View Full Version : Gun prices dropped?
Martinjmpr
12-21-2017, 17:41
Does anyone else think gun prices have dropped drastically? I mean, I realize that during the Obama years we were in a more or less permanent "panic buying" situation but now it looks like the market is glutted and prices are dropping dramatically.
I'd thought about selling some guns this year to fund a few other projects (motorcycle, sidecar, etc) but now I'm thinking I'd do better to hang onto them for a while.
I guess it's good news for buyers. Seems to be a buyer's market out there. A person could establish a pretty decent collection of hardware with current prices being what they are.
Nope seem normal continue to post yours for sale at fair market price
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Dropped like a SIG 320 and shot a hole right in the market!
Martinjmpr
12-21-2017, 17:50
Nope seem normal continue to post yours for sale at fair market price
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Yeah, or if I'm bored with my shooting irons right now I may look to doing some trading.
Worked out well for me last time - I had a Ruger Bearcat .22 SA revolver, but I already had 2 .22 revolvers and wanted a semi-auto, so I traded straight across for a MK II or MK III (can't remember which - NOT a Mk IV) and it was a great trade.
wctriumph
12-21-2017, 17:53
Every where except Armslist, GunBroker and Gunsamerica.
Great-Kazoo
12-21-2017, 18:26
Yeah, or if I'm bored with my shooting irons right now I may look to doing some trading.
Worked out well for me last time - I had a Ruger Bearcat .22 SA revolver, but I already had 2 .22 revolvers and wanted a semi-auto, so I traded straight across for a MK II or MK III (can't remember which - NOT a Mk IV) and it was a great trade.
So is this like one of those Real Estate signs you see where it says PRE SALE - OPEN HOUSE.
Meaning you have some items for trade, hoping forum members will pm you to see what you have. Or just commenting on gun prices that have SW and Brownells selling AR's for $399.
How come optics prices never seem to go down?
Every where except Armslist, GunBroker and Gunsamerica.
Yep. Still see quite a few AR’s listed close to $2K. And Glocks at or above retail price.
If you are watching sales etc, many guns are coming down in price especially AR's. I've seen deals for green tip for like .22 a round. RIght now primary arms has a complete build kit except for lower receiver for $250 + a $50 stripped and it's a basic 1/7 twist AR for $350......
Vitesse304
12-21-2017, 20:35
Anything that could have been hoarded during the panic has come down in price. AR's, lowers, ammo, etc...
Example...Primary Arms was blowing out Magpul 30 rounders for $6.99 a mag...that's below dealer cost, but it's better to sell them, than to sit on them when you're literally sitting on a crap ton of them.
I think you're just seeing a combo of things affecting the marketplace.
Example...the new Glock Gen 5's coming out has slowed the sales of Gen 4's so dealers are dropping the prices on them.
Other things have risen in prices...
Example...AK47's have gone up in price and availability is dropping...want to pay less than $600 for a WASR? Good luck...
In the consumer marketplaces like armslist and gunbroker, you're still going to see $2K+ AR's since they were purchased before or during the panic and people can't correlate value vs the market...
Bailey Guns
12-21-2017, 20:44
Some are down (run of the mill ARs) and some aren't (older Smiths and Colts). 5 or 6 weeks ago I sold a mint S&W 4505 on GunBroker for $1100. I've never seen ARs as cheap as they are now.
I hope the Trump administration moves to loosen up the import restrictions on firearms and ammunition imposed by the last administration. I would like to see some more 7N6 at 13 cents per round in spam cans.
price low= time to buy
price too damn high= time to sell
It is a great time to by regular, not collectible guns. Though I suppose all our guns are collectible if have more than you need. I picked up one great deal, and have almost jumped on a couple others. The parts prices are great too. Some AR builders are getting out of the business because prices are so low. Perfect chance to buy close out parts. I think I have enough mags, but prices are good enough iId buy more if they weren't restricted. I'm telling everyone I know to build an AR if they ever even considered it. One can build a complete rifle for just a few bucks more than my first complete lower 20 years ago. ARs are what SKSs were in the 80's. Might as well stock up!
Martinjmpr
12-22-2017, 09:40
My particular weakness is old S&W revolvers (I don't really care too much for the modern ones.) I just love the fit and finish of the blued revolvers from the 1960's - 70's into the early 80's. I still have the Model 19 I bought when I was working security at the Johns Manville World HQ in 1983 - 85, it's a gorgeous gun.
If it were easier (and closer) to find places to shoot I'd probably shoot more. 5 years in Laramie really spoiled me - we had an awesome range on the edge of town, cost $50/year to join and it was literally 15 minutes from where I lived. Around here you either (a) pay through the nose or (b) drive for hours just to find a decent range.
kidicarus13
12-22-2017, 11:04
Around here you either (a) pay through the nose or (b) drive for hours just to find a decent range.
Amen
Around here you either (a) pay through the nose or (b) drive for hours just to find a decent range.
I'm not wild about either prospect but it's the reality of the Front Range and for now, that's where I live.
I had an opportunity to go to the range earlier this week and commented to the person I went with that "I wish it were closer.....but if it was, it'd be crowded".
The combination of the glut of guns, Remington going into the tank, folks trying to get rid of the guns they are bored with and the required transfer at FFL have really hurt the used marked in Colorado. There are 4 or 5 guns sitting in the Classifieds on here right now that, given a different time, I would snatch up, but I personally have 5 I don't want that I have had a hard time getting sold off.
Outside of "collectables", I haven't seen prices this low on a lot of things in many years. Had HRC won the presidency, we would be experiencing quite the opposite right now.
Great-Kazoo
12-23-2017, 00:08
Outside of "collectables", I haven't seen prices this low on a lot of things in many years. Had HRC won the presidency, we would be experiencing quite the opposite right now.
Had HRC won (thank you) i'm sure a lot of us could have paid off their house and or purchased a new, or low mileage year old, vehicle. Hypothetically.
Probably not far off. I'm thankful every day that we did NOT get her as a president. I'm rather pleased with the prices and availability of firearms, ammo & components. I'd like to see it stay that way for a long damn time.
While most of the news for Black Friday sales centered on Amazon.com breaking all kinds of sales records and capturing an estimated half of all online sales, the FBI reported a different kind of record-breaking number: It processed more criminal background check applications of potential gun buyers on that one day than it has on any other single day ever.
Is this the good news the firearms industry was waiting for? (https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/companies/is-this-the-good-news-the-firearms-industry-was-waiting-for/ar-BBGGznu)
kpp80202
12-25-2017, 12:15
The combination of the glut of guns, Remington going into the tank, folks trying to get rid of the guns they are bored with and the required transfer at FFL have really hurt the used marked in Colorado. There are 4 or 5 guns sitting in the Classifieds on here right now that, given a different time, I would snatch up, but I personally have 5 I don't want that I have had a hard time getting sold off.
+1. I have a few pieces that I wouldn’t mind selling, but at current prices, they are worth more to me as temporary paper weights.
APEXgunparts
12-25-2017, 12:33
Is this the good news the firearms industry was waiting for? (https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/companies/is-this-the-good-news-the-firearms-industry-was-waiting-for/ar-BBGGznu)
No, those sales helped retailers.
Most of which won't restock what they were "pushing" to get out of inventory.
Lots of guns were sold at cost, or the promise of rebates from the manufacturer.
The shops need to see the demand and have the money to order more guns from the distributors.
The distributors will place production orders with the manufacturers ONLY when they see enough demand to risk the restock.
The manufacturers only produce guns to fill production orders.
Without continuing demand from the retailers and their customers this will only get worse for the big firearms manufacturers.
Over the last 8 years lots of companies borrowed money to increase capacity and modernize their manufacturing methods.
Now due to the downturn in sales they don't have the money to re-pay the loans, and cover all the overhead of operating.
No one knows where the "bottom" is to this market.
OH, and do some simple comparisons to other manufacturing industries, the US firearms firms are relatively small.
Some are owned by investment groups:
BIGGEST CONSISTENT OWNERS OF KEY FIREARM STOCKS
BlackRock,
Vanguard,
London Co. of Virginia,
Fidelity,
First Eagle,
RBC Global,
LSV Asset,
Fiduciary Management,
Capital Research,
https://vistaoutdoor.com/brands/
Expect to see brands and products "go away" if the sales numbers in this industry keep sliding down .
Richard
Dropped like a SIG 320 and shot a hole right in the market!
Oh snap! Been a while since I saw a sig320 reference; was hoping everybody's okay.
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