View Full Version : Shooting Range Blamed for Fires?
Birddog1911
06-27-2011, 21:42
I was listening to 630 AM this afternoon, and I caught a quick quip about people in Boulder blaming a shooting range for the fires recently. One woman stated that this isn't the first time.
Anyone up north have any information on this? Any possible truth, or just another anti-gunner trying to get the range shut down? And could this be the North range; I've never been there.
Zundfolge
06-27-2011, 21:46
Any possible truth, or just another anti-gunner trying to get the range shut down?
Couldn't it be both?
Birddog1911
06-27-2011, 21:47
Couldn't it be both?
Of course that is a possibility.
THe Yetti
06-27-2011, 21:58
It's not the north site, that's been closed for a while. It is not any of the other common areas for shooting either. It is down by Buckingham park if I saw the map properly, which is Boulder mountain parks-so no shooting there. Blaming shooters (or 4x4's) for anything is standard Boulder practice.
I'm sure if it were nature lovers having a medicinal gathering to become one with Bambi who thought the roach was extinguished would be accepted by the populous.
My cousin said he was up there and it started close to a road indicating probably a cigarette or maybe a a doobie.
This always bugs me. Maybe it is, probably isn't. Recently I was up near the South Site with my wife shooting, and as we went in a bunch of hippie Subaru types were camping near the road. Hours later as we left we were driving by their now empty camp site and saw their fire still going. Wasted all of our water putting it out. I figured if it spread shooters might catch the blame for it. The South Site no less! It already burned down once, its not hard to figure out what might happen up there.
[Bang]
I went camping up at Guanella last weekend and a lady came up and said "please move your Jeep, we're going to pull our 5th wheel in here", so I told her "you're welcome to but I'm going to be shooting near where you want to be camping", she got really pissed off and told me "you can't shoot here, it's illegal", I politely corrected her on that topic and she went away. The funny thing is that she and her 5th wheel built a bonfire, near the trees, in the prairie, with a fire ban in effect. It was pretty chilly that night and I would have loved to have a fire but no way I'm going to set the state on fire just because I want to be warm.
On the topic of shooting up there, I had never seen posted signs for "shooting rules" in a park before, it was actually kind of cool to see.
This always bugs me. Maybe it is, probably isn't. Recently I was up near the South Site with my wife shooting, and as we went in a bunch of hippie Subaru types were camping near the road. Hours later as we left we were driving by their now empty camp site and saw their fire still going. Wasted all of our water putting it out. I figured if it spread shooters might catch the blame for it. The South Site no less! It already burned down once, its not hard to figure out what might happen up there.
[Bang]
found out how that fire at south site started ,gonna leave it at that (dont want to ruin it for us by sighting another bad example )
some fires are shooters but most are regular folks being loose with there smoking stuffs .
What the hell do you need a bonfire for when you have a 5th wheel?
What the hell do you need a bonfire for when you have a 5th wheel?
To complete the camping experience I suppose... Or to cheer for your favorite college team :).
68Charger
06-28-2011, 09:16
To complete the camping experience I suppose... Or to cheer for your favorite college team :).
with a 5th wheel?
that's not camping, that's RV'ing... to each their own, I guess
with a 5th wheel?
that's not camping, that's RV'ing... to each their own, I guess
yeah thats hardly camping , reminds me of the last time i went to the grand canyon . me and the folks in the site next to me almost came to blows over there generator and TV set up out side blaring away . rv campers for the most part suck !
Zundfolge
06-28-2011, 09:37
I don't get RVing.
Camping makes sense to me (even though I don't like it) ... but if you're going to RV you might as well rent a cabin or stay in a nice hotel (you seen what those things cost!?).
Anyway, I suspect if the fire was started close to the road that it was probably smokers. That or maybe a vehicle.
The official cause of the"Maxwell" fire in Lefthand Canyon is being listed as an unattended campfire. Send that to 9news and tell them to quit slandering shooters.
yeah thats hardly camping , reminds me of the last time i went to the grand canyon . me and the folks in the site next to me almost came to blows over there generator and TV set up out side blaring away . rv campers for the most part suck !
Those are discourteous RV'ers, most are quite polite. I, for one, do both. I take my camper when I want to have a great view in nature, want to still do things like campfires and the like. When I rough it, I rough it, as in a backpack only and make fires from scratch - i.e., no helpers - but when I comfort camp I comfort camp and get far better views then if I rent a cabin somewhere.
A few decades ago, a man was sitting at his desk thinking, "How can I invent a product that combines all the maintenance and expense of owning a house AND a vehicle at the same time, but that offers slightly less value than either product on it's own?"
And then the RV was born. ;)
Sadly the Lefthand area is out of control. My bet would be some partyers left a fire going. It's not just shooting and off-roading up there, even though they are the most visible. Sadly, the shooters don't help the situation.
Sadly, the shooters don't help the situation.
tuesday thats gonna start to change [Flower]
tuesday thats gonna start to change [Flower]
tuesday thats gonna start to change [Flower]
This Tuesday? Time?
This Tuesday? Time?
i should be well under way by 10 , its probably gonna take a few to make a plan also as far as i know the road (dirt) is still blocked off , so the hard part will be hauling all the mess back to the main road .
i should be well under way by 10 , its probably gonna take a few to make a plan also as far as i know the road (dirt) is still blocked off , so the hard part will be hauling all the mess back to the main road .
I can be there til about 2:00.
Haven't been in that area for a while. Is the dirt road gated at Lefthand Canyon Dr? The best I can offer is a truckbed trailer to haul stuff.
I can be there til about 2:00.
Haven't been in that area for a while. Is the dirt road gated at Lefthand Canyon Dr? The best I can offer is a truckbed trailer to haul stuff.
ill have the pick up for that one , no road is blocked by a caution tape and a small road block , it could be moved but i just assume leave it (might slow down the flow of trash . if this week goes well ill contact the park service and ask if we can drive up for a larger weekend clean up
Post up on www.colorado4x4.org (http://www.colorado4x4.org/vbb/index.php?) if you decide to do a bigger workday. I did a clean-up with them a few years ago and they arranged for a roll off dumpster.
jerrymrc
07-01-2011, 20:02
On the topic of Campers. I do own a camper. I also have a tent and everything as well. My back will only do the tent for a couple of nights.
I will say that I hate generators with a passion. I am used to dry camping and used to spend days at the Buffalo Creek range. Not everyone with a camper is a bad person.
I used to do a lot of testing with my solar setups and using less power all around just in case.[Coffee]
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