If it ain't broke...

[Ronin13]

So I was discussing AK's on another site (and due to some severe head trauma that I don't remember and have no evidence of, I can't remember what site it was) and someone was asking about upgrading the handguard and replacing the rear sight with a rail, then came a wave of people saying things like "Mikhail would ask 'Why you not satisfied with my design? You modify already great rifle with plastic crap?'" And other comments about how it is fine the way it is. While I love modding my AR (just added the RVG not too long ago), my AK looks exactly like Mr. Klashnikov designed it to look (even if it's not a Soviet Avtomat). I don't get on people for modding, but I do think it looks tacky, sort of like if someone modified an M1 Garand and it no longer looked "original."
Am I alone here, or am I just gun-old fashioned?

[PSS]

I feel the same way. Especially firearms with historical significance. But that was severely tested when I saw this. I want this.

http://i725.photobucket.com/albums/ww254/Gardner37/DSC_0028.jpg
http://i725.photobucket.com/albums/ww254/Gardner37/DSC_0020.jpg

[jreifsch80]

i too like the classic styling of wood and blued or parked or black painted steel. though i don't understand why people get all goofy about other people modding their on rifle. for what it's worth, Kalashnikov doesn't even like ak74's let alone 100 series ak's..... does that mean we shouldn't build ak74's or buy saigas? lol

[PSS]

I suppose it's a matter of taste too. When you see a ak with Tapco garbage hanging all over it, or a sks that bubba fixed up, or in the case of my dad's rifle, a 1917 Eddystone that he bought from a surplus sale back in the 70s. He borrowed the rifle to his buddy who decided to fix it up as a surprise to him. Put a wooden Monte Carlo stock, milled off the rear site, and replace the front site and then wondered why my dad wanted to beat him.

[OneGuy67]

I feel the same way. Especially firearms with historical significance. But that was severely tested when I saw this. I want this.

http://i725.photobucket.com/albums/ww254/Gardner37/DSC_0028.jpg
http://i725.photobucket.com/albums/ww254/Gardner37/DSC_0020.jpg


Daddy likes!!!

[BPTactical]

That is what is great about the hobby/sport.
You can change/modify to suit your taste.
I prefer my Avtomat Kalishnakova in its as manufactured form.................

[cfortune]

I'm not a fan of wood on my rifles. That AK posted above looks awesome to me. Except for the AR pistol grip. I'll take a hogue AK grip over almost any AR grip.


Do you guys hate on people who own AR's that don't have a fixed carry handle, A1 stock, and a standard hand guard?

OP, you sure you forgot what forum it was and just don't want to admit you post on /k/? ;)

[PSS]

Do you guys hate on people who own AR's that don't have a fixed carry handle, A1 stock, and a standard hand guard?


Nobody is hating on this thread yet. Not what I read anyway. It's probably more like this. For me. You buy a sks for $200. Then you convert it to take detachable mags. Possibly making it an illegal weapon in the process. (922r) Then you throw on a scope mount, a cheap scope, pistol grip, plastic stock, ect. All the time extolling the virtues of the sks over the ak. When what you should of bought is an ar15 which is more of a modular design.
When I see pictures like these, I don't like it. Sometime classic designs can be changed in a way that seems alright. But not usually to my taste.
http://carphotos.cardomain.com/ride_images/3/556/4761/26389880035_large.jpg

https://encrypted-tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTWkOpyQa82Za2lk_6HFbmvm-ffCLnYYPb82naVJyylHBRQXP6s-Q

http://www.icollector.com/images/1200/17679/17679_0353_4_lg.jpg

When you get to modern rifles mod away.

http://californiaar15.web.officelive.com/images/va9.jpg

[PSS]

It's so much easier to get a rifle that is more applicable to your needs than to throw tacticool plastic on something that was never meant to do what is asked of it. In a lot of the cases it doesn't work very well either. Scopes on sks, ak47s, extended mags on sks, by the time it's done it usually doesn't look natural and causes problems. I remember in the early 90s of all the "sniper" sks around for sale where I grew up. The nmh-91s were "sniper" rifles. It drives me crazy to see all the 1913 model rifles that were sporterized. But in the end it's not my rifle so do whatever to it. Every once in a while you'll see some one do something to a rifle like the draco above that causes you to make an exception.

[cfortune]

You're right, "hate on" was poor wording on my part. But you mention what someone should have bought was an ar15. I bought a Saiga .223 because I can shoot whatever I want through it, I could build the rifle up how I wanted to without throwing down $600+ off the bat, and still have the most dependable configuration.

[bryjcom]

With the AKs in this country they are not exactly "original" They have mandated U.S parts, made semi auto and mostly rebuilt on american made recievers.

I saw a guy take an all original and matching nazi marked K98 and have a gunsmith install lyman sites on it. Now THAT pissed me off!!

But to take a gun that has most likely been rebuilt and make some mods to it so YOU like it doesn't piss me off to much.

I agree though, a Garand modified with a rail just does not look "right"

[sniper7]

they are supposed to be full auto as well.

make it your own, that is what is soo awesome about the ak and the ar. there are almost no limits to the accessories you can add and swap out to make the rifle your own.

[mcantar18c]

I'm all for molding and whatnot... better grip, better handguard, whatever. But those quad rail handguards and AR stock adapters and other metro-AR crap is pretty gay.

[cfortune]

I'm all for molding and whatnot... better grip, better handguard, whatever. But those quad rail handguards and AR stock adapters and other metro-AR crap is pretty gay.


My ak does soooooo many dudes

http://img36.imageshack.us/img36/8701/croppedd.png

http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/8868/imag0269op.jpg

http://img545.imageshack.us/img545/8094/imag0274yk.jpg

[bryjcom]

How well does that dust cover hold zero for you sight? I have heard of those but wasn't sure how secure they are for the purpose of maintaining zero.


My ak does soooooo many dudes

http://img36.imageshack.us/img36/8701/croppedd.png

http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/8868/imag0269op.jpg

http://img545.imageshack.us/img545/8094/imag0274yk.jpg

[cfortune]

To tell you the truth, I'm not certain. I just got that aimpoint and had been using irons previously. I took it out yesterday though and didn't have any problems. But I didn't remove my cover or anything. I cleaned her when I got home so I guess I'll find out next time.

It sits very snug on the rifle but the question is whether it will go back in the same spot everytime.

[palepainter]

I look forward to your report after a tear down. I have been contemplating this system. I like the rear site that comes with the rail.