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C Ward
09-11-2019, 14:33
For all the people that wonder if their centerfire fire rifle suppressors need cleaned or not I'll just leave this here

http://https://forum.snipershide.com/threads/ultra-7-10-5oz-heavy-after-28k-rounds-of-6-5-cm.6960879/ (https://forum.snipershide.com/threads/ultra-7-10-5oz-heavy-after-28k-rounds-of-6-5-cm.6960879/)

The word from TBAC is this will take 4 - 5 months to get clean .

00tec
09-11-2019, 15:48
Someone should post pics of their supressor after a few thousand rounds...

Took like a week to clean

You know who you are [Beer]

C Ward
09-11-2019, 16:16
Got some bore scope pictures of my 30P somewhere with about 1500 rds through it .

The carbon was flush with the face of the first baffle , the carbon tapered off as you got further in to nothing at the last couple. Was about 2 or 3 oz. IIRC , took about 2 weeks of soaking and blasting with the pressure washer to get clean.

Irving
09-11-2019, 16:25
Got some bore scope pictures of my 30P somewhere with about 1500 rds through it .

The carbon was flush with the face of the first baffle , the carbon tapered off as you got further in to nothing at the last couple. Was about 2 or 3 oz. IIRC , took about 2 weeks of soaking and blasting with the pressure washer to get clean.

Do you do that at the local car wash?

ray1970
09-11-2019, 16:56
Don?t you guys use an ultrasonic to clean those suppressors? I?ve cleaned stuff that had been carboned up since the 1970?s and it comes out clean as a whistle in about twenty minutes.

C Ward
09-11-2019, 17:12
Do you do that at the local car wash?

2000 psi hot water washer at work

C Ward
09-11-2019, 17:15
Don?t you guys use an ultrasonic to clean those suppressors? I?ve cleaned stuff that had been carboned up since the 1970?s and it comes out clean as a whistle in about twenty minutes.

Ultrasonic cleaner works ok if it not stupid dirty but you have to be careful what chemical you use and I've seen the tubes and finish get damaged where the sit in the cleaner .

ray1970
09-11-2019, 17:25
Not sure what chemical is in the one at work but I?ve put things in there that have a half inch thick layer of carbon leftover from combustion and twenty minutes later they are spotless. Of course being that the company spent $5,000 on the unit I imagine it works a little better than the average hobby model. Not sure what impact it would have on the finish of something like a suppressor though.

Justin
09-12-2019, 09:33
How do you go about using a pressure washer to clean a can?

Do you have a jig or something to hold the can in place while you hit the end of the can with the nozzle of the pressure washer or something?

C Ward
09-12-2019, 10:20
Custom nozzle for the wand and the vice on the back of the service truck .

Justin
09-12-2019, 17:02
Is that the custom nozzle I told Zak he should mass produce and sell like ten years ago?

whitewalrus
09-12-2019, 17:59
I knew they would fill with carbon, but never that bad

izzy
09-12-2019, 18:36
Someone should post pics of their supressor after a few thousand rounds...

Took like a week to clean

You know who you are [Beer]

I'll post some pics when I get home lol

C Ward
09-12-2019, 19:18
Is that the custom nozzle I told Zak he should mass produce and sell like ten years ago?

Maybe but I made my own to fit the machine at work

SA Friday
09-13-2019, 12:38
Maybe but I made my own to fit the machine at work

what does it look like? How did you make it? Can you post a pic?

C Ward
09-13-2019, 13:10
A piece of thick wall tubing about 14 0r so inches welded to a steel pipe fitting , scrap I had laying around at work . Actually made 2 of them one blows straight and the other has the end welded and is cut at 90 deg to the bore .

SA Friday
09-13-2019, 14:52
A piece of thick wall tubing about 14 0r so inches welded to a steel pipe fitting , scrap I had laying around at work . Actually made 2 of them one blows straight and the other has the end welded and is cut at 90 deg to the bore .

I really want to see the 90 degree tube one and see how it works in the suppressors.

C Ward
09-13-2019, 15:08
I'll dig it out and get a picture , it's decidedly ugly and unimpressive

SA Friday
09-13-2019, 15:40
I'll dig it out and get a picture , it's decidedly ugly and unimpressive
One man's garbage is another man's gold.

C Ward
09-13-2019, 19:30
Can't get pictures to upload so here are the links .

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1-MdOon4-DRlY0SnCbSNe_XyZoloRByMz/view?usp=drivesdk

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1-MdOon4-DRlY0SnCbSNe_XyZoloRByMz/view?usp=drivesdk

Great-Kazoo
09-14-2019, 07:12
One man's garbage is another man's gold.


Can't get pictures to upload so here are the links .

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1-MdOon4-DRlY0SnCbSNe_XyZoloRByMz/view?usp=drivesdk

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1-MdOon4-DRlY0SnCbSNe_XyZoloRByMz/view?usp=drivesdk



Curious that if instead of the 1 exit hole. One does something similar, only with say 1/2 doz holes around the tube. Something that has multiple exit ports to reach all areas at once, like a dishwasher does.

Or even 4 holes, 1 drilled through both sides and one more 1/4 - 1/2" on top, again drilled through so there's an offset cross like pattern. BUT keep the end hole smaller, or closed so the pressure exits the sides .

Those pics give me an idea or 2 to work with, if you don't mind? Something else to put on the list.

C Ward
09-14-2019, 09:18
When I tried one with multiple cuts in it the pressure dropped and dribbled more than sprayed .

Can't say with holes instead of cuts , I had no way to hold the tube and drill it , I would think it should work .

The tubing is a high pressure fuel line for a diesel fuel injection test bench , the ID is .050 ish .

The one is just straight through and the one with the cut has the end brazed shut and just sprays at 90 deg about half way around.

SA Friday
09-14-2019, 12:18
Can't get pictures to upload so here are the links .

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1-MdOon4-DRlY0SnCbSNe_XyZoloRByMz/view?usp=drivesdk

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1-MdOon4-DRlY0SnCbSNe_XyZoloRByMz/view?usp=drivesdk

Thanks. this is interesting. I was thinking a single hole was what you made. Never thought of a fan cut.

izzy
09-17-2019, 07:50
These pictures are after about an hour of cleaning. I put about 5000 rounds through the can before hearing the rattle of carbon pieces inside. It took me several weeks to get everything cleaned up. CLR is your friend if you ever get into this situation.

https://i.imgur.com/YqT3Kua.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/vTmblFK.jpg

izzy
09-17-2019, 07:52
The final results.

https://i.imgur.com/htWtxpW.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/V2tf6a6.jpg

Grant H.
09-17-2019, 17:19
1 million plus rounds of 9mm through a Gemtech Raptor...

https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/44167974_156554641962954_5447096069903089664_n-660x528.jpg

Source:
https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2018/11/07/potd-1-million-round-suppressor/

izzy
09-17-2019, 18:08
It's a barrel extension at that point.

TRnCO
01-20-2020, 11:44
I think someone needs to come up with a simpler cleaning solution for suppressors. I have a few thousand rounds through mine and without a doubt it could use a good cleaning. Heck, all a guy has to do is look at the carbon build-up on the end of the rifle barrel after as little as 50 rounds, and he can imagine just how much is in the suppressor.
I'd like to weigh mine just to see how much weight it has gained over the 9 years that I've had it. No doubt it has put on at least a few ounces of crud.

Great-Kazoo
01-21-2020, 16:19
I think someone needs to come up with a simpler cleaning solution for suppressors. I have a few thousand rounds through mine and without a doubt it could use a good cleaning. Heck, all a guy has to do is look at the carbon build-up on the end of the rifle barrel after as little as 50 rounds, and he can imagine just how much is in the suppressor.
I'd like to weigh mine just to see how much weight it has gained over the 9 years that I've had it. No doubt it has put on at least a few ounces of crud.

I figured the easiest way to make the tube with small holes at the end, using a stainless tube. Was a carbine length AR gas tube, that i happen to have 30 of them, i picked up @ a garage sale. Just need to secure it to an air line spray nozzle.

Probably next in queue, after i kind of finish the reloading room.

Irving
01-21-2020, 16:37
Like the OSS cans? This is their advertising of course. I haven't shot a single round through mine, so I can't report on how well this works in real life.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=20s4Tk_S_34

Acetylcholine
01-21-2020, 21:22
His rifle sneezed black snot.
Makes it handy to clean.

Gman
01-21-2020, 22:24
The shot that had the foamy silly string coming out the end was interesting.

Justin
01-22-2020, 09:24
I think someone needs to come up with a simpler cleaning solution for suppressors. I have a few thousand rounds through mine and without a doubt it could use a good cleaning. Heck, all a guy has to do is look at the carbon build-up on the end of the rifle barrel after as little as 50 rounds, and he can imagine just how much is in the suppressor.
I'd like to weigh mine just to see how much weight it has gained over the 9 years that I've had it. No doubt it has put on at least a few ounces of crud.

CLR plus a sonic parts cleaner seems to be the best solution I've found.

Of course, that won't work if your can is Aluminum.

TRnCO
01-22-2020, 10:18
just happens that we have a sonic cleaner here at work, so guess I'll get some CLR and try it myself. My suppressor is titanium.

Do you think CLR works just as good as what a carbon cleaning solution would work? Such as Boretech C4?

izzy
01-22-2020, 13:54
CLR works wonders, see the pictures I posted for the results I've gotten with it.

C Ward
01-22-2020, 16:11
Bore Tech C4 15.00 $ for 3 oz or Zep branded CLR at 15.00 $ a gallon , you'll need at least 30.00 $ of Bore Tech to get started and that is if you just plug and dill the can to soak .

TRnCO
01-22-2020, 16:28
I'm guessing that I easily have north of 6000 rounds through my suppressor, between my .17 hornet, .17 Fireball, 17 Remington, .17-204, .204, .223 AR, and my 22-250, so I am going to try to clean it. I plan to weigh it before cleaning and after, to see if it loses a significant amount of weight. It was supposed to weigh 10 oz. when it was new, but I never weighed it.

TRnCO
01-29-2020, 16:22
well I started the process of cleaning my S.A.S. Ti today. I bought a 16 oz. bottle of C4 and used it. Placed my suppressor in a glass beaker and filled it with the C4 and ran the heated ultra-sonic 5 hours. Good lord the fluid was a gravy when I dumped it out, black gravy. For what I can see, I got more cleaning to do. I will buy some CLR next for my next round of cleaning.

Irving
01-29-2020, 16:42
Did you weigh it before you started?

TRnCO
01-29-2020, 17:36
No I didn't. I tried to but the scale that we have here maxed out and gave no reading, so it's just to heavy to weigh. Not sure what weight the scale goes up to, but not high enough for this purpose.