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BPTactical
08-10-2011, 20:26
Just a PSA- A kid that worked for my wife was downtown with his GF a couple of Saturday nights ago @ 20th and Market about 1:30 am. As they were walking somebody in a group of Messicans threw a beer bottle and hit the girlfriend in the foot, slicing it open. I don't know if the kid did anything to precipitate this but I doubt it.
When he said something to them they jumped him AND the girlfriend and beat the shiite out of both and took her purse and his wallet. He got pretty well jacked, broken nose and eye socket, cracked ribs etc.
12 on 2- sounds like a fair fight.
He made a report and one of the cops made a statement to the effect that this is an almost nightly occurance.

Just another reason to stay out of Denver

jplove71
08-10-2011, 20:30
Just another reason to stay out of Denver
It's a sanctuary city. Why would you expect anything less?

roberth
08-10-2011, 20:34
I hope they recover OK.

Was this attack in the paper? I missed it if it was.

I think the only way anyone would get me to downtown Denver would be if I had a winning lottery ticket and had to go to the Lottery office.

DFBrews
08-10-2011, 20:37
I hope they recover OK.

Was this attack in the paper? I missed it if it was.

I think the only way anyone would get me to downtown Denver would be if I had a winning lottery ticket and had to go to the Lottery office.

I would drive to the one in pueblo

Jeff350
08-10-2011, 20:39
I believe that these types of attacks are happening all the time.

While my wife was in Dental school, she worked at an emergency clinic for a rotation and saw 5 or 6 guys that had been jumped downtown while out partying. The worst of them had a broken jaw that required emergency surgery (plus black eyes, etc.)

Avoid going downtown at night if at all possible guys!

Zundfolge
08-10-2011, 20:43
If DPD wouldn't actually be bigger dicks to us than to the criminals, I'd almost suggest that groups of armed citizens wandering the downtown area on the weekend would put an end to this silliness.

gnihcraes
08-10-2011, 20:50
Avoid going downtown at night if at all possible guys!

yep, less and less money spent down there is the best policy.

Elhuero
08-10-2011, 20:51
1. get plate number of car

2. look plate number up online to find owner and address

3. look up address on google maps

4. do not seek retribution in any way, shape or form. let karma handle it. [Flower]

spyder
08-10-2011, 21:03
If DPD wouldn't actually be bigger dicks to us than to the criminals, I'd almost suggest that groups of armed citizens wandering the downtown area on the weekend would put an end to this silliness.
Best thing about beating bad guys, they don't call the cops... just sayin...

blacklabel
08-10-2011, 21:08
A buddy and I were jumped down there about a year and a half ago. I haven't been to LoDo since. I've got too much to live for than to risk being down there and gettin' into it again.

Irving
08-10-2011, 21:19
I've been jumped down in LoDo, it wasn't race related though; just drugs.

My cousins got jumped by those black guys a few years ago though.

sneakerd
08-10-2011, 21:26
Sorrrrry- but what the hell is anybody doing in downtown/Lodo Denver at 1:30 in the morning? YOU ARE LOOKING FOR TROUBLE. Remember the adendum to the 3 S's- "Nothing good happens after midnight". I have no empathy for anyone walking the streets of Denver after 1am. It's just dumb.

spleify
08-10-2011, 21:26
Little punks. Man what are these dumb kids thinkin

trlcavscout
08-10-2011, 21:40
1. get plate number of car

2. look plate number up online to find owner and address

3. look up address on google maps

4. do not seek retribution in any way, shape or form. let karma handle it. [Flower]

Getting the plate number does no good [Rant1] I havent been jumped but my poor car was. 12 on 2 the smoke wagons singin!

BPTactical
08-10-2011, 21:41
1. get plate number of car

2. look plate number up online to find owner and address

3. look up address on google maps

4. do not seek retribution in any way, shape or form. let karma handle it. [Flower]


Welcome back E!
[Beer]

Irving
08-10-2011, 22:03
Sorrrrry- but what the hell is anybody doing in downtown/Lodo Denver at 1:30 in the morning? YOU ARE LOOKING FOR TROUBLE. Remember the adendum to the 3 S's- "Nothing good happens after midnight". I have no empathy for anyone walking the streets of Denver after 1am. It's just dumb.

Just like girls in short skirts deserve to be raped right?

rondog
08-10-2011, 22:19
Ahem, guess where my office is? 17th and Curtis. And I work in telecom, which requires a lot of maintenance to be done after midnight, so I'm downtown in the wee hours much too often for my liking. I only hang in one 1/2 block area, from my building to the parking garage, but a fat, gimpy old cracker like me makes a fine target, IMO. Hence the reason for my CCW permit.

blacklabel
08-10-2011, 22:28
Remember the adendum to the 3 S's- "Nothing good
happens after midnight".

If there's one thing I'm going to drill into my sons head, it's this. It's so true. I do have to say though that I never really looked for trouble during my partying days but it did always seem to find me.

yankeefan98121
08-10-2011, 22:40
Ahem, guess where my office is? 17th and Curtis. And I work in telecom, which requires a lot of maintenance to be done after midnight, so I'm downtown in the wee hours much too often for my liking. I only hang in one 1/2 block area, from my building to the parking garage, but a fat, gimpy old cracker like me makes a fine target, IMO. Hence the reason for my CCW permit.

I also work downtown (17th and California, above the Marriot) and sometimes I'm obligated to work late nights to get projects out the door to the client on time. I very regularly take public transit to work, ie. bus. but sometimes I drive and park just north of California and Broadway. On those days, plus other days, I'm packing. My company has a firm no weapons policy, but in IMHO, if no one knows then "no one" knows.

I've seen what some of you are referring to when said, "anything passed midnight is just asking for trouble" which is very true. BUT should we change our life styles just because a bunch of fucktards are running the streets?? I'm not saying being in LODO that late is a good thing but if I'm having a good time with my associates on a Friday night, do I need to cut it short because it's 11:45 and I parked 3 blocks away?? When does it end? Does it ever? or are we just going to consider that IF you want to hang out in downtown Denver, you need to wrap it up before midnight OR be in a group of 15?? When is enough is enough??

I'm taking some of my friends, military friends, out to lodo soon. Once we're there I'm sure we're going to be out late, it's a chance we're taking yes. But I refuse to let fucktards win, we'll see what happens. Because we all know what happens when 2 groups of fucktards goes when alcohol is involved. [Beer]

Elhuero
08-10-2011, 22:47
Welcome back E!
[Beer]


thanks man

KevDen2005
08-10-2011, 23:24
Probably wasn't even in the news...don't want citizens knowing what is happening down there and that assaults are on the rise and out of control.

Not_A_Llama
08-10-2011, 23:52
I work by Union Station. Most days I walk a couple blocks for cheaper parking. Nice to see uprooted plants and pigeons eating barf in the morning. If I'm working nights, I pay extra to park in the building.

LoDo is dangerous as hell, and the serious bodily injury scenarios that you'd be justified using firearms for require extra risk taking on your part to avoid the wrath of an overzealous DA.

It's amazingly wrong that I'm as scared of politics/career oriented prosecutors as I am of the roving bands of "unarmed" drugged-up thugs.

PS: Anyone remember this? The only thing scarier than DPD's handling is how fast it's faded from the memory of the general public: http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/21868721/detail.html

rockhound
08-11-2011, 00:22
there were 60 something attacks (as I recall) last year downtown, ( on young white men.) hickenlooper played down the facts so that LODO wouldn't go belly up.

check out the crime map in LODO just in the last two months

http://www.spotcrime.com/co/denver/lodo

COLOSHOOTR
08-11-2011, 00:29
I work by Union Station. Most days I walk a couple blocks for cheaper parking. Nice to see uprooted plants and pigeons eating barf in the morning. If I'm working nights, I pay extra to park in the building.

LoDo is dangerous as hell, and the serious bodily injury scenarios that you'd be justified using firearms for require extra risk taking on your part to avoid the wrath of an overzealous DA.

It's amazingly wrong that I'm as scared of politics/career oriented prosecutors as I am of the roving bands of "unarmed" drugged-up thugs.

PS: Anyone remember this? The only thing scarier than DPD's handling is how fast it's faded from the memory of the general public: http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/21868721/detail.html
Why do you assume that it had anything to do with the DPD. I'm sure the way that it was handled was a political move dictated by the Mayors office.


If DPD wouldn't actually be bigger dicks to us than to the criminals, I'd almost suggest that groups of armed citizens wandering the downtown area on the weekend would put an end to this silliness.

I think you've been watching too much of the liberal medias reporting about Denver..... I've never heard of a Denver cop arrest anyone for having a so called assault weapon even though the ban is on the books. I've never heard of them going and harassing legally armed citizens just for fun. So how is it you form the idea that the DPD is a bunch of A holes? Sure the liberal government in Denver is anti gun but that doesn't mean the cops are. The ones who do yell at you for legally carrying are idiots and I guarantee that they are the minority and are likely not well liked by their peers.

Don't bash all cops for the acts of a few. Doing that makes you no better then the anti gun crowd who says that one nut doing something dumb with a gun should mean none of us should own them......

Not_A_Llama
08-11-2011, 00:47
Why do you assume that it had anything to do with the DPD. I'm sure the way that it was handled was a political move dictated by the Mayors office.
I was under the impression that "just following orders" was considered to be a morally and legally weak defense.

sbouslog
08-11-2011, 06:12
I go out down there once every two months or so. The key is to know your surroundings and avoid dangerous situations. To me it would depend on how large the gash in the girls foot was. If it is going to heal on it's own then just go the opposite direction. There is no point in trying to talk trash to a group of drunken losers. If the gash is large and your girl needs medical assistance then call the police and have them pick up the one responsible. He is probably never going to end up paying for the medical bills but chances are the guy has priors and an assault charge might be enough to put him away for a year or so.

Whenever you are in a situation like this you have to remember that you probably have more to lose then they do. Confronting the group on your own will do you no good.

Graves
08-11-2011, 06:39
I go out down there once every two months or so. The key is to know your surroundings and avoid dangerous situations. To me it would depend on how large the gash in the girls foot was. If it is going to heal on it's own then just go the opposite direction. There is no point in trying to talk trash to a group of drunken losers. If the gash is large and your girl needs medical assistance then call the police and have them pick up the one responsible. He is probably never going to end up paying for the medical bills but chances are the guy has priors and an assault charge might be enough to put him away for a year or so.

Whenever you are in a situation like this you have to remember that you probably have more to lose then they do. Confronting the group on your own will do you no good.

The motherfucker who purposely hurts my wife will surely have some medical bills of his own and that'd be best case scenario for him. I never leave home "on my own". Then again, I never dwell loser-ville late at night either.

alxone
08-11-2011, 06:50
Sorrrrry- but what the hell is anybody doing in downtown/Lodo Denver at 1:30 in the morning? YOU ARE LOOKING FOR TROUBLE. Remember the adendum to the 3 S's- "Nothing good happens after midnight". I have no empathy for anyone walking the streets of Denver after 1am. It's just dumb.
hum being as i live about 8 blocks from the incident i guess i should not go out side after midnight [ROFL1][ROFL1]. lodo / 5 points / curits park ect. are not bad areas at all . being afraid or as we would say in the hood acting all shock , is a sure fire way to get jumped or taken advantage of . honestly being aware of your surroundings is the best defense . a little bit of street knowledge goes a long way round here . sure bad things happen to good people but most things can be avoided if you know what to look for .

alxone
08-11-2011, 06:55
loser-ville
really graves ? so you think thorton is so much better ? im sure there are plenty of scumbags up in thorton too .

Graves
08-11-2011, 07:02
alx,
If you think 5 points ain't that bad, you've obviously spent very little time on foot in them parts. I 'went' (ditched a lot) to Manual high and spent most of my time running around that place and I've seen my fair share of shit around there. Hell one of my friends (16yo) was shot and killed for a damn broncos jacket there.

Graves
08-11-2011, 07:03
really graves ? so you think thorton is so much better ? im sure there are plenty of scumbags up in thorton too .

Yeah, worlds better. Sorry but Denver's a f**king s**thole.

I'm actually in Brighton though.

n8tive97
08-11-2011, 07:10
My wife's sister got jumped by a bunch of the bandido (biker gang) bitches one night on 6th street in Austin. I was pulling them off her by their hair. Then I got jumped by them. I'm 6'2" 280lbs and was holding my own until 2 more showed up. Some of the people, men and women, that were watching the whole thing jumped in to help me. When the mounted LEO showed up they wanted to know if I had a death wish? Maybe, I don't know, adrenaline is a funny thing.
Long story short, the folks that enjoyed the area got sick of it, the cops were sick of it and when everyone stood up to them and whooped their ass, it stopped. No charges against the by standards(people helping), but they had bandido gang members sitting on the curb in cuffs waiting for the wagon to show up.

That was 10 years ago when I was younger and working out daily, but I am all for a posse Friday night! Who's in?

sneakerd
08-11-2011, 07:10
Don't take everything so personally Alex. These are generalisms. Certainly if you find yourself out, or live in the area or know the area- you walk with confidence and strength, you may be armed- it may be ok. But my statement stands on its own for any big city. If you're out after 1am, you better be damn careful because you are a target. Especially if you are alone, in small numbers, and/or are white. You're going to be a minority, and I think you would be surprised to know how many eyes are watching you from the shadows.

alxone
08-11-2011, 07:22
Yeah, worlds better. Sorry but Denver's a f**king s**thole.

I'm actually in Brighton though.
compared to other major city's denver is nice , a little gay and non english speaking for my taste , but a clean safe city just the same all things considered .

alxone
08-11-2011, 07:27
Don't take everything so personally Alex. These are generalisms. Certainly if you find yourself out, or live in the area or know the area- you walk with confidence and strength, you may be armed- it may be ok. But my statement stands on its own for any big city. If you're out after 1am, you better be damn careful because you are a target. Especially if you are alone, in small numbers, and/or are white. You're going to be a minority, and I think you would be surprised to know how many eyes are watching you from the shadows.just so you know that im havin fun , this one is for you [Beer]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CgPv3bcnDis

Graves
08-11-2011, 07:28
I agree, Denver's faaaaar from being the roughest and toughest place around, but you couldn't pay me to live there.

sneakerd
08-11-2011, 07:29
I think your point is a good one though- let's see if I can shorten it - If you are out that late- act like a hunter and not the hunted.[Beer]

alxone
08-11-2011, 07:29
I agree, Denver's faaaaar from being the roughest and toughest place around, but you couldn't pay me to live there.if i could move to the country or the hills i would [Beer]

alxone
08-11-2011, 07:30
I think your point is a good one though- let's see if I can shorten it - If you are out that late- act like a hunter and not the hunted.[Beer]
well said sir

sbouslog
08-11-2011, 07:56
The motherfucker who purposely hurts my wife will surely have some medical bills of his own and that'd be best case scenario for him. I never leave home "on my own". Then again, I never dwell loser-ville late at night either.

The judge might make you move down to loser-ville forever if you decide to shoot someone for accidently tossing a bottle at your wife. Sometimes it is better to think things out a few steps in advance.

Also, I don't think that it is a very wise decision to go out boozing while carrying. It can be known to cloud your judgement...

Ranger
08-11-2011, 07:59
I think your point is a good one though- let's see if I can shorten it - If you are out that late- act like a hunter and not the hunted.[Beer]

^^^^ This is the winner ^^^^

I live in Denver proper (but, really, let's be real here, I live on the border of Denver and Lakewood, not exactly the hood) and go to LoDo all the time at night to eat at some of my favorite restaurants and hang out doing some people watching. LoDo is a pretty safe place in this situation but I'm not going to wander around off the beaten path because I know it's looking for trouble. When I'm forced to because of where I parked or whatever, then I see every single person as a threat and avoid any situation that might get ugly.

There is one side of me that says if someone had thrown a bottle and hit my girl in any way and hurt her in any way my Apeshit light would go on and I would confront them with no regard to my own personal well being. The other side of me says that it's best to get her to a hospital as soon as possible, note everything about the situation and get the cops involved because I know that A) I would probably shoot somebody, B) probably get charged with something, C) might compromise myself and get my wife raped and/or D) get myself killed.

I can hope that the Army training I went through years ago would kick in and keep me safe but I really can't be certain of that and it's not just my life but the life of my girl that I could put on the line to test it. One-on-one or two I can likely handle, but three or more is probably pushing it.

BlasterBob
08-11-2011, 08:00
Well shit, after reading all this, I don't want to have to even DRIVE through Denver on I-25 to get up to Wyoming. Even though this crap "usually" happens at night, I dislike even driving up there during the "safe" daylight hours.[Rant1] Next time I HAVE to drive up through Denver for perhaps the Tanner show, I think I'll ask Alex to clear a path for me.[Tooth]

Graves
08-11-2011, 08:10
The judge might make you move down to loser-ville forever if you decide to shoot someone for accidently tossing a bottle at your wife. Sometimes it is better to think things out a few steps in advance.

Also, I don't think that it is a very wise decision to go out boozing while carrying. It can be known to cloud your judgement...

I must have missed the part where I said I'd shoot a scumbag for tossing a bottle. I don't drink and carry either bub.

I'm not a hot head or some self-proclaimed badass, hitting my wife with a bottle won't go over so well with me.

KevDen2005
08-11-2011, 08:41
I used to live in Washington DC for many years, Denver is a much safer place than most cities. That being said, something should be done about this crap and the city is ridiculous for not releasing that information. If I go downtown, and I do sometimes because I am not going to let thugs run me out because they don't me there, I go in a large group of people if I plan on drinking or I carry my gun if I am not going to drink. But I have a huge problem with all of us allowing criminal to overrun our cities. I don't have the answer, but we should be doing something, I think.

Ranger
08-11-2011, 08:46
If DPD wouldn't actually be bigger dicks to us than to the criminals, I'd almost suggest that groups of armed citizens wandering the downtown area on the weekend would put an end to this silliness.

I support that notion in theory too. However, in practice it would end up bad for anyone who did it. Vigilantism is frowned on by the police - even if the citizens would probably appreciate it. I have though MANY times of putting together a group of ex Mils or cops to have our own "good guy gang" but know that as much as I hate scumbags that eventually something bad is going to happen and I'll regret my decision to be a vigilante.

For one thing, if we are going to be legal in Denver we can't carry large capacity mags nor do we have automatic weapons - a lot of these scumbags have both. Sure, we'll have tactics on our side but that doesn't guarantee that we'll outwit full autos or a mob.

alxone
08-11-2011, 08:56
alx,
If you think 5 points ain't that bad, you've obviously spent very little time on foot in them parts. I 'went' (ditched a lot) to Manual high and spent most of my time running around that place and I've seen my fair share of shit around there. Hell one of my friends (16yo) was shot and killed for a damn broncos jacket there.just so you know i spent most of my high school years walking around these parts (seeing as we lived here and all) and i went to manual in 89 so id say i have pretty good idea of how bad this place has been over the years [Tooth]

Lex_Luthor
08-11-2011, 09:17
Throw your girlfriend at the bad guys and kick them in the head! (oops, wrong thread)

Ranger
08-11-2011, 09:23
Throw your girlfriend at the bad guys and kick them in the head! (oops, wrong thread)

Next: Dead al-x....

[ROFL1]

ghettodub
08-11-2011, 09:24
Denver isn't that bad at all, but I think being cautious as mentioned is important. There are very few parts of Denver I don't feel safe in, and I'll go anywhere in Denver, but my level of caution and awareness may be changed by the neighbourhood...

However, I will say (as being talked about in another thread): Lakeside is one place I wouldn't go hang out at [LOL]

mopar
08-11-2011, 09:31
DAMN!!! After reading this thread i'm glad I live in the boonies.
We have a few gang banger wannabes around, but to find trouble
you pretty much have to go look for it.

n8tive97
08-11-2011, 09:34
I used to live in Washington DC for many years, Denver is a much safer place than most cities. That being said, something should be done about this crap and the city is ridiculous for not releasing that information. If I go downtown, and I do sometimes because I am not going to let thugs run me out because they don't me there, I go in a large group of people if I plan on drinking or I carry my gun if I am not going to drink. But I have a huge problem with all of us allowing criminal to overrun our cities. I don't have the answer, but we should be doing something, I think.

I'm telling you guys, we need to form a posse!

sneakerd
08-11-2011, 09:38
See- there you go again- looking for trouble!!!

Ronin13
08-11-2011, 09:57
Shit, I go downtown all the time- in fact I'll be at the Filmore tomorrow night... but I rest easy knowing the guys I'll be with, especially leaving around 1AM. Let them try to jump us, we're not afraid, even if we're not carrying. I will say, anyone who starts trouble my main thing to tell the cops is "my military training teaches to eliminate the threat, not run away, someone attacks me believe me they're going down." I refuse to let criminals push us around and make us live in fear. If DPD needs to hire more, or crack down, so be it, I'm not advocating vigilantism, but which is better, a gun that's just a draw away? or a cop that's 3-10min away? If need be, I will end crime with extreme prejudice, I've been the victim before and trust me, it's not the mental state you want to be in... you feel like shit, helpless, weak and fearful, and that's contrary to what I believe and what I want. Thus, if I really have to end a life in defense of my safety and life and property, or that of those I'm with, you bet your ass I will push hesitation out a 30 story window and put my foot down. Flame me if you want, but this is something I feel strongly about- I swore I would never be a victim ever again, and if I die defending myself then so be it, at least I died standing. I'd rather die like a man than live like a coward.

rondog
08-11-2011, 10:00
I have a deep, burning hatred for gangbangers, druggies and street thugs of all kinds, I'd make a good vigilante! I don't move all that well, but I can shoot good. Do I get a black ninja suit? I'd need a 4x......

Ranger
08-11-2011, 10:05
I die defending myself then so be it, at least I died standing. I'd rather die like a man than live like a coward.

+1000, I'm with you Ronin. But, my point is that if my life is NOT in danger, would I be so inclined as to place it in danger and confront a group of drunks looking for a fight? I don't and won't live in fear and have all confidence that I'm capable of taking on just about anybody - without a weapon - even if that means I get creamed. I used to get into fights a lot, I loved the adrenaline of fighting someone and sought it out at every opportunity, but I'm much more careful now. Back then a knife was the worst you could expect, now it's a gun. Different world.

And while I don't agree that I MUST have a CCW to carry, I realize that my legal right (according to Colorado) to carry is based on that, I am quite cognizant of my actions now since a rash action could result in losing it.

alxone
08-11-2011, 10:12
I'd make a good vigilante! I don't move all that well, but I can shoot good. Do I get a black ninja suit? I'd need a 4x......[ROFL2][LOL][ROFL3][ROFL1]

Lex_Luthor
08-11-2011, 10:38
I have a deep, burning hatred for gangbangers, druggies and street thugs of all kinds, I'd make a good vigilante! I don't move all that well, but I can shoot good. Do I get a black ninja suit? I'd need a 4x......

Chris Farley in Beverly Hills Ninja!![ROFL3]

n8tive97
08-11-2011, 11:03
Shit, I go downtown all the time- in fact I'll be at the Filmore tomorrow night... but I rest easy knowing the guys I'll be with, especially leaving around 1AM. Let them try to jump us, we're not afraid, even if we're not carrying. I will say, anyone who starts trouble my main thing to tell the cops is "my military training teaches to eliminate the threat, not run away, someone attacks me believe me they're going down." I refuse to let criminals push us around and make us live in fear. If DPD needs to hire more, or crack down, so be it, I'm not advocating vigilantism, but which is better, a gun that's just a draw away? or a cop that's 3-10min away? If need be, I will end crime with extreme prejudice, I've been the victim before and trust me, it's not the mental state you want to be in... you feel like shit, helpless, weak and fearful, and that's contrary to what I believe and what I want. Thus, if I really have to end a life in defense of my safety and life and property, or that of those I'm with, you bet your ass I will push hesitation out a 30 story window and put my foot down. Flame me if you want, but this is something I feel strongly about- I swore I would never be a victim ever again, and if I die defending myself then so be it, at least I died standing. I'd rather die like a man than live like a coward.

This is why the dude in Con Air got screwed! Protecting himself and his girl and gets thrown in jail because he used his training!

Graves
08-11-2011, 11:04
Yeah, but he managed to get a sweet hair-do out of the deal. [LOL]

Ronin13
08-11-2011, 11:08
This is why the dude in Con Air got screwed! Protecting himself and his girl and gets thrown in jail because he used his training!

Actually, that's been debunked... in real life that wouldn't actually happen in a clear cut self defense case- I asked my friend's wife who's a former ADA from MA and she said that if you have .mil training and you have to defend yourself you use whatever tools you need to defend yourself. You shouldn't be punished for using your training to defend yourself. That's why I thought Con Air was a ridiculous portrayal, but still fun to watch.

Graves
08-11-2011, 11:18
When it comes to a jury of your "peers", you have no shot in hell to know how it'll turn out.

BushMasterBoy
08-11-2011, 11:47
When in Denver or any other large city I go armed, hell when I go hiking in the National Forest I go armed. Got mugged once in Long Beach Ca. Three against one, I was on a pier. I fought them off and they ran away and came back with tire irons and clubs. I ran into a crowd of fishermen and they attacked the fishermen. I guess all white people look alike. I managed to escape the scene relatively unscathed.

Moral of the story: Don't go out unarmed. Period.

BPTactical
08-11-2011, 11:48
Do I get a black ninja suit? I'd need a 4x......
Is that known as "Extra Fluffy"?

spyder
08-11-2011, 11:55
He's the beverly hills ninja! [LOL]

alxone
08-11-2011, 11:55
He's the beverly hills ninja! [LOL]with a rifle [Flower]

TFOGGER
08-11-2011, 11:56
The huge point most of us are missing: 99.9% of the time, these cowards will give pretty much anyone on here the once over, then move on to an easier target. My guess is nobody here walks down the street, head down, looking at their feet, in Condition White. I'm just guessing, but I'd say most of us walk around 24/7 in Conditions ranging from a nice canary yellow to a deep burnt orange. WE are not likely targets, and our body language will communicate that, whether we want it to or not. Hungry wolves seek out the sheep, not the sheepdogs.

Ronin13
08-11-2011, 12:02
with a riffle [Flower]

I'm sure he's banned or something, but gotta give a little ode to nynco!

TFOGGER, I agree... most of the time wolves take a look at the sheepdogs and decide it's not worth the effort.

Mtn.man
08-11-2011, 12:21
Yes

http://www.weirdspace.dk/LooneyTunes/Graphics/SamSheepdog.gif

alxone
08-11-2011, 12:32
riffle , [LOL][LOL], i almost forgot about that one

KevDen2005
08-11-2011, 12:33
Actually, that's been debunked... in real life that wouldn't actually happen in a clear cut self defense case- I asked my friend's wife who's a former ADA from MA and she said that if you have .mil training and you have to defend yourself you use whatever tools you need to defend yourself. You shouldn't be punished for using your training to defend yourself. That's why I thought Con Air was a ridiculous portrayal, but still fun to watch.


+1. I couldn't imagine even charging the guy from the start. I don't care what kind of training a person has. I think the movie has three on one, and the person defending doesn't have a weapon at all and tried to walk away...

But yes, fun to watch...."Put the bunny down."

Ronin13
08-11-2011, 13:01
+1. I couldn't imagine even charging the guy from the start. I don't care what kind of training a person has. I think the movie has three on one, and the person defending doesn't have a weapon at all and tried to walk away...

But yes, fun to watch...."Put the bunny down."

The part right before he says that:
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Malkovich is the man!

n8tive97
08-11-2011, 14:18
riffle , [LOL][LOL], i almost forgot about that one

RIFFLES FOR LIFE!

Ranger
08-11-2011, 14:20
RIFFLES FOR LIFE!

WE'RE TAKING IT BACK!

n8tive97
08-11-2011, 14:27
WE'RE TAKING IT BACK!

I can't believe he tried to hijack it! Thanks a ban able offense!

KevDen2005
08-11-2011, 15:08
Why is everyone YELLING!

Ranger
08-11-2011, 15:32
Because some folks are HARD OF HEARING :).

Ronin13
08-11-2011, 15:36
Because some folks are HARD OF HEARING :).

HUH!? WHAT?!? I can't hear you, can you speak into my good ear!? [LOL]

BlasterBob
08-11-2011, 18:03
Because some folks are HARD OF HEARING :).

Thanks, I had been wondering why I could clearly hear those posts with their shouting.[Coffee]