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I'm looking at deleting and tuning my 2012 6.7 cummins. I've been talking with Travis Hammonds or BH diesel in the springs. Has anyone used him before for a delete or EFI live tune? Or any other recommendations?
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I've known Clint at ATS for a million years, he's good people. Dunno how much he does with the Cummins, though.
I've known Clint at ATS for a million years, he's good people. Dunno how much he does with the Cummins, though.
Do you have his contact info?
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68Charger
01-09-2017, 14:16
Gunner,
He tuned my 2007 6.7L with EFI live... and he put some after market exhaust pipe in the bed so I could put something on when the stock stuff fell off. (he would have installed it for a fee, but I like to wrench)
Truck runs great (it was choking bad on the stock DPF after 160k miles before) came with the dial settings 1-5... 1 is stock, 2 is just a bit more power, 3 is towing, 4 has more timing and fuel (you can hear a difference in the idle), and 5 is even more.
I've had some codes come up- but does not appear to be the fault of the tune- just the nature of turning up power... ask about fuel relief valve shim mod... that and an upgraded fuel system are in my future- and new injectors before 200k.
He came highly recommended from the CDC (Colorado Diesel Crew) group on Facebook... and did not disappoint.
I'm looking at deleting and tuning my 2012 6.7 cummins. I've been talking with Travis Hammonds or BH diesel in the springs. Has anyone used him before for a delete or EFI live tune? Or any other recommendations?
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Remember gunner.... once you start tuning, you start losing long term reliability. Make sure you read all sides of the coin before you decide the route you will go. Also, once you start modding, you will catch the mod bug and want to keep doing more and more!
Gunner,
He tuned my 2007 6.7L with EFI live... and he put some after market exhaust pipe in the bed so I could put something on when the stock stuff fell off. (he would have installed it for a fee, but I like to wrench)
Truck runs great (it was choking bad on the stock DPF after 160k miles before) came with the dial settings 1-5... 1 is stock, 2 is just a bit more power, 3 is towing, 4 has more timing and fuel (you can hear a difference in the idle), and 5 is even more.
I've had some codes come up- but does not appear to be the fault of the tune- just the nature of turning up power... ask about fuel relief valve shim mod... that and an upgraded fuel system are in my future- and new injectors before 200k.
He came highly recommended from the CDC (Colorado Diesel Crew) group on Facebook... and did not disappoint.
Awesome yeah I found him on Rocky Mountain diesel crew and colorado diesel crew. His price seems very reasonable I'm just worried about this emissions crap. But I have to be able to still put it all back on for emissions here in dougco
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Do you have his contact info?
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http://www.atsdiesel.com/ats2/
68Charger
01-09-2017, 15:21
Awesome yeah I found him on Rocky Mountain diesel crew and colorado diesel crew. His price seems very reasonable I'm just worried about this emissions crap. But I have to be able to still put it all back on for emissions here in dougco
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Start putting Kroil or PB blaster on all the fittings now... and every day until you're ready to take them off... some of the stainless pressure sensor lines would NOT come off for me...
Remember gunner.... once you start tuning, you start losing long term reliability. Make sure you read all sides of the coin before you decide the route you will go. Also, once you start modding, you will catch the mod bug and want to keep doing more and more!
This, too... the 2007 is my wife's truck... (mine's a '98 12V) when the codes first came up for low fuel pressure and rail relief valve activating she was driving it... she punched it when it was cold... I told her to ease into it until it warms up- and I can either ask Travis to turn the fuel down a little, or get fuel upgrades so the codes won't happen anymore... she was like "less power? no way!"
I really could care less about the tune I really just want the EGR and DPF delete. But I'll be throwing codes and issues if I do that with no tune
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F%UK ATS. They'll never see a dime of my money.
http://www.dieseltruckresource.com/forums/general-diesel-discussion-92/h-s-tossed-under-bus-ats-307958/
F%UK ATS. They'll never see a dime of my money.
http://www.dieseltruckresource.com/forums/general-diesel-discussion-92/h-s-tossed-under-bus-ats-307958/
Every post in that thread, with the exception of the very first one, is saying how that letter had nothing to do with ATS.
F%UK ATS. They'll never see a dime of my money.
http://www.dieseltruckresource.com/forums/general-diesel-discussion-92/h-s-tossed-under-bus-ats-307958/
Copy that! Worst customer service ever experienced. I've been playing with diesels for over 10yrs and I'd go with PPEI tuning or HPP tuning if all you want is egr and dpf delete. With that said, my '14 Cummins is stock but the +13 trucks run better stock with def. If I had a '12 or older it would be deleted and tuned probably with HPP.
do it yourself and save a crapton of money, I've done 4 of them it takes basic hand tools and a couple of hours tops, I run efi live from ppei and get it from rsd as they have the best customer service, if you have the auto get the trans tune above anything else you do, the 68rfe does a relearn process every time you tune be easy on it for 50-60 miles every time you flash the ecm, if you have a manual you'll be good I just recommend a clutch sooner than later, you will see why if you turn it up and hammer it they slip bad.if you do order from them put RSD in the coupon code box and you will save 5-10%, just get the delete pipe option and you can swap out the emission crap and plug everything back in under the truck and the hood when you have to test, they send you a stock file to reflash on the ecm if needed. you're lucky with yours being a 2012 mine is a 2014 and its a whole different monster and costs a bunch more money and time to delete.
http://www.rollinsmokediesel.com/pd-2010-2012-cummins-6-7-ppei-efi-autocal-performance-tuning-package-click-for-options.cfm
I'll second RSD.....James is good people!
Copy that! Worst customer service ever experienced. I've been playing with diesels for over 10yrs and I'd go with PPEI tuning or HPP tuning if all you want is egr and dpf delete. With that said, my '14 Cummins is stock but the +13 trucks run better stock with def. If I had a '12 or older it would be deleted and tuned probably with HPP.
Jonathan and kory from ppei and hpp both worked together on the latest tune revision for the efi live for the cummins and they knocked it out of the park, i've been running it since sept. totally trouble free.
since we've traded in the past, I have a downpipe/delete pipe you can have no charge from my 2012 mega it goes from turbo to the muffler you would just have to trim it a bit if you have a crew/reg cab its in great shape, downside is its in pueblo but its yours if you want it.
What about hardway performance EFI live tune?
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since we've traded in the past, I have a downpipe/delete pipe you can have no charge from my 2012 mega it goes from turbo to the muffler you would just have to trim it a bit if you have a crew/reg cab its in great shape, downside is its in pueblo but its yours if you want it.
That's awesome of you let me figure out what I'm doing. I wouldn't mind a visit back to PUEBLO I could use a burrito betty
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DangerLee_Industries
01-10-2017, 02:38
I had a real bad experience with ATS too. Spent 4Kish on a trans when I had my 2nd gen and had problems with it right away. It was like pulling teeth to get the issue resolved which it never fully was. They were cool answering questions and returning my calls before they took my cash then zero customer support after I drove away from their shop.
Buzz me tomorrow or come swing by and I can help you make a plan for you Cummins. Heck if we time it right I could use some free labor lifting my bed off so I can get a new Airdog II in.
Good advice on the DIY. I also used RSD and the EGR and full turbo back exhaust only took about 2-3 hours.
Im cool on the DIY I can figure it out with a few swear words. To go through RSD I'm looking at $1269 I have not checked shipping. If I do anything online it from them. More people have recommended them then I can count. However for $1250 Travis does the install of the pipes and an EFI Live tune.....
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I had a real bad experience with ATS too. Spent 4Kish on a trans when I had my 2nd gen and had problems with it right away. It was like pulling teeth to get the issue resolved which it never fully was. They were cool answering questions and returning my calls before they took my cash then zero customer support after I drove away from their shop.
Buzz me tomorrow or come swing by and I can help you make a plan for you Cummins. Heck if we time it right I could use some free labor lifting my bed off so I can get a new Airdog II in.
We have a job just north or you in Elbert in Elk horn ranch. It's about 20 minutes from your door step. I won't be there today but sometime this week I can try to swing by and help ya out
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Grant H.
01-10-2017, 08:55
Travis is good to go, he's got a great reputation in the Colorado Diesel Crew. As you're finding, he does well on pricing to. He does enough business that he's got great resale agreements with his vendors, which makes him very competitive.
James at RSD is also good to go. I've ordered lots from him.
I have my trusty old 24V Cummins 6-speed but last year we bought a 36' toy hauler that we carry my wife's car and my Harley in when we travel. My truck has pulled it across the country fine but with the second gen steering and being a SRW truck it gets kinda manhandled. I'm looking at buying a 2017 dually with the 6-speed but would obviously want to delete it. How complex is the process to put everything back on to get through the emissions process on the 6.7?
I have my trusty old 24V Cummins 6-speed but last year we bought a 36' toy hauler that we carry my wife's car and my Harley in when we travel. My truck has pulled it across the country fine but with the second gen steering and being a SRW truck it gets kinda manhandled. I'm looking at buying a 2017 dually with the 6-speed but would obviously want to delete it. How complex is the process to put everything back on to get through the emissions process on the 6.7?
the 13+ requires more work with the def and nearly double the plugs, you replace the exhaust parts, plug all the sensors back in underneath and under the hood theres around 17 under the truck and 4 or 5 under the hood iirc, refill the def tank as it has a short shelf life, I drained mine and flushed it with distilled water when i deleted, reflash with the stock tune and drive it for a few days to get the junk all responding again correctly go get the test and thats it. they have an oem style weatherproof plug kit for all the sensors under the truck that you unplug, these are a must incase you ever have to put it back to stock, or they will corrode under there and cost you a ton of money should you have to put that stuff back on and buy a new harness.
http://www.rollinsmokediesel.com/pd-2013-2016-cummins-6-7-hpp-exhaust-plug-kit.cfm (https://www.higher-power-performance.com/?product=2013-2015-exhaust-plug-kit)
nogaroheli
01-10-2017, 17:35
I'm just starting to look into deleting and tuning my 2015 Duramax and was looking at Travis' shop after hearing about him on Colorado Duramax Crew, I'm stoked to hear he has such a good reputation. I'll be checking in with him.
I have my trusty old 24V Cummins 6-speed but last year we bought a 36' toy hauler that we carry my wife's car and my Harley in when we travel. My truck has pulled it across the country fine but with the second gen steering and being a SRW truck it gets kinda manhandled. I'm looking at buying a 2017 dually with the 6-speed but would obviously want to delete it. How complex is the process to put everything back on to get through the emissions process on the 6.7?
I'm only looking at a DPF pipe delete maybe a Cat not a full delete since I'll need to put it all back for emissions in two years
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kidicarus13
01-11-2017, 10:11
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Great, all this talk of upgrades and today I realize my exhaust manifold is leaking. Funny noises and see soot around #1 port.
See horror stories of studs breaking off trying to just retorque them.
ATS hater's issues aside - BD or ATS 2 or 3 piece manifold (and why/why not)?
(Just a reminder, folks- it is against the Forum rules to advocate or suggest circumventing the law. That rule is not just for guns, but for any state or Federal law. We now return you to your regularly scheduled thread discussion on Diesel vehicles.)
BushMasterBoy
01-12-2017, 10:30
Basically the thread topic violates the Clean Air Act of 1990. Same as me hack sawing the barrel of my shotgun. But that is OK, it would ruin the value of my shotgun. If it was me, I would spend my money on studded snow tires and rims for a possible SHTF sitcon. REMEMBER THIS IS ONLY MY OPINION.
http://itepsrv1.itep.nau.edu/itep_course_downloads/~GeneralAQInfo/Pollutants_Sources_Controls/Mobile%20Sources/DontTamper_EmissionControls.pdf
Basically the thread topic violates the Clean Air Act of 1990. Same as me hack sawing the barrel of my shotgun. But that is OK, it would ruin the value of my shotgun. If it was me, I would spend my money on studded snow tires and rims for a possible SHTF sitcon. REMEMBER THIS IS ONLY MY OPINION.
http://itepsrv1.itep.nau.edu/itep_course_downloads/~GeneralAQInfo/Pollutants_Sources_Controls/Mobile%20Sources/DontTamper_EmissionControls.pdf
Well sawing your shotgun downs a felony so....
DPF kills the life of your vehicle along with EGR. My trucks for off road use only I'll add
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Oh look more government lies
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Grant H.
01-12-2017, 10:58
Well sawing your shotgun downs a felony so....
DPF kills the life of your vehicle along with EGR. My trucks for off road use only I'll add
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So it's okay to break the law if it makes your truck last longer? There's all kinds of way to apply that logic that wouldn't be tolerated on this board.
I wasn't going to say anything after my post got canned, but with the reasons given for my post getting canned, I'm going to agree with BushMasterBoy.
This whole thread is a discussion of breaking the law. It is illegal to tamper with the emissions equipment on a vehicle.
Oh well, the mods will decide what lives and dies...
So it's okay to break the law if it makes your truck last longer? There's all kinds of way to apply that logic that wouldn't be tolerated on this board.
I wasn't going to say anything after my post got canned, but with the reasons given for my post getting canned, I'm going to agree with BushMasterBoy.
This whole thread is a discussion of breaking the law. It is illegal to tamper with the emissions equipment on a vehicle.
Oh well, the mods will decide what lives and dies...
Well I appreciate the advise from other members and your advise and criticism as well! That's why it's a discussion forum. I expect this thread to be shut down anytime now
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I've thought about it a few times.
Can you confirm that these modifications will be done on off Highway four wheeling or track use race rigs? That was my initial assumption
I've thought about it a few times.
Can you confirm that these modifications will be done on off Highway four wheeling or track use race rigs? That was my initial assumption
May as well close her down since people's panties are all jumbled up
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