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clodhopper
11-22-2022, 18:28
Happened to be in a group earlier today talking about disabling vehicles with firearms. Too much hollywood influence in the ideas being passed around. Overly focused on punching a hole through the block and similar. Kept my tongue in the talk, but it got me thinking after. There are so many tender spots on cars that are much easier to nail than punching the block. Kinda bothers me in movies when a car is all shot to crap, but somehow not a single hole in the radiator, fuel injection system OK, power steering fine, etc.

So, thought puzzle for the group. You are responsible for defending a relatively open site. Non-armored vehicles are to be expected. Engagement range would be 600 to 1400 yards. What is your caliber choice, and what is your plan of engagement targeting?

kidicarus13
11-22-2022, 18:43
Like wild game, you take the shot you are given. Shoot what you brought.

BushMasterBoy
11-22-2022, 18:46
30.06 to the radiator. Then the windshield. You will see the steam. They will see they are being repulsed. Hopefully they will just bail. .50 cal Barrett M82 at 600 yards. Probably will go in the block. Drone with a AGM64 and watch the video...

eddiememphis
11-22-2022, 18:58
600 yards is a very long shot. Over a 1/4 mile.

Depending on how many vehicles are trying to get to my garden, I'd likely wait until they are closer.

Weapon of choice? Mine or any?

Any weapon would be a semi-auto .50 BMG or if we are going super unlimited, a turret mounted M2, chain-fed full-auto with 600k rounds of ammo and a cute girl to help feed the belts.

My guns? Scoped 30-06. Radiator if head on. Top of the front tire from the side. Both shots could damage a lot of equipment if not dead solid hits. If they keep coming, switch to the .450 Bushmaster at around 200 yards.

eddiememphis
11-22-2022, 19:04
I'd put one of these in my yard and everything would be groovy, man.

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcR5rbxRgNLjI0ht7FgEFLkj_17FYPyqo X_cSWYVahZjYofqXN8Z4DfIVkFYJqGz5n_jnGk&usqp=CAU

bradbn4
11-22-2022, 19:04
well; radiator would be the big target...tires are always good - unless they are the higher end run flats.

For EV; the battery pack, but you might end up with a roasted car.

A lucky shot might spider web the front windshield.

going for solid copper round; hmm, even a simple 308 at that range 6.5 for more fun.

Trenches - something that would take out the wheels / axle going at speed.

FoxtArt
11-22-2022, 19:20
At that range, and a moving target, I think anyone would simply be doing well to aim at where the "tiny" vehicle will be in 2 seconds.

Hummer
11-22-2022, 19:28
M1 Rifle with AP Incindiary rounds to the block is a sure thing. I carry them in my truck.....

A vehicle can go a good long ways with a leaking radiator, but not with a busted piston and big hole in the block.

Eric P
11-22-2022, 20:36
The easiest way to disable a vehicle is to disable or kill the bag of flesh in the driver's seat. Head on you have a large target to accomplish this.

From the side? If not sure where they sit, aim for front wheel. Might get luck and lock that brake or hub.

Mountain_Goat_Actual
11-22-2022, 21:10
Site preparation is the only true surefire way to stop any high speed avenues of approach. Id choose a bulldozer and a backhoe and about a month of time to dig trenches and build berms. Then I could sit back and wait and bide my time as they get stuck in my maze of trenches and killzones and then take well aimed shots when they are backing up or moving slowly for a higher percentage hit ratio. 😎

gnihcraes
11-22-2022, 22:07
https://youtu.be/njO0Cab4En4

Joe_K
11-22-2022, 22:12
So, thought puzzle for the group. You are responsible for defending a relatively open site. Non-armored vehicles are to be expected. Engagement range would be 600 to 1400 yards. What is your caliber choice, and what is your plan of engagement targeting?

Aim for the driver. Any barrier blind round that will reliably punch through auto glass and car body steel at those distances, 7.62x51mm NATO or equivalents at the minimum. Fired from a weapon with a standard capacity magazine or better yet a belt fed, definitely at least from a semi-automatic firearm.

bradbn4
11-22-2022, 22:33
If you did not have to shoot it; but deliver it - I would say paint; smoke, even water vapor would work if done right.

To just kill the motor; a very fine powder mist to block the air intake; hmm; what that powder is comprised of could have different impacts on the quality of life for a normal motor.

If you must have to shoot something and you can funnel the traffic; tannerite

earplug
11-22-2022, 23:39
Bad guys will start looking for a corvair after reading this information

20X11
11-23-2022, 09:37
At 600 - 1000 yds, I'd think at least .416 Barrett... 100 yds, .458 SOCOM

eddiememphis
11-23-2022, 10:09
This should do it...

https://nationalinterest.org/sites/default/files/main_images/5137766%20%281%29.jpg

rondog
11-23-2022, 11:51
Well, if'n it was something I just HAD to do, and I had time to set up for it, I reckon my M1 Garand and some M2AP would work just fine.