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CMP_5.56
08-10-2011, 14:43
I just heard that Byte Stryke's wife's account has been banned along with his. Why would her account be banned over his mistake? What about those of us that share a computer with roommates? If my roommate gets banned, so do I? Doesn't seem fair to me. Byte's wife is a shooter, and I'm sure she isn't the only wife that has an account along with their husband.

As of now my roommates are not signed up, but they want to. I sure hope if they do they don't piss anyone off.

Zundfolge
08-10-2011, 15:14
Also what if someone other than me logs into their account while logged into my home wireless network? Or what about those of us that log in from work. At one time there were three members here in my office (we've downsized enough that there's only me now) On occasion I've shown for sale ads to co-workers and if one of them signs up to reply are we both going to be booted?

Seems to me that a reflexive ban without any sort of investigation will hit more "false positives" than anything else.

Marlin
08-10-2011, 15:21
News to me.

If that's the case, Maybe she should have posted more. But, when an account that has been dormant for over a year all of a sudden pops up, What am I suppose to think.

My guess, He may have set it up for her, and she never used it. He saw His opportunity after he got banned and used it himself. If that is not the case and out of the blue, She decides to start posting, then we will get it straightened out.

DeusExMachina
08-10-2011, 15:30
Most forums will do an IP ban for a banned member, for the exact reason of they're banned and are not allowed on the forum with another account.

Multiple accounts per IP usually goes under the radar unless one account gets in trouble.

Marlin
08-10-2011, 15:49
Oh, and if you and your roomies are using the same email and have the same exact birthday, Yes, it just might throw a little suspicion your way also.


Yes, we do have a few more hubby/wifey teams on here and none of them share an email address, much less a birthday.. Yes, I do realize it is possible,On the birthday anyway. Not so much the email.

CMP_5.56
08-10-2011, 16:06
My ex and I had a joint email that we used for a lot of things. Either way it just seems like overkill to me.

Marlin
08-10-2011, 16:07
You both have the same birthday though?

Elhuero
08-10-2011, 17:51
so did he get a month like me?

BPTactical
08-10-2011, 17:56
I wish I could find the clip and post it from Monty Python............

"Bailiff, whack his pee-pee"

Scanker19
08-10-2011, 17:57
I wish I could find the clip and post it from Monty Python............

"Bailiff, whack his pee-pee"

Wasn't that cheech and chong?

alxone
08-10-2011, 19:21
so did he get a month like me?yup

Hoosier
08-10-2011, 19:39
You should all be behind seven proxies or on TOR anyway... [LOL]

H.

Irving
08-10-2011, 19:58
My wife has an account and never posts. I'm going to f'ing pissed if I get banned over it.

What's the big deal with multiple accounts anyway? Who cares?

Colorado Luckydog
08-10-2011, 20:11
I'm not not knocking the rules, they are what they are. All I'm saying is, it's a better forum when Byte Stryke is around. Even if you don't agree with him all the time, he is witty, humourous and makes for a good read and entertainment. Plus he's just a good dude. I hope he comes back when the ban is over.

I've been a member of a site called huntingnet.com for years. It was the best site ever. Thousands of members. It was all you could do to keep up with everything. They started banning a lot of the regular guys and things started falling apart. The place is a ghost town now. I just wouldn't won't anything like that to happen here because this is my favorite site that I am a member of.

Zundfolge
08-10-2011, 20:29
Oh, and if you and your roomies are using the same email and have the same exact birthday, Yes, it just might throw a little suspicion your way also.


Yes, we do have a few more hubby/wifey teams on here and none of them share an email address, much less a birthday.. Yes, I do realize it is possible,On the birthday anyway. Not so much the email.

As long as the decision to ban isn't made purely from two accounts logging in from the same IP than I don't see a problem with it.

No Mary Roshes allowed :D

Irving
08-10-2011, 22:54
By the way, apparently Byte's wife is trying to sell her gun on here. Was anyway. She won't be back.

CMP_5.56
08-11-2011, 03:35
You both have the same birthday though?

From what I understand both birthdays are the same because they are fake. Which I understand because I do that as well. I keep most personal info to myself. And yes Byte set up his wife's account with the same email. She didn't post because well lets face it, this forum is pretty high on the testosterone. They were trying to sell a gun, so she posted it. Byte had nothing to do with it. Either way, we lost a forum member, she wouldn't come back if she could.

I personally really like Byte, and if what he said was over the line, then so be it. His wife on the other hand did not break forum rules, at least not knowingly, so her ban I don't understand.

BigBear
08-11-2011, 09:52
Wait!! What did I miss?! Why was Byte banned?.... I know the dude, he's a little quirky, but overall a good guy. Man, I need to get on here more.

Ranger
08-11-2011, 10:20
I completely understand the rules and don't have a problem with them. I think that exceptions always need to be made but like Marlin says, if an account is dormant and suddenly becomes active, particularly if it's from the same IP as someone who was banned, it is a bit suspicious. I thought Nynco was a duel account too, no activity and then all of the sudden he is posting like he has nothing else to do. Seriously, he went from 5 posts to several hundred in three weeks.

Here is my take on this, and you may not agree: there is some level of trust here, we tend to trust the sellers here because we know them, but if someone is circumventing the system for whatever reason and knows it's against the board policy, that's dishonest and trust diminishes. IF Byte was using a second account that doesn't mean I won't buy a gun from him, but it does make him a little sneakier in my eyes.

I would buy a gun from most the folks on here pretty much sight unseen (at least the guys I chat with regularly) but once the trust starts to diminish, now I might want to see that gun first. I hope that makes sense!

CMP_5.56
08-11-2011, 10:37
The one thing I know is, after Byte getting the ban for the reasons he did, I'm a little less active on this forum. I have spoken my mind on a lot of topics on this forum, and some of my opinions have upset quite a few people. Now I feel like I have to self censor on these forums, which makes me less apt to post. I know what Byte posted, and personally I didn't see the difference between what he said and what others had posted, besides being aimed at an LEO. And in the topic it was an LEO that had been threatening to shoot people. Seems to me when the LEO threatened to kill people, he lost any respect garnered by his title. I also am one of those people that don't agree that a badge does anything more than get a touch more unearned respect from me. If you prove to not deserve that respect, then I'm sure as hell not going to give it.

BPTactical
08-11-2011, 10:40
Wasn't that cheech and chong?

I stand corrected.

ronaldrwl
08-11-2011, 10:55
I like this forum and the people on it (except all the people on my ignore list). But really? Do we need the rules? What if my good personality doesn't want to post under my angry personalities account? What's the big deal if somebody has more than one account? Personally, I only have one account and don't post much anymore. I guess I'm still a little miffed at having to reveal my location. And at the watch dog gestapos looking for members that haven't added their location. Geez, get a life. Rant complete. Back to work.

TS12000
08-11-2011, 11:14
The one thing I know is, after Byte getting the ban for the reasons he did, I'm a little less active on this forum. I have spoken my mind on a lot of topics on this forum, and some of my opinions have upset quite a few people. Now I feel like I have to self censor on these forums, which makes me less apt to post. I know what Byte posted, and personally I didn't see the difference between what he said and what others had posted, besides being aimed at an LEO.


This ^^^

I guess I just don't understand the difference between his post and our seemingly monthly "I hate fags" and "Turn the Middle East into a parking lot of glass" circlejerks.

Graves
08-11-2011, 11:24
Comparing a cop killer to a fag hater...Really?

ghettodub
08-11-2011, 11:26
Comparing a cop killing to a fag hating? Really?!??

Not even gonna touch comparing one to another. But they're both stupid things to say IMO...

CMP_5.56
08-11-2011, 14:55
Comparing a cop killer to a fag hater...Really?

Nobody on this forum, to my knowledge, is a cop killer. Speaking your mind and following through are two very different things. I guaranty that every member of this board has been pulled over when they were late for work or what not. I'm sure what they were thinking afterwards probably wasn't very positive. I'm willing to bet at least 60% of the members here have had negative experiences with officers of the law. I would also wager that you said the same thing Byte did when you told the story later.

Everyone here has wished someone dead. If you say you haven't you're an outright liar. It's human nature, no fighting it. To say that one person is more important than the next because of a badge is just idiocy. Cops used to actually protect people, but those days are gone. It's all about revenue now. If anyone could disagree with that i would ask why they CCW then. I'm 100% sure that everyone that does CCW, does so because they know that their only protection comes from themselves.

Cops are just people with a job, they have the authority they so because we as a community give it to them. When a cop is out of line, it should be our right to strip him of that authority. When they threaten lives over nonsense, they should face the same punishment we would have to. But I guess paid leave, possibly a smack on the wrist is all they seem to ever get.

Hoosier
08-11-2011, 15:56
Nobody on this forum, to my knowledge, is a cop killer. Speaking your mind and following through are two very different things. I guaranty that every member of this board has been pulled over when they were late for work or what not. I'm sure what they were thinking afterwards probably wasn't very positive. I'm willing to bet at least 60% of the members here have had negative experiences with officers of the law. I would also wager that you said the same thing Byte did when you told the story later.

Everyone here has wished someone dead. If you say you haven't you're an outright liar. It's human nature, no fighting it. To say that one person is more important than the next because of a badge is just idiocy. Cops used to actually protect people, but those days are gone. It's all about revenue now. If anyone could disagree with that i would ask why they CCW then. I'm 100% sure that everyone that does CCW, does so because they know that their only protection comes from themselves.

Cops are just people with a job, they have the authority they so because we as a community give it to them. When a cop is out of line, it should be our right to strip him of that authority. When they threaten lives over nonsense, they should face the same punishment we would have to. But I guess paid leave, possibly a smack on the wrist is all they seem to ever get.

Well said.

FWIW, Anyone willing to spend $20 a month can run their own forum. The software is free, just takes time to moderate it.

H.

Monky
08-11-2011, 15:57
I have nothing against Byte..but the mods are the ones in charge around here.

Seriously, you're not helping his case any.

Get off his nuts.

He knew the rules. He broke the rules. He got punished.

TS12000
08-11-2011, 16:29
Comparing a cop killer to a fag hater...Really?

I was trying to wrestle with the justification. From what I saw it was that if someone did take up action and killed a cop it could come back on the forum and those who run it. Is that not also true if one of you goes and Matt Shepards someone? To be clear I'm not playing Bytes advocate here, the ban is what it is and understandable, just saying that pendulum swings in more than one direction and to know which way will get you slapped is good to know.

Paladin
08-12-2011, 00:01
You both have the same birthday though?

Dear Sir,
I joined this forum shortly after it opened the doors, but there was very little activity, so I sort-of forgot about it. So I may have two accounts, but its not a malicious act. Its a poor memory. However, if I remember right, CO AR-15 changed hands, and all the dormant accounts were deleted. YES?-NO?

Thanks,

Dave

sniper7
08-12-2011, 00:04
Guys we need to remember that this is Rogers site, he picked the mods, he makes the rules. This isn't arfcom where people get banned left and right for stupid shit. I am friends with Byte and he is a good dude, great wife, awesome son.
I am sure he can make things right and get back on here. We all get upset, we all get excited, we all say/type some stupid shit as well. That is part of the internet, where drinking and typing happens and luckily it isn't illegal but you are still responsible for what you put on the page.

alxone
08-12-2011, 07:06
I have nothing against Byte..but the mods are the ones in charge around here.

Seriously, you're not helping his case any.

Get off his nuts.

He knew the rules. He broke the rules. He got punished.id consider the stryke family my friends so ill speak up for them and nobody is on anybody's nuts . if you knew mr and mrs stryke you would understand the the setting up of 2 accounts was a natural thing to do (as im sure byte set it up for her) . also why would she need to post when im sure mrs stryke is like my lady in the fact if she has an opinion about a topic or thread ill voice it for her . yes mrs stryke reads our silliness and has opinions too . but why would she make byte log out just to respond when they both agree on the text presented by byte .
so byte gets banned but her account is still active and say she wants to trade up a gun (yes she is a shooter ) ?? oh thats right she cant post ether because they live together and have the same ip address . i do see the mods point but not everyone can afford multiple computers each with there own ip . yes implying that someone should get shot is bad but if thats the case then we should never say that terrorist should get shot right ? so what if he said that he hopes the dirty cop gets shot , i hope they shoot every last person in the middle east that takes up arms against the u.s. . am i wrong for saying that maybe but the point is, one is no better than the other , just more pc . yep he knows he broke the rules and is taking the punishment just like others have(i aint sayin no names [Tooth]) . hopefully he will come back when he is off restriction but thats a few weeks away and its up to him .

Graves
08-12-2011, 07:22
I have nothing against Byte..but the mods are the ones in charge around here.

Seriously, you're not helping his case any.

Get off his nuts.

He knew the rules. He broke the rules. He got punished.


This^^^

CMP, your heart's in the right place but was his b-day "get together" back in Jan. bogus too?

Hoser
08-12-2011, 08:20
unless authorized by site staff

Please keep the above quote in mind.

That means things will/can be handled on a case by case basis.

n8tive97
08-12-2011, 08:54
Just so I am clear, I can't open a account with the same IP and birthdate? So my plan to open an account with my alter ego to argue with myself in the same forum as n8tive97 wont work?

Ranger
08-12-2011, 09:01
Just so I am clear, I can't open a account with the same IP and birthdate? So my plan to open an account with my alter ego to argue with myself in the same forum as n8tive97 wont work?

My alter ego was born in 1921, so I'm good :).

CMP_5.56
08-13-2011, 15:28
This^^^

CMP, your heart's in the right place but was his b-day "get together" back in Jan. bogus too?

I have no idea, all I know is what Byte has said about it. I personally disagree with the ban, and that is all there is to it.

CMP_5.56
08-13-2011, 15:40
I have nothing against Byte..but the mods are the ones in charge around here.

Seriously, you're not helping his case any.

Get off his nuts.

He knew the rules. He broke the rules. He got punished.

First of all, im not on the guys nuts, im on his side because I disagree with his ban.

Second, if he broke the rules, then everyone who has ever said anyone on this planet deserves to be shot, has broken the same rules.