Space Based Threat

[BushMasterBoy]

Apparently Russia has a nuclear weapon orbiting in space. I am assuming it is targeting US military satellites providing secure communications. This is an escalation and a clear and present danger to the US.

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/white-house-plans-brief-lawmakers-house-chairman-warns/story?id=107232293

[BPTactical]

Space Force to the rescue

[TEAMRICO]

Meh, Joe Biden will stop this. But first he needs his Tapioca.

[BPTactical]

Meh, Joe Biden will stop this. But first he needs his Tapioca.

Depends

[def90]

Not sure why you would need nuclear weapons to take out a satellite or how that even makes sense.. but I guess the apparatus needs to keep someone somewhere scared.

[Wolfshoon]

Like those capabilities don't exist all ready, by multiple countries. The media is gung ho against anything russia right now, but they are not the only ones in space. Anyone remember when china took out a satellite "because we can" a couple years ago and all the other nations were "thanks for making a bunch of space debris threatening other satellites"? Anybody? How about the "rods of god" we supposedly have. Our 747 airborne laser platform. Do you really think we don't have space to space capable weaponry with all the heavy lift rocket launches we put into orbit each year with large military payloads?

Must be an election year, time for distractions. Can't wait for the next virus scam, maybe fungus this time around. Gotta give the pravda media this, they have been extremely effective turning American against American the past decade, ever since the smith-mundt act was repealed.

This is more political BS. Mike turner, the big intel chair squealing about this, supposedly a republican, voted to raise the debt ceiling, keep mcCarthy, and continually wants to sent $$$$$ to ukraine (this must be one hell of a kickback system as so many are for it in government and the MIC. Seriously, how much cash has ukraine gotten so far?). Also initially didn't vote to censure schiff. Cripes if republicans would stick together like democrats do then most of this crap wouldn't happen. But, UNIPARTY, both sides corrupt/blackmailed/compromised. Another RINO jagoff of the uniparty against America, just like Ken Buck who turned his back on us at least 3 times the past year alone.

But I digress, maybe space aliens and their forbidden space technology....................

[rfenster]

Nuclear blast 200 miles above Kansas would take out electrical grid over a good portion of the USA. A couple of Nuclear blasts/EMPs over the east coast and west coast would be disastrous.

[Bailey Guns]

Apparently Russia has a nuclear weapon orbiting in space. I am assuming it is targeting US military satellites providing secure communications. This is an escalation and a clear and present danger to the US.

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/white-house-plans-brief-lawmakers-house-chairman-warns/story?id=107232293


Nothing I've read indicates a weapon is in orbit at this point. Only that Russia may have something in the works. And it's not like this is a new idea.

What I'm curious about is how they think that's gonna destroy our satellites without destroying others, either thru the blast or with the added amounts of debris that would be created. Maybe the Russians know they can't match us in a conventional war so taking out our sat comms might level the playing field for them a bit. Put us all back into the "stone age" (so to speak) of communications ability. They do have a knack for relying on low-tech to do a lot of things.

[BushMasterBoy]

They launched it last week. USSF payload was launched yesterday. My guess is it has been neutralized.

95915


Per Ardua ad Astra

[ray1970]

Not sure why you would need nuclear weapons to take out a satellite or how that even makes sense..

It?s probably the same reason people need big magnum rifle calibers for deer and elk.

[clodhopper]

They launched it last week. USSF payload was launched yesterday. My guess is it has been neutralized.

95915


Per Ardua ad Astra


Whoa. Hold up. The president has the authority to declassify information? All by hisself? Huh. I didnt get that impression from the last couple years of news reporting.

[O2HeN2]

Anyone remember when china took out a satellite "because we can" a couple years ago and all the other nations were "thanks for making a bunch of space debris threatening other satellites"? Anybody?
I don't. But I do remember when India did that. (https://carnegieendowment.org/2019/04/15/india-s-asat-test-incomplete-success-pub-78884)

O2

On edit: Aaah, China did it too. (https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/guest-blog/where-did-all-that-space-debris-come-from/)

[FoxtArt]

The reason a nation state may want a "nuke in space" is not about overkill or even satellites per se, but I don't consider it a dramatically new development.

High Altitude EMP attacks. A single nuke can take out a 1200+ mile radius of most electronic devices and infrastructure.

The advantage of a space-deployed one is you can't detect the launch of an ICBM.

That's it, detectability and about 10-20 minutes of lead time, ICBM also results in more prompt counter-action.

Lots of military equipment and certain satellites are EMP hardened. Even EMP hardened equipment can be overwhelmed if sufficiently strong - hardening is mostly about Db reduction, take a pulse inordinately stronger than the hardening is designed for and it can still harm the equipment.

So in any event, it's overhyped, but also not a nothingburger. It's not about overkill in space, or even attacking "just satellites", it's about a first strike to wipe out our electrical infrastructure with no advanced detection of any kind.

[Great-Kazoo]

IMO this is all a distraction over what's happening with bidens falling approval ratings. The special councils referring to him as a old man , blah, blah, blah.



The media needs something else besides TRUMP!! to keep our eyes off the real prize. SQUIRREL!! >>>

By putting this out there, the justification for continually sending billions (of unaccounted for $$) to Ukraine. To keep russia at bay, etc, etc.

You have something to worry about besides an administration in shambles, unaccounted for illegals and who knows how many terrorist wandering around the country.

[Clint45]

We've probably had nukes and weaponized lasers in space for well over a decade. Pretty much our only option against a massive asteroid heading directly towards Earth to divert or destroy (into smaller pieces more likely to burn up in our atmosphere before impact). Apparently, we have several near misses every year, and often don't even know about these asteroids until 48 hours before potential impact... sometimes less than 5 hours. "Near miss" means between Earth and the distance of the Moon's orbit. I have no problem with Russia's space nuke. This really doesn't seem like a big deal and I doubt there is malicious intent, especially now that it's been identified and tracked. No need for an ICBM level warhead to disable an enemy satellite either, don't even need a tacnuke, but nukes are the best option for asteroids, and a bit of EMP is certainly preferable to the alternative. I think space nuke is a positive thing, lol.

[lpgasman]

Meh, Joe Biden will stop this. But first he needs his Tapioca.

He already forgot about it.

[rfenster]

IMO this is all a distraction over what's happening with bidens falling approval ratings. The special councils referring to him as a old man , blah, blah, blah.



The media needs something else besides TRUMP!! to keep our eyes off the real prize. SQUIRREL!! >>>

By putting this out there, the justification for continually sending billions (of unaccounted for $$) to Ukraine. To keep russia at bay, etc, etc.

You have something to worry about besides an administration in shambles, unaccounted for illegals and who knows how many terrorist wandering around the country.

You absolutely nailed it-the scare was coordinated between Republican Congressman Mike Turner and the White House....strange bedfellows, but it is all about $$

[KAPA]

Anyone else read the book “One Second After”? The EMP thing would be devastating to the civilized world if its effects are anything like the book. Since it has never been tested on a scale like that, my hope is that it’s nowhere near as effective as thought but no way to tell until there is a real attempt at this kind of attack. I guess I need to start emp proofing things around the house.

[FoxtArt]

Based on limited tests in the 1960s, we were blowing out infrastructure 1000+ miles away with relatively small nukes. Much of it was accidental. This will happen someday regardless due to a "carrington event" (google it) which was a SMALL celestrial event even in the scale of human history. If anything, EMP risk is underhyped, as our electronics are more sensitive. Small untethered devices (cell phones) are mostly immune, but their supporting infrastructure will die with the event. EMP can generate 100kv on lines...not a lot of current, and certain battery tied systems will survive, but our electronics are more sensitive to 10k-100k volts than original electronics of yesteryear were...

[Great-Kazoo]

And just like that. This is no longer the THREAT! it was made to be.