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Bailey Guns
08-04-2020, 11:24
Holy crap! This was a massive explosion caught on video. This page has a couple of videos from different locations. The shock wave is incredible, especially in the video that's lower down the page. As far as I know they haven't determined the cause yet.
https://www.foxnews.com/world/explosion-lebanon-capital-beirut
There are some videos and stories on YouTube as well.
Someone smoking in the shitters?
hollohas
08-04-2020, 12:04
That sure doesn't look like a conventional explosion or accidental explosion.
The explosion happened in the port filled with shipping containers.
How many terrorists novels include shipping containers with bombs? Was it a shipping container intended for somewhere else or was Beirut it's destination...? One has to wonder.
A lot more than the 10 deaths the media is reporting. There are videos of trees laid over and cars tossed about like toys.
Damage is being reported 10km away from the explosion.
The color of the smoke reminded me of one time when a rocket exploded at Cape Canaveral and all the fuel was burning up.
Maybe a tanker in the port?
Sounds like a fireworks warehouse. In some videos, you can see the firecrackers going off before big kaboom
hollohas
08-04-2020, 12:21
The airport 6 miles away is reporting a partial roof collapse. That would take a whole bunch of fireworks...
BPTactical
08-04-2020, 12:24
Big BadaBoom
Bailey Guns
08-04-2020, 12:32
I saw little spots of light (looked like camera flashes) inside the smoke prior to the explosion. After reading it was possibly related to a location where fireworks were stored it made sense seeing those flashes. But, yeah...that's a metric shit-ton of fireworks making a blast that big.
Fireworks on top maybe
A bomb plant on the bottom
Fireworks on top maybe
A bomb plant on the bottom
a "bomb plant" or "A bomb" plant? [tinhat][tinhat][Flower]
ETA: Before you get your flamethrowers out, I was just playing with the words...
BushMasterBoy
08-04-2020, 12:48
Port of Beirut warehouse destroyed is what I see from various videos. I'm gonna guess somebody blew up some rockets used for terror. Ammunition going off before the rocket propellant ignites. Probably was a real nice stash of weapons.
https://www.dni.gov/nctc/groups/hizballah.html
82557
Have they blamed Israel yet?[LOL]
hollohas
08-04-2020, 13:52
Who knows what it was, but I wouldn't bet a penny that it was fireworks.
Fireworks storage places have gone up before. They have MANY more smaller explosions and even some that make it into the air and can clearly be seen as fireworks. They don't just all explode at the same moment sending a shockwave for miles. They carry on for a bit.
Flashes maybe small arms munitions popping off? I agree with bushmasterboy there.
That was either some sort of munitions depot or there was a large weapon of some sort.
I too have seen the reports that it was a weapons facility.
I've also seen some reports that there may have been some ballistic missile development going on at that location. <--- That sounds like something that could result in this sort of explosion.
hollohas
08-04-2020, 13:53
Have they blamed Israel yet?[LOL]Israel announced within minutes that it wasn't them..
hollohas
08-04-2020, 13:57
People 150 miles away in Cyprus say they heard it.
Israel announced within minutes that it wasn't them..
He who smelt it dealt it?
hollohas
08-04-2020, 14:06
He who smelt it dealt it?Haha. Perhaps.
BushMasterBoy
08-04-2020, 14:30
Apparently Hezbollah has supposedly quite a large rocket inventory. We will probably never get a accurate forensics report on this incident. I'm sure a good photo interpreter could calculate what the materials were, from the explosions crater. My personal opinion is these were rockets/missiles made in another country and arrived in Beirut by ship. I'm just glad they did not get deployed. The building next to the warehouse was grain silos with a capacity of 120,000 tons of grain. So besides the damage to the city, the largest supply of food is gone. The gold market reacted by pushing gold prices way over $2000.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fateh-110 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fateh-110)
https://missilethreat.csis.org/country/hezbollahs-rocket-arsenal/
Videos:
https://i.imgur.com/lYaQRl0.mp4
https://i.imgur.com/AbkKNKn.mp4
https://i.imgur.com/12ipPDc.mp4
https://i.imgur.com/3aaehG6.mp4
https://i.imgur.com/CdnadSz.mp4
Bailey Guns
08-04-2020, 14:51
The vapor cloud is amazing.
BPTactical
08-04-2020, 15:39
Allegedly 2700 tons of Ammonium Nitrate were stored in close proximity to fireworks.
Ooops.
Watch how it tears apart the adjacent buildings (especially in the third video: https://i.imgur.com/12ipPDc.mp4). I don't understand how the person filming in the first video is still alive.
ETA: Before you get your flamethrowers out, I was just playing with the words...
LOL
Maybe one of their wayward children touched off a Bic for his cigarette.
Last I checked, no gore, just some bloody people, so don't fear the link but don't browse elsewhere either. Lots of compilations of video's.
https://www.bestgore.com/murder/aftermath-massive-explosion-near-port-area-beirut-lebanon/
No way in hell that was fireworks
BushMasterBoy
08-04-2020, 16:35
If diesel leaked on the fertilizer it would sort of blow like that. But the orange mushroom cloud, rocket fuel. MSM is going to feed us BS. I'd say the rockets came from Russia, Iran or North Korea(China). The target was Israel. The owners were Hezbollah, 10% of Lebanons .gov
I would not be the least surprised if Iran has small(tactical) nuclear weapons. Gonna be a shit show now, big excuse for a Middle East war. Russia has always had a plan to invade Middle East oilfields since the start of the Cold War. Fertilizer, my ass!
https://www.livescience.com/6413-fertilizer-bombs-work.html
hollohas
08-04-2020, 16:42
Checkout the building on the right in this video. Gets shredded. So does the cameraman by the looks of it.
https://mobile.twitter.com/ItsSkagg/status/1290756921092431874
Checkout the building on the right in this video. Gets shredded. So does the cameraman by the looks of it.
https://mobile.twitter.com/ItsSkagg/status/1290756921092431874
Ouch
theGinsue
08-04-2020, 18:01
I'm amazed at some of the comments here. Everyone knows, or should know since our masters, er lying news agencies, um totally honest mainstream media tells us that the Lebanese people are absolutely non-violent, peaceful people and that the lies of Hezbollah are nothing more that some made up boogeyman by the right-wing conspiracy theorists.
This was nothing more than a simple fireworks factory (so these genteel people can celebrate) accidentally blowing up. If we've told you once, we've told you a million times that M80's are just too dangerous. In hindsight, putting the fireworks factory next to an ammonium nitrate storage plant (used solely for agricultural purposes) wasn't the best of ideas or planning.
Shheesh. Where do you people get your silly ideas.
[If you couldn't tell, this post was made dripping with sarcasm]
If diesel leaked on the fertilizer it would sort of blow like that. But the orange mushroom cloud, rocket fuel. MSM is going to feed us BS.
Well, they saw yellow/orange smoke from nitrogen dioxide in Texas City before that ship blew; possibly much bigger explosion than this one.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texas_City_disaster
That reddish-brown cloud reminds me of a nitrazine type of rocket fuel burning. Please don't hassle me about chemistry, my neural linkages aren't what they used to be.....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ycRVAcZC5R4
Bailey Guns
08-04-2020, 19:00
I'm amazed at some of the comments here. Everyone knows, or should know since our masters, er lying news agencies, um totally honest mainstream media tells us that the Lebanese people are absolutely non-violent, peaceful people and that the lies of Hezbollah are nothing more that some made up boogeyman by the right-wing conspiracy theorists.
This was nothing more than a simple fireworks factory (so these genteel people can celebrate) accidentally blowing up. If we've told you once, we've told you a million times that M80's are just too dangerous. In hindsight, putting the fireworks factory next to an ammonium nitrate storage plant (used solely for agricultural purposes) wasn't the best of ideas or planning.
Shheesh. Where do you people get your silly ideas.
[If you couldn't tell, this post was made dripping with sarcasm]
Maybe it was a Hezbollah fireworks factory. The kind they like to entertain the Israelis with.
Bailey Guns
08-04-2020, 19:12
Chemical explosion in Henderson, NV. The big one starts at 4:30.
https://youtu.be/QJQlbLshax0?t=268
hollohas
08-04-2020, 20:23
That NV was pretty darn big. That video led to another, first video here is supposedly 800 tons of ammonium nitrate that went up in a shipping yard in China.
https://youtu.be/u5SF4SlqNDQ
Great-Kazoo
08-04-2020, 20:56
Maybe it was a Hezbollah fireworks factory. The kind they like to entertain the Israelis with.
Only if they find an empty vest or two, scattered about the city.
Big BadaBoom
LIKE
The shock wave creating a cloud as it moved away from the explosion was pretty impressive.
Reminded me of Pepcon 1988:
http://youtu.be/_KuGizBjDXo
Chemical explosion in Henderson, NV. The big one starts at 4:30.
https://youtu.be/QJQlbLshax0?t=268
Beat me to it before I could get 4 pages into this.
Videos:
https://i.imgur.com/lYaQRl0.mp4
https://i.imgur.com/AbkKNKn.mp4
https://i.imgur.com/12ipPDc.mp4
https://i.imgur.com/3aaehG6.mp4
https://i.imgur.com/CdnadSz.mp4
That first video is a closer seat to the entertainment than I'd want!
BushMasterBoy
08-04-2020, 22:33
A 300 foot crater was made in the dock. Basically a big chunk is water again. That explains the white ball of the explosion. The white ball blast is seawater vaporized. If a tanker full of oil or LNG was there it would have been a much larger blast. As for the chemistry, a fuel has to be added to the ammonium nitrate to explode.
So the official story is the fireworks breached a fuel supply and flooded the ammonium nitrate? Hahaha
82558
82559
Saw some nasty images of people killed by the overpressure. The death toll has to go much higher.
That's a shitload of Tannerite.
Is CNN blaming Trump yet?
hollohas
08-05-2020, 06:07
Here another view of the crater.
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200805/559e2748db10bbb5af031d9a8f9875fc.jpg
hollohas
08-05-2020, 07:03
It's kinda strange to see the grain silo still partially standing next to a crater. I'm not completely surprised though because that is A LOT of mass when full, it seems to have absorbed a lot of the blast.
Even more surprising to me is that the buildings on the left side of the silo, as seen in this picture, are gone. I would think they would have been protected by the still partially standing silo that would have redirected the blast around them...but nope. They're gone too.
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200805/6111ce36207f88c21d091c814cef18c4.jpg
Holy big BOOM BOOM batman. Now that was an explosion. Incredible...
A 300 foot crater was made in the dock. Basically a big chunk is water again. That explains the white ball of the explosion. The white ball blast is seawater vaporized. If a tanker full of oil or LNG was there it would have been a much larger blast. As for the chemistry, a fuel has to be added to the ammonium nitrate to explode.
So the official story is the fireworks breached a fuel supply and flooded the ammonium nitrate? Hahaha
82558
82559
I don't believe you need anything more than the ammonium nitrate and gobs of heat. That place in waco (actually, West,, TX) popped when a fire got into their ammonium nitrate storage. Color of the cloud was nowhere near orange though.
newracer
08-05-2020, 08:52
https://twitter.com/jimbcbs4/status/1290839608809250816?s=20
My 2 cents on hyper paranoid tin foil hat theory.
[hyper paranoid tin foil hat theory.]
It is Japanses operative retaliating on Lebanon for not handing Carlos Ghosn back to Japan.
[/hyper paranoid tin foil hat theory]
DO NOT CLICK THE LINK IF YOU ARE SENSITIVE TO GORE (NSFW)
Victims of the blast: https://twitter.com/forreddit4/status/1290729547550404608?s=21
You can see how the pressure from the blast actually pushed in the sides of the car as the shock wave moved through from passenger side to drivers side.
.455_Hunter
08-05-2020, 10:17
At least their suffering was minimal.
Allegedly 2700 tons of Ammonium Nitrate were stored in close proximity to fireworks.
For reference, using a conversion factor found online (so it must be true) that's a 1.1 Kiloton explosion.
The Trinity blast was 20 Kilotons.
The conventional explosive test before Trinity was only 0.1 Kilotons.
That thing was a small nuke in power.
O2
https://www.thesun.ie/wp-content/uploads/sites/3/2020/08/KH-COMPOSITE-BEIRUT-BEFORE.jpg?strip=all&quality=100&w=1200&h=800&crop=1
Amazing images. If you look closely you can see the left seawall in the after photo has been bulged outward. The soil was moved from the crater all the way across the port facility.
If you look closely you can see the left seawall in the after photo has been bulged outward.
Also looks like the small ship that was in the corner, seaward of the building was turned almost 90 degrees and tossed up on dry land to the right.
O2
Martinjmpr
08-05-2020, 12:36
The infuriating thing is that the AN has been sitting in that warehouse for 6 years! All while the bureaucrats have been pointing fingers are each other and saying "it's not my job."
I don't understand why if nobody wanted the AN, it wasn't loaded onto a barge, taken out into the Mediterranean and dumped in the water.
A bride was getting video/photos done when it occurred:
https://i.imgur.com/Exwa1fz.mp4
BushMasterBoy
08-05-2020, 13:23
If you look closely, you can see the grain silos have a conveyor belt running from the end of the pier. This conveyor belt moves the grain from ships to the storage silos. If dust from the grain is allowed to mix with the ammonium nitrate, you will definitely have an explosive mixture. The satellite photos are 6 months apart and probably a commercial satellite company product.
As far as my previous posts about terrorist munitions, they maybe wrong. But it does seem the port tended to store explosive materials all in the same area. It has been reported that some local officials have been placed under house arrest. It is also been reported that Hezbollah had the most control of the Port of Beirut.
Pic below clearly shows the conveyor to the silos from a ship docked.
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.455_Hunter
08-05-2020, 13:31
A bride was getting video/photos done when it occurred:
https://i.imgur.com/Exwa1fz.mp4
Interesting that the phrase we know all to well was uttered almost reflexively by the cameraman as the shockwave precursors sounded in his ear.
82563
Right picture: Winner of "Least required labeling of the year" award.
O2
BushMasterBoy
08-05-2020, 14:31
This aerial video shows what appears to be wheat scattered from the blast. SECDEF made a statement that he believes it was an accident. POTUS said generals told him it was a bomb. I'm gonna go with my initial impression, until proved wrong. Fireworks+munitions+AN. I have worked in Port Canaveral before, I have seen some things...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8CEXh6jgGCY
This is pretty incredible. You can see the roof of a car instantly collapse from the overpressure
https://mobile.twitter.com/JakeGodin/status/1291048625779474433
I wonder if grain dust played any role
I wonder if the grain elevators acted as a deflector, bouncing shock waves back in the direction of the explosion, causing more damage in one direction than another.
Right picture: Winner of "Least required labeling of the year" award.
O2
Yeah, I saw that label and then my mind went, "Are you sure?"
BushMasterBoy
08-06-2020, 00:19
I think once the ammonium nitrate turns liquid due to a fire, the explosion occurs. The stuff melts at 337.8 Fahrenheit according to USCG. Then it decomposes rapidly supplying nitrous oxide to the combustible black powder fireworks.
"During a fire in a facility where ammonium nitrate is present, the ammonium nitrate can become hot and molten which makes the material very sensitive to shock and detonation, particularly if it becomes contaminated with incompatible material such as combustibles, flammable liquids, acids, chlorates, chlorides, sulfur, metals, charcoal, sawdust, etc. If a molten mass becomes confined (e.g., in drains, pipes or machinery), it can explode."
EPA/OSHA/ATF; Chemical Advisory: Safe Storage, Handling, and Management of Ammonium Nitrate EPA 550-S-13-001, p.6 (August 2013). Available from, as of November 21, 2013: http://www.epa.gov/oem/docs/chem/AN_advisory.pdf
Source:
https://pubchem.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/compound/Ammonium-nitrate#section=Other-Experimental-Properties
Delfuego
08-06-2020, 10:15
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Delfuego
08-06-2020, 10:18
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hollohas
08-06-2020, 10:24
Tons of VERY interesting backstory here.
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/he-abandoned-deadly-cargo-meet-mysterious-businessman-center-beirut-blast-saga
in short, material originated in Russia, was intended to go to Mozambique and Russian man was paid $1M to transport it. Ship was not ship-shape and crew was mutinous. It entered Beirut where it was confiscated and transferred off. The Port tried unsuccessfully for 7 years to get the government to do something with it, even offering it to farmers. But nothing. Now the Port's officials have been put under house arrest for negligence.
And then later, more warnings, which apparently are in writing in legal documents (https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/05/world/middleeast/beirut-explosion-ship.html?smid=tw-share):
“In view of the serious danger posed by keeping this shipment in the warehouses in an inappropriate climate,” Shafik Marei, the director of Lebanese customs, wrote in May 2016, “we repeat our request to demand the maritime agency to re-export the materials immediately.”
Biggest non-military blast in history...
.455_Hunter
08-06-2020, 10:36
The whole thing reads like a plot for a Tom Clancy novel by just adding a nefarious source for the ignition.
BushMasterBoy
08-06-2020, 10:38
First crop circle I have ever seen with a tree in the middle of it. Lebanon's flag has a tree in the middle of it. And of course the glyph is in a wheat field.
Links below of new crop circle and Lebanons flag...
http://cropcircleconnector.com/2020/Potterne/Potterne2020a.html
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lebanon#/media/File:Flag_of_Lebanon.svg
Looks like a perfect match.
Bailey Guns
08-06-2020, 11:31
Why would a farmer leave a tree like that in the middle of a field?
Why would a farmer leave a tree like that in the middle of a field?
For a reference point of making his crop circle to draw in tourists and generate more income.
Did crop circles start happening around the time the government started paying farmers not to farm?
Bailey Guns
08-06-2020, 12:28
For a reference point of making his crop circle to draw in tourists and generate more income.
That makes sense.
Bailey Guns
08-06-2020, 12:30
Did crop circles start happening around the time the government started paying farmers not to farm?
I believe farm subsidies pre-date crop circles by several decades. Farm subsidies started back in the late 20s or early 30s I think. Depression-era thing.
Did crop circles start happening around the time the government started paying farmers not to farm?
Some claim evidence of them as far back as the 1600's, but the earliest examples were cut and not bent.
It wasn't until the early/mid 1900's that the modern variant was recorded in England, and was very simplistic.
I believe farm subsidies pre-date crop circles by several decades. Farm subsidies started back in the late 20s or early 30s I think. Depression-era thing.
Yeah the timeline didn't match up when I looked it up.
Some claim evidence of them as far back as the 1600's, but the earliest examples were cut and not bent.
It wasn't until the early/mid 1900's that the modern variant was recorded in England, and was very simplistic.
Yeah read the Wikipedia.
BushMasterBoy
08-06-2020, 13:09
I still think the aliens described in this video are coming to devastate the earth. The Senate has ordered the DOD to provide a report of all extraterrestrial phenomena gathered by the US military.
The Beirut explosion was minuscule compared to an alien attack. I always wondered what my last days on earth would be like.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Q0NjXqAy8M
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UNsvgbpLMnQ
Allegedly shows a missile hitting the silo, not for weak at heart.
https://www.instagram.com/p/CDjaQINBH70/?fbclid=IwAR072sHABaTObTRicmRTHtpl8Owp0dOU5I8bfleH YtMA9R-N3vPC6g3pR5Y
https://scontent.fapa1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/117259056_1472924286213333_2035553538878070174_n.j pg?_nc_cat=111&_nc_sid=8bfeb9&_nc_ohc=u3pdsnP6nlMAX-JjwMM&_nc_ht=scontent.fapa1-1.fna&oh=df78cdd9dd8fc93d2e712665f9c9a55d&oe=5F5057E4
https://scontent.fapa1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/117206460_1472924422879986_7000294901505017846_n.j pg?_nc_cat=108&_nc_sid=8bfeb9&_nc_ohc=4eyhm1Ge66MAX96tGeZ&_nc_ht=scontent.fapa1-1.fna&oh=93c2b3c0956cd42b8788339c42b8f52f&oe=5F5298C8
That would certainly change the narrative, wouldn't it.
I wonder if the grain elevators acted as a deflector, bouncing shock waves back in the direction of the explosion, causing more damage in one direction than another.
I was thinking the same thing, like the principles behind shaped charges.
where'd BMB's post after mine go?
BushMasterBoy
08-06-2020, 14:29
I pulled the post. This is the replacement. Definitely the work of professionals.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dOOoClKzv4I
Professional military, or video editors?
BPTactical
08-06-2020, 15:02
Gonna go with fake
BushMasterBoy
08-06-2020, 15:08
One of the earlier versions of FLIR for iPhone? Price has dropped somewhat after the introduction of this technology.
I think Trump was right, it was a bomb. F-35 with a GBU/53 is what I wanted to post when I first heard of this incident. But I had absolutely no proof. The F-35 could be 45 km away and still hit the target.
https://www.flir.com/products/flir-one-gen-3/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GBU-53/B_StormBreaker
Delfuego
08-06-2020, 15:11
Professional military, or video editors?:) The latter
If the missile streak wasn't edited in, all they did was put the raw video in an editor and shift colors so certain things would pop more than others. It's the same principle as flipping between white hot, black hot, color, red, green, etc. on FLIR depending on the time of day, ambient temp, what you're viewing, etc.
Based on the direction of the video, it would seem that the missile, if it wasn't edited in, came from the S/SW. One only needs to draw a line to draw a conclusion.
anyone noticed the two ships docked at the site before and after the explosion? I would have thought they would have shown more damage.
BushMasterBoy
08-06-2020, 15:27
I don't think the GBU has any propulsion. It just flies like a glider. It does have some extremely sophisticated navigation systems. It is noted for being able to see through smoke, bad weather etc.
I really want one of those FLIR gadgets now. Anybody here got one? Are they that good? Might be handy in a riot.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=udVEvS3THU8
hollohas
08-06-2020, 15:32
I think Trump was right, it was a bomb. F-35 with a GBU/53 is what I wanted to post when I first heard of this incident. But I had absolutely no proof. The F-35 could be 45 km away and still hit the target.
https://www.flir.com/products/flir-one-gen-3/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GBU-53/B_StormBreaker
I looked up some videos of MOAB (GBU-43/B) blasts the same day it happened too for comparison.
A MOAB blast by itself is small beans compared to the explosion in Beirut. A strombreaker would be even smaller.
Stormbreaker PLUS 2,700 of ammonium nitrate..maybe. Why send a huge warhead when there's plenty of explosive material just sitting there already?
BushMasterBoy
08-06-2020, 16:12
Whatever really happened there, the precious metals prices are rocketing straight up.
On a positive note, they have new beach front property.
Professional military, or video editors?
zackly
Martinjmpr
08-06-2020, 18:34
On a positive note, they have new beach front property.
Yeah, scattered all over the city...
<MADDOG>
08-06-2020, 19:19
Sorry guys and gals...There is too much info to strap on a tin foil hat in this case.
Ammonium nitrate becomes unstable over time, especially in a humid environment. I would like to pull up backing evidence, but comunistube has this insistence all over, and I am too lazy.
Ask yourself why did this happen? And keep drilling down..
My belief: negligence on epic proportions.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jzDC3iKbTzY
(edited for somewhat coherence and video)
Bailey Guns
08-06-2020, 20:11
I agree. I think someone was negligent and/or lazy and didn't do their job. After looking at and listening to evidence it sounds like exactly what they initially reported. The only question in my mind right now is what caused the fire.
BushMasterBoy
08-06-2020, 20:38
I read a early article that mentioned someone was welding and that started it. I have read so many viewpoints, I can't wrap my head around it. From what I can tell, the ammonium nitrate melted and went down the drain. According to the .gov reports when it melts and gets into pipes and combines with various other substances, it has tendency to detonate very easily.
hollohas
08-07-2020, 06:49
There are enough details about the negligence, including official documents linked in the zerohedge article, that I think that's pretty likely the truth.
That said. The truth is so bad the citizens there are pissed and protesting their shit government for killing so many people and destroying a city.
So, enter the narrative change. NOW the president there says, maybe it was a bomb or rocket....
gotta deflect the blame.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8602677/Beirut-explosion-Politician-blames-Hezbollah-government.html
ruthabagah
08-07-2020, 10:03
the Lebanese president just asked France, a strategic partner, to identify if there were planes or missiles in the area...
Those who know wouldn't talk even if there was no missile. If there was, they'd have noted launch, weapon type launch signature, likely targets, and impact in real time. Might have even had a stiff drink when they got off shift and given their wife a strained grin, saying, "Nothing babe, today just seemed extra long. Crazy about Beirut, huh?"
Those who don't know, guess.
You can have 10 years of documented issues and warnings and clear evidence that someone's sitting on 2700 pounds of kablooey, and there's still going to be a lot of people suggesting it's a big conspiracy with the US government or the "juice" or something. Other posters have already addressed that.
Absent something with a credible basis, any further conspiracy suggestions may be removed here to keep the thread on track (this isn't the place to propose unfounded, zany theories). If they are removed, it is simply to not derail the discussion, not a personal affront to any users posting them.
ETA: Factual discussion as new aspects emerge is not what I'm talking about.
ETA2: It appears the thread mostly self corrected in the later posts.
JohnnyDrama
08-07-2020, 17:13
It's Friday y'all! I took some time to review the footage taken by people in Beirut during the explosion. I'm amazed at the people who moved to try to get better footage. My first thought was to cover and grab my balls.
Six years is a long time for something to sit in warehouse. I wonder how many people were cognizant of what was in that warehouse until this past week. I can see it being a topic for a while but then gets pushed under the rug as other more pressing things come up.
Bailey Guns
08-07-2020, 17:48
I can see it being a topic for a while but then gets pushed under the rug as other more pressing things come up.
Yep, like...SQUIRREL!
More information as to the cause of the explosion:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v0-EOx0w9uo
SideShow Bob
08-08-2020, 21:44
SS Grandcamp, Apr. 1947 in port at Texas City. Approx same amount of ammonium nitrate aboard ignited. Similar devastation to the surroundings as the Beirut explosion. The ship caught fire just before the explosion.
SS Grandcamp, Apr. 1947 in port at Texas City. Approx same amount of ammonium nitrate aboard ignited. Similar devastation to the surroundings as the Beirut explosion. The ship caught fire just before the explosion.
Saw a program about that once. As I recall a nearby ship had a big load of balls of yarn/string/something, and the explosion blew flaming balls of yarn/whatever all over the city - starting scores of fires.
Saw a program about that once. As I recall a nearby ship had a big load of balls of yarn/string/something, and the explosion blew flaming balls of yarn/whatever all over the city - starting scores of fires.
Is that where Jerry got his lyrics from “great balls of fire “
SuperiorDG
08-09-2020, 13:42
https://www.newsflare.com/video/371810/unseen-footage-shows-moment-of-beirut-explosion-in-4k-slow-motion?fbclid=IwAR3g_fj1XU5vajulh3303f6ttR-7ni6w-qUoHCBcj9lX60FaeU08lN1yxQc
https://www.newsflare.com/video/371810/unseen-footage-shows-moment-of-beirut-explosion-in-4k-slow-motion?fbclid=IwAR3g_fj1XU5vajulh3303f6ttR-7ni6w-qUoHCBcj9lX60FaeU08lN1yxQc
Thanks for that 4K slo-mo video link! Amazing watching the shockwave advance going through the buildings.
Bailey Guns
08-09-2020, 14:19
Incredible.
SideShow Bob
08-09-2020, 15:03
Daymn !
It looked to be several times higher than the tallest building in the video. Amazing.
Impressive for sure. Looking at some of the buildings probably a k away blowing out the glass on the opposite end of the blast is amazing...
There's going to be a lot of people with superficial scars even a long ways from that.
I heard 300,000 folks were rendered homeless because their homes are now unlivable.... that’s gotta be worse than the superficial injuries in my opinion.
https://www.newsflare.com/video/371810/unseen-footage-shows-moment-of-beirut-explosion-in-4k-slow-motion?fbclid=IwAR3g_fj1XU5vajulh3303f6ttR-7ni6w-qUoHCBcj9lX60FaeU08lN1yxQc
They must have edited the missile out.
Reports out that the new swimming hole is 141 feet deep....
A bit ridiculous
Aloha_Shooter
08-10-2020, 13:03
Two things struck me on this. The first was the numerous "sparkles" in the initial cloud which seemed like individual munitions going off then the effect of the shockwave just tearing through all the buildings between the dock and the camera like they were papier mache. Utterly incredible to see an event like this unfold in slow motion in high definition. Am sorry for those who were killed or injured by the blast as well as those who are homeless or destitute after this.
Did anybody else notice the camera shake after the explosion and before the shockwave hit? The explosion apparently registered like 3.5 earthquake. Wouldn't surprise me if the explosion traveled faster through the ground than it did through the air.
Here it is on YouTube:
http://youtu.be/SkIYjNGiaoA
Even with the slo-mo, you can also playback even slower at 1/4 speed.
I thought the camera shake was the person behind the camera dropping to the ground.
The glass is breaking on buildings ahead of the 'cloud of water shock wave', so the actual shock wave front might be invisible to the casual observer.
I think that shake went through the ground.
The velocity of that blast moves through solid objects much faster than it does through air. You would definitely feel it in your feet before it raped your eardrums.
We going to start discussing primary and secondary waves now?
Like it has been said, this thing reads like a chapter of a good action novel.
Sounds like a decades old group of corrupt government officials have been ignoring this 'storage problem' for too long. Now the population is F'd,
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Like it has been said, this thing reads like a chapter of a good action novel.
Sounds like a decades old group of corrupt government officials have been ignoring this 'storage problem' for too long. Now the population is F'd,
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And now the politicians have just bailed on their people leaving them to deal with it. They must be beating feet to get over here and join our government.
Bailey Guns
08-11-2020, 05:49
I read in an article somewhere and it was either the person interviewed or the "journalist" described the devastation as looking like the cliche "war zone".
My immediate reaction was.... "Well FFS...it's Beirut."
Yeah, I think they would be used to big explosions by now....
Or maybe it's a plot to revitalize downtown Beirut with a new beach, swimming hole, and cheap pre-demolished property.
A perfect ploy for foreign aid to re-gentrify downtown Beirut. I'm waiting for Klinger to show up....
Aloha_Shooter
08-11-2020, 22:15
I'm waiting for Klinger to show up....
Doubt he can get as good deli there as his hometown -- then again, if he could get them to ship to Korea during the war, Beirut probably isn't as much of a stretch ...
Turns out over half of the ammonium nitrate was missing, it was weapon grade (35% nitrogen), the ship was owned by a guy in Cyprus, and he owed $1 million to a bank that launders money for Hezbollah.
https://www.spiegel.de/international/world/ties-to-hezbollah-questions-swirl-around-the-cargo-that-destroyed-beirut-a-668b79f4-c4f1-49da-a764-172cc17f162b
BPTactical
08-22-2020, 08:54
Turns out over half of the ammonium nitrate was missing, it was weapon grade (35% nitrogen), the ship was owned by a guy in Cyprus, and he owed $1 million to a bank that launders money for Hezbollah.
https://www.spiegel.de/international/world/ties-to-hezbollah-questions-swirl-around-the-cargo-that-destroyed-beirut-a-668b79f4-c4f1-49da-a764-172cc17f162b
Hmm, whodathunkit?
I think that shake went through the ground.
The velocity of that blast moves through solid objects much faster than it does through air. You would definitely feel it in your feet before it raped your eardrums.
Good point. I wonder what it measured on the Richter scale, it should have shown up on someone's seismology equipment.
Good point. I wonder what it measured on the Richter scale, it should have shown up on someone's seismology equipment.
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Great analysis.
https://vimeo.com/479844049
Link: https://vimeo.com/479844049
Batteriesnare
12-12-2020, 10:39
That was outstanding. ^^
kidicarus13
12-12-2020, 10:45
Very interesting. Thanks for posting.
JohnnyDrama
12-12-2020, 11:47
Very interesting video. Thanks.
Delfuego
12-12-2020, 12:18
Very informative.
I found a link to the site, larger video and models.
https://forensic-architecture.org/investigation/beirut-port-explosion
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