ND Considers Eliminating Property Tax

[Sharpienads]

How awesome would this be?

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/06/12/us/north-dakota-voters-consider-ending-property-tax.html?_r=2&hp

I would rather pay taxes in some other way (or shrink the size of government altogether) than pay property taxes. With property taxes, you never really own your property.

[SA Friday]

This usually ends up hiking consumer taxes and income taxes.

[ruthabagah]

I've always considered income or property tax the most useless and least equitable way to tax people..... The only tax we should have is a sales tax.

[HBARleatherneck]

i agree.

[lifeon2]

That would be nice.

[Zundfolge]

The problem with property tax is that it furthers the false notion that government owns all property and you just rent it from them.

The problem with income tax is that it furthers the false notion that government has the right to know how much money you make (let alone are entitled to take part of it).

Sales and usage taxes are the only fair way to do it ... unfortunately government has ballooned to a size significantly beyond what the founders envisioned to be able to survive on the tiny taxes they should be allowed to collect.

We're going to continue on until the system has a catastrophic failure ... then instead of blaming bloated government they'll blame capitalism and well all end up living in a giant communist prison camp (because capitalism IS freedom, freedom IS capitalism ... you can't separate the two).

[Great-Kazoo]

For the tax revenue ND is raking in, they don't care. ND will profit more per week from every swinging dick patch worker than they would off annual property tax.
The other reason is the more dwellings built the more people that will be spending their pay.

[sniper7]

I would love to get rid of property tax, and income tax. just sales tax is all that is needed.

[Great-Kazoo]

I would love to get rid of property tax, and income tax. just sales tax is all that is needed.


Imaging how much the bottom of the 99% would be shelling out for alcohol, smokes soda pop and candy bars for the kids.
Never happen with the dems not wanting to anger the highest voting bloc.

[Irving]

I would love to get rid of property tax, and income tax. just sales tax is all that is needed.

And no taxes on fees and fines.

[GilpinGuy]

Property taxes always seemed strange to me. I mean, we have the right to "own" property. But if we don't pay the govmint tax, they confiscate it. So, really, you only "rent" the property you supposedly "own". Don't pay da "rent", and you don't "own" it anymore.

Good for ND.

[Bailey Guns]

Defeated. God only knows why.

[Sharpienads]

Dang. I was hoping this would pass.

[aahorn]

The problem with property tax is that it furthers the false notion that government owns all property and you just rent it from them.

The problem with income tax is that it furthers the false notion that government has the right to know how much money you make (let alone are entitled to take part of it).

Sales and usage taxes are the only fair way to do it ... unfortunately government has ballooned to a size significantly beyond what the founders envisioned to be able to survive on the tiny taxes they should be allowed to collect.

We're going to continue on until the system has a catastrophic failure ... then instead of blaming bloated government they'll blame capitalism and well all end up living in a giant communist prison camp (because capitalism IS freedom, freedom IS capitalism ... you can't separate the two).

this is a homerun right here

[Zundfolge]

Defeated. God only knows why.
I suspect it was defeated because people are afraid that if Obama and the left are successful in destroying the oil industry and outlawing fracking then they won't be able to finance police/fire/schools (because the taxes on the oil industry and the economic growth its created recently are more than paying for those things now ... which is why they suggestion to drop property tax was brought up).

The dumb thinking there is that you can't re-institute the tax in the future if necessary?

[Sharpienads]

I suspect it was defeated because people are afraid that if Obama and the left are successful in destroying the oil industry and outlawing fracking then they won't be able to finance police/fire/schools (because the taxes on the oil industry and the economic growth its created recently are more than paying for those things now ... which is why they suggestion to drop property tax was brought up).

The dumb thinking there is that you can't re-institute the tax in the future if necessary?

Could be the reason. The proposal was an amendment to the state's constitution, so it may have been a little harder to change.

[Bailey Guns]

Could be the reason. The proposal was an amendment to the state's constitution, so it may have been a little harder to change.

Yeah...it didn't make sense to me to offer a constitutional amendment. Maybe a 5 year tax "holiday" with a sunset provision unless renewed or something similar is how I would've proposed it.

[GilpinGuy]

Yeah...it didn't make sense to me to offer a constitutional amendment. Maybe a 5 year tax "holiday" with a sunset provision unless renewed or something similar is how I would've proposed it.

This is a good idea. Let the folks see what they'll get for a few years and if they don't like it, it's done. If they like it, they'll renew it. True power to the people that way.

[Uberjager]

Why not tariffs? IIRC, quite a few other countries have severe tariffs on American made goods. We could give those countries "their fair share of tariffs".