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ScooterCO
10-08-2012, 15:46
Interesting report on the wildfires in our state this summer. This was just sent to me by my Manager. I am in the Insurance business and if you are not aware about rising costs... You will.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SFHM0rd9cX8&feature=share&fb_source=message (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SFHM0rd9cX8&feature=share&fb_source=message)
Sorry if this is a repost, but I did do a search.[Coffee]
spittoon
10-08-2012, 15:53
dirty rat dastards keep your eyes open,, wait this is a peaceful religion they just wanted to have wenni roast and marshmallows
hghclsswhitetrsh
10-08-2012, 15:54
dirty rat dastards keep your eyes open,, what this is a peaceful religion they just wanted to have wenni roast and marshmallows
You talking about the insurance companies right?
ScooterCO
10-08-2012, 16:06
Thanks for fixing the title.
Easy now on the insurance companies. This story is not about us, it is about those cowards who use fire to hurt Americans.
I had not heard anything about this tie-in at all!
hghclsswhitetrsh
10-08-2012, 16:09
Thanks for fixing the title.
Easy now on the insurance companies. This story is not about us, it is about those cowards who use fire to hurt Americans.
I had not heard anything about this tie-in at all!
Yeah I really try to feel bad for the insurance companies. Now course no offense to you, and with all due respect etc etc.
I can't remember the last time a large insurance company that posted a loss...
ChunkyMonkey
10-08-2012, 16:15
http://publicintelligence.net/dhs-terrorist-interest-in-using-fire-as-a-weapon/
Few DHS investigators were working with local agencies during the front range fire. There were rumor of some kind of similar device at the ignition point in some of the fire.
That was interesting. I wonder who that was and if he's credible.
spittoon
10-08-2012, 16:49
You talking about the insurance companies right?
no the minute mark 100-250 but if we are at war and it is a act of war do the insurance company have to pay??
BPTactical
10-08-2012, 18:32
There was a published "directive" and "how to" in an Al Queda publishing early in the spring IIRC. I recall hearing the qoute: "the west shall burn from within".
Makes perfect sense to disrupt an economy plus tie up substantial resources.
I've seen that video, I cannot recall if I commented about it on this board or not.
The jihadi is very resourceful, I wouldn't put anything past them. They'll follow their leadership like sheep to the slaughter.
I can't remember the last time a large insurance company that posted a loss...
Seems like about every large scale natural disaster is a posted loss for insurance companies.
Want a place to direct your blame for high insurance rates? Take a look at this video/article.
http://www.myfoxphilly.com/story/19722085/9-face-insurance-fraud-charges-after-casino-trolley-crash
theGinsue
10-08-2012, 22:00
That was interesting. I wonder who that was and if he's credible.
Yes, he is VERY credible. Amazing background. Formerly with the NSA, etc.
He and a few others wrote a book called Space Wars. Here's a description of those authors:
Michael J. Coumatos is a former U.S. Navy test pilot, ship's captain, and commodore; U.S. Space Command director of wargaming; and a government counterterrorism advisor. William Scott is a retired bureau chief of Aviation Week and Space Technology and a nine-year Air force veteran who served as aircrew on nuclear sampling missions. He is a six-time Royal Aeronautical Society "Journalist of the Year" finalist, and won the Society's 1998 Lockheed Martin Award for the "Best Defense Submission." He also received both the 2006 and 2007 Messier-Dowty awards for "Best Airshow Submission." With the help of New York Times bestselling author William J. Birnes, these renowned experts have joined forces to grippingly depict how the first hours of World War III might play out in the year 2010.
Quite the pedigree and his close group of friends tells me he is quite credible.
There was a published "directive" and "how to" in an Al Queda publishing early in the spring IIRC. I recall hearing the qoute: "the west shall burn from within".
Makes perfect sense to disrupt an economy plus tie up substantial resources.
+1 this. As all of these fires were burning, I posted something to the effect of this tie-in. No one acknowledged my post.
Folks, we have a cunning enemy in this "religion of peace". Don't deceive yourselves into believing their ultimate goal is anything short of destroying the "infidels". You can believe all you want that they're mostly - aside from a few extremists - a decent people. Islam is not a religion, it is an ideology and it's not just those of middle-eastern descent who subscribe to it. More and more liberal/socialist minded people around the world, including here in the U.S., are adopting the Islamic philosophy as their way of life.
I'll say it again, the enemy is cunning and patient, looking for every opportunity and sign of weakness from those who do not subscribe to their way. While we've seen tremendous growth in their numbers in the last 50 years, they've lasted thousands of years and won't stop until we're dead or enslaved. They're in it for the long haul and plan to win at all costs, even if they have to do it via a "death from a thousand paper cuts" manner. They don't want to be our friends, they want to be our Masters!
Right on Ginsue, too bad more people do not understand what we're up against.
ScooterCO
10-09-2012, 11:58
What is amazing to me is who is sitting around thinking up this stuff? Are the Al Qaeda sitting in caves, scratching themselves saying ok what else... Whats next...
I think we should be suppling them with I Love Lucy and The Honeymooners reruns.
You know, fight fire with fire!
Al-Qaeda blamed for Europe-wide forest fires http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/al-qaeda/9585098/Al-Qaeda-blamed-for-Europe-wide-forest-fires.html
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2012/10/as-threatened-is-this-happening.html
I was with him until he started talking about how to prevent it. Flying a F16 over CO forests 24/7 watching for fires? come on.
there comes a point where it is cheaper (and less invasive) to just deal with the effects and move on.
So what you're saying is that the Conifer fire wasn't started by our own State Forest Service but Al Qaeda... or there are AQ operatives IN our forest service? /tinfoil
I'm saying it is feasible someone may want to start fires to damage the economy, not that anyone actually is.
I'm also saying it is not feasible to stop anyone who desires to start fires.
Not to put too fine of a point on it...anything other than a pale face would stick out like a sore thumb up here. We do have fire bugs. There were suspicious fires last year and this year that were contained before they grew to any appreciable size.
Is terrorism (Al-Qaeda) the easy scape goat? There are some fawked up "home growns" that make more sense to me. Our local email board gets numerous reports of campfires left burning every week.
IIRC acts of terrorism are not covered by insurance unless there is a special rider policy.
Tinelement
10-10-2012, 05:49
Interesting video.
Makes sense. Economy is already in the shitter, our dear leader is making it even worse, seem like good way for them to try to make things worse for us.
Wasn't there reports of someone running around starting shit on fire down by the Springs as out the time of the Waldo Canyon Fire??
Pretty scary if its all true.
BushMasterBoy
10-10-2012, 08:54
If I remember correctly, aerial fire fighting operations were suspended temporarily due to the sighting of a fireball appearance. The fireball was a asteroid! I'm glad it wasn't the size of the one that hit Arizona 50,000 years ago as we would all be dead.http://paleo.cc/ce/barringer-crater-az.jpg
Not to put too fine of a point on it...anything other than a pale face would stick out like a sore thumb up here. We do have fire bugs. There were suspicious fires last year and this year that were contained before they grew to any appreciable size.
Is terrorism (Al-Qaeda) the easy scape goat? There are some fawked up "home growns" that make more sense to me. Our local email board gets numerous reports of campfires left burning every week.
IIRC acts of terrorism are not covered by insurance unless there is a special rider policy.
You are correct- acts of terrorism are not covered by insurance- however, fire is covered, and I'm not sure there is any precedence stating that fire by terrorism would lead to a denied claim... This is unfamiliar territory here.
If an act of terrorism started the fire, then it wouldn't be covered.
If an act of terrorism started the fire, then it wouldn't be covered.
Actually just looked at a Special Form HO-3 (From Travelers) and the exclusions do not state anything about terrorism- It says acts of war and any direct and indirect result of, but terrorism is not in there, and nothing that says anything about or relating to terrorism. So one would be covered. But I would glance at your policy to make sure the word or any related terms to terrorism are in there. So my previous post is incorrect.
What was the name of the domestic terrorist group that burned down a restaurant on Vail Mountain?
EarthFirst or something like that.
What was the name of the domestic terrorist group that burned down a restaurant on Vail Mountain?
EarthFirst or something like that.
Oh yeah, I remember that! It was "Earth Liberation Front" (ELF [LOL])...
http://www.vaildaily.com/article/20051214/NEWS/51213008
Some policies have specific named exclusions, and some do not.
ALF and ELF are terrorists for sure.
Oh yeah, I remember that! It was "Earth Liberation Front" (ELF [LOL])...
http://www.vaildaily.com/article/20051214/NEWS/51213008
One of their own ratted out the whole crew to save his skin.
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