Denver 10rnd cap

[jkslvr]

When I was in my ccw class I was told to avoid things like the XD9. Due to the sub compact having more than a 10 round mag. Thus if one were to reside in let's say Lakewood. Where I guess it is okay to have the 13 round mag, then venture into Denver, maybe get pulled over for speeding or even just receive help from changing a flat. A Denver officer could confiscate your weapon for having a hi cap mag?

Can get a straight answer. Are there any officers here that could clarify.

[ghettodub]

Denver's cap is 20 rounds in a magazine, so you're ok. The assault weapons ban states that semi-auto weapons (minus .22) cannot have a detachable magazine with 21+ rounds in it.

I'm pretty sure that's spot on, can anyone else confirm?

[TFOGGER]

1) Assault weapon shall include all firearms with any of the following characteristics:
a. All semiautomatic action, centerfire rifles with a detachable magazine with a capacity of twenty-one (21) or more rounds.

b. All semiautomatic shotguns with a folding stock or a magazine capacity of more than six (6) rounds or both.

c. Reserved.

d. Any firearm which has been modified to be operable as an assault weapon as defined herein.

e. Any part or combination of parts designed or intended to convert a firearm into an assault weapon, including a detachable magazine with a capacity of twenty-one (21) or more rounds, or any combination of parts from which an assault weapon may be readily assembled if those parts are in the possession or under the control of the same person.
From the Denver Municipal Code. Basically, magazine capacity only enters the equation in the case of rifles and shotguns. You can carry a Glock 17 with a high capacity mag and still be within the law.

Edit: Gray area found:

(i) Specific magazine prohibited. It shall be unlawful to carry, store or otherwise possess a magazine which will hold or may be modified to hold twenty-one (21) or more rounds.


They don't specify rifle/shotgun in this section, so 33 round Glock mags are in the gray area.

[rondog]

On my God, I own an assault weapon now! http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b150/rinselman/smilies/bananadance.gif

[OgenRwot]

When I was in my ccw class I was told to avoid things like the XD9. Due to the sub compact having more than a 10 round mag.

What class was it? Probably some other questionable stuff taught in that class if they told you this. Anything else they say that sounded a little "off"?




Edit: Gray area found:



They don't specify rifle/shotgun in this section, so 33 round Glock mags are in the gray area.

Dang it [Rant1]! When I carry my 26 I ALWAYS have the 33 rounder in it.

[jkslvr]

Prairie Arms.

everything else was right on. Very good class, He did not have a class but worked out a time for me and I was the only one there. One on one class. Great setup.

[DeusExMachina]

Oops, I moved into Denver county a few months back. Good thing I lost all my mags in that boating accident.

[OneGuy67]

Not surprising it was Prairie Arms. Look at the threads here about them to see what most people's opinions of them are.

[xiondavis]

Even if you had something that qualifies as an assault weapon in Denver, aren't you protected by federal law if you are just traveling through town? (flat tire or traffic stop does not change the fact you are in transit elsewhere)

[rellik74]

Denver sucks

[Irving]

Even if you had something that qualifies as an assault weapon in Denver, aren't you protected by federal law if you are just traveling through town? (flat tire or traffic stop does not change the fact you are in transit elsewhere)

There is no Federal Law. However, the common belief is that Denver cops only use that bullshit law to bust gang bangers and the like. So, if you for some reason have an innocent encounter with Denver police, and for some reason they find a too large mag, they let you off easy. I kind of doubt that, but I could see it.

[ChunkyMonkey]

Prairie Arms.

everything else was right on. Very good class, He did not have a class but worked out a time for me and I was the only one there. One on one class. Great setup.

YIKES prairie arms!!! There is a reason why he does not any classes perhaps?

[SAnd]

Even if you had something that qualifies as an assault weapon in Denver, aren't you protected by federal law if you are just traveling through town? (flat tire or traffic stop does not change the fact you are in transit elsewhere)

From the same ordanance that TFOGGER quoted-

(3) It shall be an affirmative defense to charges brought under this section that the transportation of an assault weapon:
(a) Is through the city by a nonresident who is in legal possession of an assault weapon;

[FromMyColdDeadHand]

From the same ordanance that TFOGGER quoted-

(3) It shall be an affirmative defense to charges brought under this section that the transportation of an assault weapon:
(a) Is through the city by a nonresident who is in legal possession of an assault weapon;

I am a citizen of the world ;)

Are there any actual cases brought under this law? As to a Denver cop letting a good guy go with a 30 rnd mag, you'd better hope he doesn't like your AR ;)

[OneGuy67]

Even if you had something that qualifies as an assault weapon in Denver, aren't you protected by federal law if you are just traveling through town? (flat tire or traffic stop does not change the fact you are in transit elsewhere)


You are referring to the Firearms Owner's Protection Act (FOPA) of 1986, which has a 'Safe Passage Provision'. However, that provision deals only with people who are conducting interstate travel (from one state to another) and stop only for food and gas, in a state that might have more restrictive gun laws.

One of the law's provisions was that persons traveling from one place to another cannot be incarcerated for a firearms offense in a state that has strict gun control laws if the traveler is just passing through (short stops for food and gas) and the firearms and ammunition are not immediately accessible, unloaded and, in the case of a vehicle without a compartment separate from the driver’s compartment, in a locked container.

An example of this would be that someone driving from Virginia to a competition in Vermont with a locked hard case containing an unloaded handgun and a box of ammunition in the trunk could not be prosecuted in New Jersey or New York for illegal possession of a handgun provided that they did not stop in New Jersey or New York for an extended period of time.

[MONTROSE1911]

Denver sucks

Denver does suck!

[cwripinz]

I wonder... what about Belt Fed Weapons?? No "Magazine" per se...

[FromMyColdDeadHand]

Somewhere Denver is on a 'Bad' list for mags. I ordered some stuff from Larue and decided to add some 20rnd mags and they shorted the order. Said they had some list that said no hi-caps for Denver. Sent them a link to the muni code and they said they would fix it and send the mags. Never heard back.

[Deckert]

A few years back I spent alot of effort trying to get clarification on this issue. The DA's office NEVER got back to me after several emails and waiting 30 days. I called the mayor's office and was transferreed to a police sarge at their pistol range. He told me that it was all bogus and there were no problem with hicaps in pistols.

Is it the truth? Heck, I don't know, but if you're NOT a Denver resident, I wouldn't (and don't) give it a bit of thought when I'm in Denver.