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buckshotbarlow
12-26-2017, 22:38
Not a gripe thread, but what was your worst Christmas present seen or given?
I got a android tablet, will never ever use it...
KestrelBike
12-26-2017, 23:01
My 14 year old orange tabby starting to have bad kidney issues : ( Looks like I'll be giving him subcutaneous fluids twice a week to keep his fluids level constant. And the K/D (kidney-friendly diet) is not exactly cheap. I'm going to keep him going for as long as he's comfortable, though. He's been a fantastic cat- never scratched or hissed at anyone, serious hit with the ladies, etc. Love that guy.
OtterbatHellcat
12-26-2017, 23:09
This year I didn't get much, but I also won't complain about the things that I did receive.
As for the second part of your query, I would cite the "discount" brownell binoculars that my mom gave me some years back. They must have been dropped or something, cause when you look through them you feel as though you just got off a Tilt-A-Whirl.
Great-Kazoo
12-26-2017, 23:17
This year I didn't get much, but I also won't complain about the things that I did receive.
As for the second part of your query, I would cite the "discount" brownell binoculars that my mom gave me some years back. They must have been dropped or something, cause when you look through them you feel as though you just got off a Tilt-A-Whirl.
That was a kaleidoscope.
OtterbatHellcat
12-26-2017, 23:26
Yes.....that's what you'll see when you look through it.
That was a kaleidoscope.
https://media.giphy.com/media/1gArwncRlXac8GIhNy8/giphy.gif
newracer
12-26-2017, 23:56
I got a box of maple nut clusters from my mom, I hate maple.
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My 14 year old orange tabby starting to have bad kidney issues : ( Looks like I'll be giving him subcutaneous fluids twice a week to keep his fluids level constant. And the K/D (kidney-friendly diet) is not exactly cheap. I'm going to keep him going for as long as he's comfortable, though. He's been a fantastic cat- never scratched or hissed at anyone, serious hit with the ladies, etc. Love that guy.
We had a cat with urinary crystal issues. Had him on prescription food for a while. We found better pricing and more flavor options on http://www.chewy.com. Was cheaper with delivery than buying from Petsmart.
A knife set I get for free for renewing my membership/magazine subscription. Oh well at least it will cut something
You guys are such pessimists. There's no such thing as a bad gift. Even if the gift itself is poorly thought out or useless it's the thought behind the gift that counts.
One my favorite gifts this year was this White Elephant gift we got.
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/4ussWLGj_hQ/maxresdefault.jpg
One my favorite gifts this year was this White Elephant gift we got.
[snip]
That's actually kind of cool!
I always get a five pound bag of Hot Tamales in my stocking. Takes a couple of months to work on that.
Beetus
One my favorite gifts this year was this White Elephant gift we got.
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/4ussWLGj_hQ/maxresdefault.jpg
We gave one of those as a gift this year.
A friend gave his stepson a beginners anal fantasy kit because he would not tell him what he wanted for christmas.
The best part was his aunt is a nurse and took every item out and explained what it was for
Not a gripe thread, but what was your worst Christmas present seen or given?
I got a android tablet, will never ever use it...
That's a tragic story. Why don't you send me that tablet so I can help end the misery that you must be experiencing.
Not a gripe thread, but what was your worst Christmas present seen or given?
I got a android tablet, will never ever use it...
We bought a tablet for grandma and it turned out to be a dud. Maybe yours is a little better and you'd like to sell it?
theGinsue
12-27-2017, 10:54
Since I received no gifts, I can't contribute to this thread.
My 14 year old orange tabby starting to have bad kidney issues : ( Looks like I'll be giving him subcutaneous fluids twice a week to keep his fluids level constant. And the K/D (kidney-friendly diet) is not exactly cheap. I'm going to keep him going for as long as he's comfortable, though. He's been a fantastic cat- never scratched or hissed at anyone, serious hit with the ladies, etc. Love that guy.
My 6month old puppy decided to eat a nylabone on Friday night. He ingested it and it clogged him up. Enough that we took him to the vet on Saturday, they did x-rays, saw his stomach was full, waited 4 hours, x-ray again, still full. Administered peroxide to make him vomit, and he threw up 4 equally sized pieces of it that had been jamming up the works. $400 later he's back to normal. So not exactly the worst present, we got to keep a healthy puppy, but at the cost of $400 he sure has expensive taste!
Picture of the same kind of bone he ate:
https://www.nylabone.com/-/media/Images/Nylabone-NA/US/Our-Products/All-Products/chew-toys-moderate-chew/NX933P_1.png
My microwave broke for the 2nd time in 4 months. The house's gift to us.
Since I received no gifts, I can't contribute to this thread.
I got a few little things if you want me to share... want a $25 chipolte card? I don't eat there.
Best xmas card.. taken at thanksgiving with my family.. If you pay attention to my hand you'll notice the middle finger is flying... yep.. my aunt sent them out to everyone... THEN she noticed... bwahahahahahahahahahahaha
I got too much, wife kind of went off-script this year. Puppy print pajamas (returned), monogrammed hand towels (Regifted), two flannel shirts (returned), 55 ounce beer glass (returned).
My 16 year old, for White Elephant, put a 4 point deer antler shed in a box and wrapped it really nice.
theGinsue
12-27-2017, 12:34
Uh, Chipotle, no thank you. Chipotle is the gift that keeps on giving, long after you've consumed their "food".
I was never a fan of theirs, but after their health/cleanliness issues I vowed to never eat there again. To the company's credit [sarcasm], when they were going through the health crisis they did close down all of their stores for a whole 1/2 day for cleaning and training...yep, a whole 1/2 day. They recently came out saying their health crisis was caused by sick employees. Yes, employees at multiple restaurants around the nation were ill with the same sickness at about the same time; how convenient for Chipotle.
theGinsue
12-27-2017, 12:36
My 16 year old, for White Elephant, put a 4 point deer antler shed in a box and wrapped it really nice.
That's one you can't return - the deer don't want them back.
My sister's dog dropped dead a few minutes after they arrived.
theGinsue
12-27-2017, 12:38
My sister's dog dropped dead a few minutes after they arrived.
Well, that's different. I suppose putting a bow on it at that point wouldn't have been too kosher; eh?!
ETA: Sorry, that was cold and heartless. I hearby chastise myself.
Zundfolge
12-27-2017, 12:46
I'm not all that disappointed in the gifts I got from my wife ... well not any more than usual.
She LOVES to get clothes for Christmas and as such seems to think I love getting clothes for Christmas too. Keeping in mind we stick to a budget (this year was $65 each) so its not like she can get me guns or other toys, but it is kinda annoying to have to pretend to be excited by the two pairs of pants and two pairs of shoes she got me (even though they're nice and I like them ok, its just not what I really want for Christmas).
But to be honest, last time I was really all that excited about my Christmas gifts was when I was 12, and that's fine with me ... if we were to up the budget to where we could get stuff that would be exciting then I'd have nothing but anxiety over paying for it all.
My sister's dog dropped dead a few minutes after they arrived.
Well that's a bummer ... puts a damper on the holiday spirit (and makes my complaints seem silly by comparison).
I wrapped a fire extinguisher for White Elephant. I knew someone was going to think it was a bottle of wine.
Everything was great. My kids (well, my wife with their help) made a shirt with their hand prints [odd note -- the 3-in-February oldest's hands are only slightly bigger than those of his 8 month old little brother...], and my wife got me a gift card to Buffalo Wild Wings. Sis in law got me a 6x monocular. No complaints from me!
hurley842002
12-27-2017, 13:02
That's a tragic story. Why don't you send me that tablet so I can help end the misery that you must be experiencing.Kind of what I was thinking.
bellavite1
12-27-2017, 13:33
Well, that is one thing we don't have to worry about...[Coffee]
KevDen2005
12-27-2017, 13:52
My wife's pothead cousins invited themselves to stay at my house
I wrapped a fire extinguisher for White Elephant. I knew someone was going to think it was a bottle of wine.
Was it a Kidde extinguisher? Pre or post recall :P
My wife's pothead cousins invited themselves to stay at my house
It's official, you win! You could have said "Merry Christmas- I got you guys some trespassing tickets!"
buffalobo
12-27-2017, 14:16
Well, that is one thing we don't have to worry about...[Coffee]Good timing and placement.
Good for chuckle and then another chuckle for those who will wonder.
If you're unarmed, you are a victim
Holger Danske
12-27-2017, 14:46
I got a head cold, yay!
It's official, you win! You could have said "Merry Christmas- I got you guys some trespassing tickets!"
Was under the impression that if they are invited in, it's a civil matter and no longer trespassing?
BushMasterBoy
12-27-2017, 14:48
She left me for a four whole days!
KevDen2005
12-27-2017, 14:52
Was under the impression that if they are invited in, it's a civil matter and no longer trespassing?
The invitation can't be from the trespasser...i.e. they invited themselves or let themselves in.
I didn't invite them. They just showed up because someone on my wife's side of the family told them about my gathering. They took it upon themselves to get too intoxicated on alcohol that I provided to drive and I didn't think I should let them go out and kill one of you guys.
The invitation can't be from the trespasser...i.e. they invited themselves or let themselves in.
I didn't invite them. They just showed up because someone on my wife's side of the family told them about my gathering. They took it upon themselves to get too intoxicated on alcohol that I provided to drive and I didn't think I should let them go out and kill one of you guys.
Ah, that's the worst! Nothing like having guests you never wanted, and then you have to let them stay because you're a good person and won't allow them to drive intoxicated. Hopefully it didn't completely ruin your Christmas.
The invitation can't be from the trespasser...i.e. they invited themselves or let themselves in.
I didn't invite them. They just showed up because someone on my wife's side of the family told them about my gathering. They took it upon themselves to get too intoxicated on alcohol that I provided to drive and I didn't think I should let them go out and kill one of you guys.
Don't you have a place you can store them at work? Just overnight.
The invitation can't be from the trespasser...i.e. they invited themselves or let themselves in.
I didn't invite them. They just showed up because someone on my wife's side of the family told them about my gathering. They took it upon themselves to get too intoxicated on alcohol that I provided to drive and I didn't think I should let them go out and kill one of you guys.
But were the allowed inside by yourself or your wife?
Lyft prices weren't bad on Christmas Eve. Thornton to Golden for only $26.
DenverGP
12-27-2017, 15:27
Picture of the same kind of bone he ate:
https://www.nylabone.com/-/media/Images/Nylabone-NA/US/Our-Products/All-Products/chew-toys-moderate-chew/NX933P_1.png
Glad you were able to fix him up.. Nylabone makes different "toughness" bones and toys. For our new one, we had to go to their "Dura-Chew" versions because she shredded a few of the moderate ones, but luckily didn't eat them the bits (or at least not enough of the bits to cause issues)
DenverGP
12-27-2017, 15:30
I wrapped a fire extinguisher for White Elephant. I knew someone was going to think it was a bottle of wine.
I'd easily take a fire extinguisher over a bottle of wine.
KevDen2005
12-27-2017, 16:01
But were the allowed inside by yourself or your wife?
I think we're talking about two different things. The first being the actual law. The second being annoying family. They were allowed in, so not trespassing. They showed up on their own as only an annoying person related to my wife's side of the family can do.
Wife got me this "Echo Dot" Alexa contraption. I don't know wtf she was thinking, she knows I have no interest in that silly shit. Very little interest in most technology actually.
Wife got me this "Echo Dot" Alexa contraption. I don't know wtf she was thinking, she knows I have no interest in that silly shit. Very little interest in most technology actually.
Again, send it to me. I'll take it off your hands & end all of your pain and suffering as it applies to this subject now. I'm just such a good team player like that.
Again, send it to me. I'll take it off your hands & end all of your pain and suffering as it applies to this subject now. I'm just such a good team player like that.
Right decent of ya Jer! Don't know what to do with it yet, but I damn sure don't need or want some friggin' contraption to turn shit on and off for me.
GilpinGuy
12-27-2017, 19:51
I got a head cold, yay!
My daughter gave me a nasty chest cold. Booo.
Right decent of ya Jer! Don't know what to do with it yet, but I damn sure don't need or want some friggin' contraption to turn shit on and off for me.
I'm nothing if not a team player.
I've got a smart home controller do we've got some of these strategically throughout the house. They get used quite frequently for turning lights on & off mostly with the occasional weather check.
Right decent of ya Jer! Don't know what to do with it yet, but I damn sure don't need or want some friggin' contraption to turn shit on and off for me.Already have a Clapper, do you?
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blacklabel
12-27-2017, 21:28
The wife and I exchange wish lists on Amazon. She literally just bought me all of it.
A friend gave his stepson a beginners anal fantasy kit because he would not tell him what he wanted for christmas.
The best part was his aunt is a nurse and took every item out and explained what it was forOMG! That's funny right there.
Any bets as to whether or not his stepson has a list next year?
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My sister's dog dropped dead a few minutes after they arrived.
The worst so far.
colorider
12-27-2017, 23:06
My 6month old puppy decided to eat a nylabone on Friday night. He ingested it and it clogged him up. Enough that we took him to the vet on Saturday, they did x-rays, saw his stomach was full, waited 4 hours, x-ray again, still full. Administered peroxide to make him vomit, and he threw up 4 equally sized pieces of it that had been jamming up the works. $400 later he's back to normal. So not exactly the worst present, we got to keep a healthy puppy, but at the cost of $400 he sure has expensive taste!
Picture of the same kind of bone he ate:
https://www.nylabone.com/-/media/Images/Nylabone-NA/US/Our-Products/All-Products/chew-toys-moderate-chew/NX933P_1.png
Best lesson learned...... ALWAYS have peroxide on hand when you have a puppy or even a grown dog. It will save you a ton of $$$$$$$$ and vet visits. I learned this lesson the same way you did.
DenverGP
12-28-2017, 00:04
Had to use peroxide on my old pup Mugsy when he found and ate a pill our other dog had gotten tricky and spit out. Saw it just a second too late to grab it. Peroxide got it out before it had dissolved in his stomach.
Do note: peroxide looses it's effectiveness over time... if you've got an old bottle, throw it out and pick up a new one.
Right decent of ya Jer! Don't know what to do with it yet, but I damn sure don't need or want some friggin' contraption to turn shit on and off for me.
If Jer hadn't offered to take it off your hands, I'd have given ya something for it. :-D
Not a gripe thread, but what was your worst Christmas present seen or given?
I got a android tablet, will never ever use it...
Make/Model?
Didn't need or want anything in particular.
Under duress, I asked for some new t-shirts. That's all. Some 9-line, maybe a few "Awesome T's" I had tagged.
Got one cool grandpa shirt in the wrong size (too small) and a couple crooked ass home-made awesome T knock-offs.
OTOH, I did get a Samsung Gear S3, so that was pretty cool of everyone that pitched in for it.
Best gift ever was most of the immediate family together this year, spending time with both my boys and the two grandsons.
If Jer hadn't offered to take it off your hands, I'd have given ya something for it. :-D
Wife is gonna check with her AA girls, most of them are young enough to dig it. I'm just too old and disinterested in techy stuff like that. I probably use 1% of what my smartphone is capable of, just don't care about all that shit. Don't have enough brain cells left to fight it.
Bailey Guns
12-28-2017, 07:31
I got a bunch of damn Californians moving in...
KevDen2005
12-28-2017, 08:08
The worst so far.
I don't know man, I think Bailey Guns has it worse.
I don't know man, I think Bailey Guns has it worse.
Yup.
I can choose to not have a dog.
I can't choose to not have Californians.
My 14 year old orange tabby starting to have bad kidney issues : ( Looks like I'll be giving him subcutaneous fluids twice a week to keep his fluids level constant. And the K/D (kidney-friendly diet) is not exactly cheap. I'm going to keep him going for as long as he's comfortable, though. He's been a fantastic cat- never scratched or hissed at anyone, serious hit with the ladies, etc. Love that guy.
Don't give him tap water- use distilled water. The crap they put in tap water isnt good for anyone, much less a cat. I'm sorry that you're going through this- one of our cats had kidney issues.
Wife got me this "Echo Dot" Alexa contraption. I don't know wtf she was thinking, she knows I have no interest in that silly shit. Very little interest in most technology actually.
My wife's boss gave her one of those Alexa things for Christmas... It's actually kind of neat- you can just yell at it all day "Alexa, play iHeartRadio, 630 KHOW." "Alexa, tell me a joke." "Alexa, STFU!" I even tried to have fun and ask "Alexa, when will Skynet become self-aware." Didn't work though.
Best lesson learned...... ALWAYS have peroxide on hand when you have a puppy or even a grown dog. It will save you a ton of $$$$$$$$ and vet visits. I learned this lesson the same way you did.
Yeah, usually you learn from mistakes- this was an expensive one. He eats all sorts of things, and has been nicknamed "The Destroyer." We've lost toys that we've had for over 10 years!
Wife got me this "Echo Dot" Alexa contraption. I don't know wtf she was thinking, she knows I have no interest in that silly shit. Very little interest in most technology actually.
She probably thought she was buying the Silver version.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YvT_gqs5ETk
She probably thought she was buying the Silver version.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YvT_gqs5ETk
LOL, I just posted that on FB and tagged my wife.
Circuits
12-29-2017, 01:31
My aunt makes these little decorative doily things that can double as christmas tree ornaments. I have no use for them, but it's the thought that counts, I guess.
theGinsue
12-29-2017, 11:22
BINGO!
No matter what advantages these devices might provide, I see the disadvantages outweighing them. Thanks, but no thanks.
I just don't like big data having access to 24/7 voice recordings to archive for all time.
At some point in the future it will be a slam dunk to prosecute no matter innocence, you will always have damning evidence.
Impeachment:
"You previously testified you didn't know anything about MesoTeraTetrhydronicyclonicBiNucleicAcid" and never heard of it? (Total bullshit, don't google it).
"Oh, so you conveniently forgot that you asked Alexia 25 years ago to this day about this exact type of poison?"
GUILTY
Darker days are coming down the road from the nanny state. I'd rather they not have a better memory of what I said than I do.
That is an interesting point... albeit a bit tin foily, but with the way things are going, this wouldn't surprise me. Good thing all we talk about in our kitchen is what's for dinner and that funny thing that happened on the way to the forum.
theGinsue
12-29-2017, 11:30
That is an interesting point... albeit a bit tin foily, but with the way things are going, this wouldn't surprise me.
Already being done:
http://www.thefiscaltimes.com/2016/12/28/Amazon-s-Echo-Witness-Prosecution
https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/internet/prosecutors-get-warrant-amazon-echo-data-arkansas-murder-case-n700776
Then, there's this: Parrot Activates Alexa When Mimicking Owner, Places Online Orde (https://www.techspot.com/news/71075-parrot-activates-alexa-when-mimicking-owner-places-online.html)r
Reminds me of this:
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I'm finding applicability for limited mobility. I can't just roll over and stretch to reach the lamp on the bedside table at bedtime anymore. Certainly won't be able to do it after 2 more spinal surgeries in January. Being able to get the Echo Dot to do it with an "Alexa, turn off/on the bedroom light" is very handy.
Bailey Guns
12-29-2017, 13:41
That's easy to solve. Alexa can just be programmed to Mirandize you every time you use it.
Bailey Guns
12-29-2017, 13:44
And those jelly belly beans are awesome. I've tried several, including bike and vomit flavored, and they are spot on. Disgusting but funny.
hollohas
12-29-2017, 15:51
I just don't like big data having access to 24/7 voice recordings to archive for all time.
At some point in the future it will be a slam dunk to prosecute no matter innocence, you will always have damning evidence.
This has already happened in a murder case. Amazon wouldn't provide the info if I can remember correctly. I'll do some googling.
Edit : Ginsue posted it already...
As for a sort of awesome, sort of horrid gift: "Bean Boozled" by Jelly Belly. Look in the holiday section at Kroger.
https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0972/7116/products/jelly_belly_bean_boozled_4th_edition_menu_706add4c-d5c5-4eaf-8864-3c5e46af563f.png?v=1482177359
Holy. hell. This stuff is no joke. After christmas dinner, we all played Russian Roulette with candy. It will not become a family tradition. The one complete "game" is good enough for life. You expect it to be kinda-sorta bad. But no, they aced this stuff. Spoiled milk isn't like - a week past expiration. Spoiled milk is you just took a swig of something that's been sitting in the sun in summer for three days. It's probably the worst. Dead fish is waaaay up there too. At one point one got stuck on my tooth and I almost puked on the table trying to get it out.
What makes this awesome though, is get some, and slip a few beans into the existing jelly-bean bowl at work or what have you. Hilarity will ensue, just disavow any connection to it. Don't put this out all by itself, make sure people get used to taking fistfulls of "good" beans first.
The barf one is the WORST.
The thing with the jelly beans, is that more often than not, if you have someone eat one, and don't tell them what it's supposed to taste like, they think it tastes like something else, often times something good. Once they've chewed a few times, if you tell them what it is, then everything hits and it much more funny.
BladesNBarrels
12-29-2017, 17:32
I just don't like big data having access to 24/7 voice recordings to archive for all time.
At some point in the future it will be a slam dunk to prosecute no matter innocence, you will always have damning evidence.
Impeachment:
"You previously testified you didn't know anything about MesoTeraTetrhydronicyclonicBiNucleicAcid" and never heard of it? (Total bullshit, don't google it).
"Oh, so you conveniently forgot that you asked Alexia 25 years ago to this day about this exact type of poison?"
GUILTY
Darker days are coming down the road from the nanny state. I'd rather they not have a better memory of what I said than I do.
Politicians don't have to abide by anything they said.
But, everyone else does.
Back on Topic
buffalobo
12-29-2017, 18:23
There is something wrong with you guys eating a jelly bean you know is horrible tasting ahead of time.
I would say "Damn Kids" but ...
If you're unarmed, you are a victim
As for a sort of awesome, sort of horrid gift: "Bean Boozled" by Jelly Belly. Look in the holiday section at Kroger.
https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0972/7116/products/jelly_belly_bean_boozled_4th_edition_menu_706add4c-d5c5-4eaf-8864-3c5e46af563f.png?v=1482177359
Holy. hell. This stuff is no joke. After christmas dinner, we all played Russian Roulette with candy. It will not become a family tradition. The one complete "game" is good enough for life. You expect it to be kinda-sorta bad. But no, they aced this stuff. Spoiled milk isn't like - a week past expiration. Spoiled milk is you just took a swig of something that's been sitting in the sun in summer for three days. It's probably the worst. Dead fish is waaaay up there too. At one point one got stuck on my tooth and I almost puked on the table trying to get it out.
What makes this awesome though, is get some, and slip a few beans into the existing jelly-bean bowl at work or what have you. Hilarity will ensue, just disavow any connection to it. Don't put this out all by itself, make sure people get used to taking fistfulls of "good" beans first.
ETA: I will say, I could eat the toothpaste beans regularly. They aren't bad, like mint candy. If you use this prank, know that blue is always safe.
Taste tester for Jelly Belly has to be in the top ten worst job list.
hurley842002
12-30-2017, 06:11
We did the beanboozled last year at Christmas, what a hoot! Rotton egg and barf seem to be the two that stick out for me.
KevDen2005
12-30-2017, 07:57
I just don't like big data having access to 24/7 voice recordings to archive for all time.
At some point in the future it will be a slam dunk to prosecute no matter innocence, you will always have damning evidence.
Impeachment:
"You previously testified you didn't know anything about MesoTeraTetrhydronicyclonicBiNucleicAcid" and never heard of it? (Total bullshit, don't google it).
"Oh, so you conveniently forgot that you asked Alexia 25 years ago to this day about this exact type of poison?"
GUILTY
Darker days are coming down the road from the nanny state. I'd rather they not have a better memory of what I said than I do.
I'm the same way. My wife's family got her an Echo Dot or whatever it is. I told my wife, which she already knew, I don't like that kind of stuff in the house. I don't run any of my cameras in the house either. I don't even like the wireless baby monitor. Am I being paranoid, probably. It's more of a peace of mind thing for me. Her whole family loves crap like that where I'm the kind of guy that would rather live simpler.
Wife bought two dots and an Echo show, unbeknownst to me. I can only hope they were on a fire sale.
The echo show is basically an overpriced radio. The weather forecast sucks. How about an actual video of the weather? How about local news stories with actual video instead of just audio.
My sister brought the plague. Nothing better than driving from Iowa to Colorado with two sick kids (2yr old and 5mo old) and a sick wife. We're just starting to recover.
KevDen2005
12-30-2017, 22:08
My sister brought the plague. Nothing better than driving from Iowa to Colorado with two sick kids (2yr old and 5mo old) and a sick wife. We're just starting to recover.
Dang, I heard this was quite destructive in the 1300s
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