Stem Cell Research Ban Overturned By U.S. Appeals

[Mtn.man]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/04/2 ... 55448.html (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/04/29/stem-cell-research-ban-ruling_n_855448.html)

[Hoosier]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/04/2 ... 55448.html (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/04/29/stem-cell-research-ban-ruling_n_855448.html)

FWIW, HuffPo is an awful place to get news from

H.

[Mtn.man]

Only one seemingly reporting on this.
Everyone else is slobbering over the wedding.

[Pancho Villa]

I don't want federal (or state) funding of *any* research, but cherry picking one type in particular for purely religious reasons strikes me as obnoxious.

Nothing worse than doing the right thing for the wrong reasons.

[gcrookston]

Only one seemingly reporting on this.
Everyone else is slobbering over the wedding.

It was reported on NPR today also

[Byte Stryke]

I don't want federal (or state) funding of *any* research, but cherry picking one type in particular for purely religious reasons strikes me as obnoxious.

Nothing worse than doing the right thing for the wrong reasons.


dammit, now why you gotta go saying that, making me agree with you?
[ROFL1]

reminds me of some bible belt states that make laws regarding Sunday simply because "Ya'll should be in Church, Boy."

I Say we get rid of bigamy laws as well.
Anyone lucky enough, dumb enough or crazy enough to have more than one wife should be allowed.

[Pancho Villa]

dammit, now why you gotta go saying that, making me agree with you?
[ROFL1]

reminds me of some bible belt states that make laws regarding Sunday simply because "Ya'll should be in Church, Boy."

I Say we get rid of bigamy laws as well.
Anyone lucky enough, dumb enough or crazy enough to have more than one wife should be allowed.

You could also just try swinging. That could be fun, too.

...what?

[Irving]

Polygamy?

;)

[Clint45]

reminds me of some bible belt states that make laws regarding Sunday simply because "Ya'll should be in Church, Boy."

I Say we get rid of bigamy laws as well.
Anyone lucky enough, dumb enough or crazy enough to have more than one wife should be allowed.

There are a lot of weird and unconstitutional laws out there.

Some states make it illegal to own firearms without an official permission slip.

Some states make it illegal for an unmarried man and woman to spend the night in the same house. These states often make it illegal for a married couple to engage in oral sex as well. I think in Alabama it is still a crime for a woman to order a vibrator through the mail.

Some municipal ordinances are just as bad. Many towns and counties are "dry" and no alcohol can be sold there. I remember one Southern city that wanted to start charging people with "indecent exposure" if a policeman could see their underwear.

When the government starts meddling too much in people's private lives, people resent it and lose respect for the law.

[mcantar18c]

I don't want federal (or state) funding of *any* research, but cherry picking one type in particular for purely religious reasons strikes me as obnoxious.

Nothing worse than doing the right thing for the wrong reasons.

Who does probably the most research out of any person or organization? DARPA and Army.
Where do DARPA and the Army get their funding? The govt.
Where does the govt get its money? Your taxes.
And I'm completely OK with that.

Privately owned research facilities on the other hand, they can find their own damn funding.



I remember one Southern city that wanted to start charging people with "indecent exposure" if a policeman could see their underwear.

On one hand, unless somebody is causing some kind of harm to others, the gov has no place telling people what they can and can't do.
But on the other, I wouldn't really mind that particular law... all these kids walking around with their pants so far down they can go take a piss without adjusting anything just look ridiculous.

[Hoosier]

Who does probably the most research out of any person or organization? DARPA and Army.


Perhaps as individual entities, but I believe grants to college research departments collectively would be a larger dollar amount. I'd have to research it to be sure. There is also the DOE National Labs, e.g. Sandia, Oak Ridge, Fermilab, etc... and NASA. More recently we've been seeing "Challenges" used to get a lot of good research kickstarted on the cheap. For example, the DARPA Grand Challenges in autonomous vehicles, NASA runs several (lunar regolith, space elevator), and the (non government) Google Lunar Challenge, and the reusable private suborbital ride that Scaled Composites won.

US companies benefit from this research. Many of them don't do pure theory research anymore, because the return on investment is too long range to keep Wall Street happy, and that's a sad thing. IBM and Microsoft both dumped large amounts of cash into R&D, and I think it'll start paying off for MSFT in the next couple years.

I bet if we looked at that "where did my tax dollars go" site I posted a few weeks ago, added up every bit of R&D that the government pays for, it'd only be a few dollars out of our pocket. I'm totally OK with that.

H.

[Pancho Villa]

Interesting fact: before current (ridiculous) tax rates and (ridiculous) regulations were in place, most medium-big and larger companies could afford (and did run) their own research departments.

The reason you see so little privately funded research is because the government is taking that money and using it for other things. Which is then used as a justification for...publically funded research.

Its an awesome con game when you think about it. Cause a problem and then propose more of what caused it as the solution.

[970TJ]

Just to clear something up. Stem cell research isn't banned, just it being funded by the taxpayers. There is plenty of funding for the research from private parties, and I don't really agree with the taxpayers paying for something that isn't completely proven to work. I've been looking into getting a stem cell transplant but I can't afford to go to Germany, Costa Rica, or somewhere to get it done. I just wish the FDA would approve the treatments so it could be done in country.[Bang]

[970TJ]

And I don't claim to be in the know on where the funding comes from, but it is being done nontheless.

[Clint45]

On one hand, unless somebody is causing some kind of harm to others, the gov has no place telling people what they can and can't do.
But on the other, I wouldn't really mind that particular law... all these kids walking around with their pants so far down they can go take a piss without adjusting anything just look ridiculous.

The thing is, some old prude wanted to file charges against pretty girls with thong underwear. Same guy wanted to yank the liquor licenses of restaurants and clubs on the beach that allowed girls in bikinis through the doors. Law was shouted down by Black community leaders who said that showing dey underwears be, like, part of dey culture and dey be all oppressed by racist po-lice. So now the pretty girls can wear their thongs without being arrested.

[Byte Stryke]

So now the pretty girls can wear their thongs without being arrested.

and all was right with the world

[Ridge]

I got a truck full of freshly aborted fetuses I'm willing to sell to the highest bidder for stem cell research.

[Irving]

Buddy of mine had a miscarriage and he went out of his way to ask, and then donate their unborn fetus to stem cell research. No abortion involved.

[Byte Stryke]

Buddy of mine had a miscarriage and he went out of his way to ask, and then donate their unborn fetus to stem cell research. No abortion involved.

this lends itself to a plethora of jokes from DADT to your standard Tranny variety jokes...


but for the life of me I just cannot do it today.

[Mtn.man]

I have a client Top 5 in the world of horse and large animal care. took are of many Kentucky D horses.

I have seen the results of using YOUR own stem cells to fix/cure arthritis. So joke all you want but when you get there you will cry HELP me.

It has nothing to do with fetus's read learn and get educated.
That is what is wrong with the US today lack of learning.

[Guylee]

I got a truck full of freshly aborted fetuses I'm willing to sell to the highest bidder for stem cell research.

I'll take 'em, Cartman.

You're really breakin' my balls though.

[Ridge]

Finally someone got the reference!