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cebeu
02-19-2010, 11:23
Couldn’t care less how this potential decision impacts the short-term political landscape but the path chosen will greatly impact the American constituency long-term. Precarious indeed, where will the Dear Leader” take us?

Keep on eye on this decision folks. If the Socialist Party chooses to pursue the reconciliation option what will that tell us about this Administrations respect for the people [you]? Think about it, and if they ram this shit down our throats because of narrow-minded, short-sighted pride and politics, America must hold Doh’bama, skank Pelosi and Reid directly accountable for driving this country one more giant step into decay. They manage [manipulate] to the low-end in this country, those on the left side of the bell-curve [pick any subject/topic] and they’re potentially taking all of us with them should this arrogant tactic play-out. My ask of you, stay close on this one, and be vocal (Blogs, forums, friends, neighbors, etc.)

Obama Writing Health Bill to Skirt GOP Filibuster (http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/02/19/obama-keeps-democratic-health-option-open/)
Updated February 19, 2010
SOURCE: Foxnews.com

Politico BLOG (http://www.politico.com/arena/)

“…Obama has said he is open to Republican ideas for changing the health care system. But many Democrats seriously doubt GOP leaders will support compromises that could draw enough lawmakers from both parties to create a bipartisan majority.

If next week's meeting does not break the logjam, congressional Democrats will face a tough choice. They can pass a highly diluted health care bill or nothing at all, which would send them into the November elections with a high-profile failure despite their control of Congress and the White House.

Or they can use the aggressive and contentious tactic, known as reconciliation, to pass a far-reaching health care bill in the Senate without having to face the GOP. Democrats lost their ability to block filibusters when Massachusetts Republican Scott Brown won a Senate seat last month…”

Hoosier
02-19-2010, 11:44
FYI, you'd have better chances of making a convincing argument to people in the middle by leaving out phrases such as "Dear Leader", "Oba'Mao", and "skank".

H.

cebeu
02-19-2010, 11:48
FYI, you'd have better chances of making a convincing argument to people in the middle by leaving out phrases such as "Dear Leader", "Oba'Mao", and "skank".

H.

Can't dispute that, you are right and point noted. Don't expect any changes to my poor style though. Thanks for the free bump with your valid criticism.

Hoosier
02-19-2010, 12:42
Sure. I'd also point out that Reconciliation process is only contentious when you're not the party in power.

As the Democrats pointed out when the Republicans used it, and now the exact same people who bashed it then are using it now. You would think these politicians thought that the public doesn't have "VCR" technology.

Personally, I doubt the Dems have the cajones to push it through. And even if they did, these reforms are weak half measures that seem to only make a bad situation worse.

I wish everyone who got healthcare from their company had it's cost shown as a deduction from their paycheck.

sniper7
02-19-2010, 17:19
there are too many dems that see the writing on the wall. they value their own asses and own political careers more than they do pushing health care through for obama. politicians are two faced liars, all of them. they will save their own skin first.

Mtn.man
02-19-2010, 17:33
And their pension.

sniper7
02-19-2010, 17:48
And their pension.


I thought they got that no matter what...one term or a lifetime.

GunTroll
02-19-2010, 21:44
5 years is what I thought it took to get paid for life.

sniper7
02-19-2010, 22:46
5 years is what I thought it took to get paid for life.


I thought all they had to do was 1 term and they were set.
guess this needs to be looked into. if that is the case I need to go be a one term senator.[Tooth]

roberth
02-20-2010, 19:44
I thought all they had to do was 1 term and they were set.
guess this needs to be looked into. if that is the case I need to go be a one term senator.[Tooth]

Where do I vote and where is my free stuff? [Muaha]

theGinsue
02-20-2010, 19:51
What, you want more? Isn't Obama making YOUR car and housing payments?[ROFL1]

sniper7
02-20-2010, 20:01
Where do I vote and where is my free stuff? [Muaha]


hell I would do whatever I could to get everyone on here a .gov funded AR with 1000 rounds of ammo![Beer]

sniper7
02-20-2010, 20:03
What, you want more? Isn't Obama making YOUR car and housing payments?[ROFL1]


I wish!
It is ridiculous how much the banks make off a home mortgage, I would be better off to buy land, live on welfare and build a house myself, then find a job and not have a mortgage.

I was astounded when I bought my house how much you pay in interest over the life of a loan. it is sickening.

roberth
02-20-2010, 20:41
What, you want more? Isn't Obama making YOUR car and housing payments?[ROFL1]

I'm still waiting for that first check from the gubbmint, I heard it was in the mail.
[Ban1]

roberth
02-20-2010, 20:43
I wish!
It is ridiculous how much the banks make off a home mortgage, I would be better off to buy land, live on welfare and build a house myself, then find a job and not have a mortgage.

I was astounded when I bought my house how much you pay in interest over the life of a loan. it is sickening.

They make a killing when you add it up over 30 years.

theGinsue
02-20-2010, 21:03
I wish!
It is ridiculous how much the banks make off a home mortgage, I would be better off to buy land, live on welfare and build a house myself, then find a job and not have a mortgage.

I was astounded when I bought my house how much you pay in interest over the life of a loan. it is sickening.


It's been a few years, but I recall seeing the total amount I'd pay over the life of my 30 year mortgage. It came to 2 1/2 - 3x what I borrowed.

If I could have used that money to pay for mtn property I'd have a nice place to live.

sniper7
02-20-2010, 21:12
Yep, I just bought a new house and we will end up paying just over twice the original price of the house if we pay just the standard payments.
My aunt is a Realtor and told me if I pay an extra 2 payments a year I would have it paid off in about 18 years.
Other than the fact that we don't have that much extra money and I definitely don't plan on staying there more than 5 it is near pointless.
I can only hope the value of the house appreciates quite a bit and I can make some extra money off it that way.

roberth
02-20-2010, 21:13
It's been a few years, but I recall seeing the total amount I'd pay over the life of my 30 year mortgage. It came to 2 1/2 - 3x what I borrowed.

If I could have used that money to pay for mtn property I'd have a nice place to live.

And I wonder why people rent. They aren't putting their money into anything but they aren't giving the bank a rent payment every month or two either.