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After watching this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gYjkLUcbJWo
This image made me laugh:
http://i.imgur.com/6Mm0d.png
H.
Were is the footage of the IDF shooting those terrorists? I wish the Whale Wars ship would have been part of the Flottila too.
GunTroll
06-02-2010, 17:04
What you don't like the whale defenders? You?
Haha, yes you a-hole, me. [Beer]
Those guys are a bunch of fairies. They act all hard core, then throw stink bombs and get mad when a ship comes near them. I sure enjoyed the footage of their boat getting cut in half last year.
GunTroll
06-02-2010, 17:10
HAHA I hear you buddy![Beer]
that picture is exactly what I was thinking when I watched the video. lol
is that a paintball gun at 0:50?
I saw that too Dr Fwd, and figured it was if it was a Peace Terrorist, but then a few seconds later it looks like the IDF troops are all standing in the middle holding off the crowd. Maybe it is a paint ball gun with pepper ball rounds to try and be peaceful or something.
Bailey Guns
06-02-2010, 18:38
I'm thinking a torpedo from an Israeli sub or destroyer would've been much simpler.
Israel needs a battleship or heavy cruiser to light those bastards up. It would be overkill but well deserved.
"Aid ships? What aid ships? We never saw 'em." Should've been the reaction.
Also, attacking Israeli commandos is a good way to get lit up. They should be grateful for the response they got and only a few ended up dead.
Where is that video of the IDF guy using the terrorist as a human shield against the very grenade that the terrorist threw, when you need it?
I'm the one that posted it here and I still can't find it.
I saw that too Dr Fwd, and figured it was if it was a Peace Terrorist, but then a few seconds later it looks like the IDF troops are all standing in the middle holding off the crowd. Maybe it is a paint ball gun with pepper ball rounds to try and be peaceful or something.
Yes paintball guns with pepper rounds. Tippman A-5 (according to where I got the video link from)
H.
OgenRwot
06-02-2010, 23:44
The OP is effing hilarious. I was wondering why they willingly went into that situation. Seems like the CO made a bad decision there.
Glock Shooter
06-03-2010, 05:42
is that a paintball gun at 0:50?
Thought the same thing, probably OC pellets.
theGinsue
06-03-2010, 06:56
The OP is effing hilarious. I was wondering why they willingly went into that situation. Seems like the CO made a bad decision there.
Never happens. <as if>
Glock Shooter
06-03-2010, 06:57
I know people are getting a laugh out of this but the IDF is showing INCREDIBLE RESTRAINT. Any other nation of people, NOT JEWS, would have positioned snipers and anyone moving toward one of their soldiers would've been terminated. Do you hear this rhetoric "IDF being attacked by Peace activists" ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME? Swap out the IDF with our Marines or Rangers and our Brass would be chalking up the sniper kills left and right, wait, swap out the IDF for the Russians and they'd sink the ship where she sailed!!
Sorry for the rant but it's like a comedian I saw years ago. He holds up a small matchbook and says "THIS IS ISRAEL" and then says, this little matchbook lives on the Football field with people who want nothing less then to kill every Jew for BEING A JEW!!! So the Israelis try to talk to those who hate them and say "what do you want?" and their reply "HALF THE MATCHBOOK!"
Hoosier, I lolled as well. Good find.
Israel (as a nation of people) has been apologetic for hundreds of years. Even when they established their own country, they still had to bow to pressures to let certain cretans in, etc. I'm waiting for the day when they get fed up....
Yes, they did show incredible restraint but if they would've acted like every other nation, their would be political hell/fallout to pay. Too bad. They can kick ass. I wish someone would release the muzzle.
I think they're just being spineless and PC.
theGinsue
06-03-2010, 09:03
You really do look for every opportunity to stir the pot; don't you Irving?
No, it's just that too many Californians are moving to Israel. 50 years ago Israel would have just boarded that ship with flame throwers, punted all the infants over board, then wiped their asses with the peace flags. I don't know what all this "discretion" is about but it is making them look like pussies and ripe for the taking by communists.
I actually have to agree with Stu here...
They "have" to be discretionary because our POTUS won't back them up and their surrounding nations are looking for any excuse to wipe them off the face of the earth.
As long as you know that I was aiming for sarcastic and obtuse...
As long as you know that I was aiming for sarcastic and obtuse...
Damn nope.... see, that's why everyone needs to use the smiley thingys... I'm a very literal person unless I see something along the lines of: [Coffee]
It was a comment about the difference between using restraint and taking the higher road, and just looking to avoid confrontation and hurt feelings. Israel could have just wiped everyone out, but they didn't. Now, you've got people all over saying,
"Wow, those guys stood firm on their point, but they also didn't needlessly kill everyone and were still able to convey the seriousness of their position."
One can point out that less than first world countries like Russia or NK would have just sunk all the boats, and give those actions a nod of the head. However, you know that acting like Gangas Khan and killing everyone would have been over the line, caused infinitely more problems, and dashed any of the credibility for the blockade.
At the end of the day, who do you respect more? Russia, for the things that they do? Or Israel for the things that they don't do?
hollohas
06-03-2010, 09:53
Funny.
I don't know jack about fast roping but I thought that it looked like they weren't very good at it after I saw this video on Fox News. The angry mob holding the end of the rope aside, the second guy down the rope took so long to get down (10 seconds after the first guy by my count), the first guy was left hanging. I know you don't want to jump on your buddy's head, but come on, get your ass down there and help him out already.
All I know is that this kind of thing never happened in Rainbow Six.
HBARleatherneck
06-03-2010, 14:14
i have fast roped a million times (maybe not literally a million) and I allways came down very fast, 10 times faster then they did.
but,
I did not get out of the helicopter and get down the rope and see my buddies being beat down, and a mob waiting for me to come down. So, I would probably have put the brakes on and thought twice about speeding my descent in to hell.
Oh and fuck the terrorists and thier friends.
theGinsue
06-03-2010, 15:17
No, it's just that too many Californians are moving to Israel. 50 years ago Israel would have just boarded that ship with flame throwers, punted all the infants over board, then wiped their asses with the peace flags. I don't know what all this "discretion" is about but it is making them look like pussies and ripe for the taking by communists.
I actually have to agree with Stu here...
Oh, heaven help me for saying this... me too!
As long as you know that I was aiming for sarcastic and obtuse...
I'm not.
At the end of the day, who do you respect more? Russia, for the things that they do? Or Israel for the things that they don't do?
Okay, so I respect Isreal more, but not for the reasons you listed. Given the reasons you listed, I'd have to select Russia because they did what had to be done, they spun their own version of what happened, knowing that most wouldn't believe it, and they have remained steadfast and unapologetic about it.
Of course, Isreal isn't as big and strong overall as Russia is and they have enemies knocking on EVERY one of their borders without the U.S. willing to have their back anymore. Sad because I agree with them (Isreal).
Oh and fuck the terrorists and thier friends.
+1000
hollohas
06-04-2010, 10:45
http://www.foxnews.com/world/2010/06/04/israeli-commando-shot-activists-aid-convoy-line-medal/
Nice. The last soldier off the chopper shot 6 of the 9 killed on board with his Glock. Now that guy is the man. That's how I expect Israel to handle these situations. Jump in, tell everyone to get down. Anyone who doesn't gets shot. Don't know why the first guys down weren't shooting yet.
The Times of London reports that at least 2 soldiers had been shot by the "peace activists" and one beaten unconscious before this guy hit the deck and opened fire. Good job. Although, some Israeli CO made a bad call sending those guys onto the deck of that ship into a mob. At least throw a handfull for Flashbangs down there to get the people to spread out a bit first.
http://www.foxnews.com/world/2010/06/04/israeli-commando-shot-activists-aid-convoy-line-medal/
Nice. The last soldier off the chopper shot 6 of the 9 killed on board with his Glock. Now that guy is the man. That's how I expect Israel to handle these situations. Jump in, tell everyone to get down. Anyone who doesn't gets shot. Don't know why the first guys down weren't shooting yet.
The Times of London reports that at least 2 soldiers had been shot by the "peace activists" and one beaten unconscious before this guy hit the deck and opened fire. Good job. Although, some Israeli CO made a bad call sending those guys onto the deck of that ship into a mob. At least throw a handfull for Flashbangs down there to get the people to spread out a bit first.
Killing people is exactly what Israel needed to NOT do. They needed to stop these ships without killing anyone for political purposes. They failed, they got baited into the trap laid for them and made their problem much worse.
This is also relevant for irony: http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/adamcurtis/2010/06/21_miles_off_the_coast_of_pale.html
hollohas
06-04-2010, 12:39
Killing people is exactly what Israel needed to NOT do. They needed to stop these ships without killing anyone for political purposes. They failed, they got baited into the trap laid for them and made their problem much worse.
This is also relevant for irony: http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/adamcurtis/2010/06/21_miles_off_the_coast_of_pale.html
Israel is surrounded by people that hate them; whether they play nice or not. Those people HATE Israel down to their bones. Even when Israel plays nice politically, they still get rockets dropped on their heads. Lose, lose. Some people hate others for nothing more than the others are different. Much like no matter what the USA does, the bad guys will want us dead. Nothing will make them happy except killing Americans. Same goes for those that hate Israel.
They had a right to board that ship and they didn’t plan on killing anyone. That’s clear because the first 14 guys that boarded the ship didn’t shoot. But when they boarded, they got beat and shot. You have to protect your men. You think it would have been better if the soldiers did not fire and they all got beat to death? If Israel wanted to shoot those people for no reason they would have done it from the chopper without risking their men down there.
That’s the great thing about Israel. They don’t give into the PC bullshit. If their people are in danger, they will bring the hammer down on those responsible. With all the people that hate them, they have to be strong to keep their country from falling apart. Israel’s response after being attacked during the Yom Kippur War shows this works. Israel was attacked and was in great danger as Egypt and Syria pushed into Israel. Israel truly believed it was their final stand. They pushed back hard and took large portions of both Egypt and Syria. Egypt was so embarrassed that it eventually lead to the Egypt-Israel Peace Treaty and the first Arab state to recognize that Israel was a legitimate country. They saved their country and created a little peace…with force. Funny how that works.
EDIT:
On a side note. The USA has much more room to play nice politically than Israel does. We don’t share boarders with people that are hell bent on killing us. If things unravel during peace talks for us, we just fly home to our country surrounded by thousands of miles of ocean. If things go south for Israel, rockets fall on their heads and people die. They have to nip things in the butt. Sure, people will use this incident as an excuse to fire more rockets into Israel, but if it wasn’t this, the bad guys would have found some other reason to kill Israelis. They always have a reason.
Israel is surrounded by people that hate them; whether they play nice or not. Those people HATE Israel down to their bones. Even when Israel plays nice politically, they still get rockets dropped on their heads. Lose, lose. Some people hate others for nothing more than the others are different. Much like no matter what the USA does, the bad guys will want us dead. Nothing will make them happy except killing Americans. Same goes for those that hate Israel. They had a right to board that ship and they didn’t plan on killing anyone. That’s clear because the first 14 guys that boarded the ship didn’t shoot. But when they boarded, they got beat and shot. You have to protect your men. You think it would have been better if the soldiers did not fire and they all got beat to death? If Israel wanted to shoot those people for no reason they would have done it from the chopper without risking their men down there. That’s the great thing about Israel. They don’t give into the PC bullshit. If their people are in danger, they will bring the hammer down on those responsible. With all the people that hate them, they have to be strong to keep their country from falling apart. Israel’s response after being attacked during the Yom Kippur War shows this works. Israel was attacked and was in great danger as Egypt and Syria pushed into Israel. Israel truly believed it was their final stand. They pushed back hard and took large portions of both Egypt and Syria. Egypt was so embarrassed that it eventually lead to the Egypt-Israel Peace Treaty and the first Arab state to recognize that Israel was a legitimate country. They saved their country and created a little peace…with force. Funny how that works. EDIT:
On a side note. The USA has much more room to play nice politically than Israel does. We don’t share boarders with people that are hell bent on killing us. If things unravel during peace talks for us, we just fly home to our country surrounded by thousands of miles of ocean. If things go south for Israel, rockets fall on their heads and people die. They have to nip things in the butt. Sure, people will use this incident as an excuse to fire more rockets into Israel, but if it wasn’t this, the bad guys would have found some other reason to kill Israelis. They always have a reason.
The fact that they're on occupied land surrounded by people who are unhappy about this occupation means they have to play the politics game much better than anyone else, and they're failing. They are not going to dissuade future attacks by dropping bombs or killing activists.
Out of 8600 rockets fired, a grand total of 28 Israeli's have been killed by Palestinian rockets (source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinian_rocket_attacks_on_Israel). Even if Hamas agreed to stop firing rockets, they would be unable to stop the individual groups who are launching them. The disproportionate response of Israel endangers their citizens more than the qassam rockets.
Egypt continue to make nice with Israel today because it's run by a dictator who receives vast sums of money from the US. It's time we stop cutting enormous checks to both Israel and Egypt.
H.
hollohas
06-04-2010, 18:17
The fact that they're on occupied land surrounded by people who are unhappy about this occupation means they have to play the politics game much better than anyone else, and they're failing. They are not going to dissuade future attacks by dropping bombs or killing activists.
Out of 8600 rockets fired, a grand total of 28 Israeli's have been killed by Palestinian rockets (source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinian_rocket_attacks_on_Israel). Even if Hamas agreed to stop firing rockets, they would be unable to stop the individual groups who are launching them. The disproportionate response of Israel endangers their citizens more than the qassam rockets.
Egypt continue to make nice with Israel today because it's run by a dictator who receives vast sums of money from the US. It's time we stop cutting enormous checks to both Israel and Egypt.
H.
Which is exactly why they boarded that ship. To make sure weapons weren't coming in. They were attacked and they defended themselves.
Just because those rockets didn't kill many doesn't mean they couldn't. You really mean to tell me that they shouldn't respond because only 28 people died? 8600 rockets fell inside their country!
No matter how nice they play those people, who you call activists will still hate Israelis simply because they are Israeli. All the other BS is just excuses to kill them. Do you really think fewer rockets would fall if they didn’t shoot on that boat? Do you think the people that hate Israel would start getting along with them if they didn’t shoot on that boat? I bet they would have just sat at home while talking to their buddies and said “Boy, Israel really showed some restraint when 15 of their soldier were beat to death and they didn’t fire back. Maybe we should give them a break.” Sure they would…
Bottom line…Those soldiers were fighting for the men next to them when they were getting beat and shot by people you call "activists". Anyone who thinks that soldiers should just stand by when their buddies get killed is just spineless.
Do you think the people that hate Israel would start getting along with them if they didn’t shoot on that boat?
No. But can you turn your logic around, and ask this, "Do you think Israel gained more enemies who will seek to attack them because they killed these 9 people"
Bottom line…Those soldiers were fighting for the men next to them when they were getting beat and shot by people you call "activists". Anyone who thinks that soldiers should just stand by when their buddies get killed is just spineless.
My debate isn't about the soldiers. It's about the commanders who sent their guys to fast rope into a mob. It's about the incredibly stupid way Israel decided to handle this situation. They knew in advance there were no weapons on the ships, there were plenty of videos of them being loaded. $10 says Mossad had it's own sleepers on those boats. This flotilla was a ruse by other countries to get Israel to do something stupid, which is what it did. If Israel had let the ships land, it would have gotten minimal press. The Israeli blockade of Palestine would have kept out of the international spotlight.
The conflict between Israel and Palestine isn't one that will be won with guns. They IDF can roll over Gaza every day of the week, and each time they kill an innocent father of 12, they get six new age 6 to 18 sons sworn to get vengeance against the infidels. There are no easy solutions for the Knesset, and where they could be working with Fatah in the West Bank to show the Gazans that life after cooperating with Israel gets better, they continue to build settlements in the outskirts of Jerusalem.
Israels many wars and constant fighting has put it in the mindset of "do anything and everything to protect our citizens" without giving sufficient regard to the long term consequences. It has turned it's arab citizens (Israeli's of Arab decent) into second class citizens. For the Gazans it is literally an apartheid state. If Israel gives full voting rights to the non-Jewish residents, they will be in the minority in a generation or less. So in order to maintain a "Jewish State" they're going to have to make some ugly choices.
H.
Seamonkey
06-04-2010, 23:39
http://www.foxnews.com/world/2010/06/04/israeli-commando-shot-activists-aid-convoy-line-medal/
Nice. The last soldier off the chopper shot 6 of the 9 killed on board with his Glock. Now that guy is the man. That's how I expect Israel to handle these situations. Jump in, tell everyone to get down. Anyone who doesn't gets shot. Don't know why the first guys down weren't shooting yet.
The Times of London reports that at least 2 soldiers had been shot by the "peace activists" and one beaten unconscious before this guy hit the deck and opened fire. Good job. Although, some Israeli CO made a bad call sending those guys onto the deck of that ship into a mob. At least throw a handfull for Flashbangs down there to get the people to spread out a bit first.
I read that article and it calls the IDF commando's "Navy Seals". I followed the link to the full article which mentions "Navy Seals" twice.... Hmmm... Nothing like throwing out the term "Navy Seal" to get attention for your article.
Moving along now, I do wonder why they didn't drop a flash bang or at least some tear gas to break up the crowd before they dropped in. One article I read said the IDF only had paint ball gun which can be seen in one video clip, don't know what they were loaded with.
I noticed that it said 'Navy Seal' also.
Probably this unit: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shayetet_13
what Hoosier doesn't realize, or is ignoring, about this situation is there is no good way that Israel can handle this situation.
Everything they do will be considered wrong in retrospect by the syrians and those worldwide that are banded with them in their hatred of Israel and anything Jewish.
To them, the only acceptable way for Israel to handle everything is to throw down their arms, pick up their families, walk into the sea and drown themselves.
While they talk about rights and peace, their main underlying goal remains the compete and total eradication of an entire people.
If they really wanted peace they could have it. They scream and cry about oppression, all the while staging attacks, launching rockets, and bending the truth.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GoIYFvuFFWs
The "they make enemies with their policy and hatred, so they deserve what they get" argument is bullshit. I heard leftists say the same thing about the U.S. after 9/11. And what exactly could the U.S. have done to soothe the ire of middle eastern terrorists? What can Israel do?
Nothing short of complete capitulation and conversion to islam will satisfy them. Everything else is gravy. and as a result the "palestinians" have become one of the most brainwashed people in history, mindless pawns of their masters that are seeking to eradicate the Jews.
Their entire struggle, like their religion, is based on lies.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cn4r7ZjG9Nc
For me personally, I saw the "palestinians" dancing in street in celebration on 9/11... so I don't give a fuck about them or their plight.
Frankly, I don't give a crap about a single country in the Middle East or what they do as long as it doesn't effect me or my country. The Saudis can continue to chop off gays' heads, the Turks can kill Kurds, and the Israelis can drop WP on UN schools.
The American taxpayer shouldn't be footing the bill (billions and billions a year) for Israeli bombs and Egyptian tanks, either. If they want F-35s or M1A2s (Israel and Egypt, respectively) they should pay for 'em themselves. Hell, what could we do for OUR troops fighting for OUR country with that money?
TriggerHappy
06-05-2010, 12:12
that image was awesome. I got a chuckle for sure. [ROFL2]
I am in agreement with both Hoosier and Elhuero, if that is possible.
I don't think that Hoosier is saying that Israel shouldn't have protected its guys, only that they shouldn't have entered a situation where that became a possibility. It sure is easy to MM Quarterback this issue. Personally, I don't think that shooting those activist-terrorists was the wrong thing to do, it was the ONLY thing to do. Those guys deserved it. You don't enter a military zone under the guise (lie) of peace, and assume that will give you a pass to do whatever you want. That's like grabbing a girls tit at the bar with one hand and holding up the peace sign with your other hand. You're still going to get escorted off the premises and open the door on your way out with your face. Just because you say you don't have weapons, doesn't mean that your intentions are peaceful.
I don't know what else to say. Is there any way that Israel can just intercept a boat and tow it in the wrong direction? Then maybe disable it (without sinking it) so it is dead in the water? Then no one is killed and the point is made.
The "they make enemies with their policy and hatred, so they deserve what they get" argument is bullshit.
You need to stop putting words in my mouth. I never said they deserve what they get. I'm not even reading the rest of what you said because this pissed me off.
I'm out, H.
The American taxpayer shouldn't be footing the bill (billions and billions a year) for...
+1
This didn't get much press since no one died, but they stopped another ship today, the Rachel Corrie.
http://www.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/meast/06/05/gaza.flotilla/index.html?hpt=T2
hollohas
06-05-2010, 15:44
From the CNN article above:
Israel had offered to deliver the aid to Gaza, but passengers rejected the offer, according to a statement from Michael Martin, Ireland's minister for foreign affairs.
Israel said the offer -- formulated with Ireland -- called for representatives of Ireland and the activists to accompany Israel during those steps.
"Unfortunately, the activists rejected this offer, and consequently, the Israeli Navy boarded the ship with full compliance of the ship's crew members, and redirected it to Ashdod port," Israel said.
I guess the "activists" primary goal is not to get aid to Gaza. Israel tries to do the right thing but they activists reject it. Nice. Goes to show that they will disagree with anything Israel does, even when they play nice.
I think we all agree that no one is willing to deal with Israel, which is why Hoosier believes that they shouldn't have boarded the ship under those conditions. Israel should have known this would happen.
You need to stop putting words in my mouth. I never said they deserve what they get. I'm not even reading the rest of what you said because this pissed me off.
I'm out, H.
I wasn't trying to put words in your mouth, sorry if it came out that way.
Hope you have a better day.
ronaldrwl
06-05-2010, 18:04
Israel is surrounded by people that hate them; whether they play nice or not. Those people HATE Israel down to their bones. Even when Israel plays nice politically, they still get rockets dropped on their heads. Lose, lose. Some people hate others for nothing more than the others are different. Much like no matter what the USA does, the bad guys will want us dead. Nothing will make them happy except killing Americans. Same goes for those that hate Israel.
They had a right to board that ship and they didn’t plan on killing anyone. That’s clear because the first 14 guys that boarded the ship didn’t shoot. But when they boarded, they got beat and shot. You have to protect your men. You think it would have been better if the soldiers did not fire and they all got beat to death? If Israel wanted to shoot those people for no reason they would have done it from the chopper without risking their men down there.
That’s the great thing about Israel. They don’t give into the PC bullshit. If their people are in danger, they will bring the hammer down on those responsible. With all the people that hate them, they have to be strong to keep their country from falling apart. Israel’s response after being attacked during the Yom Kippur War shows this works. Israel was attacked and was in great danger as Egypt and Syria pushed into Israel. Israel truly believed it was their final stand. They pushed back hard and took large portions of both Egypt and Syria. Egypt was so embarrassed that it eventually lead to the Egypt-Israel Peace Treaty and the first Arab state to recognize that Israel was a legitimate country. They saved their country and created a little peace…with force. Funny how that works.
EDIT:
On a side note. The USA has much more room to play nice politically than Israel does. We don’t share boarders with people that are hell bent on killing us. If things unravel during peace talks for us, we just fly home to our country surrounded by thousands of miles of ocean. If things go south for Israel, rockets fall on their heads and people die. They have to nip things in the butt. Sure, people will use this incident as an excuse to fire more rockets into Israel, but if it wasn’t this, the bad guys would have found some other reason to kill Israelis. They always have a reason.
+1 for the new guy. Good post
We Con The World
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FOGG_osOoVg
hollohas
06-07-2010, 09:47
We Con The World
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FOGG_osOoVg
Funny.
Reminded me of another activist, the Whale Wars guy, trying to con the world by saying he got shot by whalers.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Gb7fHR0X7Q
Yeah right. He gets shot and all he feels is a "little prick." When someone gets shot in kevlar, even if it miraculously hits a badge underneath, they feel it. But he had no bruising or broken ribs... All this guy had was a scratch from a safety pin. Ha!
I hope that guy and his crew get killed.
hollohas
06-07-2010, 09:58
Damn hippies. [Kick3]
That's pretty harsh for me to say, but fuck the Whale Wars guy. He didn't even have a hole in his top jacket.
CrufflerSteve
06-07-2010, 13:03
I've heard of a definition of a large country vs. a small country. A large country can afford to lose a war or two. Israel is a very small country.
The raid on the flotilla was just bad planning. It's hard to believe the country that did the Entebbe raid did this. Dropping soldiers armed with paintball guns one at a time into an angry mob! This humanitarian group was a big provocation trap and Israel fell into it. Compare it with the Irish boat which let themselves be diverted.
I've seen reports that Iran is joining the party. Seeing as they've supplied Hezbollah with Scuds and who knows what else there is no way they will be allowed unsupervised into Gaza. They're probably loading the boats with wanna be martyrs and any lefties they can get from the west.
I nominate Sean Penn.
Steve
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