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Westminster motorcycle rider dead after Boulder Canyon wreck
By Joe Rubino,Camera Staff Writer
Posted: 10/20/2012 04:07:30 PM MDT
A 29-year-old Westminster man was killed Saturday when he crashed his 2012 Harley Davidson motorcycle into the side of car he was attempting to pass and was then run over by another vehicle in Boulder Canyon, officials say.
At 3:40 p.m, the rider, whose identity has not been released, was driving eastbound on Boulder Canyon Drive near mile post 32 when he attempted to pass four cars on the two-lane road in a no-passing zone, according to Colorado State Patrol Sgt. Mike Baker.
The rider tried to slip back into the eastbound lane between the first and second car in line, but clipped the first car, according to investigators. He fell off his motorcycle and landed in the westbound lane where he was run over by an oncoming car, Baker said.
The rider was not wearing a helmet, according to initial reports. He was declared dead at the scene.
No one else was hurt in the accident, Baker said, and the drivers of the two other vehicles involved cooperated with investigators at the scene.
Officials are investigating if alcohol or excessive speed played a role in the wreck.
Boulder Canyon Drive was closed in both directions between Hurricane Hill and Sugarloaf Road for four hours after the accident.
This happened in an area called The Narrows. Steep grade and tight turns.
I knew the people in car #4. They still are not having a good day.
Play stupid games. Win stupid prizes.
Bet that one was gross to see [Puke]
dumbass....
That sucks. Just remember be safe and don't be impatient and do stupid things.
As a fellow Harley rider, I have only one thing to say....
Dumbass.
Sorry, I have little empathy for people who do stupid things to cause their own demise.
StagLefty
10-21-2012, 11:55
WOW-you guys are harsh !!!
Dude was driving like a jackass, and wasn't wearing any safety gear. The world is a smarter place now.
USMC88-93
10-21-2012, 12:20
Zero sympathy for the dead idiot.
Lots of sympathy for the others involved and those that have to deal with the aftermath.
Drove past the spot about 30 minutes ago. Of ALL the potential places to pull a stunt like this up the canyon between Ned & Boulder, he picked the single worst place...and got his just reward.
Tinelement
10-21-2012, 13:45
Well,
educations don't come cheap
BushMasterBoy
10-21-2012, 14:11
I had a Harley rider do this to me on Trout Creek Pass between Buena Vista and Hartsel. Rode my bumper for miles, finally overtook and faced a semi coming. I had to hit the brakes so he could get back in the lane. Always some jerk out there to ruin it for everybody.
Lots of sympathy for the others involved and those that have to deal with the aftermath.
Well put.
While most of us posting a reply to this seem a bit uncaring for the individual, I would venture that all of us feel for those who were involved and those of his family and friends who are dealing with the loss.
DD977GM2
10-21-2012, 14:44
As sad as this is, sounds like Darwin won another one
I feel for the person that rode over him as I find even driving over a rodent a bit disconcerting. Not to mention any damage done to their muffler and undercarriage.
JohnTRourke
10-21-2012, 15:13
I saw the headline on the paper website a few hour back.
Before even reading it I knew 3 things.
1. it would be a new motorcycle (yep, 2012)
2. It would be a Harley (yep, although this one was in doubt)
3. The guy wouldn't have a helmet on. (yep)
These stories almost write themselves.
As a fellow Harley rider, I have only one thing to say....
Dumbass.
Sorry, I have little empathy for people who do stupid things to cause their own demise.
Agreed. I wasn't also shocked in the least bit to see he wasn't wearing a helmet. Not that it would've made any difference from the sound of it. Regardless, majority of people I see riding Harley's don't wear helmets. I know, keeping you brain pan intact just isn't cool. [ROFL1]
I don't wear a helmet. It has nothing to do with being cool. It's because I'm just more comfortable that way. The only person I put in danger is myself. If it gets me killed one day then someone somewhere will probably start a thread about what a dumbass I am. But had I been in that guys place I would probably be just fine because I wouldn't have been riding like a dipshit in the first place.
Ray, does your family have a contingency plan in the case that you do not die in an accident, but your medical bills exceed your coverages?
DSB OUTDOORS
10-21-2012, 18:06
I wear full gear, I promised my 6yo neice that I would! And I'm not gona back out on that.
P.S. My body is too banged up, if I take another spill, I don't know if I could make it out anyway.
This guy?? Well may he R.I.P.
Motorcycles and aircraft are two places where stupid often really hurts. I've paid some dues in this area when I was quite a bit younger - nearly lost my right leg. Too bad this guy's lesson wasn't a bit less final. Glad his foolishness didn't hurt anybody else.
I currently ride an 88 inch Softail instead of a crotch rocket because I find dumb stunts like the original topic of this thread to be a bit less tempting on the hog. Being on the wrong side of 60 helps a little bit, too. Now I hang back and enjoy the ride instead of trying to see how long my foot-peg spark trail can be in the corners.
I have mixed feelings about the helmet issue. While I usually wear one, I have no illusion that it will save me at freeway speeds; a helmet works best at lower speeds, where injuries to other parts of the body are more survivable. I am, however, absolutely opposed to laws requiring helmet use; my body belongs to me, not the state.
ezgoinrob
10-21-2012, 18:22
I have to agree as another fellow HD rider... Dumbass.
Its sad but you cant fix stupid.
Ez
As a fellow Harley rider, I have only one thing to say....
Dumbass.
Sorry, I have little empathy for people who do stupid things to cause their own demise.
ezgoinrob
10-21-2012, 18:27
And on the helmet issue... I have a friend that retired from the FD. He told me basically over 45mph all a helmet does is keep your head intact so you dont have to have a closed casket. He had seen many motorcycle accidents and deaths in his 20+ years and I greatly respect his opinion. I do not think it should be a law just as I dont think seat belts should. Granted they both "can" save lives.. but it should be your choice!
Ez
Vote YES on Ammendment 64
^ I don't agree with that at all. I've seen accidents where guys went down at triple digit speeds their helmets kept them alive. I've heard that excuse too many times and I don't agree with it ever. "I'm going to die anyway" is a horrible justification that people use to not wear helmets. Gear up, no matter what.
If it gets me killed one day then someone somewhere will probably start a thread about what a dumbass I am.
Why wait? [Coffee]
There is about one motorcycle fatality, in Boulder Canyon, every year. I just cringe when I see a temp tag on the bike in front of me. Too many newbs that just want to rip it up. Saturday afternoon ain't the time.
10 to 1 says he didn't have a motorcycle endorsement on his license.
And on the helmet issue... I have a friend that retired from the FD. He told me basically over 45mph all a helmet does is keep your head intact so you dont have to have a closed casket. He had seen many motorcycle accidents and deaths in his 20+ years and I greatly respect his opinion. I do not think it should be a law just as I dont think seat belts should. Granted they both "can" save lives.. but it should be your choice!
Ez
Vote YES on Ammendment 64
Yeah, I gotta chime in on that. I've been off on the racetrack at 90+, and because of my safety gear, walked away with nothing more than bruises.
We make our choices, we accept the consequences.
RIP, rider.
Great-Kazoo
10-21-2012, 19:15
10 to 1 says he didn't have a motorcycle endorsement on his license.
Who cares, helmet, no helmet, safety gear or not. Unless you know the road, have a clear field of vision and hopefully some room to pass, back off the throttle. When i passed in the canyon, there was plenty of room and i rode mc's capable of responding when i twisted the wick. No they were not crotch rockets and no i did not wear a helmet.
Gear or not, people pull in front of, turn left or NEVER SAW the MC. Would wearing a helmet have saved them maybe maybe not. I do find it pathetic when a rider is killed the media emphasizes how the rider was not wearing a helmet.
Let's completely toss out the fact the MC HELMETLESS RIDER was hit by a drunk doing 75 in a 30 @ 3am wrong side of the road and no lights. Yep that helmet would have made a difference.
Same for a gun used in a crime, Assault Weapon, High Capacity, Not for anything other than killing etc.
In this case the guy fucked up and paid for it, condolences to all.
spqrzilla
10-21-2012, 20:02
There are lots of accidents where the helmet will make no difference. Possibly this was one.
There are lots of accidents where the helmet makes all the difference.
Don't mean to be cruel but indeed, play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
grubby669
10-21-2012, 23:38
And on the helmet issue... I have a friend that retired from the FD. He told me basically over 45mph all a helmet does is keep your head intact so you dont have to have a closed casket. He had seen many motorcycle accidents and deaths in his 20+ years and I greatly respect his opinion. I do not think it should be a law just as I dont think seat belts should. Granted they both "can" save lives.. but it should be your choice!
Ez
Vote YES on Ammendment 64
I have crashed at some high speeds and ran my head in to things on the way. I know a buddy personally who has hit a wall at over 100 mph and is walking and talking now thanks to the gear he wore. I have witnessed a friend get his head run over and lived. Gear saves lives period. There are some instances where no matter what happens gear wont save you, but to write it off like it doesnt mean anything is something else.
I do agree on the helmet law. It should be personal choice.
I have crashed at some high speeds and ran my head in to things on the way. I know a buddy personally who has hit a wall at over 100 mph and is walking and talking now thanks to the gear he wore. I have witnessed a friend get his head run over and lived.
Sounds like you and your riding buddies should be more careful. [Coffee]
grubby669
10-21-2012, 23:54
Sounds like you and your riding buddies should be more careful. [Coffee]
Ah... I should have stated that every bad crash I have ever witnessed or been apart of was on a closed course circuit so it is about the safest environment you can ride a motorcycle at speed. [Beer]
Interesting how motorcycle threads always turn to helmets.
Great-Kazoo
10-22-2012, 00:24
Interesting how motorcycle threads always turn to helmets.
Which i do not condemn those (like me) who CHOOSE not to wear them. It's a choice, like a gun. As a former mc rider and a gun owner i don't care if you wear a helmet or not. Don't care if you own a gun or not. Some feel if you do not wear a helmet it's stupid. YET say the same about owning a gun and their tune changes.
^ I don't agree with that at all. I've seen accidents where guys went down at triple digit speeds their helmets kept them alive. I've heard that excuse too many times and I don't agree with it ever. "I'm going to die anyway" is a horrible justification that people use to not wear helmets. Gear up, no matter what.
its like the anti seatbelt guys saying they will get thrown to safety [ROFL1]
true story my best friend growing up was playing in the street when he was 7 or 8 and was watching some guy learn to wheelie......no helmet fell of his bike at 25mph and used his head and the curb to stop he was drt
his bike was fine however
bellavite1
10-22-2012, 07:27
Helmet is apparently not a factor...
But passing 4 (FOUR???) cars at once on a two lane road?
Now, that is retarded.
I have been on two wheels for 30 years now, and, knock on wood, I never broke a single bone in my body.
And yes, i did ride hard in my younger years (those who know me better know what I am talking about).
Sorry, stupid should hurt.[Bang]
a helmet would not have saved this guy from stupid .
"he attempted to pass four cars on the two-lane road in a no-passing zone"
lets see , do we act like a bunch of lib commies and start screaming about helmets or do we point to the obvious ? the stupidity of trying to pass not 1 but 4 cars in the mountains and a no passing zone at that .
wearing a helmet is like carrying a firearm , you do or you dont , not much middle ground there
DD977GM2
10-22-2012, 07:51
I was in a motocycle accident back in May. It was a road rage incident and I wont go into details right here.
My safety gear saved my tail.
I was ejected and then impacted on the vehicle then on the pavement and then
slide for around 100ft. If I had not had a helmet,jacket,gloves,pants and boots, I wouldnt be typing this today.
Im at about 80% back from being injured. No broken bones...just banged up really bad and
ligament issues. Im itching to get back and ride. It was his fault and thats one of
the risks we take when we ride. That risk is the other drivers and their negligence.
This guy took his own life into his hands, he made decisions that can not be reversed.
Faulting someone for not wearing a helmet or whatever is BS. They chose to
not wear this or that and they are then accepting the consequences of their decisions.
Darwin definatly won on this and I feel for the family of the rider and I feel for
the people in the vehicle.
^ I don't agree with that at all. I've seen accidents where guys went down at triple digit speeds their helmets kept them alive. I've heard that excuse too many times and I don't agree with it ever. "I'm going to die anyway" is a horrible justification that people use to not wear helmets. Gear up, no matter what.
Wearing a helmet is a personal choice. But choosing to wearing one is the only intelligent choice. I have ridden motor cycles for ten years now and a helmet is probably the only reason I am alive or not a vegetable. Regardless of your type of riding, speed you are traveling, or where you are at it provides significant protection and will save your life. I was riding at the speed limit obeying all laws and the lady just did not see me as she pulled out. Ride as safe as you want but you must realize that you are on a road filled with dumb teenage distracted drivers (also liberals drive and are not much better) and sometimes you will pay the price for their stupidity.
This guy was obviously riding like an idiot. I don't know why people feel the need to ride / drive like jackasses. I think it is because they have never actually ridden on a track or had a serious accident. There are two types of motorcycle riders, there are those who have crashed and those who will. Hopefully your crash teaches you a lesson, but as we can see sometimes your lesson only serve as a lesson to others. I feel for the families involved on all sides of this, he probably had no idea what he was doing and wanted the adrenaline rush. Hopefully a couple smarter people considering riding will see this story and make better choices.
Here is a pic of the Narrows. Add in to this steep grades. Boulder Falls is at the top north/east side of the pic. What part of this road looks like a good passing area?
I doubt a helmet would have improved anyone's decision making skills.
http://pic100.picturetrail.com:80/VOL594/13497691/24191215/404343701.jpg
Now, back to the [Train].
Here is a pic of the Narrows. Add in to this steep grades. Boulder Falls is at the top north/east side of the pic. What part of this road looks like a good passing area?
I doubt a helmet would have improved anyone's decision making skills.
http://pic100.picturetrail.com:80/VOL594/13497691/24191215/404343701.jpg
Now, back to the [Train].
ohh looks like a fun road i miss the twisties its all strait and flat out east co
ohh looks like a fun road i miss the twisties its all strait and flat out east co
The trouble is there is usually enough people on the twisties that you can't really relax and enjoy them. That there are too many blind corners.
too bad for this guy and his family. definitely a stupid decision that cost him his life. I highly doubt a helmet would have saved him in this case.
I am another pro-helmet person. My uncle died after hitting a dog while riding his 4 wheeler home and landed on his head. a helmet would have saved his life.
But just like seatbelts, I don't think it should be a law. personal choice, you know the risk, you reap the reward.
flexlarson
10-22-2012, 23:54
Funny harley guys dont wear helmets and gear. I ride dualsport bike and wear helmet riding boots and other gear depending on trip. Its saved my skin a few times going down st liw speeds. Watched buddy slide out in corner one time and slide down rd on face shield and stomach got up no prob. Without jacket full face and riding pants coulda been skin grafting fun. . Friends from sdthat ride hogs dont wear helmets or gear. I think for purely tough guy looks only. Look at sturgis how many helmets and aerostich riding jackets u see?
I was in a motocycle accident back in May. It was a road rage incident and I wont go into details right here.
My safety gear saved my tail.
I was ejected and then impacted on the vehicle then on the pavement and then
slide for around 100ft. If I had not had a helmet,jacket,gloves,pants and boots, I wouldnt be typing this today.
Im at about 80% back from being injured. No broken bones...just banged up really bad and
ligament issues. Im itching to get back and ride. It was his fault and thats one of
the risks we take when we ride. That risk is the other drivers and their negligence.
This guy took his own life into his hands, he made decisions that can not be reversed.
Faulting someone for not wearing a helmet or whatever is BS. They chose to
not wear this or that and they are then accepting the consequences of their decisions.
Darwin definatly won on this and I feel for the family of the rider and I feel for
the people in the vehicle.
That sucks man, but glad you're on the mend. What became of the road rage guy?
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