10mm Comeback

[electronman1729]

A LGS owner told me that .40 cal is dying off, and 10mm is coming back.

Has anyone noticed anything like this? Why would someone choose 10mm over .40?

[Irving]

People who don't compete and/or have to have what the internet says is awesome.


*I have no bad things to say about 10mm.

[Colorado Osprey]

A LGS owner told me that .40 cal is dying off, and 10mm is coming back.

Has anyone noticed anything like this? Why would someone choose 10mm over .40?

The 40 has been dropping in popularity but most who drop it are going back to the 9mm, not going up to the 10.

Reason to buy a 10?:
The same reason someone would buy a 357 magnum instead of a 38 special.
A lot of factory 10mm ammo is neutered and not really any difference in performance, but a quality high performance 10mm load is night and day different from a 40S&W.

Where a lot of people choose a 45acp is the same reason I chose the 10mm with the addition of higher capacity.

[stodg73]

I chose 10mm because my dad had it, and I liked it...

[Jeffrey Lebowski]

Reason to buy a 10?:
The same reason someone would buy a 357 magnum instead of a 38 special.


Not the point you’re trying to make, but I chose it because I’m not willing to carry .357 mag (revolver) out in the woods and it is the biggest I will carry. Also, in GSSF I shoot it better than 9mm, so go figure. I’ve never shot .40 all that well, but that’s b/c my 10mm frame > > my .40.

[roberth]

I think the decline in 40SW has more to do with LE is transitioning back to 9mm, 9mm has improved greatly over the last 10 years and 9mm is easier to manage than 40SW, especially for people who aren't "gun" people.

I agree with Colorado Osprey on 10mm. Sig has their P220 10mm, I own one, very happy with it, I take it hiking. I don't know how long the Glock 20 has been in production, but a long time. I see announcements from other manufacturers about their new 10mm offerings.

I like Underwood 10mm, there are a few other choices out there, or you can roll your own like I do.

[Great-Kazoo]

I'm a 10 mm fan. Regarding 40 IMO it's because there's such a low, and i mean low resale value. You put a 9, 40 & 45 on a gun show table, or store display, The 40 will be collecting dust long after the others have been sold. The 10 mm once someone shoots one and realizes it's not some tear your arm from it's socket recoil monster, warm up to that caliber real fast.

[CS1983]

A buddy of mine had a Glock 40 MOS. He kept singing its praises, but being a 9mm shooter myself I was weary of his claims that the recoil wasn't bad. I took him up on the chance to shoot it and he was right. It was much more of a solid push than anything. Definitely manageable in the Glock -- unsure what it would feel like on other frames.

In the end, the fully loaded mag/pistol was not a light carry option. I'd definitely not carry it myself (smaller guy, would lose my pants lol).

But if I was going to be in bear country and had a solid manner of carrying it, or I otherwise found a use/need, I'd carry that in a heartbeat.

When I shot it, it was at the range in Canon City. 9mm on their man-sized steel at CCW range = a loud plink. 10mm lifted the stinking target stand off the ground with a loud smack/gong. There was a notable difference in the energy of the impacts. And it felt better to me than shooting a .40SW.

If OP gets a chance, try out a Glock40 MOS. I think you'll be pleasantly surprised at its manageable recoil profile and tickled pink with the kinetic uprooting of an attackers family tree.

[68Charger]

A LGS owner told me that .40 cal is dying off, and 10mm is coming back.

Has anyone noticed anything like this? Why would someone choose 10mm over .40?

Hmm, was he trying to sell a 10mm by any chance? (sometimes the simplest explanation is the correct one)

All kidding aside, the only reason to choose .40S&W over 10mm is for compatibility (with another firearm or with ammo that's still on the shelf when a (D) is in office)...
10mm can be loaded to the same power, so recoil isn't any different when using those loads... they use the same bullets and dies, but primers, brass and frequently powder are different.

but then load full-house 10mm loads and you've got some real power

[Irving]

Does 10mm use large pistol primers?

[stodg73]

Does 10mm use large pistol primers?

Yes

[Grant H.]

I own 10mm because I hate revolvers, and it makes a great critter gun in the woods.

I have never, and never will own a .40. It does nothing but add recoil to what my 9mm can do, and it sucks to shoot compared to a .45.

[roberth]

I wonder if S&W will bring the 610 back. That would be fun.

[beast556]

10mm is great, I have owned a few different ones over the years and have a g20 now. If ammo manafacturs would load it properly and bring there costs down 10mm would be even more popular. 15rds of full house 10mm is pretty hard to beat.

[vossman]

I wonder if S&W will bring the 610 back. That would be fun.

I’d like to see one in the M&P line.

[Marine24]

Ruger's new GP100 in 10mm has my attention.


https://youtu.be/zl9PycWc1sY

[Wolfshoon]

10mm, reminds me of the 80's and Miami Vice with Crockett's Bren Ten. Also the controversy of Glock releasing a 10mm before the premiere 10mm launch customer pistol maker got product on the shelves ( can't remember who the pistol maker was though, might have been Bren or some other manufacturer)

[thedave1164]

I have been shooting 10mm since the Delta Elite was released and Norma was the only ammo made.

I remember how happy I was when Hornady introduced their 10mm loads

I have always been a 10mm fan, I own a .40 but have never been fond of the short and weak.

[Wulf202]

10mm, reminds me of the 80's and Miami Vice with Crockett's Bren Ten. Also the controversy of Glock releasing a 10mm before the premiere 10mm launch customer pistol maker got product on the shelves ( can't remember who the pistol maker was though, might have been Bren or some other manufacturer)

Brent 10 was the first to announce production

[electronman1729]

Hmm, was he trying to sell a 10mm by any chance? (sometimes the simplest explanation is the correct one)

All kidding aside, the only reason to choose .40S&W over 10mm is for compatibility (with another firearm or with ammo that's still on the shelf when a (D) is in office)...
10mm can be loaded to the same power, so recoil isn't any different when using those loads... they use the same bullets and dies, but primers, brass and frequently powder are different.

but then load full-house 10mm loads and you've got some real power


Nope, Owner of the shop knows me very well and what I like. He stopped carrying .40 cal in his shop altogether. But stated that he had a uptick in people wanting 10mm.

Personally I don't know why anybody would practically target shoot 10mm.

[68Charger]

Nope, Owner of the shop knows me very well and what I like. He stopped carrying .40 cal in his shop altogether. But stated that he had a uptick in people wanting 10mm.

Personally I don't know why anybody would practically target shoot 10mm.
Depends on the target [Coffee]

If you reload, it costs roughly the same for mid load as 40s&w reloads... and is no less accurate.

[Zombie Steve]

Not a big fan of the 10mm, but just to play devil's advocate, if the grip size increase doesn't bug you vs. a .40 frame you can handload a significantly bigger range of ammo - plinkers to bigger boomers.

But if that's your goal, you can do a much larger range with a .44mag. [Coffee]

[Hoser]

But if that's your goal, you can do a much larger range with a .44mag.

And if you do it with a 41 Mag or 454 Casull you will look better too.

[Zombie Steve]

It's a true story.

[Stu_Padaso]

And if you do it with a 41 Mag or 454 Casull you will look better too.

show me a .41 mag semi auto and ill buy it ! just saying

[Wulf202]

show me a .41 mag semi auto and ill buy it ! just saying

https://www.gunbroker.com/item/769843034

[68Charger]

show me a .41 mag semi auto and ill buy it ! just saying
you should have said "with a 15 round s capacity"
Or
"That doesnt look like I'm overcompensating for simething when I whip it out"

[MarkCO]

10mm is increasing in popularity. I have been a fan for 30 years and I have several of them. G20SF, Razorback, 610 and a DI PCC.

I think the wane in .40 is due to several factors that are increasing the 9mm appeal. LE going back to 9mm, Production and Carry Optics in USPSA, better defense offerings in 9mm, more women shooting, old farts who have been "anything is fine as long as it starts with a .4" getting arthritis, or dying. The wane in the .40 appeal as well as some Eastern states loosening up caliber restrictions leads to some increase in appeal of the 10mm. Also, guys like Mike McNett and Razor Dobbs have been heard from more recently regarding their love of the cartridge.

[68Charger]

Another reason is that some handguns available in .40 top out at 15 rounds naturally, where 9mm handguns are neutered down by Democrat legislators. If I was limited to 10 rounds, I'd get a bigger hand cannon so each of those rounds count more.

Now that I'm in a free state, I guess I could look at going to 9mm... but I already have guns in .40, and reloading dies are same as 10mm... and when a Dimotwit is in the white house again .40s&w will be the last one still left on the shelf.

[kidicarus13]

...and when a Dimotwit is in the white house again .40s&w will be the last one still left on the shelf.

Shhh. .40 sucks.

[Stu_Padaso]

you should have said "with a 15 round s capacity"
Or
"That doesnt look like I'm overcompensating for simething when I whip it out"

i should have reasearched instead of opening mt stupadas mouth , IMO for me 10 mm works its , most universal all around thumping round
underwood and buffalo bore make some "BRUTAL AMMO FOR 1OMM . really cheap to lol <<<sarcasm

[Stu_Padaso]

Shhh. .40 sucks.

i know a uber passanger that would disagree

[68Charger]

i know a uber passanger that would disagree

Technically, it really sucked for him... it was the uber driver whom it worked out for.

Too soon?

[Yota]

I realize this is a bit old, but thought a couple of you would appreciate this. 10mm 200 gr Beartooth hardcast out of a G40, about 1300 FPS. Full penetration and not recovered. It is my woods carry/camp pistol.

As for the 40 decline, not because it is ballistically inferior, the recoil is manageable except for all the new snowflakes coming of age.[ROFL3]


https://youtu.be/40Xz6Wz7QaM

[Ah Pook]

Had a 10mm gen 3 G20, with a Wolf barrel, for a couple of years and love it. Say Delta Elite 10mm and I'm ecstatic. And I still like .40s.

[SouthPaw]

1cm FTW!

[Nagant1984]

10mm fills a real niche that 40 just doesn’t. 40 is great for CCW or even HD needs but 10mm is an excellent caliber for a woods gun if you don’t like revolvers. I’ve got a Glock 20 and I love it.

I actually recently snatched up my first .40 because it was so cheap. I got a LNIB HK p30 for $400 and felt like I got a really good deal. I’ve seen a ton of super cheap deals on 40 S&W pistols these days. After shooting 10mm for a few years as well as having a 357 Sig, shooting 40 seems really mild.