Friendly FFL for Transfers?

[cwripinz]

Howdy!

I'm looking for a Friendly FFL for Transferring some Out of State Buys and, possibly, negotiating some purchases... if the price is right.

I'm in Denver, Southeast and I work in Englewood.

Who do y'all recommend?

No need to post if "publicity" is a concern... send me a pm!

Thanks!

[rondog]

Bill Stark, he's a retired gent that does transfers at his house. If you come by and do the paperwork first, then when you pick the gun up it's a $15 fee. He's near I-25 and County Line Rd. 303-771-4593

[Byte Stryke]

we really need a list stickied

seems like we have at least one of these a month

:D

[Marlin]

We do, it's called "Industry partners" [Tooth]

[Byte Stryke]

next thing you know you are going to want people to use the search function.
wtf?

[LOL]

[Marlin]

HA!!! Good luck with that one...

[Mazin]

Freedom First Firearms
110 West 70th Avenue
Denver, Colorado 80221
303-428-4700

[Bailey Guns]

Howdy!

I'm looking for a Friendly FFL for Transferring some Out of State Buys and, possibly, negotiating some purchases... if the price is right.

I'm in Denver, Southeast and I work in Englewood.

Who do y'all recommend?

No need to post if "publicity" is a concern... send me a pm!

Thanks!

Maybe I'm being a little over-sensitive. Maybe I'm reading more into this post than I really should. But posts like this really rub me the wrong way.

I've been in the biz for about 10 years. I've never charged more than $25 (it was only $20 for the longest time) for a transfer. That $20 - $25 included:
Paperwork - faxing FFL to other dealers with attendant long distance charges
Maintaining paperwork according to BATFE rules
Phone calls on behalf of transferee
Time spent on background check
Physically receiving the gun
Disposing of all the trash/excess packing material with attendant costs of time and money
Cleaning up the mess because so many morons don't know how to pack stuff
Dealing with idiot customers (transferees) who think it's my fault or my responsibility that the item wasn't received when they thought it should be
Dealing with idiot customers who thought they shouldn't have to pay for the transfer because the gun wasn't what they expected
Dealing with idiot customers who thought I was responsible for refunding their money or shipping the gun back to the seller because it wasn't what they thought it should be
Dealing with idiot customers who thought it was my responsibility to be their warranty station for an online purchase
Receiving guns (way too often, I might add) with no return address, no documentation as to whom it's for, no way to contact the sender, no way to properly log it into the books without much time/resources spent on emails, phone calls, etc...I'll be honest. I really get tired of people who seem to think it's all on the FFL to be the "good" guy. Most dealers have overhead to take care of and the price for a transfer usually doesn't cover much of the cost when time is included.

Transfers are a service. They're done for the benefit of the customer...not the FFL. I guarantee you the small price charged for transfers is oftentimes not worth it. Of course, there are exceptions.

Many of my customers understand all of the above because they have an inkling of what it's like to run/operate/manage a business. The best customers, what I'll call the "friendly" customers, don't piss and moan about a measly $25 when they know they're already getting a good deal on an online purchase. They're thankful they have someone nearby and readily available to complete the transfer for them and understand there's a bottom line to be concerned about. I've always bent over backwards to deliver this customer the best service possible. And when they come back and actually buy something from my store, I keep that in mind and their transfer charges usually drop to $0 - $10.

They don't have the attitude of "maybe I'll do you the favor of doing business with you in the future if you'll fore-go your pittance of a service fee for this transfer". Which, in reality means, "Fat chance, dude. I can get a cheaper price from an online dealer and reluctantly pay your $25 fee. But first I'll string you along a little bit and make a few phone calls to you and have you waste your time looking up a price and/or delivery time for my special order just to make you feel good." This is the customer that doesn't understand their $25, while a nice token, isn't really going to "save" the company from bankruptcy.

So, my suggestion to those of you looking for a "friendly" FFL to do your transfers, is to look at how you want to be treated and then put yourself into the dealer's shoes. They like to be treated nicely, too.

The $20 - $25 transfer fee you pay today could be one of the best professional relationship investments you make in the long run.

[DeusExMachina]

Where did that come from?

[ghettodub]

FFL transfers do seem to be a sensitive subject with a few gun dealers I know. For the price, and the work they do, it's really cheap at $25ish. Most of the local guys can't compete with the prices from online sales either.

[Bailey Guns]

Where did that come from?

I thought the first line of my response was pretty well self-explanatory.

It was pretty much initiated by this (which is a constantly recurring theme on gun forums) and which, like I said, rubs me the wrong way:


I'm looking for a Friendly FFL for Transferring some Out of State Buys and, possibly, negotiating some purchases... if the price is right.

Like I said...maybe I'm just being over-sensitive. On the other hand, maybe it's warranted.

Up to you to decide.

[BPTactical]

Maybe I'm being a little over-sensitive. Maybe I'm reading more into this post than I really should. But posts like this really rub me the wrong way.

I've been in the biz for about 10 years. I've never charged more than $25 (it was only $20 for the longest time) for a transfer. That $20 - $25 included:
Paperwork - faxing FFL to other dealers with attendant long distance charges
Maintaining paperwork according to BATFE rules
Phone calls on behalf of transferee
Time spent on background check
Physically receiving the gun
Disposing of all the trash/excess packing material with attendant costs of time and money
Cleaning up the mess because so many morons don't know how to pack stuff
Dealing with idiot customers (transferees) who think it's my fault or my responsibility that the item wasn't received when they thought it should be
Dealing with idiot customers who thought they shouldn't have to pay for the transfer because the gun wasn't what they expected
Dealing with idiot customers who thought I was responsible for refunding their money or shipping the gun back to the seller because it wasn't what they thought it should be
Dealing with idiot customers who thought it was my responsibility to be their warranty station for an online purchase
Receiving guns (way too often, I might add) with no return address, no documentation as to whom it's for, no way to contact the sender, no way to properly log it into the books without much time/resources spent on emails, phone calls, etc...I'll be honest. I really get tired of people who seem to think it's all on the FFL to be the "good" guy. Most dealers have overhead to take care of and the price for a transfer usually doesn't cover much of the cost when time is included.

Transfers are a service. They're done for the benefit of the customer...not the FFL. I guarantee you the small price charged for transfers is oftentimes not worth it. Of course, there are exceptions.

Many of my customers understand all of the above because they have an inkling of what it's like to run/operate/manage a business. The best customers, what I'll call the "friendly" customers, don't piss and moan about a measly $25 when they know they're already getting a good deal on an online purchase. They're thankful they have someone nearby and readily available to complete the transfer for them and understand there's a bottom line to be concerned about. I've always bent over backwards to deliver this customer the best service possible. And when they come back and actually buy something from my store, I keep that in mind and their transfer charges usually drop to $0 - $10.

They don't have the attitude of "maybe I'll do you the favor of doing business with you in the future if you'll fore-go your pittance of a service fee for this transfer". Which, in reality means, "Fat chance, dude. I can get a cheaper price from an online dealer and reluctantly pay your $25 fee. But first I'll string you along a little bit and make a few phone calls to you and have you waste your time looking up a price and/or delivery time for my special order just to make you feel good." This is the customer that doesn't understand their $25, while a nice token, isn't really going to "save" the company from bankruptcy.

So, my suggestion to those of you looking for a "friendly" FFL to do your transfers, is to look at how you want to be treated and then put yourself into the dealer's shoes. They like to be treated nicely, too.

The $20 - $25 transfer fee you pay today could be one of the best professional relationship investments you make in the long run.

THIS!
X10,000

Excellent post Bailey! You have succinctly defined why I have no desire to conduct retail/transfers and sales.
I am perfectly happy working on firearms as opposed to selling and or transferring firearms. I know I am losing money by not doing so but to me at this stage of the business it just is not worth the aggravation for the low return.
Sorta like doing an action job on a Taurus, too much time for too little return.

If I want to make money selling anything it will be womens lingerie and yes, I will offer custom fittings[Muaha]

[Bailey Guns]

Forgot to mention...

My perspective was written after receiving a phone call yesterday from a guy who's waiting on a transfer to come in. Just the tone of his call left me with a bad taste in my mouth. The gun isn't here and he's calling me to find out why with a real attitude in his voice on the message. Since I didn't ship the gun I suggested maybe he should call the dealer that did ship the gun to find out why.

This is the type of thing I'm talking about. Sometimes, $25 ain't worth the brain damage.

[Bailey Guns]

Sorta like doing an action job on a Taurus, too much time for too little return.

I don't know why...well, yeah, I do...but this made me laugh out loud!

[Beer]

Thanks, BP. I was hoping someone would understand.

[Monky]

Perhaps the OP meant an FFL who understands that the customer got a better deal and isn't going to harass him about not 'supporting the local guy'. Dealing with a piss poor attitude from the operators of said store about the transfer..

I'm all for supporting the local guy.. I understand what it takes to run a business. I also understand that in order to have repeat customers you can't treat people with disrespect, or talk down to them. It is your choice to deal with the idiots of the world by having a store that sells to the general populace.. if you don't want people using you for a transfer try to turn them into customers.. instead of posting a rant on the internet about the BS you deal with.

I did a transfer at a store.. and I'm not kidding you I saved $200 after the transfer cost than if I had purchased from them, and even got the item w/ trijicon sights on it. All I heard when I went to do the xfer 'why didn't you just buy it here', 'we don't HAVE to do xfers'. I have neither purchased an item from them since then nor used them for an xfer.

Perhaps the OP has dealt with this same thing.

[Bailey Guns]

Treating people with disrespect and "talking down to them" is a two-way street, my friend. If you expect a certain level of customer service don't go into the customer/businessman relationship with that same piss-poor attitude.

I run my business outta my house now. For the previous 8 years I had a very successful storefront. Everyone always got the best price I could manage and still cover the bills.

Here's a true story:

Customer calls me one day telling me he's got a screaming deal online on a certain gun. Then he says, "I'm just calling to see if you can beat that price. I doubt it 'cause businesses in Bailey always just want to rip people off. If you can beat the price I'll do ya a favor and buy it from you."

"OK," I think to myself. "This guys a jerk but he is offering me the chance to earn his business."

"What gun is it and what're you paying for the gun and shipping? Don't forget to add the transfer fee."

He tells me and I don't remember what it was. It was a rifle from one of the Italian makers...Uberti, maybe. Total cost delivered including transfer fee was something like $1386 if I recall correctly. I told him I'd call him back.

So, I look up the gun. $775 dealer cost, with about $15 shipping. Now, normally, I would've quoted the guy about 10% over that cost with a few (2 - 3) points added in for credit card fees. It was under $900 out the door.

But, I remembered the conversation we had and decided to do exactly what he wanted. I gave him a quote of $1375 out the door...tax, title, license,dealer prep and delivery included.

He was happy and said, "Order it up. Here's my CC info." Of course, I was happy, too.

Moral of the story? I dunno. Maybe it's just that sometimes you get out of a relationship what you put into it.

And BTW...I never said I minded doing transfers. As a matter of fact, I love doing transfers for the majority of customers who understand a business relationship. What bothered me was doing transfers for people who thought I was their whipping boy and their $20 or $25 was the last few bucks I needed to keep me out of the poor house or buy that new Mercedes. I've probably done as many transfers at $0 as I have at $20 or $25.

[Lex_Luthor]

Freedom First Firearms
110 West 70th Avenue
Denver, Colorado 80221
303-428-4700

I'm going to have to check out this store, it's only a few blocks from where I live. :)

[TFOGGER]

I feel for ya, Bailey. I am also in a business with intense online competition. There's always some whore out there that's willing to make $4 on a tire and $2 on the shipping. That is why I charge more to mount tires bought somewhere else. I already have the lowest local price 99% of the time, and by far the least expensive labor, and guys want to nickel and dime me over a $3 dollar difference in price. Then they want to call me and get free mechanical advice, when the bike doesn't run right after they misinstall the parts they bought online. And I have to be nice, because if I'm a d!ck, they'll plaster it all over a bazillion online forums....rrrrr.......need more caffeine......

[Bailey Guns]

Bingo, TFOGGER. Then that same person will be the first one to bitch when there isn't a decent place nearby to get his bike serviced or his tires mounted.

[Byte Stryke]

Perhaps the OP meant an FFL who understands that the customer got a better deal and isn't going to harass him about not 'supporting the local guy'. Dealing with a piss poor attitude from the operators of said store about the transfer..

I'm all for supporting the local guy.. I understand what it takes to run a business. I also understand that in order to have repeat customers you can't treat people with disrespect, or talk down to them. It is your choice to deal with the idiots of the world by having a store that sells to the general populace.. if you don't want people using you for a transfer try to turn them into customers.. instead of posting a rant on the internet about the BS you deal with.

I did a transfer at a store.. and I'm not kidding you I saved $200 after the transfer cost than if I had purchased from them, and even got the item w/ trijicon sights on it. All I heard when I went to do the xfer 'why didn't you just buy it here', 'we don't HAVE to do xfers'. I have neither purchased an item from them since then nor used them for an xfer.

Perhaps the OP has dealt with this same thing.

+1

been here, been subjected to this.

I Wasn't the guy calling the FFL Receiver. Call me crazy, but I Called the Seller, got a tracking number and called the Carrier.
Get this... it worked!

Retailer transfers are horrible because the employees dont actually give a shit if you come back or not. They are hourly cogs that may or may not be there in 6 months. They are simply aggravated that they aren't getting a commission percentage from selling you the same weapon at an exaggerated price.

I Fully sympathize with Bailey Guns, most people placed into customer mode are selfish, stupid and short sighted.

[cwripinz]

... Maybe I'm being a little over-sensitive. Maybe I'm reading more into this post than I really should. But posts like this really rub me the wrong way...

Wow... as I read many of these responses I have one overriding thing to say...

OK, guys... CHILL.[Stick]

First, I did look at the Businesses Listed... I did not see anyone specifically mention "Transfer" Services, rates or references to support these activities. If you would like to get some of this "minimal grief", "gravy" business, maybe you want to put this somewhere... oh, I don't know... NEAR THE TOP of your Business post? Especially since it was pointed out that "...we get one of these (requests) nearly once a month". [Dunno]

Search Function? FFL is THREE Letters... the search function BARFS with less than FOUR. So Searches for things like SKS, AP9, 9mm, .40 cal, 308, .45, 223, FN, FAL, Sig, H&K... and, oh yeah, FFL get REJECTED! These are such uncommon terms that I can totally understand them not being relevant search terms... NOT! Problem, maybe?

Next... I have not purchased a Firearm through a Dealer in 25-ish years. All of my purchases have all been FTF Since I Relinquished My Own FFL nearly a quarter century ago. I hold a BATFE Category VII Tank, Armored Vehicle and Military Truck Importer Registration and the Combination of FFL and Cat. VII served to attract far too much scrutiny from "Alphabet Soup" Agencies. I really only need 1 rectal-exam a year, thank you very much. So, as such, I cannot handle Commercial Transactions & Transfers of "little" guns... Howitzers, SCUDS, 105mm, 120mm I Can Handle. I am now seeking out a FRIENDLY FFL HOLDER. Not the Cheapest. Not someone Dishonest. F-R-I-E-N-D-L-Y. As in Amiable, Knowledgable and Capable of Sharing that Knowledge, an all-round "Good-Guy" ... or "Good-Gal"... as the case may be and one that would not get too deep into my wallet. I posted here to solicit OPINIONS of various FFL Holders. A retelling of past experiences... both good (as recommendation) and bad (as warning).[Rant2]

So... unbunch your panties, girls! And quit your irrelevant whining and [Censor] bitching. [Rant1]

And... as far as any "rubbing" is concerned... I NEVER [B]TOUCHED YOU 'BAILEY GUNS'! I don't care WHAT that Video Tape shows!! But if I ever did, I would probably be able to figure out how not to do it the "Wrong Way"! [Stooge]

OK Gentlemen. Gauntlet Down. Ready, break! Prep your Seconds, back to your freakin' corners and come out SWINGING![NunChaku]

[Byte Stryke]

Wow... as I read many of these responses I have one overriding thing to say...

OK, guys... CHILL.[Stick]

First, I did look at the Businesses Listed... I did not see anyone specifically mention "Transfer" Services, rates or references to support these activities. If you would like to get some of this "minimal grief", "gravy" business, maybe you want to put this somewhere... oh, I don't know... NEAR THE TOP of your Business post? Especially since it was pointed out that "...we get one of these (requests) nearly once a month". [Dunno]

Search Function? FFL is THREE Letters... the search function BARFS with less than FOUR. So Searches for things like SKS, AP9, 9mm, .40 cal, 308, .45, 223, FN, FAL, Sig, H&K... and, oh yeah, FFL get REJECTED! These are such uncommon terms that I can totally understand them not being relevant search terms... NOT! Problem, maybe?

Next... I have not purchased a Firearm through a Dealer in 25-ish years. All of my purchases have all been FTF Since I Relinquished My Own FFL nearly a quarter century ago. I hold a BATFE Category VII Tank, Armored Vehicle and Military Truck Importer Registration and the Combination of FFL and Cat. VII served to attract far too much scrutiny from "Alphabet Soup" Agencies. I really only need 1 rectal-exam a year, thank you very much. So, as such, I cannot handle Commercial Transactions & Transfers of "little" guns... Howitzers, SCUDS, 105mm, 120mm I Can Handle. I am now seeking out a FRIENDLY FFL HOLDER. Not the Cheapest. Not someone Dishonest. F-R-I-E-N-D-L-Y. As in Amiable, Knowledgable and Capable of Sharing that Knowledge, an all-round "Good-Guy" ... or "Good-Gal"... as the case may be and one that would not get too deep into my wallet. I posted here to solicit OPINIONS of various FFL Holders. A retelling of past experiences... both good (as recommendation) and bad (as warning).[Rant2]

So... unbunch your panties, girls! And quit your irrelevant whining and [Censor] bitching. [Rant1]

And... as far as any "rubbing" is concerned... I NEVER [B]TOUCHED YOU 'BAILEY GUNS'! I don't care WHAT that Video Tape shows!! But if I ever did, I would probably be able to figure out how not to do it the "Wrong Way"! [Stooge]

OK Gentlemen. Gauntlet Down. Ready, break! Prep your Seconds, back to your freakin' corners and come out SWINGING![NunChaku]



Holy SH*T!


78 posts out and he winz teh internetz!111!!!!

I laughed so hard I blew coffee out of my nose.

[ghettodub]

78 posts out and he winz teh internetz!111!!!!



[ROFL1]

[hurley842002]

Holy SH*T!


78 posts out and he winz teh internetz!111!!!!

I laughed so hard I blew coffee out of my nose.

[ROFL1][ROFL1] Same here [Coffee]

[Lex_Luthor]

i choked on my sandwich.

[Marlin]

Meh, 6.5/10


Well constructed and easy to read though..

[hollohas]

I am going to have to stick up for the OP on this one. He said he was looking for a friendly person to do business with. I did not get the impression that he was looking for someone to screw over or someone to hold responsible for anything that goes wrong. He didn't say he wanted a FFL that he could be a dick to or that he could take advantage of. He was looking for a nice guy to help him buy some guns.

In his words, chill out. Bailey, this guy could have been a customer of yours. He clearly wanted to work with someone the people on here know and trust. Maybe he would have found that you could get him what he wanted instead of doing a transfer. But instead you jump his case just for asking if anyone knew anyone that could help him. Is that how you treat all potential customers? He wasn't a dick to you but you got on his case anyway. So if someone else came to you asking to buy something would you just assume they were a dick and treat them like they screwed you over before they even said anything??? Don't bunch the OP in with all your past negative experiences.

[hollohas]

Dude, cwripinz, if you really deal in tanks that's bad ass. [Troops]

[TFOGGER]

When I win Powerball, put me down for a 105......

[Bailey Guns]

I am going to have to stick up for the OP on this one. He said he was looking for a friendly person to do business with. I did not get the impression that he was looking for someone to screw over or someone to hold responsible for anything that goes wrong. He didn't say he wanted a FFL that he could be a dick to or that he could take advantage of. He was looking for a nice guy to help him buy some guns.

In his words, chill out. Bailey, this guy could have been a customer of yours. He clearly wanted to work with someone the people on here know and trust. Maybe he would have found that you could get him what he wanted instead of doing a transfer. But instead you jump his case just for asking if anyone knew anyone that could help him. Is that how you treat all potential customers? He wasn't a dick to you but you got on his case anyway. So if someone else came to you asking to buy something would you just assume they were a dick and treat them like they screwed you over before they even said anything??? Don't bunch the OP in with all your past negative experiences.

I think if you'll reread what I wrote, you'll get answers to all your questions.

Not to mention Bailey is probably a little far for him to travel for a transfer.

[cwripinz]

Dude, cwripinz, if you really deal in tanks that's bad ass. [Troops]

www.coldwarremarketing.com (http://www.coldwarremarketing.com)

[Geology Rocks]

www.coldwarremarketing.com (http://www.coldwarremarketing.com)


there is so much win on that website its not even funny. i want one of everything

joe

[tonantius]

I encourage everyone to try to buy from a local dealer if possible. I used Gun Genie to order a firearm and used a local dealer for the entire transaction. The dealer got to buy the gun at wholesale and sold it to me for less than MSRP. I did have to pay sales tax, but I helping to keep my dealer in business. After all, if you want to touch it and feel it before you buy, that is what the dealers are for.

But I know that sometimes you have to do a transfer for what ever reason. I like TJ's Gunsmithing in Aurora.

[Hawk]

I like those thoughts on the dealer thing, but it jolts the senses to read some of these comments coming from some names that I've seen here for so long. It somehow doesn't match-up with what's been established in my mind's eye.

As far as any less attractive aspects of business(s) are concerned, I, like most here could probably offer up individuals who would win that category handily over the dealer "hardships" being outlined here. Especially considering what (and how much) they have to put up with every day. All would go far beyond the occasional inventory, paperwork or personality duties and concerns.

I would guess for every soul that doesn't dig doing the whole FFL/transfer thing, there would be at least two others lining up to fill the void if the need were strong enough. I would go further and believe that most of those would be of the type that the OP is searching for anyway.

[Not_A_Llama]

I'd go with Bill Stark.

He's nice, and doesn't charge much.

[waxthis]

I encourage everyone to try to buy from a local dealer if possible. I used Gun Genie to order a firearm and used a local dealer for the entire transaction. The dealer got to buy the gun at wholesale and sold it to me for less than MSRP. I did have to pay sales tax, but I helping to keep my dealer in business. After all, if you want to touch it and feel it before you buy, that is what the dealers are for.

But I know that sometimes you have to do a transfer for what ever reason. I like TJ's Gunsmithing in Aurora.

That is a great idea. Site is awsome!
[Beer]

[hollohas]

www.coldwarremarketing.com (http://www.coldwarremarketing.com)

I was right. Bad Ass.

[Ah Pook]

Very well said, Carl.




Holy SH*T!


78 posts out and he winz teh internetz!111!!!!

I laughed so hard I blew coffee out of my nose.
Dammit! Now I have beer foam running out my nose and a sticky keyboard. [Rant2] :D

[Pop]

[Colorado Luckydog]

I didn't know my opinion could be changed so drastically in just one thread.

Alpha Pawn in Englewood is great. I have done several transfers there. They are really friendly and appreciate your business. I know some of the local Police Departments use them also. They are on South Broadway just south of Hampden.(285)

[jerrymrc]

I think it is very important to build a relationship with your FFL. I guess if you are only going to do a couple (yea, right) then looking for the cheapest might be the way to go.

I am also reminded by the many true stories about FFL's that do not know a particular firearm and it's quirks. That one can and has got ugly quick.

I like my FFL and the staff. I can order something and have it sent. They know the ins and out of some of the toys I like and do not freak out when the selector goes to "auto". [Beer]

Though I have not dealt with the FFL's in this thread I do understand there issues.

Sometimes the newer guys need to realize that buying a gun is not like Burger King. There is no drive through and you can't have it your way.

The flip side is that the FFL's stop doing transfers and one is left with nothing but retail. Just some thoughts. [Tooth]

[SkyTech]

Let's not forget us to the south.

Any of these friendly FFL's with good attitudes and prices along my regularly traveled route from Monument to the North Co. Springs?

[funkfool]

I thought BG's response was spot on...
As a note here:
Bailey Guns did my Kimber Eclipse Pro Carry way back in '04 or so...
I used him because he was a buddy of a buddy - didn't know me from Adam...
I found a great price online ($879? IIRC), called and gave him the pertinent details and about a week later I drove from Colorado Springs to Bailey and picked it up - also picked up a few items that I needed... spare mag, some ammo and targets etc..
I found him to be courteous, concise and an all around friendly guy.
I didn't think about, nor ask for a discount because he was a 'friend of a friend' - I paid what he charged and assumed it was the price he placed upon his time and effort for that specific process.
Yeah - I drove a good piece to get there... but it was a nice drive and a buddy let me drive his beemer, so I had a great time, a good lunch next door and got a good price on the exact gun I wanted....
I could have used someone in the Springs... but hey... WTF.
BTW - Thanks Carl - I still have that one... I will always have the Kimber!
(Multiple ellipses for Big Bear)

[Hawk]

I didn't think about, nor ask for a discount because he was a 'friend of a friend' - I paid what he charged ...

Yeah - I drove a good piece to get there...

I could have used someone in the Springs... but hey... WTF.




I respect those opinions but also believe there are some folks that would like to approach their discretionary income expenditures more carefully when it comes to gasoline and equipment prices.

Just sayin'.

[rondog]

I'd go with Bill Stark.

He's nice, and doesn't charge much.

That's why I mentioned him. AFAIK, he's retired and just does transfers for extra income, but I ain't swearin' to that. I've used his services a few times, always a good experience. I found out about him here, as a matter of fact. He's kinda near Park Meadows Mall, around I-25 and Dry Creek, I think it is. Just a few blocks west of I-25.

I believe he does prefer that you come by first and fill out the paperwork, then come pick up the gun when it arrives. But call him first and get the poop.

[thrashdady]

For the Springs, I found these guys to be great, and that is all they do Transfers, so no running into grumpy Gun store owners [LOL]

http://www.thegunoutlet.com/

Hope it's ok to post since they are not Partners, I couldn't really find one for CS. If I'm out of bounds pls LMK


Let's not forget us to the south.

Any of these friendly FFL's with good attitudes and prices along my regularly traveled route from Monument to the North Co. Springs?

[funkfool]

I respect those opinions but also believe there are some folks that would like to approach their discretionary income expenditures more carefully when it comes to gasoline and equipment prices.

Just sayin'.
I understand... the gun was like 900... so 15 for gas and 20 for transfer was under 5% of the overall purchase...
Percentage wise... not a big deal... now if it were a 450 gun... it would come up to a whopping 8%.
If you can afford to buy a gun... you can afford the transfer.
Nitpicking over 25 bucks on a 500 dollar deal is like spending an hour of your time trying to get out of doing a 5 minute task.
Just my opinion.
And you know what they say about opinions.
[Beer]

[hollohas]

I understand... the gun was like 900... so 15 for gas and 20 for transfer was under 0.05% of the overall purchase...
Percentage wise... not a big deal... now if it were a 450 gun... it would come up to a whopping ~0.08%.
If you can afford to buy a gun... you can afford the transfer.
Nitpicking over 25 bucks on a 500 dollar deal is like spending an hour of your time trying to get out of doing a 5 minute task.
Just my opinion.
And you know what they say about opinions.
[Beer]

I think you better check your math...[Coffee]

[funkfool]

I think you better check your math...[Coffee]
Oops... my use of percentage symbol...

it is actually 4% and 8%
Good catch.

900*0.05=45
(yeah it is more than 35 but - just an estimate - 0.04 is 36...)

450*0.08=36

Fixed...

[hollohas]

Ok - let's do that...
900*0.05=45
(yeah it is more than 35 but - just an estimate - 0.04 is 36...)

450*0.08=36
Math seems ok to me...

You said .05% and .08%...the correct answer is 4% and 8%.

[funkfool]

You said .05% and .08%...the correct answer is 4% and 8%.
Yep... I was wrong.
Damn... first time too![Coffee]

[hollohas]

Yep... I was wrong.
Damn... first time too![Coffee]

Hey, no biggie. Mostly giving you a hard time. [Stooge]

[jgang]

So, would it be prudent to make a sticky of FFL holders willing to do transfers or no? Seems like there's quite a few not on the IP list.