Split times- defense vs competition

[rustycrusty]

What do you guys think is an acceptable split time/pace (time between shots during doubles or hammers) in competition? (Let's say average distance of 5-7yd and guaranteeing alpha or 0 zone hits)

Is split time refinement a part of your defensive training?

I am ok with anything sub .30 from students working at 7yd on a full silhouette. Pleased at .25.

Competition- it's difficult for me to accurately make hits at our defined distance running faster than .16. I can manage .12 at contact distance, but can't seem to break past that. Anything past 10yd and I am sitting somewhere around .2

Where do you guys typically fall?


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[ray1970]

I'm more of a .5 second kind of a guy.
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[davsel]

My split times have gotten longer since I've gotten older - about 40 minutes between shots these days.
Though I've never had to shoot defensively or in competition - whatever that means.
And 5 yards is out of the question.

[Gravy Sandwich]

What do you guys think is an acceptable split time/pace (time between shots during doubles or hammers) in competition? (Let's say average distance of 5-7yd and guaranteeing alpha or 0 zone hits).

Sub .25 is good at these distances in IDPA, and sub .20 in USPSA when shooting major since A/C hits are a good balance of speed and accuracy with hit factor scoring. I often get trigger freeze when I consciously try for fast splits, so its normally better for me to let the acceptability of my sight picture dictate my splits. My splits to the body in FAST are generally .18 to .21, and my personal best with my SSP rig is a 4.50 seconds.

Is split time refinement a part of your defensive training?

Yes, I do Bill Drills out to 25 yards to work on my splits; sometimes shoot just three shots out of holster. Personally, my main goal is to get my transition times down to the same speed as my splits. I do a lot of Blake Drills to help with that.

I am ok with anything sub .30 from students working at 7yd on a full silhouette. Pleased at .25.
That sounds like a good benchmark, but I'd be more concerned that they are getting two distinct sight pictures and not "double tapping" with just one initial sight picture followed by an un-aimed follow up shot. New USPSA shooters often get caught up in the frenzy of speed shooting and resort to double tapping. Their cadence sounds different than a controlled pair, and accuracy suffers. Shooters who double tap often have disproportionately long transition times on closely spaced targets.

Competition- it's difficult for me to accurately make hits at our defined distance running faster than .16. I can manage .12 at contact distance, but can't seem to break past that. Anything past 10yd and I am sitting somewhere around .2

Nice. Those .12 to .16 splits are blazing fast, and only a select few local shooters will run those numbers with any regularity.

Where do you guys typically fall?
I've never seen anything below a .15 on my shot timer. I'm mostly in the .18 to .25 range on open targets at 7-10 yards. I'll accept C hits in USPSA, so those splits are faster than IDPA and defensive training where real and perceived penalties are harsher.




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[rustycrusty]

40min split time expressed as annual round count is quite a bit! ~13k rounds/year!?
Lots of trigger time.


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[thvigil11]

My split times have gotten longer since I've gotten older - about 40 minutes between shots these days.
Though I've never had to shoot defensively or in competition - whatever that means.
And 5 yards is out of the question.

Yeah, 5 yard wide target is way too small. Broad side of my barn is at least 15.