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GilpinGuy
01-06-2017, 19:57
My 11 year old son is in 5th grade. After school today I asked him the standard stuff like "what did you learn in school today?" He goes through the list, then starts to tell me about a new book they are reading called "Lily and Dunkin" by Donna Gephart. He tells me it's about someone who's going into 8th grade who "is a boy, but is really a girl....." I stopped him and said "What?'" He went on to explain that he is transgender with bipolar depression. WTF?
I asked to see this book and he said the teacher is reading it in class. I downloaded the sample of the book to my Kindle and sure enough, within the first dozen pages or so, the character said something like "I'm a girl trapped in a boys body."
[facepalm]
Here I am with an 11 year old boy who I'm teaching to be a man. And this is what he gets in school. This all happened a few hours ago and I'm a little, I don't know, annoyed at this shit I guess. I have no fear that my son will suddenly morph into a transgender or anything, but jeeez, they're pushing this shit on 5th graders?
One thing that bugs me is that he's read a bunch of books in school. He always brings them home, reads every night and enjoys telling us about the stories. This story is being read by the teacher in the classroom and she has the only copy. Maybe my tinfoil hat is on, but something tells me this is by design so parents don't object when they see it. Most parents are completely disconnected from what their kids do or learn in school anyway so most probably have no idea.
I'm not really looking for advice here, just sort of ranting. I'll be explaining to my son what real men and women are and what our beliefs are. All I've said to him so far is "Look, boys are boys and girls are girls. Boys wearing girls clothes are still boys and are just pretending to be girls. I don't care what your teacher says, there is no such thing as a boy who's really a girl." This weekend we'll be having a more in depth talk after I read the rest of this book. If his teacher has a problem with that I tell him we can have a discussion.
bobbyfairbanks
01-06-2017, 19:59
I would not send my child back to school till some heads rolled. Higher a homeschooler. That teacher needs to get crushed for teaching that with parental consent
You'd probably be mortified at some of the other shit they're teaching him too. And it's just starting.
Great-Kazoo
01-06-2017, 20:15
Good, bad, indifferent it's a reality we deal with day in ,day out. How you choose to deal with it with your kids is up to you. If it were me i'd ask if the school was going to include books about male & female parenting.
I'd write a note that he is not to be in class during the reading of that book and he is to read a different book on his own. Even if that means writing more papers or whatever. I'd also talk with the principal on whether this book is authorized, if the principal even knows about it and what curriculum they are teaching with the reading of this book.
jhood001
01-06-2017, 20:34
Acceptance, diversity, etc. should be taught at home. Not at school.
With that said, I don't see how a book like that is going to impede your efforts of teaching your 11 year old to be a man.
A little boy in my daughter's class decided he wanted to be a girl in second grade. He's been a "girl" ever since, and they are all in the 4th grade now. A lot of parents were initially upset and talked to the teacher and principal. He still acts like the asshole little boy with shitty/no parents as he did before, only now he dresses like a girl and added an "a" to the end of his name. Everyone likes to talk tough online about what they would, or wouldn't do, but almost none of that matters. The school isn't going to tell them that they can't do that, and the parents have opinions on it long, long after any of the kids do. I think your explanation of a little boy "pretending" to be a girl about sums it up. Much longer of an opinionated explanation of why you do or don't agree with that is going to be lost on most K-12 kids anyway. There are plenty of other, more difficult, social obstacles that kids will have to navigate and overcome over the course of their schooling. To kids, it's just another weird kid at the school. I thought the Jehova's Witness kid growing up was a weirdo, and that's about as much as I thought about it. I was way too involved with myself to even talk to him about why he didn't celebrate his own birthday.
So, there are plenty of reasons to take your kids out of public school, but there is rarely one single issue that outweighs any other. You can ask that your kid can't be in class while they read the book, but big deal. The first thing they are going to do is ask their friends all about the book, then they'll get the little kid interpretation, which is probably even further away from whatever you're trying to instill in the kids. We just refer to that kid as a boy, because he is one. My daughter and her friends refer to him as "it," and he's even in her circle of friends. Like I said, just another weird kid at school. My opinion is that trying to insulate your kids from things like this is just a futile waste of your time, especially if there is a transgender kid in the school. Handling issues like this are the exact same as handling every other thing your kids will learn. I personally had a more difficult time trying to explain September 11th to my kids than the little boy who wants to be a girl.
More and more you are going to learn that public schools are not your friend. Between the various sex ed teachings, liberal indoctrinations, anti-gun teaching, pro- drug teaching...if you don't want your kid taught these philosophies then you need to look at home schooling or private schools.
This one is my personal favorite. The Gender Unicorn.
http://www.transstudent.org/gender
My boys and I had a hearty laugh about it and then went back to learning facts.
GG, in GC?! TG and BP are two and very different things. Stay the path above all else. Kids need role model.
We need a drank!! [Beer] M&T after 5:00. W&T after 7:00.
Then there is this that is making the rounds of the net:
I sexually Identify as an Attack Helicopter. Ever since I was a boy I dreamed of soaring over the oilfields dropping hot sticky loads on disgusting foreigners. People say to me that a person being a helicopter is Impossible and I’m ******* retarded but I don’t care, I’m beautiful. I’m having a plastic surgeon install rotary blades, 30 mm cannons and AMG-114 Hellfire missiles on my body. From now on I want you guys to call me “Apache” and respect my right to kill from above and kill needlessly. If you can’t accept me you’re a heliphobe and need to check your vehicle privilege. Thank you for being so understanding.
Water is wet, rocks are hard, boys are boys and girls are girls. Anyone who denies this, or wants to be something they cannot (i.e., wants to live a fantasy) is, literally, insane. (n. mental illness of such a severe nature that a person cannot distinguish fantasy from reality - http://dictionary.law.com/Default.aspx?selected=979)
That we as a society have decided to go down a road where we engage in approval of literal insanity is of itself despicable.
It doesn't matter if we as a society approve of insanity or not, it's still going to exist.
That we as a society have decided to go down a road where we engage in approval of literal insanity is of itself despicable.
"Approval" is an understatement. They're treated like freaking heroes and held up as role models.
It doesn't matter if we as a society approve of insanity or not, it's still going to exist.
It does matter. No one said insanity wouldn't exist if we didn't approve of it. I'm not arguing for some liberal fantasy where we outlaw something and it magically disappears.
It does matter. No one said insanity wouldn't exist if we didn't approve of it. I'm not arguing for some liberal fantasy where we outlaw something and it magically disappears.
I think this is a whole other topic of discussion (treating mental illness, and what is the threshold at which people are too mentally ill to be in society), on which we'd probably agree on some points, but probably is too early to derail this thread with.
With a 3 year old son, and a 1 year old daughter I dread the thought of sending them off to the Youthzen Kampen, err public school system.
That whole LGBTQZPN9O% thing just makes my head hurt.
I get it people of all ages are sexually attracted in all sorts of natural and unnatural ways. I just wish half of these individuals would start getting turned on by moving to Antartica.
I feel for folks born with two sets of mismatched genatalia, or none at all. And thats about it.
Velocitas, Opprimere,
Violentia Operandi
BushMasterBoy
01-06-2017, 23:53
They are pushing this through the military too. What is next? Left handed salutes due to dyslexia? I'm glad I'm not active duty or have children.
http://www.af.mil/News/ArticleDisplay/tabid/223/Article/973668/af-issues-implementation-guidance-for-transgender-airmen.aspx
GilpinGuy
01-07-2017, 00:37
GG, in GC?! TG and BP are two and very different things. Stay the path above all else. Kids need role model.
We need a drank!! [Beer] M&T after 5:00. W&T after 7:00.
I'll be in touch this week.
Things like this make me glad I don't have kids. Seems like a constant battle against the agenda to keep them from immediately turning into tree-hugging granola munchers.
If anyone here is still thinking about homeschooling you need to know the local laws so that you don't get a truancy visit from CPS. Here is an excellent resource. http://www.hslda.org/
God bless
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I've always been a dolphin, now my appearance matches my identity.
Except for a few very rare cases (chromosome abnormalities, mostly), folks either have indoor or outdoor plumbing. This is biology, not fantasy.
When you're an airplane, but identify as a tank...
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blacklabel
01-07-2017, 10:18
I'm not looking forward to dealing with this kind of junk as my son gets older. Fortunately he's got a pretty good head on his shoulders so far.
In the order of nature, not many things are capable of being trained. Water, for example, is capable of assuming only three different forms: vapor, ice, and liquid. Crystals have their shapes rigorously determined by the law of nature. In the animal kingdom, it is very dubious whether fleas can be trained, though elephants and dogs can. No one ever says to a little pig, "What kind of hog are you going to be when you grow up?" But one does ask a child, "What kind of man are you going to be?" Children are either trained by us toward a fixed goal and destiny, or trained in spite of us. The parents never have the alternative of deciding whether their child's mind will be full or empty. It cannot be kept empty; it will be filled with something. Passions, television, movies, streets, radio, comic books -- all of these contrive against a perpetual vacancy in the mind of the child. Like a little octopus's, his arms are reaching out either for food or poison. - The Wit & Wisdom of Bishop Fulton J. Sheen, edited by Bill Adler
The book described in the OP is simply poison. It's poison wrapped up in the sugarcoating of emotionalism, yes. But when the coating of the narrative is stripped away of its sweetness (a saccharine one at that), it's poison. It's poison written by adults to stultify the innocence-cum-wonder of a child in the educational buffet which school should be: discovering where one fits in, how to excel, how to listen, how to eat one's intelligence vegetables, to learn to drink milk before they settle into the meat, and how to appreciate desserts rather than gorge on simple sugar. As the Integrated Humanities Program at the University of Kansas motto stated: nascantur in admiratione (Let them be born in wonder). The book in the OP is a poisonous diet pill, taking the place of food and stripping away the natural desire for that which is filling and fulfilling. It's not education, but social education -- a socialist education.
And it's clever too, diabolically so. At a time when young boys and young girls are going through a range of changes, confused, curious, and mortified at their own bodies and those of their peers, it plants a seed which causes them to contemplate their own selves in the context of sex and gender and confusion at the changes. Even if these changes are explained, what on earth but solid, traditional training in roles can assist a young boy or girl for the switch from pre-pubescence to puberty?
At a time when reality is paramount to a successful transition into manhood, fantasy is unhelpful. Particularly fantasy which is becoming the façade of reality, aping reality, and yet is entirely unrealistic.
Going back to Abp. Sheen, no one asks the piglet what sort of horse it wants to be when it is older. No one plants a watermelon seed expecting a rose. Yet, somehow, we have moved as a society into a place where it is socially acceptable to ask a little boy if he wants to be a girl, or must accept it if he says, "I'm a girl in a boy's body". That's absurd as saying the watermelon in the produce section is a rose in a watermelon's rind. Try giving your wife basket of watermelons for an anniversary and let me know how that goes. This moving away from metaphysical realities, substance and accidents (separable and inseparable), is ridiculous and insane. If I dye my hair (what little remains), I'm still blond. If I put in colored contacts, I'm still blue eyed. If I get my entire body tattooed "tan", I'm still pale underneath. If I lop my genitals off, I'm still chromosomally a male. I will always be male because the accident of my sex is inseparable and rises from the consequence of matter -- in the case of my body, a matter formed and grown due to male chromosomes.
The poison pills the left would like us and ours to swallow won't magically turn a boy into a girl. It'll just kill his soul and mutilate his body.
This is a 180 from when I was in school just 15ish years ago. I remember a kid came to school in a dress and the staff sent him home. Of course many of the students were upset because "he isn't hurting anybody!" and other similar arguments. In the end, everyone got over it by the end of the day. I don't think it's unreasonable to have kids, especially kids, manifest in their assigned sex while in school. If you make it all the way through school and still feel differently, well now you're an adult and can make your own choices in life. Trying to simplify the lives of kids in school by setting expected standards with which to comply is just good parenting/role modeling.
hurley842002
01-07-2017, 13:50
Wow, and I remember having to get a permission slip signed just to learn about the male and female anatomy, my how the times have changed. I'm dreading having to send my two boys to school.
Wow, and I remember having to get a permission slip signed just to learn about the male and female anatomy, my how the times have changed. I'm dreading having to send my two boys to school.
You don't have to send them to public school.
Wow, and I remember having to get a permission slip signed just to learn about the male and female anatomy, my how the times have changed. I'm dreading having to send my two boys to school.
Who says you have to send two boys?
ClangClang
01-07-2017, 14:03
Honestly, I don't have a problem with it. There are always going to be people who aren't from your walk of life. Different color, different orientation, different plumbing, different mindset about the plumbing they have vs the plumbing they want, etc. Exposing your kids to these differences won't turn them gay. And everyone who is sitting in prison right now cause they thought it would be funny to bash a gay person got a lot of the same "indoctrination" at home that some people here are preaching now.
Just live and let live.
hurley842002
01-07-2017, 14:19
Honestly, I don't have a problem with it. There are always going to be people who aren't from your walk of life. Different color, different orientation, different plumbing, different mindset about the plumbing they have vs the plumbing they want, etc. Exposing your kids to these differences won't turn them gay. And everyone who is sitting in prison right now cause they thought it would be funny to bash a gay person got a lot of the same "indoctrination" at home that some people here are preaching now.
Just live and let live.
I guess I'm not so much against the topic at hand, but more so the "agenda" and or double standard being dished out in public schools, not to mention the seemingly "sneaky" tactic being used in the OP to expose the issue. The whole LGBTQ thing is a very real topic in todays world (ask any .gov employee about AA, and I don't mean alcoholic's anonymous), and I believe at a certain point, children need to learn about the real world, and the things or people they may run into. Now flip the script and insert any other important yet "taboo" (by today's standards, i.e. Freedom of religion, 2a rights, etc.) topic into the subject line, and watch the liberals throw a fit.
In other news...WTF?
http://www.pbs.org/newshour/rundown/california-inmate-gender-reassignment/
An inmate in California this week became the first person in the U.S. to receive state-funded sex reassignment surgery while incarcerated.
Shiloh Heavenly Quine, a transgender woman, was convicted of first-degree murder, kidnapping and robbery in 1981. In August 2015, the state of California said it would fund the surgery as a medically necessary treatment for Quine’s gender dysphoria.
Quine received the surgery at a San Francisco hospital on Thursday. Following her discharge from the hospital, she will be moved to a women’s prison, according to Reuters.
BushMasterBoy
01-07-2017, 14:53
More proof the present government is mentally ill.
buffalobo
01-07-2017, 16:48
I guess I'm not so much against the topic at hand, but more so the "agenda" and or double standard being dished out in public schools, not to mention the seemingly "sneaky" tactic being used in the OP to expose the issue. The whole LGBTQ thing is a very real topic in todays world (ask any .gov employee about AA, and I don't mean alcoholic's anonymous), and I believe at a certain point, children need to learn about the real world, and the things or people they may run into. Now flip the script and insert any other important yet "taboo" (by today's standards, i.e. Freedom of religion, 2a rights, etc.) topic into the subject line, and watch the liberals throw a fit.
Well said.
bellavite1
01-07-2017, 17:35
A little boy in my daughter's class decided he wanted to be a girl in second grade. He's been a "girl" ever since, and they are all in the 4th grade now. A lot of parents were initially upset and talked to the teacher and principal. He still acts like the asshole little boy with shitty/no parents as he did before, only now he dresses like a girl and added an "a" to the end of his name. Everyone likes to talk tough online about what they would, or wouldn't do, but almost none of that matters. The school isn't going to tell them that they can't do that, and the parents have opinions on it long, long after any of the kids do. I think your explanation of a little boy "pretending" to be a girl about sums it up. Much longer of an opinionated explanation of why you do or don't agree with that is going to be lost on most K-12 kids anyway. There are plenty of other, more difficult, social obstacles that kids will have to navigate and overcome over the course of their schooling. To kids, it's just another weird kid at the school. I thought the Jehova's Witness kid growing up was a weirdo, and that's about as much as I thought about it. I was way too involved with myself to even talk to him about why he didn't celebrate his own birthday.
So, there are plenty of reasons to take your kids out of public school, but there is rarely one single issue that outweighs any other. You can ask that your kid can't be in class while they read the book, but big deal. The first thing they are going to do is ask their friends all about the book, then they'll get the little kid interpretation, which is probably even further away from whatever you're trying to instill in the kids. We just refer to that kid as a boy, because he is one. My daughter and her friends refer to him as "it," and he's even in her circle of friends. Like I said, just another weird kid at school. My opinion is that trying to insulate your kids from things like this is just a futile waste of your time, especially if there is a transgender kid in the school. Handling issues like this are the exact same as handling every other thing your kids will learn. I personally had a more difficult time trying to explain September 11th to my kids than the little boy who wants to be a girl.
Well stated.
In other news...WTF?
http://www.pbs.org/newshour/rundown/california-inmate-gender-reassignment/
As a woman the fact that he will be transferred to a woman's prison scares the hell out of me.
GilpinGuy
01-07-2017, 18:00
More proof the present government is mentally ill.
Yes. And "public schools" are really "government schools".
For those suggesting home schooling, we are hoping to be in a position to do this after the move, hopefully before the fall school year begins.
And "public schools" are really "government schools".
...also known as social engineering facilities.
GilpinGuy
01-08-2017, 07:28
In yet other news.....man having a baby (https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/2560070/british-man-20-will-be-the-first-to-give-birth-to-a-baby-thanks-to-sperm-donor-he-found-on-facebook/)
So this woman is pretending to be a man but decides to get pregnant. All through the story she is referred to as "he, him, pregnant dad", etc. [fail]
KestrelBike
01-08-2017, 09:12
In other news...WTF?
http://www.pbs.org/newshour/rundown/california-inmate-gender-reassignment/
Meanwhile, American veterans who've suffered catastrophic reproductive-organ injuries can't even get IVF paid for unless the service member is still on active duty: http://www.dallasnews.com/business/health-care/2016/12/15/combat-veterans-genital-injuries-find-little-help-achieving-pregnancy-restoring-intimacy
In yet other news.....man having a baby (https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/2560070/british-man-20-will-be-the-first-to-give-birth-to-a-baby-thanks-to-sperm-donor-he-found-on-facebook/)
So this woman is pretending to be a man but decides to get pregnant. All through the story she is referred to as "he, him, pregnant dad", etc. [fail]
Yeah that story was great. About $80,000 the British taxpayers get to pay for people to get sex changes so they can feel fabulous (wait.. isn't the suicide-rate for post-opties through the roof?).
BPTactical
01-08-2017, 09:20
Just tell him there are some people in our society that are seriously fucked up in the head.
All of this big to do over less than .003% of our population that has a severe mental illness.
"Special Snowflakes"
Who fucking cares?
GilpinGuy
01-09-2017, 02:33
Soooo, I had the talk with Austin tonight and it went well.
Here, literally, were my talking points:
1. Boys are boys and girls are girls. This is obvious. Look down when you piss. Understand?
2. There is no such thing as "a girl trapped in a boys body". It's fiction, or fake, not real. The book you're reading is fiction, or fake - it's not real.
3. Wearing girls clothes and makeup when you are really a boy is just pretending to be a girl. He's a "fake" girl, regardless of how much he wants to be a real girl. Kind of like Halloween, but all the time. He's not a real girl just because he says so - he's pretending.
4. Pretending to be a girl when you are really a boy is NOT normal. In fact it is a sickness called "gender dysphoria" or "gender identity disorder". It's a sickness that should be treated by doctors.
5. BUTTreat all humans that you interact with with respect, unless they disrespect you first - don't take crap from people. This includes blind people, crippled people, black people, Irish people, gay people, deaf people, and yes, transgender people - anyone.
6. Do not make fun of, point at, beat up or bully anyone, period (unless they're beating on you - then whoop their friggin ass).
7. I want to hear all about what your teacher talks about regarding this story.
8. If you are asked a question about this stuff, answer honestly. And if your teacher has a problem with your answer tell me and have her call me or I'll call her.
9. Teachers are people just like you, me, your mom and the President. All people are wrong sometimes. If your teacher says that being transgender is "normal", she is wrong. Period.
10. Teachers are wrong about a lot of stuff - I had to learn this myself when I was young. Ask me about ANYTHING you hear in school and I'll give you my best answer.
The conversation went great and my boy was like, "Yeah, I know all of this" and there were lot's of giggles and stuff. Most was review anyway. Then he went outside and played Star Wars, battling villains, beating up the trees with his light saber. I think I'm good, but it's nerve wracking thinking that you have to compete with the State and reverse-educate with some stuff (trans-bs, global warming, guns, etc.). Many (most?) parents have no clue. They're kids are just drones getting programmed.
Sounds like you handled it expertly to me. I'm glad you posted your talking points, because I don't think I'd have explained it as well as you did I don't think there is anything in there that I disagree with. As parents, we are often relegated to fretting over things which our kids could care less about. That's pretty much our job. I think you handled this well. [golfclap].
Sounds good to go. Glad you got it handled in the interim.
Well done, Gilpin. Bookmarking for when my son is older.
Aloha_Shooter
01-09-2017, 14:59
Good talking points. I wish the schools would concentrate on why Johnny can't read, rite, or do 'rithmetic. The social indoctrination is just so ... Maoist ... in nature ...
Good job daddy. I am sure you are making a huge positive impact on your son.
GilpinGuy
02-27-2017, 00:41
We had 6 boys stays overnight last night for Austins's 12th birthday [panic]. We spent a few hours at Dave & Busters, had ice cream at Cold Stone then came home. The boys stayed up most of the night playing video games, laughing, arguing and fighting. Like normal boys.
One thing I picked up on was the boys kinda picking on Austin for having a girlfriend.
After all the boys left today I asked him, "So.....I heard something about girlfriend." He looks away, all embarrassed. I just say "Awesome man, good for you. You guys hang out at school and stuff?"
His face lightens up and he says, "Yeah we do. Her name is Margaret."
Happy dad. :)
Edit:
Since we had 6 boys and my daughter, we took 2 vehicles to Dave & Busters. On the way to Cold Stone I had 4 of the boys in my truck - the rest were in my wife's car, including Austin and my daughter.
The boy in my front seat blurts out, "Austin really likes you."
Me: Oh yeah? I like him too, he's a good kid.
Boy: Yeah, he says that you're really nice and his other dad isn't. (I'm Austin's step-dad, btw)
Me: Oh, ok. Wow, that's nice to hear, Austin is awesome!
Boy: Austin says that his other dad gives him stuff to try to buy his love...but it doesn't work that way.
Me: No, it doesn't (I'm freaking blown away right now).
Boy: How long until we get to Cold Stone?
Firehaus
02-27-2017, 09:33
Congrats, thats an awesome feeling for a step parent!
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nogaroheli
02-27-2017, 12:50
Nicely done!
FromMyColdDeadHand
02-27-2017, 14:27
We had 6 boys stays overnight last night for Austins's 12th birthday [panic]. We spent a few hours at Dave & Busters, had ice cream at Cold Stone then came home. The boys stayed up most of the night playing video games, laughing, arguing and fighting. Like normal boys.
One thing I picked up on was the boys kinda picking on Austin for having a girlfriend.
After all the boys left today I asked him, "So.....I heard something about girlfriend." He looks away, all embarrassed. I just say "Awesome man, good for you. You guys hang out at school and stuff?"
His face lightens up and he says, "Yeah we do. Her name is Margaret."
Happy dad. :)
Edit:
Since we had 6 boys and my daughter, we took 2 vehicles to Dave & Busters. On the way to Cold Stone I had 4 of the boys in my truck - the rest were in my wife's car, including Austin and my daughter.
The boy in my front seat blurts out, "Austin really likes you."
Me: Oh yeah? I like him too, he's a good kid.
Boy: Yeah, he says that you're really nice and his other dad isn't. (I'm Austin's step-dad, btw)
Me: Oh, ok. Wow, that's nice to hear, Austin is awesome!
Boy: Austin says that his other dad gives him stuff to try to buy his love...but it doesn't work that way.
Me: No, it doesn't (I'm freaking blown away right now).
Boy: How long until we get to Cold Stone?
It is amazing how fast kids blurt stuff out, or forget you are even in the car.
GilpinGuy, good points. I am right there with you, but I have added a few when I talk to my boys.
11. Even when your teacher is wrong, you have to respect their position of authority.
12. You never have to agree with a teacher that is wrong.
13. Never give in to what you do not believe.
14. If you do all of that, and you need my help, please ask and I will offer your teacher my opinion.
My boys are in private school and while better than public, do not for a second think private school will solve all of the problems. Police were called to both my 7th graders and 9th graders schools in the past month to deal with criminal issues with students on campus. There have been other issues too, that I do not wish to describe, but which are troubling to say the least. Involvement is important. My wife and I have both been to the school literally to sit in class and observe. Most of our issues have been resolved, but not without effort.
GilpinGuy
02-27-2017, 21:39
GilpinGuy, good points. I am right there with you, but I have added a few when I talk to my boys.
11. Even when your teacher is wrong, you have to respect their position of authority.
12. You never have to agree with a teacher that is wrong.
13. Never give in to what you do not believe.
14. If you do all of that, and you need my help, please ask and I will offer your teacher my opinion.
My boys are in private school and while better than public, do not for a second think private school will solve all of the problems. Police were called to both my 7th graders and 9th graders schools in the past month to deal with criminal issues with students on campus. There have been other issues too, that I do not wish to describe, but which are troubling to say the least. Involvement is important. My wife and I have both been to the school literally to sit in class and observe. Most of our issues have been resolved, but not without effort.
[Alrigh] Good stuff!
Lots of good stuff in this thread.
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