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I have an empty shell stuck in my AR-15. I've tried to push it out with a cleaning rod without any luck. It is realy stuck. I've also tried to pry it out. Is there a tool or some way to remove a ruptured shell?
Help
there is a tool!
is the rear completely missing or is it just a stuck case?
if the base is there, a good solid cleaning rod and a BFH should do the trick :)
2ndChildhood
09-26-2006, 21:26
I've seen people tap on stuck cases witha cleaning rod.
Hopefully those with experience will chime in.
Good luck!
HunterCO
09-26-2006, 21:32
What 7 said then we can help you will.
Great-Kazoo
09-26-2006, 22:14
let me see if i can find my .223 broken case extractor.
or use an easy out to reverse (unscrew) it.
Its a Wolf shell and the back is intact. The case rim is bent where the extractor could'nt remove it. I've tried the cleaning rod and hammer without any luck (two broken cleaning rods). I cant seem to get to it with any sort of pliers to unscrew it.
William
Get something solvent-like soaking in to attack the wolf polymer (or lacquer) coating, whatever you have that is safe for the bore. Then after a while get a rigid rod in the muzzle and repeatedly tap, not driving railroad spikes, but just tap. A whole lot of little taps, just lean it up against the sofa and tap while watching TV.
I do have one of those extractor thingys too, but won't be back in the springs until late friday.
Turn the muzzle up. Pour a bunch (a spoonfull or two) of acetone or Kroil in there and let it soak. Get a solid brass rod, about 20 caliber. Use it for a punch.
Most likely the laquer coating has glued the case to the chamber walls.
Then, never buy wolf or any coated ammo again.
shrapmetal
09-27-2006, 15:12
i used wolf before i was aware of their problems as well. i got one stuck in my TC G2 contender. broke my extractor right off. i took it in to specitalty sports and lawrence got it out for me for free using some kind of spray and a cleaning rod. it was really stuck good. now i only fire wolf thru my AKs. he told me he sees about 2 of those a week in ARs
How much did Specialty Sports charge for the fix?
How much did Specialty Sports charge for the fix?
i used wolf before i was aware of their problems as well. i got one stuck in my TC G2 contender. broke my extractor right off. i took it in to specitalty sports and lawrence got it out for me for free using some kind of spray and a cleaning rod. it was really stuck good. now i only fire wolf thru my AKs. he told me he sees about 2 of those a week in ARs
shrapmetal
09-27-2006, 15:21
they did it for free. im not sure if it was a favor to me or if they do it for anyone at that price. i do spend a lot of money in there so it could have been a favor. tell them shawn from shrapmetal sent you. it might help it might not. i do think lawrence takes weds off so call first if your going down today.
Turn the muzzle up. Pour a bunch (a spoonfull or two) of acetone or Kroil in there and let it soak. Get a solid brass rod, about 20 caliber. Use it for a punch.
Most likely the laquer coating has glued the case to the chamber walls.
Then, never buy wolf or any coated ammo again.
brake or carb cleaner will also break down the coating. Let it sit there for a little. and then tap it out with a solid rod. This is the same problem i had with a bolt rifle a couple years ago and it even had a nato spec chamber on it, that coated ammo is bad ju ju. At the time it happened to me, and after breaking a GI cleaning rod, I went to lowes and bought a brass dowel rod. they sell alum and brass rods you could probably use either or, take a pair of calipers with you so you get one that will fit. Cut it so its only a couple inches longer than your barrel. I poured a bit of marvins mystry oil down the barrel and let it sit for a couple of hours. It came out without to much issue after that, but still was a PITA.
That reason alone is why i dont buy steel ammo for any of my 5.56/.223 guns. I will run it through my AK's with no issue but none of my AR's any more. Its the only issue i have ever had with it but that was enough.
I poured some acetone into the barrel and the shell came right out. Thank you all for your help. :P
I poured some acetone into the barrel and the shell came right out. Thank you all for your help. :P
good deal
Next time you might just try some CLP or other lubricant and let it sit in the barrel a while. Then LIGHTLY tap on the back of the case with a cleaning rod. No hard hits, no hammering just "coax" it out.
That method has worked for me every time that's happened.
funkfool
11-08-2009, 10:18
Just had this happen yesterday on my Stag.... poured a 1/2 cap of solvent down the barrel and tapitty tapitty - no luck - waited a few hours and came back - viola - it tapped right out.
Now - do I need a chamber brush to clean the chamber or... what.
Daniel_187
11-08-2009, 10:59
I have had this happen with wolf, but not as bad as you guys had it. After I tapped it out i used a part of my cleaning rod and a chamber brush and a cordless drill and went at it and it cleaned it up good. Did this happen after a few mag went through it?
you guys need to stop using wolf ammo in ARs. this can't be good on your chamber.
shoot with my bushmaster all the time without any issues. a friend of mine had this happen to his RRA.
get a better rifle.
mightymouse
11-08-2009, 17:46
Some of the M4Carbine.net guys have also noticed a correlation between .223 or out of spec 5.56 chambers and Wolf ammo not getting along. I have one of Ned Christenson's 5.56 chamber reamers and if anyone wants to have it done they're welcome to use the reamer over here.
newracer
11-08-2009, 21:41
you guys need to stop using wolf ammo in ARs. this can't be good on your chamber.
shoot with my bushmaster all the time without any issues. a friend of mine had this happen to his RRA.
get a better rifle.
I have shot a lot of Wolf through my RRA with no problems.
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MichiganMilitia
11-09-2009, 00:18
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ryanek9freak
11-09-2009, 07:13
you guys need to stop using wolf ammo in ARs. this can't be good on your chamber.
+1. i won't ever use that steel cased rusky garbage in my expensive Colt. I tried it before with my CMMG and broke 2 extractors one right after another.
SA Friday
11-09-2009, 10:36
The only thing Wolf steel cased ammo should be shot out of is a cheap SKS or AK, IMO. I wouldn't use it in an AK that ran $1k. Using Wolf steel cased ammo in a good gun is like buying a Nextel Cup stock car and runnin 85 octane fuel in it. Ya it will run, but not like it should.
I've seen that crap break more extractor claws in rifles and pistols than anything else. Hell, I've seen it break Glock extractors and I thought they were pretty much un-crunchable.
I know times are hard, but they aren't that hard. Saving a couple of dollars on ammo like that could cost you in the long run.
funkfool
11-09-2009, 11:24
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