What To Do When The Police Come

[buckeye4rnr]

http://loadoutroom.com/2698/what-to-do-when-the-police-come/

I got this link from a site I frequent and while many of you already know what to do, it never hurts to read it over again.

If you're interested at all in what's going on with Special Forces today check out the main site sofrep.com... they have some awesome articles written by BTDT guys.

[Rooskibar03]

Always good to review this kind of information and keep it fresh in your mind. That said this article was so poorly written it takes away from the subject matter. Proof read before posting, or better yet read the article out loud and you will catch mistakes.

[buckeye4rnr]

Agreed but I didn't write the article. I fired off an email to the guy about some of the mistakes but who knows when he'll get around to looking at it.

[Mtn.man]

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[Ronin13]

Regardless of errors, good points there- I already have a "oh shit I had to defend myself" plan, which includes a rehearsed basis for what I'll say during a 911 call, to police when they arrive, and which lawyer to contact. [Beer]

[buckeye4rnr]

Regardless of errors, good points there- I already have a "oh shit I had to defend myself" plan, which includes a rehearsed basis for what I'll say during a 911 call, to police when they arrive, and which lawyer to contact. [Beer]

Care to give a brief summary? I'm curious what you've got prepared as right now I've got nothing other than to keep my mouth shut haha.

[Ronin13]

Care to give a brief summary? I'm curious what you've got prepared as right now I've got nothing other than to keep my mouth shut haha.

It's all situation dependent but...
911: Name, address of incident, "[I was attacked]/[someone broke into my home]/[brief description of cause for use of force], I feared for my life, shots were fired- [state that I own a gun and it will be placed in _____ location by the time police arrive], we need police and an ambulance at this location, I need to go check on my [family]/[neighbors]/[etc.], I'm hanging up now."
Police: "I will fully cooperate once I have consulted with my attorney, until then I invoke my right to remain silent and do not consent to any searches of my person, property, or residence (if applicable). I also request medical attention." Nothing follows.
[Beer]

[Chad4000]

hahaha the chris rock video is pretty awesome...

[JM Ver. 2.0]

It's all situation dependent but...
911: Name, address of incident, "[I was attacked]/[someone broke into my home]/, I feared for my life, shots were fired- [state that I own a gun and it will be placed in _____ location by the time police arrive], we need police and an ambulance at this location, I need to go check on my [family]/[neighbors]/[etc.], I'm hanging up now." [B]Don't Hang Up...
Police: "I will fully cooperate once I have consulted with my attorney, until then I invoke my right to remain silent and do not consent to any searches of my person, property, or residence (if applicable). I also request medical attention." Nothing follows. Sounds good... Other than your house will be a crime scene so you can't really deny access to the police if that's where the shit went down.
[Beer]

I say don't hang up because they'll ask you not to. You should remain on the line until the police arrive. That way the police always know where YOU are and they know YOU are the one that called. Prevents any "where is the guy with the gun" questions.

[10mm-man]

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[Ronin13]

I say don't hang up because they'll ask you not to. You should remain on the line until the police arrive. That way the police always know where YOU are and they know YOU are the one that called. Prevents any "where is the guy with the gun" questions.

I added the "if applicable" to mean if it happened outside the home I would mention I don't consent to a search of there, I should have clarified. But thanks for the rest there, I fixed my template to include don't hang up, I just don't want to set myself up for failure by putting myself in a position to say more than I need to...

[JM Ver. 2.0]

I added the "if applicable" to mean if it happened outside the home I would mention I don't consent to a search of there, I should have clarified. But thanks for the rest there, I fixed my template to include don't hang up, I just don't want to set myself up for failure by putting myself in a position to say more than I need to...

Totally get it. But put yourself in the dispatcher and cop's shoes...

You've got a guy that just said "my life was in danger" and "shots were fired."

The assumption is going to be, "This guy just shot someone" and "there are weapons involved."

If you hang up... Now they don't know where or who you are. They also don't know where at least one of the guns/weapons is.


It would put the police at ease to know where you are till they get there.

[BUC303]

If you hang up... Now they don't know where or who you are. They also don't know where at least one of the guns/weapons is.


It would put the police at ease to know where you are till they get there.


Well according to his plan he just gave them all of this information, minus maybe adding I will be sitting on my front porch if it were to have happened at home but he did give them his info and an address or location. I realize this is just an anticipated scenario but if it was real you have to add a great deal of stress and anxiety to this. I would think if they kept you on the phone and talking you would potentially say something that could be construed as incriminating towards yourself.

[Ronin13]

Well according to his plan he just gave them all of this information, minus maybe adding I will be sitting on my front porch if it were to have happened at home but he did give them his info and an address or location. I realize this is just an anticipated scenario but if it was real you have to add a great deal of stress and anxiety to this. I would think if they kept you on the phone and talking you would potentially say something that could be construed as incriminating towards yourself.

Yes, and that is a very scary thing, because as a cop friend once told me "EVERYTHING you say WILL be used against you in court, yes, even 911 tapes." Saying as little as possible is the best choice, but when you're in a stressful situation and adrenaline and anxiety is involved you will spill more beans that you probably intend... This is all a very crazy dilemma that I pray I never have to go through. I guess train train train, and when you're done with that, change things up a bit and train some more. [AR15]

[bellavite1]

Well, I 've tried a few times, but never really got a good answer:
I do not have a lawyer on speed call, so to speak.
I need somebody to refer me to a lawyer that, God forbid, I can call in a similar scenario.
If you do not feel comfortable posting the info feel free to PM me.
Any help would be greatly appreciated![Beer]

[JM Ver. 2.0]

Well according to his plan he just gave them all of this information, minus maybe adding I will be sitting on my front porch if it were to have happened at home but he did give them his info and an address or location. I realize this is just an anticipated scenario but if it was real you have to add a great deal of stress and anxiety to this. I would think if they kept you on the phone and talking you would potentially say something that could be construed as incriminating towards yourself.

His plan is great. But there are going to be a ton of questions coming from the dispatcher... They're gonna wanna know who is shot and how many. Are they still alive... Blah blah... It's just better to stay on the phone and answer every question except "what happened."


Yes, and that is a very scary thing, because as a cop friend once told me "EVERYTHING you say WILL be used against you in court, yes, even 911 tapes." Saying as little as possible is the best choice, but when you're in a stressful situation and adrenaline and anxiety is involved you will spill more beans that you probably intend... This is all a very crazy dilemma that I pray I never have to go through. I guess train train train, and when you're done with that, change things up a bit and train some more. [AR15]

You're friend is right.

[Ronin13]

His plan is great. But there are going to be a ton of questions coming from the dispatcher... They're gonna wanna know who is shot and how many. Are they still alive... Blah blah... It's just better to stay on the phone and answer every question except "what happened."

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Sorry had to... Of course I'm going to answer any pertinent questions I can that the dispatcher asks- I did grow up around the fire department up in Evergreen and have on many occasions made friends with the dispatchers up here. Of course one has to remain cognizant of what they're saying. [Beer]

[cstone]

uj0mtxXEGE8

While this Chris Rock video is funny, IT IS TRUE!

As for what to say after a traumatic incident, that depends on the incident, but the best all round, all purpose answer is: I'm not feeling well. I'd like to go to the hospital. While there and waiting to be seen and checked out, call a friend/family member (wife or clergy member) you trust and/or your lawyer. Lawyers are the best in these situations because they cannot be made to testify against you later regarding what you say. Let your lawyer do your talking for you. That is what you are paying them to do for you.

Be safe.