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trlcavscout
06-23-2012, 19:04
I tried smoking it but couldnt get it to light? JK! So my dad used scotts turf builder 2 plus super dupee etc. Anyways instead or reading the directions he used like 4 times to much and now his grass is all but dead. Anything he can do or is it sod time next spring?
Sounds like you it might have burned it out. Man that sucks.
funkymonkey1111
06-23-2012, 19:09
dead is dead. you could put sod in right now and it would be just fine. then, read the directions and use Richlawn's Pro-Rich, which is made in Colorado.
Tinelement
06-23-2012, 19:14
I tried smoking it but couldnt get it to light? JK! So my dad used scotts turf builder 2 plus super dupee etc. Anyways instead or reading the directions he used like 4 times to much and now his grass is all but dead. Anything he can do or is it sod time next spring?
Roll it up and smoke it......
Wait you already said that in your first line!
Sod I guess.
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Maui Waui or Snicklefrits?
Byte Stryke
06-23-2012, 19:46
http://www.grassbgreen.com/
Water It, Alot. It will dilute the fertilizer.
Larry Ashcraft
06-23-2012, 20:00
Not dead, most likely, just burnt. He'll have to water the crap out of it and see if it comes back.
I wouldn't suggest sod with all this heat. We sodded in April and we're still fighting an uphill battle keeping it alive. And, we have a well, so I don't worry too much about over-watering.
I did seed in some small areas with the new Scotts seed that is coated with a white substance to help it retain water. That stuff is amazing! Rake up the ground, seed, and then add a 1/4" of composted steer manure and water. I had grass in five days!
Try South American bat guano fertilizer and a better hydoponics set-up... You mean yard grass don't you? Nevermind.
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Water It, Alot. It will dilute the fertilizer.
+1 and maybe add some grass seed too. In the future.... use a compost topdressing in late fall or early spring. It is WAYYYY cheaper and lasts longer than any fertilizer ever will. Fertilizer essentially gets washed through the soil after a certain amount of time while a compost topdressing will stay and the grass can "feed" from it when needed, it also helps with water retention (keeping the soil moist).
Most likely it is NOT a lost cause, grass is not as fragile as most people think and it should come back (at least if it was a healthy lawn in the first place), it may look like crap the rest of this year though. You should see some new sprouts start to come up after a week or two or three... if not then you may be S.O.L.
Water the holy sh*t out of it, if it's just burned it may be okay. No go on the grass seed right now, the fertilizer will just burn it up & kill it.
I love Scott's, but your dad must have put ALOT on to burn it that bad. Hopefully it'll come back but in this heat on top of it all it'll be a challange.
Water the holy sh*t out of it, if it's just burned it may be okay. No go on the grass seed right now, the fertilizer will just burn it up & kill it.
I love Scott's, but your dad must have put ALOT on to burn it that bad. Hopefully it'll come back but in this heat on top of it all it'll be a challange.
Correct, no seed right now, wait until the fertilizer is washed away or diluted down if you are going to try seeding. Sorry, should have been more clear.
Rake it all up and till it, then just sod it.
4x the directed amount of Scott's? What did he do, buy a pallet of that stuff? It's so 'watered down' by other things I'm amazed it did any damage. That stuff is WAY overpriced and you get very little actual fertilizer for your buying dollar. He needs to water and lots of it at this point. Water during the day too and allow it to dry overnight so you don't promote fungus growth.
trlcavscout
06-24-2012, 13:38
dead is dead. you could put sod in right now and it would be just fine. then, read the directions and use Richlawn's Pro-Rich, which is made in Colorado.
His house is on a well and always waters the hell out of it and he has been watering more lately because of this. Yea he used a whole bottle on the front and a bottle on the rear. His yard is maybe 2k sq ft total and 2 bottles would cover 10k per directions. His yard has always been very green and nice so hes all upset now. I will tell him to water more earlier in the evening.
His house is on a well and always waters the hell out of it and he has been watering more lately because of this. Yea he used a whole bottle on the front and a bottle on the rear. His yard is maybe 2k sq ft total and 2 bottles would cover 10k per directions. His yard has always been very green and nice so hes all upset now. I will tell him to water more earlier in the evening.
Those labels are pretty optimistic in their coverage claims and I would say that you could safely increase the dosage 2x and be fine. 4x may be borderline but when you add in the current heat, wind & utter lack of precipitation that would all be a recipe for what you describe. Fortunately, I think additional water may just help it pull through. Don't have him water in the evening. I would water three times a day to keep it cool/moist and it should come around. Again, don't water in the evening as it will just create a whole new set of problems he'll have to contend with.
trlcavscout
06-24-2012, 15:15
Those labels are pretty optimistic in their coverage claims and I would say that you could safely increase the dosage 2x and be fine. 4x may be borderline but when you add in the current heat, wind & utter lack of precipitation that would all be a recipe for what you describe. Fortunately, I think additional water may just help it pull through. Don't have him water in the evening. I would water three times a day to keep it cool/moist and it should come around. Again, don't water in the evening as it will just create a whole new set of problems he'll have to contend with.
Got it. He doesnt have a system so he only waters afterwork. He will have to figure something out.
Got it. He doesnt have a system so he only waters afterwork. He will have to figure something out.
Yeah, that does tend to make things more difficult. Best bet is to water several times once he's off work then. Moving it from area to area every little while then back to the beginning and through a few times will ensure the best possible absorption with the least amount of runoff. This method is a PITA w/o an automatic irrigation system but if you choose to water manually and want a nice yard I'm not telling anyone anything they don't already know.
jerrymrc
06-24-2012, 19:27
Yeah, that does tend to make things more difficult. Best bet is to water several times once he's off work then. Moving it from area to area every little while then back to the beginning and through a few times will ensure the best possible absorption with the least amount of runoff. This method is a PITA w/o an automatic irrigation system but if you choose to water manually and want a nice yard I'm not telling anyone anything they don't already know.
I understand that. Only on the weekends can I water in the morning. Oh well, It has not done anything strange watering in the evening for the last 15 years so I guess I am ok. My only saving grace is that our base water runs about $60 for 4000 gal. Increasing it to 9000 only raises the bill $20. I do keep it long. Pic about an hour ago.
We have Xeriscape on the side and back but I like a little lawn up front. [Flower] And I water by hand. http://i884.photobucket.com/albums/ac44/jerrymrc/Picture495Medium.jpg
Buy a bag of grass seed that is mostly clover and re seed it. Clover has longer and bigger roots than regular grass does and it will take hold real fast.[Beer]
Larry Ashcraft
06-25-2012, 09:29
Those labels are pretty optimistic in their coverage claims and I would say that you could safely increase the dosage 2x and be fine.
True. I use a 20-20-10-3 mix from Rocky Ford. In the fall I can spread 50 lbs (covers "up to 5000 sf") on my 1600 sf lawn. Whe it's this hot though, I use about 20 lbs and then water a lot.
Buy a bag of grass seed that is mostly clover and re seed it. Clover has longer and bigger roots than regular grass does and it will take hold real fast.[Beer]
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