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Polis suggests Elon Musk should ?look no further? than Colorado if he wants to move Tesla out of California (https://www.msn.com/en-us/autos/news/polis-suggests-elon-musk-should-look-no-further-than-colorado-if-he-wants-to-move-tesla-out-of-california/ar-BB142dX7)
Do you think they would hire Jer? ;-)
Gov. Jared Polis has thrown Colorado into the running should Tesla decide to move its headquarters out of California ? and the company?s bombastic CEO, Elon Musk, mused that the Centennial State could be a great option.https://www.ar-15.co/{"default":{"load":"default","w":"80","h":"51","sr c":"//img-s-msn-com.akamaized.net/tenant/amp/entityid/BB142mbq.img?h=1028&w=1598&m=6&q=60&o=f&l=f&x=619&y=357"},"dpi":2,"size3column":{"load":"default","w ":"62","h":"40","src":"//img-s-msn-com.akamaized.net/tenant/amp/entityid/BB142mbq.img?h=804&w=1248&m=6&q=60&o=f&l=f&x=619&y=357"},"size2column":{"load":"default","w":"62"," h":"40","src":"//img-s-msn-com.akamaized.net/tenant/amp/entityid/BB142mbq.img?h=804&w=1248&m=6&q=60&o=f&l=f&x=619&y=357"}}?
We want you @elonmusk in Colorado, we are the best of all worlds,? Polis wrote in a tweet late Tuesday night (https://twitter.com/jaredpolis/status/1260448043473698824). ?We?re very pro-business, low taxes, also pro immigration, pro-LGBT, globally minded.?
The governor ended by saying Tesla should ?look no further!? (sic) and tagged Musk?s brother, Boulder-based restaurateur Kimbal Musk.
Six minutes later, Musk replied (https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1260449616169971712): ?Hi Jared, Colorado is great! I think your policies make a lot of sense.?
Musk has been publicly sparring with California officials as they barred Tesla from opening its plant during the novel coronavirus crisis, and on Saturday the CEO threatened to move his company out of state as a result of the spat.
The standoff appeared to come to an end (https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/13/business/tesla-plant-reopening/index.html) Wednesday morning, however, as Alameda County officials agreed to let Tesla resume operations as soon as next week.
Jer's reaction:
https://i.imgur.com/09Oc1if.gif
Zundfolge
05-14-2020, 13:29
If your moving out of California because of their heavy handed, anti-business policies ... why the hell would you EVER consider moving to Colorado ... aka East California?
Little Dutch
05-14-2020, 13:33
If your moving out of California because of their heavy handed, anti-business policies ... why the hell would you EVER consider moving to Colorado ... aka East California?
Right? How does Polis think that's going to work?
Right? How does Polis think that's going to work?
Well, he is running off the O&G industry...
Jer's reaction:
https://i.imgur.com/09Oc1if.gif
[ROFL1]
hurley842002
05-14-2020, 13:38
Jer's reaction:
https://i.imgur.com/09Oc1if.gifBaaaahahaha
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If your moving out of California because of their heavy handed, anti-business policies ... why the hell would you EVER consider moving to Colorado ... aka East California?
That's what I thought, it'd just be a lateral move.
O2
SouthPaw
05-14-2020, 13:58
Jer's reaction:
https://i.imgur.com/09Oc1if.gif
That is pure gold [ROFL1]
Jer's reaction:
https://i.imgur.com/09Oc1if.gif
You just won the internet for today.
Right? How does Polis think that's going to work?
Keyword: think
This show us all what Polis is, thoughtless, except when it comes to his own well-being. Typical democrat.
What are some of the heavy handed, anti-business policies here in Colorado? As a business owner, I'd like to know.
TSLA already invested too much $$ on a facility.
They will probably see total and marginal benefit and cost to see it is worth it or not.
If (big if , if within 20mo) they move, I would think it would be az tx area?
Polis is probably sweet on Elon's tight ass.....
ruthabagah
05-15-2020, 10:10
tesla is going to soon announce a new battery factory. it will be twice as big as the gigafactory. northern colorado would be ideal for them.
tesla is going to soon announce a new battery factory. it will be twice as big as the gigafactory. northern colorado would be ideal for them.
Interesting. I thought there were issues between Panasonic and Tesla regarding full capacity not being used in Nevada.
ETA: https://asia.nikkei.com/Spotlight/Most-read-in-2019/Tesla-and-Panasonic-freeze-spending-on-4.5bn-Gigafactory
tesla is going to soon announce a new battery factory. it will be twice as big as the gigafactory. northern colorado would be ideal for them.
Maybe they could buy the old magpul location. :(
Martinjmpr
05-15-2020, 11:29
Interesting. I thought there were issues between Panasonic and Tesla regarding full capacity not being used in Nevada.
ETA: https://asia.nikkei.com/Spotlight/Most-read-in-2019/Tesla-and-Panasonic-freeze-spending-on-4.5bn-Gigafactory
Assuming these are lithium batteries, I would think NV would make more sense since there is a BIG lithium mine there (SW of Tonopah and North of Death Valley.) I've seen it and it's huge.
colorider
05-15-2020, 12:42
Omg. Polis is clueless
What are some of the heavy handed, anti-business policies here in Colorado? As a business owner, I'd like to know.
So, nothing?
So, nothing?
It's more about the direction we're heading.
O2
Business friendly often has more to do with taxes than anything else.
https://taxfoundation.org/state-corporate-income-tax-rates-brackets-2020/
You can glance at that chart and see the real reason Elon might want to move to Nevada or Texas, and why Colorado isn't a great selling point in comparison.
Texas gets a ton of its revenue through property tax, if you were curious. So if Elon needed a ton of real estate proportional to profits, he'd pay out the asssssss in comparison to just paying corporate tax rates. No idea where that balance would strike.
That all depends on what kind of tax breaks he would get. Texas has been winning a lot of business, so there must be something attractive to them.
Other outlets are that they're going to move the factory from California to Austin, TX.
Elon has already been talking about building Cybertruck in Texas, so I guess this would be an opportunity for him to dump out of the NUMMI facility in CA.
Recent and past headquarter move
https://www.foxbusiness.com/markets/corporate-hq-moves-honeywell-chipotle-and-other-companies-that-relocated
Dont forget boeing. :)
Jer's reaction:
https://i.imgur.com/09Oc1if.gif
Pretty close, actually. It would be huge or our economy to have an American-based company create tens of thousands of jobs for Colorado. Being as all of our decent companies are being bought out by overseas interests regularly. Sure they provide local jobs but with corporate profits all leaving the state/country it's a small victory. Tesla will bring TONS of commerce to the area which would be outstanding.
TSLA already invested too much $$ on a facility.
They will probably see total and marginal benefit and cost to see it is worth it or not.
If (big if , if within 20mo) they move, I would think it would be az tx area?
They're already bringing another Gigafactory online in Frankfurt Germany with another one to probably be built either immediately following or possibly at the same time. Right now Texas is the favorite but nobody really knows for sure. When other car companies are imploding Tesla is growing at a feverish pace even during a recession and pandemic.
Assuming these are lithium batteries, I would think NV would make more sense since there is a BIG lithium mine there (SW of Tonopah and North of Death Valley.) I've seen it and it's huge.
The term "Lithium Ion battery" is a bit of a misnomer. These days very little lithium actually makes up the chemistry within the cells. Cobalt makes up the lion's share with today's technology but there's some advancements in the not-too-distant future that will likely greatly lower the requirements for cobalt for a Li-Ion battery cell. Not to mention they already have a Gigafactory just outside of Sparks, NV anyway. It's only in Phase 1 and is already producing more Li-Ion battery cells than all other production (laptops, cell phones, EVs, etc) in the world.
buffalobo
05-15-2020, 16:08
What is a Gigafactory?
Other outlets are that they're going to move the factory from California to Austin, TX.
Elon has already been talking about building Cybertruck in Texas, so I guess this would be an opportunity for him to dump out of the NUMMI facility in CA.
It would also make sense given the location of SpaceX as well. I think that it's nearly a foregone conclusion that Tesla will be in TX next... just a question of if it's another Gigafactory or their HQ should CA continue to piss Elon off.
buffalobo
05-15-2020, 16:11
Never mind.
What is a Gigafactory?
You should Google it but set aside a fair amount of time because it's a pretty interesting rabbit hole. There's some good videos that go over them in detail and it's a pretty incredible aspect of Tesla's vertical integration plan to keep costs down.
Interesting. I thought there were issues between Panasonic and Tesla regarding full capacity not being used in Nevada.
ETA: https://asia.nikkei.com/Spotlight/Most-read-in-2019/Tesla-and-Panasonic-freeze-spending-on-4.5bn-Gigafactory
This info is from a year ago which is similar to a decade ago for other car manufacturers due to the rate at which things change at Tesla. Chances are pretty good that if you heard something about supply line or materials or something even a month ago it's already been addressed.
buffalobo
05-15-2020, 16:39
You should Google it but set aside a fair amount of time because it's a pretty interesting rabbit hole. There's some good videos that go over them in detail and it's a pretty incredible aspect of Tesla's vertical integration plan to keep costs down.Sorry Jer, but I despise all things Tesla. I like you so I don't join in razzing you about Tesla. I find more interesting things to discuss with you or razz you with.
BPTactical
05-15-2020, 17:09
Polis should suck a richard.
Oh, wait.......
Never mind[facepalm]
Looks like Austin, TX was selected to build the new Cybertruck.
It's more about the direction we're heading.
O2
I'm not sure why anyone has any comment about Polis at all. Every politician wants business to move to their area. It doesn't matter if it's good for the business or not. Politicians are going to politic.
UrbanWolf
05-15-2020, 18:20
Other outlets are that they're going to move the factory from California to Austin, TX.
Elon has already been talking about building Cybertruck in Texas, so I guess this would be an opportunity for him to dump out of the NUMMI facility in CA.
The more logical choice for Tesla, lower cost of living which translate to lower cost running a factory in Texas. It will also allow Tesla to sell directly to TX I believe.
How polluting is battery factory? If it is, why would the greens want it here?
BPTactical
05-15-2020, 19:35
Electric vehicles have just as large if not larger "carbon footprint" than a conventional vehicle.
Looks like Austin, TX was selected to build the new Cybertruck.
How long ago did you read that?
Tesla scouts head to Tulsa, Austin as hunt for Cybertruck gigafactory location nears end (https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/companies/tesla-scouts-head-to-tulsa-austin-as-hunt-for-cybertruck-gigafactory-location-nears-end/ar-BB149na5)
Tesla officials visited two sites in Tulsa, Oklahoma this week to search for a location for its future and fifth gigafactory, according to a source familiar with the situation.
Company representatives also visited Austin recently for a potential site for a factory that will produce its all-electric Cybertruck and Model Y crossover. A final decision has not been but Austin and Tulsa are among the finalists, according to the source. The AP also reported Tulsa and Austin as finalists for the gigafactory.
Tesla expects to make a decision as soon as next month, and "certainly within three months," CEO Elon Musk said April 29 during the company's first quarter earnings call.
How long ago did you read that?
Tesla scouts head to Tulsa, Austin as hunt for Cybertruck gigafactory location nears end (https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/companies/tesla-scouts-head-to-tulsa-austin-as-hunt-for-cybertruck-gigafactory-location-nears-end/ar-BB149na5)
Literally moments before I posted that reply. Apparently it's not official but has been leaked & is being reported by local Austin media. To be fair, it's not 100% & Austin clearly has a vested interest in reporting winning so take that for what it's worth but that's been the odds on favorite for months now.
I think youre confusing cobalt and lithium.
Lithium is cheap, abundant, and a lot of the mining is surface level stuff.
Cobalt is the stuff that's dirtier and harder to extract.
Tesla has been undertaking development work to reduce and eventually eliminate cobalt; evidently they've made good strides in this direction.
What is a Gigafactory?
In short, a factory capable of creating a Gigawatt of power storage capacity per year.
Electric vehicles have just as large if not larger "carbon footprint" than a conventional vehicle.
Absolutely untrue once you take into account the logistical chain of maintenance, fuel, oil, etc. that is required to keep an ICE vehicle running vs. a Tesla.
Absolutely untrue once you take into account the logistical chain of maintenance, fuel, oil, etc. that is required to keep an ICE vehicle running vs. a Tesla.
Because all that doesn't go into generating electricity making and charging EV's.
EV's and the whole green movement is the fleecing of the world.
https://youtu.be/Zk11vI-7czE
Because all that doesn't go into generating electricity making and charging EV's.
EV's and the whole green movement is the fleecing of the world.
https://youtu.be/Zk11vI-7czE
The infrastructure to generate electricity is fixed; the power from the stations isn't trucked in weekly, it's moved via cables.
Even if using coal to power an EV, that coal doesn't go through a refining process nearly as intense as the one to turn crude into gas.
And that coal is moved via rail to its final destination at a power plant.
Additionally, mile for mile, even when powered by coal, the additional load on a power plant puts out less carbon when powering an EV vs. an ICE.
Additionally, EVs don't require things like oil changes, mechanically they are simpler so they don't require nearly as much of a logistics chain for parts and service.
I used to think like you did until i really dove down a rabbit hole on the subject and came to the realization that none of the studies of ICE vs EV carbon footprints take into account the carbon footprint of the logistics chain involved in getting a gallon of gasoline out of the ground and all the way to a vehicle's tank.
Because all that doesn't go into generating electricity making and charging EV's.
EV's and the whole green movement is the fleecing of the world.
https://youtu.be/Zk11vI-7czE
Holy shit.
You're going to cite Michael Moore as an authority on anything?
Do you honestly think a commie who's built a career on lying about things is going to be honest in this case?
You think Moore, who's an ardent union supporter wouldn't have an axe to grind about a non-union auto company?
buffalobo
05-16-2020, 13:46
Holy shit.
You're going to cite Michael Moore as an authority on anything?
Do you honestly think a commie who's built a career on lying about things is going to be honest in this case?
You think Moore, who's an ardent union supporter wouldn't have an axe to grind about a non-union auto company?
Did you watch the video or not?
Grant H.
05-16-2020, 13:59
Did you watch the video or not?
With a cast like this? Why bother...
Featuring: Al Gore, Bill McKibben, Richard Branson, Robert F Kennedy Jr., Michael Bloomberg, Van Jones, Vinod Khosla, Koch Brothers, Vandana Shiva, General Motors, 350.org, Arnold Schwarzenegger, Sierra Club, the Union of Concerned Scientists, Nature Conservancy, Elon Musk, Tesla.
Aside from Elon Musk, that's a who's who of useless public hacks and special interest groups that will say anything to further their view... Except GM, and they have a reason to discount Tesla/Musk
Did you watch the video or not?
I sat throughcRoger and Me and Bowling for Columbine and saw what a liar Moore was then.
I'm not about to give him any time now that he's persona non grata with the left and is now trying to run the same grift on conservatives.
So no. I didn't watch the video.
Oil companies love electric vehicles. Saves them from trucking petroleum to every corner of the planet.
EV stuff has suffered the same unfortunate fate as climate change where early discussions were generally separated by party lines. As such, only fools still view either subject through the lens of politics.
I recently saw a buyer driving kia ev. It was quiet. I didn't measure the decibel, but felt quieter than leaf, s, x, i3.
Perfect vehicle for ninja.
https://occ-0-299-300.1.nflxso.net/art/e1f46/758b25c53791c4ab28f269d80071f7f3b6ae1f46.jpg
EV owners I can?t stand:
The ones who buy it thinking they?re doing something green and saving the planet.
EV owners I can deal with:
Those who will admit they bought their vehicles either for the technology or performance or potential reduced maintenance over their ownership of the vehicle or those who just wanted something you don?t see everyone else driving.
buffalobo
05-16-2020, 14:27
Holy shit.
You're going to cite Michael Moore as an authority on anything?
Do you honestly think a commie who's built a career on lying about things is going to be honest in this case?
You think Moore, who's an ardent union supporter wouldn't have an axe to grind about a non-union auto company?
With a cast like this? Why bother...
Aside from Elon Musk, that's a who's who of useless public hacks and special interest groups that will say anything to further their view... Except GM, and they have a reason to discount Tesla/Musk
You guys crack me up. We have an old redneck saying - stupidity is not being able to see passed your own ignorance.
You guys will willfully remain ignorant after two people, neither of which would encourage such a thing if not info there, said info is there. [rockon]
EV owners I can?t stand:
The ones who buy it thinking they?re doing something green and saving the planet.
EV owners I can deal with:
Those who will admit they bought their vehicles either for the technology or performance or potential reduced maintenance over their ownership of the vehicle or those who just wanted something you don?t see everyone else driving.
Buying products to save the planet is kind of a new, novel concept. Whatever damage you're trying to prevent could almost certainly be presented by not engaging in said commerce at all; with revenue going to conservation being the one exception I can readily think of. We like to joke about people thinking they are saving the world by buying a product, but how many of us have really meet a person and like that? And if you have, ideologically, how different are they from people who only want to buy American? Arguments can be made in either direction but people aren't as different as they like to think.
Grant H.
05-16-2020, 14:38
You guys crack me up. We have an old redneck saying - stupidity is not being able to see passed your own ignorance.
You guys will willfully remain ignorant after two people, neither of which would encourage such a thing if not info there, said info is there. [rockon]
Nah... I'm always game to learn...
I just don't listen to people that have proven themselves to be dishonest hacks... If this makes me "stupid" in your eyes, well, darn... [blah-blah]
I have limited "free" time with my work and personal pursuits/interests. I'm not going to waste 2 hours watching drivel generated by disingenuous and hypocritical greenies...
As for the conversation that brought the linking of that video into the conversation, I'm not getting involved. I worked in the O/G world for a LONG time... I have my own opinions based on my own research and understanding.
I have to agree with Justin though, I am very surprised to see folks on here listening to and defending the likes of Michael Moore and Al Gore simply because it fits their dislike of Elon Musk and Tesla...
Nah... I'm always game to learn...
I just don't listen to people that have proven themselves to be dishonest hacks... If this makes me "stupid" in your eyes, well, darn... [blah-blah]
I have limited "free" time with my work and personal pursuits/interests. I'm not going to waste 2 hours watching drivel generated by disingenuous and hypocritical greenies...
As for the conversation that brought the linking of that video into the conversation, I'm not getting involved. I worked in the O/G world for a LONG time... I have my own opinions based on my own research and understanding.
I have to agree with Justin though, I am very surprised to see folks on here listening to and defending the likes of Michael Moore and Al Gore simply because it fits their dislike of Elon Musk and Tesla...
That's not what the conversation is about. Michael Moore's latest film is basically what are conservatives have been saying about the renewable energy market for years and the Renewables supporters are furious about it. Basically like he switched sides.
I can't comment on the Tesla hate, as I genuinely do not understand that, even a little bit.
Grant H.
05-16-2020, 14:53
That's not what the conversation is about. Michael Moore's latest film is basically what are conservatives have been saying about the renewable energy market for years and the Renewables supporters are furious about it. Basically like he switched sides.
I can't comment on the Tesla hate, as I genuinely do not understand that, even a little bit.
As I said, I am staying out of the primary conversation in this thread.
I don't care if he switched sides and is now in a position of agreeing with me on anything, Michael Moore is a useless twat that I have no respect/time/interest for.
As for the Tesla hate, I don't get it either... But hey, everyone gets the opportunity to like/hate what they want. It's no skin off my nose.
So. If I have an ev,
Mileage deduction probably is the same/similar.
What about the gas receipt?
Do I need to calculate how many watt/ power-time unit and multiply it by how much dollar per power-time unit from the electric bill?
Anyone who uses ev as a business vehicle?
Anything new always has some % of the population that hate it. Some for simple existence, some for career threats, others are just change averse or who knows...?
Crap-tons of people saw no future in "ICE" automobiles a little over a century ago...
Horses were practically free if you were out in the country! What kind of moron would buy a rickety machine that needs special fuel...
At any rate, people's mannerisms haven't changed very much in the last century even if our world has tremendously.
You?ll get screwed. You?ll only get credit for zero miles per gallon because that?s what EV?s get.
Mileage deduction probably is the same/similar.
AFAIK, according to my accountant there is no mileage deduction anymore after the increase of the standard deduction to 12k. I don't know if that extends to big corporations, but at least - Mr. or Mrs. self employed is boned on that one, but the Standard Deduction probably more than makes up for it for the vast majority.
Ah misunderstood. Looks like it's just some who lost the deduction:
https://money.usnews.com/money/personal-finance/taxes/articles/everything-you-need-to-know-about-claiming-a-mileage-tax-deduction
ETA: Unless driving a big 8mpg truck, it would seem crazy to not take the per-mile deduction, and that just requires trip and mileage documentation, not evidence of fuel/expenses. It's probably more advantageous to deduct mileage for an EV than an ICE.
Holy shit.
You're going to cite Michael Moore as an authority on anything?
Do you honestly think a commie who's built a career on lying about things is going to be honest in this case?
You think Moore, who's an ardent union supporter wouldn't have an axe to grind about a non-union auto company?
Michael Moore is a POS. That said, he was one of several producers and thankfully we don't have to watch him in the video.
Michael Moore's reputation aside, the video strikes me as mostly supporting what conservatives and anti green machine thinkers have been saying all along.
I you bothered to watch it, instead of assuming what's in it based on the producer or "cast," you might actually realize that it does a fair job of bashing those that push the green agenda and profit from it.
I think youre confusing cobalt and lithium.
Lithium is cheap, abundant, and a lot of the mining is surface level stuff.
Cobalt is the stuff that's dirtier and harder to extract.
Tesla has been undertaking development work to reduce and eventually eliminate cobalt; evidently they've made good strides in this direction.
https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/how-much-lithium-li-ion-vehicle-battery-paul-martin/
With a cast like this? Why bother...
Aside from Elon Musk, that's a who's who of useless public hacks and special interest groups that will say anything to further their view... Except GM, and they have a reason to discount Tesla/Musk
If you bothered to watch it, you would see that the "cast" is the villain in the story.
How long ago did you read that?
Tesla scouts head to Tulsa, Austin as hunt for Cybertruck gigafactory location nears end (https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/companies/tesla-scouts-head-to-tulsa-austin-as-hunt-for-cybertruck-gigafactory-location-nears-end/ar-BB149na5)
Here's more info if you're interested:
https://electrek.co/2020/05/15/tesla-factory-austin-texas/
Some even think they've found the tract of land in/near Hutto, TX:
https://www.reddit.com/r/TeslaLounge/comments/gja1gc/possible_texas_cybertruckterafactory_hutto_tx/
...
I have limited "free" time with my work and personal pursuits/interests. I'm not going to waste 2 hours watching drivel generated by disingenuous and hypocritical greenies...
...
So no Hollywood movies then?
[emoji41]
Sent from somewhere...
Honey Badger282.8
05-16-2020, 15:40
Polis: Tries to woo businesses because Colorado has low taxes.
Also Polis: Argues in favor of measures that weaken the TABOR, the reason for Colorado’s low taxes.
Ah misunderstood. Looks like it's just some who lost the deduction:
https://money.usnews.com/money/personal-finance/taxes/articles/everything-you-need-to-know-about-claiming-a-mileage-tax-deduction
ETA: Unless driving a big 8mpg truck, it would seem crazy to not take the per-mile deduction, and that just requires trip and mileage documentation, not evidence of fuel/expenses. It's probably more advantageous to deduct mileage for an EV than an ICE.
I did the mileage for 2019. It was (!and is) pain to document every mileage, but it was well worth doing mileage even on gas guzzling vehicles.
Yeah. That is why I was asking. Ev with mileage deduction would probably a good accounting.
[Driver]
Wow. This thread really ran away.
I guess that's what I get for mentioning religion.
That's not what the conversation is about. Michael Moore's latest film is basically what are conservatives have been saying about the renewable energy market for years and the Renewables supporters are furious about it. Basically like he switched sides.
I can't comment on the Tesla hate, as I genuinely do not understand that, even a little bit.
There's plenty of criticism to be leveled at some renewable energy technologies, and a lot of advocates oversell them.
But it's no surprise that Moore would change to championing a point of view that criticizes the left since he was essentially disinvited from being one of the left's superstars a few years ago.
Now that his star has faded and he can no longer make a buck selling "documentaries" to liberals, he's trying to buck up his fame and fortune to grifting conservatives.
Bottom line is that if you want to argue actual policy and the issues around renewable energy, I'm all in favor.
But citing a michael moore movie to make lyour arguments is just a complete money after.
I am all up for the job, as long as smelly companies like Purina (near I70 and Steele), and WM (near Commerce City) building factory right next to my house.
That purina smell is HORRIBLE!
Dear Gov Polis,
please tweet Siracha sauce company and have them move to Boulder CO. There will be more jobs created. :D
https://www.industryweek.com/the-economy/regulations/article/21962927/city-drops-lawsuit-to-close-sriracha-hot-sauce-factory
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-26975852
Since Purina has been there since 1930, the outskirts of Denver have changed quite a bit. There's also been a smelly refinery in Commerce City since 1930.
Just sayin'.
I might be wrong, but I believe Purina is STILL staying despite of I70 expansion.
buffalobo
05-17-2020, 00:17
Why shouldn't they?
buffalobo
05-17-2020, 00:24
Wow. This thread really ran away.
I guess that's what I get for mentioning religion.Looks like post #36 when Jer reported Elon will grace Texas instead of Colorado. Kinda made thread moot so...
Elon moving Tesla to Colorado was likely never in the cards. It was just Polis trying to get some good press by riding Elon's coat tails.
Why shouldn't they?
Many residents thought purina was very close to i70.
The US Department of Energy has a website where they break down the downstream carbon emissions of pure EVs and Hybrids, compared to traditional cars. You can look at it per state.
Kind of a neat website.
https://afdc.energy.gov/vehicles/electric_emissions.html
It's worth noting that according to this analysis, EVs are responsible for fewer emissions even in heavily coal-dependent states like West Virginia.
Hypothetically speaking if Tesla moves to CO, I think North of henderson would work great.
Cheap
I76
FedEx and ups hub near.
Hypothetically speaking if Tesla moves to CO, I think North of henderson would work great.
Cheap
I76
FedEx and ups hub near.
Better off closer to the Rolla railhead.
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