"Wiki Weapons Project" - 3D Printed Lowers

[BUC303]

Long story short, they are trying to creat a file that would allow people to use a 3D printer to "print" a weapon at home. Seems like the legalities of such a venture would be overwhelming but nevertheless, they are attempting it.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/andygreenberg/2012/08/23/wiki-weapon-project-aims-to-create-a-gun-anyone-can-3d-print-at-home/

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[Fmedges]

Who has a 3d printer at home?

[cofi]

this....guy....is........so.......dramatic

[00tec]

A guy printed an AR lower not too long ago. Nothing illegal about it.

[Circuits]

First one was done about four years ago, actually - just the one "HaveBlue" on ar15.com did earlier this summer got a lot of media exposure.

Nothing illegal about it federally, or statewise, in Colorado. Other states could have or put into place restrictions at any time, though.

[kuench]

this....guy....is........so.......dramatic
[ROFL2][ROFL2][ROFL2] yes he is

[hollohas]

Why the hell would I buy a multi-thousand dollar rapid prototyper to make plastic weapons when I can, for example, buy an "incomplete" metal lower for $20 and make a functioning reciever on my drill press legally?

[Graves]

Why the hell would I buy a multi-thousand dollar rapid prototyper to make plastic weapons when I can, for example, buy an "incomplete" metal lower for $20 and make a functioning reciever on my drill press legally?

Because you can have your very own Glock 7! [Coffee]

[hollohas]

Because you can have your very own Glock 7! [Coffee]

Sweet!

(pulling out credit card, finding 3d printer online, clicking buy)

I will have one in 7 to 10 days!

[jmg8550]

Why the hell would I buy a multi-thousand dollar rapid prototyper to make plastic weapons when I can, for example, buy an "incomplete" metal lower for $20 and make a functioning reciever on my drill press legally?

Where are these $20 lowers you speak of?

[00tec]

Where are these $20 lowers you speak of?

What ^^ said.

[brutal]

Who has a 3d printer at home?

...because they can just print a complete printer for me.

I got a buck here. $1

Who's next?

[daknee_k]

What ^^ said.

http://www.tacticalinc.com/lower-receivers-c-374_410.html

DS Arms used to have them as well. Prices obviously have gone up.

[hollohas]

Where are these $20 lowers you speak of?

Sorry, I should have been more clear. They are technically NOT lowers. They are forgings. Nothing more than aluminum "paperweights" that look like AR lowers until you machine the holes, etc into them. A place called DSA used to have them but they aren't on the website anymore.

The 0% forgings run around $20 or less. They look like this and you need a milling machine to complete them.

http://www.colfaxtactical.com/2_2.jpg

There are also 30% and 80% complete paperweights that cost more but can be finished on a drill press with the correct tool.

A 30% looks like this and runs around $50

http://www.tacticalmachining.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/1/0/10005_600x600.jpg

And a 80% looks like this and runs around $80

http://www.tacticalmachining.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/1/0/10004_600x600.jpg

On that version you really won't save much over buying a lower at your local FFL but you get the fun of making it yourself.

Check out http://www.cncguns.com/. They sell a jig for your drill press, have great tutorials and a great forum with tips and tricks. I have not done this myself but have researched it for a long time. It is on my to-do list.

PS - You CANNOT sell or transfer lowers you machine yourself unless you are a licensed manufacture!

[hollohas]

http://www.tacticalinc.com/lower-receivers-c-374_410.html

DS Arms used to have them as well. Prices obviously have gone up.

Here is a source for $20 ones...

http://www.rguns.net/other.shtml

[10mm-man]

Might be pricey right now but as the technology develops the price comes down. The materials are a little weak right now but as it develops it will someday be strong enough.

[Beprepared]

Guy writes plans for 3D Printed Mags and gives the files away for free.
3D printers aren't new tech but the still run $2k
I have a feeling that these files will be harder to find in the near future.
Lets not start counterfeiting PMAG's. Just use this guys free design.

http://defensedistributed.com/wikiwep-a/

http://defcad.org/

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/01/18/the-end-of-gun-control-or-anarchy-see-the-chilling-possibilities-created-by-3d-printed-guns/

[HBARleatherneck]

delete

[Beprepared]

Thanks for the additional info.
Some of these newer machines have a copy feature. Scan...print...patent infringement.

[hollohas]

The acrylics used by 3d papid prototypers are pretty weak. The lowers have already been shown to fail within a couple rounds and I suspect that the feed lips on a 3d printed mag would NEVER hold up. That said, nothing would ever be invented if the inventor gave up the first time he failed. Maybe it will change the industry somwday, but I suspect that's a long ways away...

[O2HeN2]

I have a feeling that these files will be harder to find in the near future.
This is the kind of stuff that will make the liberals get behind the thinking that "some restrictions on the first amendment are OK".

After all, we need to do it for the children!

O2

[kwando]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=wuDCW_Rn5JI

Pretty impressive if you ask me, and the printers are becoming cheaper and cheaper

[nynco]

They need to make one like the Cav Arms lower.

[blacklabel]

There's a group also working on printing AR magazines.

[HBARleatherneck]

delete

[Scanker19]

So it legal in NY?

[sniper7]

whats the point, polymer lowers are already out there, junk IMO...but they are out there. I'll stick my what has worked for about 50 years.

[JM Ver. 2.0]

whats the point, polymer lowers are already out there, junk IMO...but they are out there. I'll stick my what has worked for about 50 years.

The printed ones are cheaper to make. But, you get what you pay for.

[theGinsue]

http://www.ar-15.co/threads/83203-3D-printers-and-gun-parts?highlight=printer

http://www.ar-15.co/threads/61698-quot-Wiki-Weapons-Project-quot?highlight=printer

maybe we could combine
Good idea. Done.

[omegalopez]

I have the 3D models downloaded. Just Need the printer.[Coffee]

[ChunkyMonkey]

Carrier tilt broke that lower... same thing happened to a plum crazy lower. Maybe, thats why cav arms beefed up their stock and decided to go w/ A2 style.

[sniper7]

The printed ones are cheaper to make. But, you get what you pay for.

true dat! I'm sticking to my $500-$900 AR lowers! BTW...I can no longer give you shit for $500 lowers....it is now official that they can go for that crazy amount!