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fitz19d
06-21-2018, 09:57
Doing the sico promotion for my first nfa. Vaguely familiar with process.

Looks like weld does fingerprints and said they have the forms. Do you know if these are truly FDwhatever cards that will work? Local pd is free but very limited schedule.

I ordered the cards from atf also, no idea how long to come in.

Passport photos, whats a cheap way to do this rather than paying out 15/2 from pharmacy which is expensive for doing a few items.

SouthPaw
06-21-2018, 10:30
Doing the sico promotion for my first nfa. Vaguely familiar with process.

Good choice on a very good deal; I couldn't resist either. If you haven't picked an FFL to transfer your items, I can send you who I use and he has been nothing but great so far. Most FFL's will walk you through the process if you use them because it will make their life easier if it is done right the first time.

Looks like weld does fingerprints and said they have the forms. Do you know if these are truly FDwhatever cards that will work? Local pd is free but very limited schedule.

I get mine done at the Weld County Jail. I believe it is around $10 or so and they are open during normal business hours (closed 12-1pm for lunch). They have worked for all ATF related stuff for me so far.

I ordered the cards from atf also, no idea how long to come in.

Last time I ordered them, they took about a week to come. The jail will provide them if you decide to use them.

Passport photos, whats a cheap way to do this rather than paying out 15/2 from pharmacy which is expensive for doing a few items.

There is some apps out there that will let you do it but I just suck it up and pay Walgreens to do it.

fitz19d
06-21-2018, 10:36
I think I have someone picked out. Prices seem good and is kinda moot since you have to spend 800 for the free octane. Im assuming a transfer fee was if you bought online.

Guess ill swing by the jail after work if I dont get atf shipped ones in time for a tuesday appt with Frederick.

Guess Ill try one of the apps printed out to walmart. Doubt my inkjet makes quality enough photos.

SAnd
06-21-2018, 16:33
Guess Ill try one of the apps printed out to walmart. Doubt my inkjet makes quality enough photos.

I have had a Form 1 and a Form 4 approved with my HP 4520 inkjet printed photos.

I followed these Official Instructions from U.S. Department of State
https://travel.state.gov/content/passports/en/passports/photos/photos.html

I printed them on some non-photo self-sticking shipping label paper. It made it easy to just stick them on.

skoodge
06-21-2018, 18:43
Go to Costco or Sam's, I dont remember which I went to, but it was $5 for 4 passport photos.

brutal
06-21-2018, 21:58
I took photos of me and the wife for my last form 4 on the trust. No issues if you follow the guidelines.

Irving
06-21-2018, 22:14
I took photos of me and the wife for my last form 4 on the trust. No issues if you follow the guidelines.

https://cdn.macrumors.com/article-new/2011/12/drivers_license_app_arizona.jpg

Little Dutch
06-22-2018, 09:46
Walmart costs 25 cents (27 with tax) for a single 4x6 photo. I took my own picture, cropped it following the guidelines for passport photos, and had two 4x6's (6 photo's per) printed at Walmart and cut them out myself. So I did 12 passport-style photo's for 54 cents, a little time, and some driving. I have an old glue stick I use to adhere them to the form.

I've ordered ATF fingerprint forms twice in the past year or so. Both times they arrived in a few days; normal mailing time.
Fingerprinting options out here are sparse, but maybe not as sparse as they are in Frederick. Anyone who knows how to do fingerprinting can do them. Some people roll their own, but I've never actually tried that. If there's a local class 3 dealer, they may have a suggestion on where to get them done.

colorider
06-26-2018, 22:21
Did a can and an sbr using the Silencershop kiosk and the phone app. paperwork and prints done on the kiosk, snapped pics with my phone using their app and sent them through. Purchase stamp on their website and done. I did this through Bristlecone in Lakewood using their Kiosk. I would find a shop near you with one. Sure makes the process super easy.

fitz19d
06-27-2018, 07:40
Did a can and an sbr using the Silencershop kiosk and the phone app. paperwork and prints done on the kiosk, snapped pics with my phone using their app and sent them through. Purchase stamp on their website and done. I did this through Bristlecone in Lakewood using their Kiosk. I would find a shop near you with one. Sure makes the process super easy.

I didnt like the cost though, think it was like >$50 if trying to use it for a can from another dealer or something? I did think about those, but I was happy with my local FFL I found.

Costco was the biggest nice find, $5 for 4 photo's not bad and hassle free over saving $2-3 and doing it myself + walmart. I swear I got cancer from doing the ink for 4 cards.

Jer
06-27-2018, 09:21
I didnt like the cost though, think it was like >$50 if trying to use it for a can from another dealer or something? I did think about those, but I was happy with my local FFL I found.

Costco was the biggest nice find, $5 for 4 photo's not bad and hassle free over saving $2-3 and doing it myself + walmart. I swear I got cancer from doing the ink for 4 cards.

The difference is you have to go to CostCo EVERY time you want an NFA item. For me CostCo is like a 20min drive and we don't have a membership anymore because we never went because of how far away it was. I feel like unless you live right next to a CostCo most will find a Walmart location ends up being just as close or closer given there's four in every town these days.

Years ago, I took a single picture with my camera phone against a white background and used the power of some free photo editing program to get exactly four passport-style photos on a 4x6 that I have saved to my HDD. Now, whenever I want an NFA item I go to Walmart.com, select that picture file to upload and an hour later I drive 5min to pay $0.36 or whatever it is. I then cut it out with some scissors when I get home and I've got four. Take the time to Google how to do this if my overview wasn't enough and you will learn to fish for the rest of your life. It doesn't seem like much but that $4.50 over all of the NFA items I have turns into a couple of tanks of gas in the truck.

Circuits
06-28-2018, 00:36
The fingerprint form is standardized - FD-258. What's necessary for F1/F4 transfers is that the ORI box on that form reads the "WVATF0800" address, and not the local agency's information. The ORI box identifies the "originator" of the fingerprint request. Latest information I had for that was as follows:

WVATF0800
ATF - NFA BRANCH
MARTINSBURG, WV


The ATF does have stickers they can and sometimes do use to overwrite the local agency's information in PD-generated cards, but if ATF gets sloppy and forgets, the prints can get lost and cost you time or lead to a disapproval for failure (in their minds) to provide prints that come back to them after processing.