Capital stormed etc

[20X11]

But that is the genius of the enemy...How to get the National guard to the Capitol...the National Guard that has been working in retirement homes and is infected with the highly contagious version of the virus...create chaos and have the Gov summon their doom upon themselves.

[BushMasterBoy]

I do solemnly swear that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States.

[buckshotbarlow]

bout friggn time...

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2021/01/15/leftist-activist-among-those-arrested-in-capitol-riot/ (http://https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2021/01/15/leftist-activist-among-those-arrested-in-capitol-riot/)

[MOD: Link fixed - you had an extra "http://" in it]

[tactical_2012]

bout friggn time...
http://https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2021/01/15/leftist-activist-among-those-arrested-in-capitol-riot/

Link doesn't work

[DenverGP]

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2021/01/15/leftist-activist-among-those-arrested-in-capitol-riot/

[DenverGP]

https://www.bizpacreview.com/2021/01/15/lets-burn-this-st-down-leftist-activist-charged-in-capitol-riots-release-damning-fbi-affidavit-1016659

[.455_Hunter]

Sounds like he was a fluffer of the highest order.

[hollohas]

When was the last time the US mobilized 25,000 soldiers to a single city in the span of a week...?

[Wulf202]

When was the last time the US mobilized 25,000 soldiers to a single city in the span of a week...?

Katrina

[hollohas]

KatrinaWere they armed?

When was the last time we deployed 25,000 soldiers into one city that wasn't a disaster area? For other than humanitarian support.

[BushMasterBoy]

The Bonus Army was evicted from Washington D.C in 1935. The Bonus Army was comprised of veterans seeking money. The US Army used tanks and troops against these veterans. Same place, different group of people.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bonus_Army

[Mtneer]

When was the last time we deployed 25,000 soldiers into one city that wasn't a disaster area? For other than humanitarian support.

Well in 1968, there were 14,000 armed soldiers and machine guns mounted on the Capitol steps. But they only had hours to deploy, not a week to prepare. It sure was a disaster area.

[BPTactical]

Funny how the "Defund the Police" crowd are acting now eh?

[Doc45]

Well in 1968, there were 14,000 armed soldiers and machine guns mounted on the Capitol steps. But they only had hours to deploy, not a week to prepare. It sure was a disaster area.

My big sister was enrolled at GW then, I remember going to visit with my folks and how the impact of seeing the troops impacted my WWII vet father. He was very saddened by what he saw.

[hollohas]

Well in 1968, there were 14,000 armed soldiers and machine guns mounted on the Capitol steps. But they only had hours to deploy, not a week to prepare. It sure was a disaster area.

Thanks. I knew about the riots but didn't know the military response was that big then.

[TEAMRICO]

Soooo they bring in troops from all over the state and now from other states and pack them close together in the buildings they were worried about when it came to COVID exposure?
Oh geez.

[crashdown]

Alaska is sending 80 National Guard troops to Washington.....
You lower 48 must be in rough shape if we gotta come help.

[Great-Kazoo]

Imagine IF: All those NG troops, during bidens swearing in.


Turned on every democrat and Arrested them for treason.








one can only hope ;)

[BushMasterBoy]

Jenna Ryan:

Turning to look into the camera, she said: I would ask the president of the United States to give me a pardon.

She is facing prison time!

[FoxtArt]

Imagine IF: All those NG troops, during bidens swearing in.


Turned on every democrat and Arrested them for treason.








one can only hope ;)

Yet the social media participation of young people make it possible to do a decade-long background check on our very thoughts...

Prior generations of governments would've creamed themselves to have such abilities, especially in dark corners of the world.

(TLDR: The NG has been hand-filtered to avoid any "sympathizers" as they call them)

[hollohas]

(TLDR: The NG has been hand-filtered to avoid any "sympathizers" as they call them)

Beat me to it.

There were plenty of sympathizers inside at the Capitol. They couldn't risk that again during the inauguration. Even if virtual.

[battlemidget]

Alaska is sending 80 National Guard troops to Washington.....
You lower 48 must be in rough shape if we gotta come help.

A coalition of the willing. I think VMI should send the corps of cadets to help pull security, it would square nicely with the history.

[MrPrena]

Jenna Ryan:

Turning to look into the camera, she said: I would ask the president of the United States to give me a pardon.

She is facing prison time!

If Gerald Ford or Geoege HW Bush told people to mob themselves into Kremlin, idiots will seriously go in there.


OH WAIT..... FORD NOR HW BUSH WOULD NEVER SAY STUPID ASS SHIT LIKE THAT TO THEIR SUPPORTERS.

[BushMasterBoy]

My real concern is who has the Gold codes. Think about it.

[MrPrena]

Nixon has the Gold code.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nixon_shock#:~:text=The%20Nixon%20shock%20was%20a, international%20convertibility%20of%20the%20United

[Irving]

Think about it.

No!

[Duman]

My real concern is who has the Gold codes. Think about it.

Irving: No!

One of my favorite movie lines, "There's time to think, and then there's a time to act. This is no time for thinking!." John Candy, Armed and Dangerous.

[Gman]

...and having grown up in and around the security guard business, that was a funny movie.

[BushMasterBoy]

Seen today at www.army.mil

84601

[hurley842002]

Seen today at www.army.mil

84601

What?s the issue?


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[BushMasterBoy]

What?s the issue?


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He is a Sikh...Pronounced "Seek"

[Great-Kazoo]

He is a Sikh...Pronounced "Seek"

and?

[bellavite1]

I get it...
Kind of a juvenile slogan, but I get it...
[facepalm]
Those guys deserve better.

[brutal]

A Washington D.C. police officer who was swarmed and beaten by pro-Trump rioters at the U.S. Capitol last week reflected on his harrowing experience.

"If it wasn't my job I would have done that for free. It was absolutely my pleasure to crush a white nationalist insurrection," Daniel Hodges told NBC News on Thursday. "I'm glad I was in a position to be able to help. We'll do it as many times as it takes."

https://www.newsweek.com/dc-cop-pinned-mob-says-it-was-my-pleasure-crush-white-nationalist-insurrection-1562144

Anyone else think this is out of line for an officer sworn to uphold the constitution, server and protect and all that jazz to say this publicly?

He's certainly entitled to his political opinion, but what proof of "white nationalism" does he have as a front line peace officer?

Can you only imagine if any one of the many LEO protecting assets and personnel from the BLM or Antifa said the same?

I was surprised the comment wasn't posted on reddit/politics by one of the kooks there.

[Irving]

Well, free speech and all.

[hollohas]

.

"If it wasn't my job I would have done that for free. It was absolutely my pleasure to crush a white nationalist insurrection," Daniel Hodges told NBC News on Thursday.



Well, that guy is an ignorant SOB.

Riot? Sure.

White nationalist insurrection? Not remotely.

I seriously thought this was satire until I saw the link. He thinks he "crushed an insurrection"? Ha! Only thing that got crushed was him.

[Delfuego]

Don't cherry pick half of what was in the very very short article.


Daniel Hodges told NBC News on Thursday. Hodges was captured in a video being crushed in a doorway by a violent mob. He said they then stole his equipment and beat him. "They ripped my mask off. Stole my equipment. Beat me up. Sprayed me with everything," he said.


D.C. Police Officer Michael Fanone told CNN Friday that a group of rioters beat him to the ground, stripped him of his gear, and threatened his life. "Some guys started getting a hold of my gun and they were screaming out, 'Kill him with his own gun,'" Fanone said.

Let's try to walk a mile in these gentlemen's shoes first. I cannot imagine what it was like for those officers that day.

[MrPrena]

[Duplicate

[MrPrena]

Seen today at www.army.mil

84601


What?s the issue?



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He is a Sikh...Pronounced "Seek"


and?

Question is does he also speak Hindi, Punjabi or Sanskrit?

[Gman]

I get it...
Kind of a juvenile slogan, but I get it...
[facepalm]
Those guys deserve better.
Yep. The Sikhs I've known have been really cool. They are a warrior people that defend the weak from tyranny, injustice ​and forced conversion. The US Army has made recent moves to help Sikhs join and still fulfill their religious practices.

[clodhopper]

Don't cherry pick half of what was in the very very short article.





Let's try to walk a mile in these gentlemen's shoes first. I cannot imagine what it was like for those officers that day.

I would agree that the fellow deserves some time, space and slack. However... just cause you got beat up doesn't mean the crowd was white supremacists. More likely a 15 minutes of fame moment and white supremacy is the current trigger word to get on the news.

[hollohas]

Let's try to walk a mile in these gentlemen's shoes first. I cannot imagine what it was like for those officers that day.

I'm sure it was absolutely awful. The guy got hurt and that truly sucks. People can die in mobs like that and there is no doubt that crossed his mind while it was happening. I'm sorry that happened to him and the others. I'm sure it was very traumatic for some of them. I don't wish that on anyone.

But to pretend to be some hard ass that "crushed an insurrection" and race bait to the media, that makes him a douchebag regardless of what it was like in his shoes. Let's not confuse what happened to him with his bullshit, race baiting hard guy nonsense after the fact. Getting assualted by a mob doesn't make his comments after the fact off limits to criticism.

[BushMasterBoy]

The conspirators : a study of the coup d'tat by D.J. Goodspeed...Great Book!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=270F8s5TEKY

[clodhopper]

Quick question. The reporters that followed the mob into the capitol to report on the happenings.... aren't they also trespassing and subject to the legal repercussions of the action?

I am kinda torn on the issue. Sure there may have been some reporters already in the capitol to report on the vote counts who stuck around to report on the later happenings. But Bushmasterboy's video shows that specific reporter entering with the crowd. While I am not on board with reporters having to be registered and badged, I also have an issue with someone claiming to be a reporter cause they have a phone or camera despite clearly being a part of the wrongdoers just to avoid penalties.

[BushMasterBoy]

The law considers the intent, the reporters have no intent to damage the building or harm any person. The freedom of the press is open to broad interpretation.

[RblDiver]

The law considers the intent, the reporters have no intent to damage the building or harm any person. The freedom of the press is open to broad interpretation.

However, there have been cases of people just witnessing events being disciplined too. I remember back at CSU, we were told that if there was a riot or the like, you could be disciplined for just watching it, even if not being an active participant. Something like they are looking for an audience, you're providing that audience, which just encourages them more.

Thus, the press could be "encouraging" further activity by being there, that sort of thing.

[clodhopper]

The law considers the intent, the reporters have no intent to damage the building or harm any person. The freedom of the press is open to broad interpretation.

Ok. So what if 90% of the people who entered the capitol that day claimed they were reporters with a camera (cell phones count nowadays...)? Remember, many/most didnt do anything more than wander around and take selfies and later went home. Does that fit in your broad interpretation of reporting staff?

[theGinsue]

While never officially charged, Mike Wallace and 2 members of his crew of '60 Minutes' were "detained" for a period of time back in 1986 when they joined a group of individuals who broke into a missile silo site in MO (I used to drive past the very silo site every day on my way to college back in the early 80's). https://apnews.com/article/385d58762c1642f8afdea592fab75e84

Personally, I don't care if you're an active participant in the violence or just going along to "document the activity", if your presence is in violation of the law (trespassing), your Press credentials shouldn't be a Get Out Of Jail Free card - you should be held to the sames charges/penalties that anyone else would be held to. ..."Honest Officer, I was just here to document the activity of these bank robbers; I wasn't actually a part of them as they came in and killed the Security Guard." Regardless of intent, anyone participating in a crime is held accountable. Someone dies while in the commission of the crime and EVERYONE gets charged with murder. The Press shouldn't be exempt from this. Just my personal opinion.



Ok. So what if 90% of the people who entered the capitol that day claimed they were reporters with a camera (cell phones count nowadays...)? Remember, many/most didn't do anything more than wander around and take selfies and later went home. Does that fit in your broad interpretation of reporting staff?

I know the question wasn't posed to me, but I'll answer for myself.
My interpretation: No.
Legal interpretation: Sometimes.

It's interesting how with the advent of things like cell phones and web blogs, some folks are officially classified "Press" without having any sort of official credentials - but only when it suits the powers that be. There are times when it doesn't suit the agenda off those in charge and those same individuals don't get the "Press" classification.

[BushMasterBoy]

"interest of the public" and the gathering of evidence against a riotous mob versus a mere trespassing charge?

Surely you jest!

[Great-Kazoo]

"interest of the public" and the gathering of evidence against a riotous mob versus a mere trespassing charge?

Surely you jest!

Jest? Like a clown, jest?






There's merit what was said.

[theGinsue]

Except, the Press can refuse to provide information about he perpetrators of the crimes they documented under the "Freedom of the Press" exemption, making the evidence near worthless.

The Press isn't participating to gather evidence, they are there (at best) to document so their outlet can make money. At worst, they are actively participating and using their credentials as legal cover.

[BushMasterBoy]

The reporter can be compelled to testify. Did the court promote the use of the press gathering evidence to convict a defendant of a crime?


BRANZBURG v. HAYES


https://caselaw.findlaw.com/us-supreme-court/408/665.html

[Great-Kazoo]

https://www.yahoo.com/news/national-guard-troops-being-taught-123107053.html


Iz your paperverk en order

[hollohas]

https://www.yahoo.com/news/national-guard-troops-being-taught-123107053.html


Iz your paperverk en orderRatting out your comrades for differing political views. That never ends badly.

[Great-Kazoo]

Ratting out your comrades for differing political views. That never ends badly.

NEVER [LOL].


There was a time when America was appalled by Russia, asking it's children and people, to report anyone they felt was not a true communist. Or had "radical" ideas.

This country has been doing it for decades. So now it's ok. The hypocrisy of the left. Now that's appalling

[cstone]

"Press credentials" is a phrase used to describe many different things. There are no government issued licenses for journalists. Most press passes are issued by event organizers or venue owners to whoever they determine twill need access for the purpose of publishing information about the event.

Journalist = a person who writes for newspapers, magazines, or news websites or prepares news to be broadcast.

Based on this definition, anyone who takes photographs or video records anything and posts the content onto YouTube or a personal website could be considered a journalist. Beware the "officially vetted journalist" provided credentials by a company, political organization, or government agency. That journalist just may be a shill for the people who provided the credentials.

Today, anyone that can post information on the Internet is a potential journalist. Everyone has a bias. Anyone who tells you that they are unbiased is lying or delusional.

[Great-Kazoo]

speaking about press passes. What ever happened to the guy with one of the local media outlets, that killed the trump supporter in denver?

[OtterbatHellcat]

We're all fascist pigs that need reprogramming.

[JohnnyDrama]

From the article, "databases and watchlists". What?

[00tec]

speaking about press passes. What ever happened to the guy with one of the local media outlets, that killed the trump supporter in denver?

Still crawling through the courts. Arraignment isn't until mid February.

https://denver.cbslocal.com/2021/01/08/matthew-dolloff-unlicensed-security-guard-accused-deadly-shooting-trial-claiming-self-defense/

[hollohas]

I remember reading after the Capitol riot that the officer that died, had died of a stroke. That was information directly from the head of the Capitol Police Union...someone I would assume would have accurate info.

That was QUICKLY changed to claim he died from being beat with a fire extinguisher by "the pro-Trump mob". And that's been the narrative ever since. It's been the single worst thing about the riot, that so-called conservative, pro-police people, killed a police officer. It's also the main catalyst that pushed the 2nd impeachment. It was cited during the arguments.

Except...it's not true. The officer in fact died from a stroke the next day and his autopsy showed no signs of blunt force trauma.

They did the same thing as the Russia investigation, used outright PROVEN FALSE media bullshit stories from anonymous sources as evidence.

https://news.yahoo.com/amphtml/times-corrects-record-officer-sicknick-204024018.html


A few days ago, the New York Times quietly “updated” its report, published over a month earlier, asserting that Capitol Police officer Brian Sicknick had been killed by being struck with a fire extinguisher during the January 6 riot.

According to the update, “new information has emerged regarding the death of the Capitol Police officer Brian Sicknick that questions the initial cause of his death provided by officials close to the Capitol Police.” As I detailed in a column last week, what the Times calls “new information” actually began emerging the same day the paper filed its January 8 report......

[buffalobo]

I started a thread about NYT quietly retracting in Politics. Everybody flew by it.

Jason Crow used claim that officer died in riot today in an interview.

[Irving]

I started a thread about NYT quietly retracting in Politics. Everybody flew by it.


It's not that it was ignored, just a repost that was already hashed out a while ago.

EDIT: Referring to this. https://www.ar-15.co/threads/182530-Would-this-be-considered-Collusion

[buffalobo]

It's not that it was ignored, just a repost that was already hashed out a while ago.

EDIT: Referring to this. https://www.ar-15.co/threads/182530-Would-this-be-considered-CollusionNot same subject. Your referring to collusion(Time article), hollojas referring to NYT quiet retraction of phoney COD of Capital Hill police officer. I started two threads, repost of Time article and NYT retraction.

[Irving]

Not same subject. Your referring to collusion(Time article), hollojas referring to NYT quiet retraction of phoney COD of Capital Hill police officer. I started two threads, repost of Time article and NYT retraction.

My bad, thought it was the same one as James was talking about.

[hollohas]

The Capitol police say they have very credible and serious intel that some unspecified militia is going to storm the Capitol again tomorrow. The Intel is SO sensitive in fact that they can't tell us what it is. But trust 'em, it's real. It's so "real" the House cancelled tomorrow.

They really think it's believable that somewhere a militia force so large that it can storm a fortified defense of 5,000 Guard troops is building up? Somewhere close enough to DC that they're going to all converge there tomorrow? Wouldn't it be obvious by now if that were true? Wouldn't the militia force be visible by now? Staying in hotels there? Caravaning in? Something? Or is a stealth bus full of them just going to roll up tomorrow and take it down special forces style?

But seriously guys. It's a REAL threat.

It's nothing but propaganda. We're are so dumb.

[BPTactical]

The Capitol police say they have very credible and serious intel that some unspecified militia is going to storm the Capitol again tomorrow. The Intel is SO sensitive in fact that they can't tell us what it is. But trust 'em, it's real. It's so "real" the House cancelled tomorrow.

They really think it's believable that somewhere a militia force so large that it can storm a fortified defense of 5,000 Guard troops is building up? Somewhere close enough to DC that they're going to all converge there tomorrow? Wouldn't it be obvious by now if that were true? Wouldn't the militia force be visible by now? Staying in hotels there? Caravaning in? Something? Or is a stealth bus full of them just going to roll up tomorrow and take it down special forces style?

But seriously guys. It's a REAL threat.

It's nothing but propaganda. We're are so dumb.



Not “Super Secret Squirrel” intel?????

Must be a clear and tangible threat....





https://youtu.be/r3LzJzQ3wj4

[Gman]

I won't be surprised if they'll be looking for an excuse to keep forces there...forever. If the politicians were so concerned that the citizenry was so unhappy with their behavior that their lives were in danger, then maybe they would change their ways. That isn't happening.

[BREATHER]

Gonna use it for their gun grab

[KevDen2005]

Gonna use it for their gun grab

Was thinking something similar. They will use it as a tool/excuse to outlaw guns, groups, or types of training, etc. One or a combination of those things. Or a reason to help push a 94 style assault weapons ban which did nothing but will make everyone feel better

[buffalobo]

Always need a boogeyman.

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[BladesNBarrels]

Always need a boogeyman.

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Well, we can't keep them from their important work.
Banning Dr. Seuss books, jibbering and jabbering.

[Osmosis]

Not same subject. Your referring to collusion(Time article), hollojas referring to NYT quiet retraction of phoney COD of Capital Hill police officer. I started two threads, repost of Time article and NYT retraction.

I saw that post about the NYT 'retraction' and added a Glenn Greenwald Substack link that I though gave a great analysis of all the disinformation regarding the riot.

[hollohas]

What's to word on the militia takeover of the Capitol today? That still happening or nah?

They said on Jan 20th there would be militia storming capitols around the nation. One nerd showed up somewhere and gave an interview while crying.

Here we are again. Super secret reliable intel of a guaranteed battle at the Capitol today. But all quite on the entrenched Washington DC front apparently. Fake news again. I am SHOCKED.



https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210304/f9dd8dd91839e30264723bf121c5c30c.jpg

[HunterCO]

Its a ghost town wish I could skip work and claim I felt a threat and still get paid.

[buffalobo]

Booga is the word.

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[Irving]

Maybe they meant China's capital.

[hollohas]

Raise of hands for who thinks there will be a single article written about this major overreaction.

[JohnnyDrama]

I feel sorry for the guardsmen. Nothing erodes readiness and morale like this kind of bs.

[Irving]

Raise of hands for who thinks there will be a single article written about this major overreaction.

Generally I'd say it's difficult to write an article about something that didn't happen, but we've all seen the news the last several years.

[Great-Kazoo]

One should ask. What does it say about an administration who fears the populace enough. The keep troops in D.C, as well as fencing off federal buildings?


Considering the same politicians and media went apeshit, condemning Trump for his heavy handed tactics of ..................................................


Fencing off the federal courthouse in Portland, as well as having federal LE on scene? This republican reaction is AN OUTRAGE AND OVERREAC TION TO SUPPRESS PEOPLES RIGHT TO FREE SPEECH.

While D.C is "a precaution against potential threats from white racist and militias".


The left is good. the right EVIL!

[walkerwv]

FOUR peaceful Trump supporters showed up to the US Capitol on Thursday and ABC News made it sound like a five alarm fire.

High security at US Capitol as Trump supporters gather hoping for his return to power? ABC said with a photo of National Guard troops.