PDA

View Full Version : To sell or not to sell?


trlcavscout
03-08-2011, 20:56
I really like my BCM 14.5 middy upper but I am having ammo issues? I have shot some Federal and havent noticed any issues, but when I reloaded a few hundred rounds they are unuseable in it. I just had 500rds done by Bullet Boy and they to are unuseable? I get a few shots then its jam clearing for a few. I have gotten to fully use the BAD lever trying to shoot this thing. Not bashing Bullet boy, he offered to redo them to make them work. I also tried some surplus and its a no go so my question is should I even mess with it? I dont need a gun that is finicky and only eats certain stuff! But I really like the upper. I bought it complete with BCG and gun fighter charging handle and its awesome! What to do? Another 150rds down range today at the indoor range $20/hr trying to get the kinks worked out because I didnt want to waste gas going to the grasslands knowing it may not work. I also dont want to spend anymore money even to have it shipped back to BCM.

I just get frustrated when shit dont work right!
HBARleatherneck
03-08-2011, 21:02
how much?

i have two mid length rock rivers and they function flawless with reloads, wolf, brown bear, etc. etc. So, I wonder what the problem is? Anyway your plumbing is clogged? You could check from the receiver all the way to the gas block.
kidicarus13
03-08-2011, 21:02
"I dont need a gun that is finicky and only eats certain stuff!"

There you go, you answered your own question.

"But I really like the upper"

You sound like a victim of domestic violence. GET RID OF IT
trlcavscout
03-08-2011, 21:30
how much?

i have two mid length rock rivers and they function flawless with reloads, wolf, brown bear, etc. etc. So, I wonder what the problem is? Anyway your plumbing is clogged? You could check from the receiver all the way to the gas block.


It wont even go into battery some of the time, it sticks and you have to tap it to pull the charging handle to get the live round out, it doesnt feed right etc. If I keep it I would be stuck with factory ammo it looks like.
esaabye
03-08-2011, 21:35
It wont even go into battery some of the time, it sticks and you have to tap it to pull the charging handle to get the live round out, it doesnt feed right etc. If I keep it I would be stuck with factory ammo it looks like.

What did you pay for it? Also, I was looking at one of those, what is the weight?
HBARleatherneck
03-08-2011, 21:43
It wont even go into battery some of the time, it sticks and you have to tap it to pull the charging handle to get the live round out, it doesnt feed right etc. If I keep it I would be stuck with factory ammo it looks like.

bring it to me. i will work on it, or, if, it were mine, i would polish the bolt, and maybe the bolt carrier as well. i do that on almost all my pistols and rifles. polish feed ramps, polish everything. slick works better.

here we can shoot it, work on it, shoot it. try different ammo.
trlcavscout
03-08-2011, 22:26
What did you pay for it? Also, I was looking at one of those, what is the weight?

It was like $385 plus $44 (handle) plus $135 for BCG, I dont know on the weight but its pretty light. Ran great the first couple outings on factory ammo.


bring it to me. i will work on it, or, if, it were mine, i would polish the bolt, and maybe the bolt carrier as well. i do that on almost all my pistols and rifles. polish feed ramps, polish everything. slick works better.

here we can shoot it, work on it, shoot it. try different ammo.

PM sent
YammyMonkey
03-08-2011, 22:55
Call & talk to someone at BCM before you start messing with anything. They will take care of you.
trlcavscout
03-08-2011, 23:17
Call & talk to someone at BCM before you start messing with anything. They will take care of you.


Its not their problem it wont shoot "cheap" ammo, also if they are like most manufacturers as soon as you say reloads they will tell you to pound sand.
Great-Kazoo
03-08-2011, 23:17
bring it to me. i will work on it, or, if, it were mine, i would polish the bolt, and maybe the bolt carrier as well. i do that on almost all my pistols and rifles. polish feed ramps, polish everything. slick works better.

here we can shoot it, work on it, shoot it. try different ammo.

This

run out to Chris's place or swing by here. I'd talk to BCM first. IF you are still not happy i have an upper we could probably work out some sort of deal on.
Ah Pook
03-08-2011, 23:43
When, in this saga, did you have the problems with the reloads? It sounded like the reloads had some crimping issues, causing the round to stick in the barrel. Close?

Reloads or not, if it's a new upper, I'd call BCM.

I hate it when schtuff don't work. :mad:
Jmetz
03-09-2011, 00:12
Its not their problem it wont shoot "cheap" ammo, also if they are like most manufacturers as soon as you say reloads they will tell you to pound sand.


So far in the level of customer service I've seen from them I think they would work with you.
trlcavscout
03-10-2011, 21:42
I am gonna shoot some different factory ammo out of it this weekend. If it doesnt work through them I will call BCM.
ldmaster
03-11-2011, 02:21
How you have a lot of people that will "do you a favor" and trade you one of their uppers for it?

Always good for a laugh!

Your upper is suffering from a gas, inertia and timing problem. Do you use the heavy buffer? Without it army M4's were having problems with timing - Colt now installs ONLY heavy buffers in it's carbines.

Pigtail gas tube would help. Chrono a few factory rounds, if they seem especially "hot" then the gas tube isn't bleeding enough pressure, too low and it's bleeding too much and causing timing problems. either way the manufacturer shouldn't have a problem fixing it for you.

Colt is also mandating the use of the FA bolt carrier, again, the weight of the carrier was affecting timing in their M4's.

I have a 14.5inch w phantom, and the heavy buffer and FA bolt carrier - never had a burp from anything aside from brain dead problems.