View Full Version : The Glock Fanboys at TFB get their hands on the new Gen 5
Zundfolge
08-25-2017, 15:05
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ypvDS18V5o
http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2017/08/25/gen5-glock-17-19/
I'll be honest, I haven't looked at a new Glock and thought "I should consider buying one of those" since the Gen 2 (hated the Gen 3 and yawned at the Gen 4) so I have to give Glock some credit.
Wonder if the Gen5 27 will be cool.
hollohas
08-25-2017, 16:06
TFB are serious Glock fanboys. They could hardly hide their excitement over the P320 problem.
Glock has a good thing going. Kinda like iphones. It doesn't matter how little the next gen differs, people will line up to buy it. That's seriously good for business.
I'm not a Glock guy but I understand how good they are. I get it. The trouble for a company with that sort of quality is that it's not good for repeat business. They have to do something to get people to buy again. But if they changed it too much, or even came out with a completely different model, then their happy customers would revolt. So minor changes are all they can do to generate new sales and that's great spot for a business to get it.
I wasn't even aware there was a new gen glock coming.
OtterbatHellcat
08-25-2017, 16:08
I wasn't either.
Great-Kazoo
08-25-2017, 16:18
Maybe a rumor they will soon offer a 9mm carbine [panic][ROFL2]
Yep supposedly different finish, no finger grips, flared magwell and something different with the slide serrations I cant remember the other stuff. I'll admit after owning countless flocks that I'm a fan, it does what it's meant to do when it's meant to do it and not any other time (not cracking on the p320 because even XD's warn of the potential of firing when dropped). I would love to get another gen1 19, didn't like the 2nd or 3rd but the 4th was a nice fit so I'm interested in seeing how the 5th is.
I want Glock Gen n+1
(Kinda reminds of iphone/IPad 1,2,3,4, ... n, n+1)
I really like my agency 19, I'm sure one day I'll buy a gen 5 and have it redone.
Liberty Firearms Institute is having a release party tomorrow from 9-4. Hands on, you can shoot one if you wish. There will be a selfie station if that's important to any of you.
Liberty Firearms Institute is having a release party tomorrow from 9-4. Hands on, you can shoot one if you wish. There will be a selfie station if that's important to any of you.
Is it just some sort of "show and tell" type thing or will they actually sell you one?
Great-Kazoo
08-25-2017, 19:47
Liberty Firearms Institute is having a release party tomorrow from 9-4. Hands on, you can shoot one if you wish. There will be a selfie station if that's important to any of you.
Guess I'll be there
Is it just some sort of "show and tell" type thing or will they actually sell you one?
Wonder if they will do blue lable on them?
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170826/fcaeae7db8295ec664c9dabf4fe94109.jpg
No mention purchase options.
Bailey Guns
08-25-2017, 20:07
It's about damn time Glock got rid of those horrible finger grooves on the grip. Worst idea ever. That's by far the most appealing feature of the new gun. Maybe I can retire one of my Gen 2s and get a new Glock now.
It's about damn time Glock got rid of those horrible finger grooves on the grip. Worst idea ever. That's by far the most appealing feature of the new gun. Maybe I can retire one of my Gen 2s and get a new Glock now.
Like.
hurley842002
08-25-2017, 20:09
I'd love a Gen5 G26.
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blacklabel
08-25-2017, 20:17
This is the first Glock that actually caught my interest. A 19 may be in my future.
It's about damn time Glock got rid of those horrible finger grooves on the grip. Worst idea ever. That's by far the most appealing feature of the new gun. Maybe I can retire one of my Gen 2s and get a new Glock now.
Yep, terrible idea, even if you happen to have the perfect size fingers. I've been sanding them off since 2000. People use it as a way to buy my used guns for less. I know that in private they love not having to remove them.
Oh boy! A real Glock just like the Glocks carried by the FBI. [Sarcasm2]
New & Improved! Now with even more Glockieness.
Bailey Guns
08-26-2017, 10:37
If it's "Perfection", why do they keep changing it?
If it's "Perfection", why do they keep changing it?
Maybe now it's Perfect?.....
wctriumph
08-26-2017, 12:34
It was the finger grooves that turned me off to the Glock, my hand just did not fit the grip. I have tried other polymer pistols and still don't own one. I have been wanting to try the M&P 2.0 and the Ruger American, now maybe I will be able to get along with a Glock.
Not_A_Llama
08-26-2017, 12:50
Just shot both.
Nice gun, shoots like a Glock.
The finish is beautiful and silly hard, but they gotta do something about it. It's just too damn slick.
If you haven't caught the gun press bukkake, I noticed:
Ambi slide release
Nice without finger grooves
G42 style safety plunger
2 pin design.. again... interestingly, saw some slide peening sorta developing on the range guns, 200 rounds in.
Streamlined slide at muzzle.. hopefully this doesn't lead to more NDs from the "Power Reholster" crowd.
On second thought, for those that've taken the ECQC course... the slide slickness could be nice. Just add a grip spider to the back.
I really like gen4. Having a large mag release got me.
I hope gen5 will make used gen4 market somewhat softer for me to pickup more glocks.
Not really a Glock fan. I have two. A gen 3 20 and gen 4 19. Can't say the finger grips ever bothered me. Nice to see them go away anyway. Will stay interested as long as the base grip angle is close to that of the 1911.
Finger grips on a 1911 bother the hell out of me. Anything with Hogue grips gets changed out immediately.
The ambi slide release is nice but what about am ambi mag release? Not getting caught up in the finish.
hurley842002
08-26-2017, 21:45
The ambi slide release is nice but what about am ambi mag release?
You can still switch it to Southpaw like on the Gen4.
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You can still switch it to Southpaw like on the Gen4.
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Looking for both L & R mag releases.
I think a true ambidextrous magazine release on the Glock would likely have necessitated a new magazine design. Putting out a new model that no longer took the standard magazine would have been a bad move.
hurley842002
08-27-2017, 07:59
I think a true ambidextrous magazine release on the Glock would likely have necessitated a new magazine design. Putting out a new model that no longer took the standard magazine would have been a bad move.
Yup
I'm not looking to buy one but I am curious if they had any to purchase or was it just a few demo guns?
Not_A_Llama
08-28-2017, 00:28
Centennial had at least a dozen of em for sale. $659. $710 OTD, as I recall. Too rich for my blood.
Jeffrey Lebowski
08-28-2017, 05:45
Always thought the finger grooves were fine too. [Dunno]
Yuck. Had a G19 for a bit and just couldn't get into it. I added some things to it, but it still didn't point or shoot very well for me at all. Pretty much the only thing I liked about it was the ease at which the whole thing came apart.
Centennial had at least a dozen of em for sale. $659. $710 OTD, as I recall. Too rich for my blood.Of course they did. I wish that place would dry up and die.
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Not_A_Llama
08-28-2017, 07:31
You have to feel a bit for Glock, in all this. If they make a change, people complain "what about perfection". If they don't make a change, "they're selling the same tupperware from the 80s".
Finger grips I think are the most visible example. I don't care about them, but lords almighty, did people complain vocally about them. They take them away, and people complain about the deletion. I think it was a sound business decision, because there were more and louder detractors of the grips than diehard fans.
Engineering on a legacy platform is a real bitch. You have to carefully balance interoperability constraints against the need to innovate, and to be able to do both is an expression of incredible talent.
They found a way to make the gun more accurate (4 inches at 25 yards -> 4 inches at 50 yards) and more reliable (11k rounds MRBF; the highest ever tested at the FBI). The cost was a reduction in parts compatibility. I should be as upset as anyone, with multiple copies of multiple generations, but I find myself frankly a little uncaring. Magazines are still interoperable. The only thing I switch out in my guns is sights and maaaybe a disconnector. Things don't generally break, so I'm not really cannibalizing guns at this point, either.
Side note: Standing in line at CGC, I find myself between alienated and homicidal. Who gives a shit how it feels in your hand; it's a gun, not your dick. No matter the platform, you need to run serious rounds through to know what the hell you're doing. Shoot 10k rounds through any gun, and you'll get decent. Key is to find a gun that will take 10k without being half clapped-out by that point.
hurley842002
08-28-2017, 09:14
You have to feel a bit for Glock, in all this. If they make a change, people complain "what about perfection". If they don't make a change, "they're selling the same tupperware from the 80s".
Finger grips I think are the most visible example. I don't care about them, but lords almighty, did people complain vocally about them. They take them away, and people complain about the deletion. I think it was a sound business decision, because there were more and louder detractors of the grips than diehard fans.
Engineering on a legacy platform is a real bitch. You have to carefully balance interoperability constraints against the need to innovate, and to be able to do both is an expression of incredible talent.
They found a way to make the gun more accurate (4 inches at 25 yards -> 4 inches at 50 yards) and more reliable (11k rounds MRBF; the highest ever tested at the FBI). The cost was a reduction in parts compatibility. I should be as upset as anyone, with multiple copies of multiple generations, but I find myself frankly a little uncaring. Magazines are still interoperable. The only thing I switch out in my guns is sights and maaaybe a disconnector. Things don't generally break, so I'm not really cannibalizing guns at this point, either.
Side note: Standing in line at CGC, I find myself between alienated and homicidal. Who gives a shit how it feels in your hand; it's a gun, not your dick. No matter the platform, you need to run serious rounds through to know what the hell you're doing. Shoot 10k rounds through any gun, and you'll get decent. Key is to find a gun that will take 10k without being half clapped-out by that point.
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Side note: Standing in line at CGC, I find myself between alienated and homicidal. Who gives a shit how it feels in your hand; it's a gun, not your dick. No matter the platform, you need to run serious rounds through to know what the hell you're doing. Shoot 10k rounds through any gun, and you'll get decent. Key is to find a gun that will take 10k without being half clapped-out by that point.
I've found that most quality guns will easily run 10k rounds through them. If the gun doesn't fit my hand to where the pistol moves when the trigger breaks, I won't be able to shoot it well from round 1 thru 10k. There are certain makes and models that don't end up on my short list for that reason. For example, the XDs and S&W Shield are too narrow and don't anchor well in my strong hand. The classic Walther PPS does.
I have a Gen 3 G19, and the slide rubs the web of my thumb. I found the Walther PPQ doesn't, is pretty much the same size as the G19, and has a great trigger. The only Glock that I've found works for me is the oddball G36. Not all anatomy comes out of a single template and platform does matter.
Great-Kazoo
08-28-2017, 21:04
For example, the XDs and S&W Shield are too narrow and don't anchor well in my strong hand. The classic Walther PPS does.
I road tested a 43 yesterday, wondering of the single stack, sub compact profile wouldn't work. 50 rds later oddly enough i'm sold on it. While the Shield between fit and upgrading to an Apex trigger does not.
OtterbatHellcat
08-28-2017, 21:33
Interesting to hear some folks don't like a Shield. Yeah it's thin and small, but it's made for conceal, and I have rather large hands and have no problem with that weapon.
I like my glocks and full frame M&P stuff, but I really do like my Shield for CC.
I own a shield and I felt that it was also too thin for my hands. I don't have big man bear paw hands or anything, but it still didn't feel right. About a week ago I bought a houge grip for it and feels much better. It is still uncomfortable to shoot a whole lot of rounds through, but I don't feel as if it's jumping around in my hands as I fire it anymore.
Feels like I just bought my g19 gen 4. Haven't shot it yet. Are they quickening the introduction of new versions? And as for the S&W Shield. The best tiny pistol I've ever owned. Bought it used from a member here. I like it enough that I'm on the look out for a M&P 2.0. I haven'y even considered an S&W semi auto since the 3rd gens. But they have really made a great product at a bargain price. Not to mention the made in USA part of the equation.
I road tested a 43 yesterday, wondering of the single stack, sub compact profile wouldn't work. 50 rds later oddly enough i'm sold on it. While the Shield between fit and upgrading to an Apex trigger does not.
Absolutely love the 43.
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