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Thoughts on this?
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2010/11/04/arizona-man-arrested-guns-truck-national-mall/
Basics from what I understand: Guy is visiting Washington. Has firearms in his camper. Cop sees them and arrests guy.
ghettodub
11-04-2010, 11:51
DC was one of those places like Chicago that had a ban in place, but was overturned. So now, they require all firearms to be registered, so that's how they get away with this one
That area of DC is full of the people the 2nd Ammendnent was designed to protect us aganst, so naturally they have disallowed all firearms. (except, of course, the ones that they control)
The interesting part though according to the article is that they got him on "unregistered ammunition" not the guns.... what does that mean?
Byte Stryke
11-04-2010, 12:14
Schlosser says the unidentified man would be charged with unregistered ammunition and firearms offenses.
Seriously? we don't have to register the guns but we have to register the ammunition now?
Something smells fishy
[Eek2]
The truck was parked along the National Mall near the National Air and Space Museum Wednesday afternoon, when an officer noticed something suspicious inside.
Could this statement be any more vague? [NoEvil]
if they don't like what you're doing, where you are, or who you are they WILL find a way to arrest you.
Not trying to start a cop bashing thread. Just wanted to get y'all's thoughts. This article seems to be soo vague that it merits research... And I'm curious about the "unregistered ammo" comment.
I'm not bashing cops, I'm stating fact.
ghettodub
11-04-2010, 12:35
That area of DC is full of the people the 2nd Ammendnent was designed to protect us aganst, so naturally they have disallowed all firearms. (except, of course, the ones that they control)
that area? that's a pretty nice area of DC; one of the few, hehe. Downtown DC proper is actually pretty nice, there are just some super scary areas around it. Or do you mean all the government folks? Because I agree with you there [Beer]
if they don't like what you're doing, where you are, or who you are they WILL find a way to arrest you.
No joke, especially in DC with all the crazy government agencies, secret service, etc...
so my girlfriend was working at the air and space museum when it happened . the only reason they even looked at the guy is the dumb ass parks out front on the mall side of the air and space museum in a handicapped space with no hang tag or hc plates , leaves his truck there for 5 hours and then when they tried to talk to him about it then the guns came up , the whole thing worked itself into a bomb scare , he gets locked up cops feel like heroes , everybody else has there day ruined ( if you have ever been in washingtion when that goes on , ugg what a pain ) .
i do and dont feel bad for the guy . by now everyone should know , 1 dont bring a bunch of guns to the Smithsonian . 2 if you are gonna bring a gun to another city or out of state keep it under wraps and 3 if your not hc dont use the spaces
If the "guns and ammunition" were inside the truck or camper, and properly concealed/covered up/stowed/whatever, how could an officer see them? Don't leave your stuff out where nosy bastards can peek in the windows and see it, then cause you grief.
so my girlfriend was working at the air and space museum when it happened . the only reason they even looked at the guy is the dumb ass parks out front on the mall side of the air and space museum in a handicapped space with no hang tag or hc plates , leaves his truck there for 5 hours and then when they tried to talk to him about it then the guns came up , the whole thing worked itself into a bomb scare , he gets locked up cops feel like heroes , everybody else has there day ruined ( if you have ever been in washingtion when that goes on , ugg what a pain ) .
i do and dont feel bad for the guy . by now everyone should know , 1 dont bring a bunch of guns to the Smithsonian . 2 if you are gonna bring a gun to another city or out of state keep it under wraps and 3 if your not hc dont use the spaces
Most of those details weren't in the article... makes a little more sense now....
68Charger
11-04-2010, 13:18
Most of those details weren't in the article... makes a little more sense now....
most news agencies shy away from phrases like "the dumb ass" [ROFL1]
and the "unregistered ammuntion" is probably just a dumbass reporter
ghettodub
11-04-2010, 13:34
most news agencies shy away from phrases like "the dumb ass" [ROFL1]
[ROFL1]
Its to bad the media dose not use terms like that , just imagine Dan Rather saying " check out this dumbass , he/she blah blah " there might less dumbass moves , like parking a truck with guns in a hc spot and then wondering why you got in trouble. But on the other note register ammo ??? Why in the world you do that , and how , sounds like a dumbass reporter ( at least i hope ) . But if they ( the government ) do try something like that, I would hope that all the law abiding gun owners put a stop to it and quick
Byte Stryke
11-04-2010, 19:48
Bought a few hundred rounds of .223 and 250 rounds of .45 ACP today and I am wondering where I go to get it registered.
Thanks in advance.
Just swing by a Walmart and have the type in your DL number. Noob.
KevDen2005
11-04-2010, 20:13
Don't be pissed off at the cops for enforcing laws be pissed at the morons making them. There has to be more to this story for sure.
It is YOUR responsibility to make sure you know the laws in each state as you pass through them. I don't agree with the laws necessarily but I am still going to follow them to the best of my ability.
I lived in DC for years, before the ban was overturned. It is a stupid, dangerous place. Citizens SHOULD be allowed to carry. The law now is that you have to register your firearms and you have to keep them in your home. DC and Maryland are NOT like Colorado where they allow the vehicle to be "somewhat" of an extension of your home.
Byte Stryke
11-04-2010, 20:15
Just swing by a Walmart and have the type in your DL number. Noob.
But I Bought it at Gander mountain...
do they register it for you?
(you do realize I am being sarcastic I hope)
KevDen, we aren't so much going after the cops in as much as we are Mocking the media and the politicians in DC... well, I am anyways
:D
Someone on another site mentioned the ammo comment. Stated that in DC you cannot have ammo of any caliber other than matching a registered firearm. Thus you have to register the gun...and can only have ammo to match it...anything other than matching ammo is "unregistered ammo". No registered shotgun, you better not get caught with shotgun ammo. No registered .22, better not have any .22 ammo.
As for the search...I would bet the cops looked into the vechicle and saw propane tanks... thought bomb and this would explain the bombsquad and such being called out. A search of the vechicle for bombs and they find guns and ammo. It all goes bad from there.
Byte Stryke
11-04-2010, 20:32
So essentially what you are saying is that in DC you cannot buy ANY Ammo. You cannot take your weapon out of your home... but you have to have your registered firearm with you to buy the ammo...
so if you go to Wal-mart and pick up a box of pheasant shot for the shoot this weekend and get pulled over, you wind up on Fox news for unregistered ammo?
Now I am confused
[LOL]
edit: Every time I See propane tanks on a camper I Instantly become suspicious
[ROFL1]
Shit, I drive around with those hand held propane torches in my trunk.
Isn't DC the same place where you aren't allowed to have more than 3 condoms on your person or else you get charged with prostitution?
edit: Every time I See propane tanks on a camper I Instantly become suspicious
[ROFL1]
Good thing you didn't look under the table in the backyard then... [Tooth]
DC ST § 7-2506.01
Formerly cited as DC ST 1981 § 6-2361
District of Columbia Official Code 2001
Division I. Government of District.
Title 7. Human Health Care and Safety. (Refs & Annos)
Subtitle J. Public Safety.
Chapter 25. Firearms Control.
Unit A. Firearms Control Regulations.
Subchapter VI. Possession of Ammunition.
§ 7-2506.01. Persons permitted to possess ammunition.
(a) No person shall possess ammunition in the District of Columbia unless:
(1) He is a licensed dealer pursuant to subchapter IV of this unit;
(2) He is an officer, agent, or employee of the District of Columbia or the United States of America, on duty and acting within the scope of his duties when possessing such ammunition;
(3) He is the holder of the valid registration certificate for a firearm of the same gauge or caliber as the ammunition he possesses; except, that no such person shall possess restricted pistol bullets; or
(4) He holds an ammunition collector's certificate on September 24, 1976.
(b) No person in the District shall possess, sell, or transfer any large capacity ammunition
feeding device regardless of whether the device is attached to a firearm. For the purposes of this subsection, the term "large capacity ammunition feeding device" means a magazine, belt, drum, feed strip, or similar device that has a capacity of, or that can be readily restored or converted to accept, more than 10 rounds of ammunition.
The term "large capacity ammunition feeding device" shall not include an attached tubular device designed to accept, and capable of operating only with, .22 caliber rimfire ammunition.
DC ST § 7-2506.01
Formerly cited as DC ST 1981 § 6-2361
District of Columbia Official Code 2001
Division I. Government of District.
Title 7. Human Health Care and Safety. (Refs & Annos)
Subtitle J. Public Safety.
Chapter 25. Firearms Control.
Unit A. Firearms Control Regulations.
Subchapter VI. Possession of Ammunition.
§ 7-2506.01. Persons permitted to possess ammunition.
(a) No person shall possess ammunition in the District of Columbia unless:
(1) He is a licensed dealer pursuant to subchapter IV of this unit;
(2) He is an officer, agent, or employee of the District of Columbia or the United States of America, on duty and acting within the scope of his duties when possessing such ammunition;
(3) He is the holder of the valid registration certificate for a firearm of the same gauge or caliber as the ammunition he possesses; except, that no such person shall possess restricted pistol bullets; or
(4) He holds an ammunition collector's certificate on September 24, 1976.
(b) No person in the District shall possess, sell, or transfer any large capacity ammunition
feeding device regardless of whether the device is attached to a firearm. For the purposes of this subsection, the term "large capacity ammunition feeding device" means a magazine, belt, drum, feed strip, or similar device that has a capacity of, or that can be readily restored or converted to accept, more than 10 rounds of ammunition.
The term "large capacity ammunition feeding device" shall not include an attached tubular device designed to accept, and capable of operating only with, .22 caliber rimfire ammunition.
I'm sorry but that is just...wrong.
Can you post the condom law too?
Holy shit! I'm never going close to DC again! And to think I used to live in Fairfax and Herndon, and the wife and I went to the Crow Bar in DC a few times for drinks. We were at an outdoor table one night, and realized the older guy next to us with the ponytail was Sen. Ben Nighthorse Campbell, he was there on his Harley. IIRC, I used to keep a S&W Model 19 handy in the apartment back then, but never carried it around.
KevDen2005
11-05-2010, 00:36
So essentially what you are saying is that in DC you cannot buy ANY Ammo. You cannot take your weapon out of your home... but you have to have your registered firearm with you to buy the ammo...
so if you go to Wal-mart and pick up a box of pheasant shot for the shoot this weekend and get pulled over, you wind up on Fox news for unregistered ammo?
Now I am confused
[LOL]
edit: Every time I See propane tanks on a camper I Instantly become suspicious
[ROFL1]
There is NO Wal-Mart inside of DC. In fact there are no gun stores or places to purchase ammo within the district, that I know of
call me ignorant, but I didn't feel threatened on the mall in DC when I visited. Granted it was the middle of the day, but still.
I don't think it was right he was arrested, but the first thing they teach you in class is to make sure you know the laws of where you are traveling. He didn't and he paid the price.
StagLefty
11-05-2010, 05:32
Isn't DC the same place where you aren't allowed to have more than 3 condoms on your person or else you get charged with prostitution?
Possession of more than 2 requires Condom Registration. noob [ROFL1]
yeah the Baltimore / dc area is kinda mess up with there laws . yep its true , in dc more than 2 condoms and its a prostitution charge and its illegal to perform cunnilingus in Maryland (old law they never took away) . the biggest problem out there are the gun laws . The only people that the laws effect are law abiding citizens ( yep , thats not a new statement , lol ) . If for no other reason love Colorado its the gun laws .
68Charger
11-05-2010, 09:11
I stand corrected, however- it's about to change:
http://volokh.com/2010/11/04/d-c-s-highest-court-holds-ammunition-ban-violates-second-amendment/
looks like the DC court of appeals struck down the law as violating the 2nd, a la Heller case...
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