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funkfool
11-04-2009, 15:24
Ok - I searched and didn't find anything specifically relating to my trouble - so here goes:
I recently received my long awaited Ciener .22 kit for my AR...
and it doesn't work.
It fits in the gun - but when you close it back up (put in the pin) it binds and it will not charge (the bolt only pulls back about 1/2 way and stops)
Looks like it is not machined on the contact point where it meets the hammer?
I'll try to get a picture up...
Anyone else encounterd this problem before?
I wonder if I should just send it back to Midway and if I do - what if I get another just like it?
I have an opportunity to learn something here, I believe... [Swim]
funkfool
11-04-2009, 15:34
Here is the pic - the red circle is the area that doesn't look machined and seems to bind.
(Yea - made it to 'Paintball Shooter'!)
Circuits
11-04-2009, 16:42
It only pulls about halfway back, by design. As long as the bolt face clears the back lip of the magazine, and cocks the hammer, it's going back far enough.
Dr_Fwd
11-04-2009, 17:29
Hope it will help

http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn270/Dr_Fwd/CIMG5153.jpg

http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn270/Dr_Fwd/CIMG5154.jpg

http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn270/Dr_Fwd/CIMG5155.jpg

http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn270/Dr_Fwd/CIMG5157.jpg

http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn270/Dr_Fwd/CIMG5152.jpg
hobowh
11-04-2009, 17:30
nice pics dr
thedave1164
11-04-2009, 17:32
Also most prefer Fed Bulk Pack .22lr

Mine will now shoot the Remington Golden Bullets.

Some have had to break in with CCI Mini Mags.
Dr_Fwd
11-04-2009, 17:32
thanks [Beer]
funkfool
11-04-2009, 17:36
Mine just pulls back - doesn't release and go into battery... I'll see about pics tonight when I get home...
DeusExMachina
11-04-2009, 20:52
Mine only ate Federal Bulk when I had it. Hated Minimags. I also had to clip a few coils from the spring to get it to stop double firing.
Dr_Fwd
11-04-2009, 21:10
Mine just pulls back - doesn't release and go into battery... I'll see about pics tonight when I get home...

can you post pics of the other side?
Dr_Fwd
11-04-2009, 21:11
Mine only ate Federal Bulk when I had it. Hated Minimags. I also had to clip a few coils from the spring to get it to stop double firing.

I have two of this kits, and never had a problem with them...
Ridge
11-04-2009, 21:11
Mine just pulls back - doesn't release and go into battery... I'll see about pics tonight when I get home...

Sounds like either the recoil spring is bad or it needs some lube...
funkfool
11-05-2009, 09:44
Here is a side shot...
I did put some lube on it - just gun oil - a few drops here and there - does it need to be slathered with the stuff?

http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac313/funkfoolery/Ciener_2.jpg


http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac313/funkfoolery/Ciener_1.jpg
funkfool
01-17-2010, 18:53
Ok - my brother-in-law and I figured out the problem.
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac313/funkfoolery/DSCN1559.jpg
The back plate was not at 90 degrees from the frame. That is - it was not perfectly perpendicular to the plane of the frame.
So we had to hammer it to 90 deg. then do a bit of filing on it to get it to function.
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac313/funkfoolery/DSCN1568.jpg
Now it functions fine - took it to the range and it shoots great. Glad to have it working for lower cost practice.
Thanks to my brother-in-law!
Not_A_Llama
01-21-2010, 20:19
Your error was buying a Ciener, when CMMG and Spike's are available.

You didn't need it this time, but just *try* dealing with Jon Arthur Ciener.

I will say that it was a new experience, having someone cuss at you when you're trying to place an order. Just imagine product support.
Hoosier
01-22-2010, 23:47
Hey Dr, what kind of sling is that? Also, slick rifle.