"The Chart" - Good info for AR builders and Buyers

[M2MG]

This chart is sure to get some hot threads going back and forth. Not intended to start fights over who's best or worst, just lots of good AR info from a lot of manufacturers.

http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=pwswheghNQsEuEhjFwPrgTA&gid=5

Let the flames begin.

M2MG

[cowboykjohnson]

The chart says all hail the Colt!
[Bow]

I like colt... but I like LMT and RRA better.

Either way good info.

[Colorado Osprey]

Did anybody ever catch the episode of GI Factory where FN was making all of Colt's M4's and M16's?? Did you see the lady bending the barrels to straighten them after rifling with an arbor press before assembly? This kinda made "Colt" fall from any tier in my mind. They were never top in my "chart" because Colt is so anti private citizen owning firearms.

In my mind the tier chart was only made so that the people who bought the top tier brand feel better about their expensive purchase.

That said, their are some valid point in the chart, but it is not the end all be all. For example, manufacturers' change place on the chart depending on their govnt contracts. Moving up only because they get a contract? How does that change their manufacturing or assemble practices??

Want another example?
Did you know there are 4, yes 4 Mil-Spec ways to stake a carrier? Also, if you don't have a selector switch you don't have a mil-spec gun.

[Marlin]

if you don't have a selector switch you don't have a mil-spec gun.


Pretty much sums up my opinion on the whole thing...

[Elhuero]

so I guess I should just pawn my bushmaster and start over then?

[Ridge]

IMO, Colt has never been in the top 2 tiers because up until recently, half of the components were out of spec. Receiver holes, fire control group pins, etc...

Still dont understand why Colt commands such a price point, when companies like Spikes and RRA are of similar quality...

[mikedubs]

Wow...I guess my Bushmaster/Del-Ton hybrid isn't even worth the metal it's made of and is going to fall to pieces as soon as I zero it.[ROFL1]

[Marlin]

Yep,, You should let me have it,, You know,, For your own safety.... [Tooth]

[mikedubs]

sorry Marlin no can do...been playing Resident Evil and can hear zombies at the door...[Muaha]

[MG]

[Marlin]

Okay,, I can let that one slide...

[tmckay2]

colt is way too hyped. theyre fine, but nothing special. people think since they have a military contract they are automatically better and its total BS. don't get me wrong, if people want to drop the dough on them have at it, they are perfectly good rifles, but to think a colt will out shoot or out last any of the other higher end products they are crazy

[llostwolf]

Wow...I guess my Bushmaster/Del-Ton hybrid isn't even worth the metal it's made of and is going to fall to pieces as soon as I zero it.[ROFL1]

Dont worry you can look at my colt any time you want to. [Gas1]

[Ridge]

Wow...I guess my Bushmaster/Del-Ton hybrid isn't even worth the metal it's made of and is going to fall to pieces as soon as I zero it.[ROFL1]

Send it to me for proper disposal. I'll give ya $10 cause I feel sorry for you...

[mikedubs]

Dont worry you can look at my colt any time you want to. [Gas1]

gee thanks wolfman...

ps...is your trigger pin installed correctly this time?[Tooth][Muaha]

[mikedubs]

Send it to me for proper disposal. I'll give ya $10 cause I feel sorry for you...


thanks anyway Ridge...If it goes bang and can hit a man sized target at 300 yards, it's good enough for me[Beer]

[llostwolf]

gee thanks wolfman...

ps...is your trigger pin installed correctly this time?[Tooth][Muaha]


the one time my gun doesn't go bang and someone has to be there to laugh....

[hobowh]

the one time my gun doesn't go bang and someone has to be there to laugh....
That's how it always works[ROFL1]