupid Chevy Colorado I have, had no provision for a front license plate. I had to fabricate a license plate holder. And why do I have to pay $50 extra for a DV tag? Is that for the prisoners that make the tags? The lawmakers are some sick bastards...

http://gazette.com/colorado-inmates-making-license-plates-since-1926/article/9731

that exemption has always worked for my Pinzgauer, although I still display the rear plate. Copy of statute in glove box.

[Zundfolge]

The Viper owner said he had been stopped a couple of times over the years and showing the printed sheet worked every time.

All that proves is that most officers don't know the law ... I need to come up with official looking statutes for things I want to do [Muaha]

[davsel]

All that proves is that most officers don't know the law ... I need to come up with official looking statutes for things I want to do [Muaha]


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q0d-O2go9Po

[MrPrena]

Around 2007, I got a warning ticket for not having a front license plate. Dealership did not put a front plate bracket.

I don't like drilling a hole into the bumper, and had to buy these.

https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/51Ns3noRUiL.jpg

[BushMasterBoy]

Why # 2?

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[Squeeze]

Don't forget about photo radar. How would these municipalities make that money if the photo radar van can't get good front license plate photos (in case they don't get the rear one)?

[jerrymrc]

So far so good. Been over 2 years now. My front plate.[Flower] 67170

[Eggysrun]

I read the thread title and thought this was gonna be about armored plates lol

[OctopusHighball]

Was pulled over and ticketed for speeding by a motorcycle cop in evergreen, no front plate, not a peep from the officer about it. Guess it all just depends on the officer and the day

[brutal]

Front plate in CO has always been a grey area. I've run without one for 13 years.

I did get a ticket for parking in Denver without one. Not downtown mind you, but at St Joe's while working.

After that, I just popped it in the windshield while parking in Denver and never had another issue.

They really don't serve a purpose. Anything to keep our registration from going any more stupid than it already is.

[COcz]

I got hassled more for having the front plate in the windshield than not having one at all. I haven't had a front plate on the last 3 cars I've driven for maybe 10 years.

[Ridge]

13 years of driving, the only time I've been bugged about not having a front plate was from a Denver meter maid.

http://i.imgur.com/viAQeFrh.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/WoelGMah.jpg
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[SAnd]

Some laws are more equal than others. People would be freaking out here if we were openly talking about ignoring the National Firearms Act this way.

So much for the concept of being a Nation of Laws. Or State of Laws.

[Ridge]

Some laws are more equal than others. People would be freaking out here if we were openly talking about ignoring the National Firearms Act this way.

So much for the concept of being a Nation of Laws. Or State of Laws.

This is petitioning to change the law. Or would you rather we treat each law as word of God, like the mag cap ban?

[SAnd]

The original post was about changing the law. That is good and proper way of doing it. After seeing a few posts in support of the change I will support the change even though I don't see it needs changing.

There are a large number of posts that a talking about how they ignore the law. That is wrong.

[20X11]

The original post was about changing the law. That is good and proper way of doing it. After seeing a few posts in support of the change I will support the change even though I don't see it needs changing.

There are a large number of posts that a talking about how they ignore the law. That is wrong.
It is not a "Primary" motor vehicle offense. It is "ticketable" in conjunction with another offense. It has the same classification as the seatbelt "law". It becomes a personal choice at this point. More of a suggestion than a "law". Punishable by a minor fine, no points. So, I do not "ignore" the law, I make a conscious choice to pay their monetary penalty if they ask for it, the same way I choose not to wear seatbelts. Not ignoring, just making choices that are right for me. Gravity...its not just a good idea, it's the LAW. Front plates...it's the law, just NOT a good idea.

[Aloha_Shooter]

I was at a road rally a couple months ago when I saw another car with his Colorado plate printed on his color bumper cover. Been trying to find out more information on how you get approval for that kind of thing but I don't understand the need for the front plate. It's not exactly high on my list of priorities of things I'd like repealed in Colorado (or nationally) but the rationale for it seems specious -- especially since there are so many states that seem to be just fine without the front plates.

[BushMasterBoy]

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[GilpinGuy]

There are a large number of posts that a talking about how they ignore the law. That is wrong.

"Ignoring the Law" and "Wrong" are very different things.

[Zundfolge]

There are a large number of posts that a talking about how they ignore the law. That is wrong.

The law is an ass.

I guess we should still be British colonies since rebellion is "illegal".