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Besides the 10mm AR upper discussed below, are there any 10mm carbines? Can't recall seeing them, and it striked me that'd be a good round out of a carbine-rifle length barrel.
You still see the mech tech glock carbine uppers around. Not sure if they are still made?
Colorado Osprey
10-29-2012, 05:21
The 10mm when shot from a carbine is a very potent weapon.
If you load rounds specific for a carbine you can make it even more potent.
As a general rule of thumb you can gain between 1-300 ft/sec shooting pistol ammo from a 16" carbine. Load for a carbine using slower powders to utilize the barrel length for a longer burn and you can get 500 plus ft/sec gain.
That means around 2000ft/sec with a 125 grain bullet
1900ft/sec with a 165
1700ft/sec with a 180
FWIW that is more energy than a hunting 44 magnum from a 6" revolver at the muzzle and flatter shooting and a 20 round magazine!
I love my Oly 10mm carbine.
There are 10mm versions of the MP5 and UMP/USC families. I'll bet they're pricey, though. A google search turned up a bunch of other stuff, too.
Cool, thanks guys. Think I want one based on a Glock 20, or possibly a Delta Elite.
Cool, thanks guys. Think I want one based on a Glock 20, or possibly a Delta Elite.
Wow, great thought. I'd love for you to keep this thread going if/when you make any progress. I'm now interested in one based on a glock 20 as well.
Right now I'm leaning toward the Mech Tech unit as I want the longer barrel for velocity. Like these: http://glockparts.com/ManufacturersProducts.aspx?MANF=172
Right now I'm leaning toward the Mech Tech unit as I want the longer barrel for velocity. Like these: http://glockparts.com/ManufacturersProducts.aspx?MANF=172
That's really cool. Definitely new to me.
They are cool. Have thought about the Mec tech.
I could def go for a sub 2k in 10mm. Hint hint keltec.
I saw a used mech tech 10mm at tanner not too long ago.
I wonder if lone wolf will put their upper out in 10??
I agree that a 10mm carbine would be an ideal weapons platform. If there was an affordable, functional, reliable option available on the market, I would probably prefer it over the AR. I don't care much for the Mech-Tech units, and the HK MP10 is impossible to own. I would love to see something practical, like a Beretta CX4 or HK USC, but designed specifically around the 10mm cartridge. Specifically, I am picturing a USC carbine, but at CX4 pricing, and with readily available magazines, sans the pretentious attitude. Somebody pinch me, because I am dreaming!Be interested to hear what you don't like about the Mech Tech units, am pretty close to buying one.
I agree that a 10mm carbine would be an ideal weapons platform. If there was an affordable, functional, reliable option available on the market, I would probably prefer it over the AR. I don't care much for the Mech-Tech units, and the HK MP10 is impossible to own. I would love to see something practical, like a Beretta CX4 or HK USC, but designed specifically around the 10mm cartridge. Specifically, I am picturing a USC carbine, but at CX4 pricing, and with readily available magazines, sans the pretentious attitude. Somebody pinch me, because I am dreaming!
Be interested to hear what you don't like about the Mech Tech units, am pretty close to buying one.
As am I.
DenverLEO, what kind of insight or experience do you have with the MechTechs? Is it just from an appearance/cannibalization aspect that turns you off, or is it something more?
I hear what you're saying, and I too would love to find a CX4 or USC or even Kel-tec Sub2000 in 10mm. But in the mean time the Mech Tech strikes me as a good force multiplier. I could see instead of having a truck pistol in 1 location and a rifle in another, I could instead use a G20 as the pistol, and pop the Mech Tech on if I needed longer range and/or more power. Hmmmmm. :)
SideShow Bob
11-03-2012, 23:46
Does anyone have any facts on the legality of these conversion kits and swapping back and forth from pistol to rife and back to pistol ? A while back I was thinking about one of the 1911 conversion kits, and upping it to .45 Super.
Wouldn't this be the same as taking an AR pistol, making it a rifle, then converting it back to a pistol ? As I understand, this is a big problem as far as the ATF is concerned. But I could be wrong, it wouldn't be the first time. [Tooth]
Does anybody make a 10mm levergun, like Marlin, Winchester or Henry? Or do those require rimmed cartridges? I likes my .44mag Winnie.
freqlord
11-04-2012, 07:25
Jesus on ice skates... I want one
Colorado Osprey
11-04-2012, 07:47
Does anybody make a 10mm levergun, like Marlin, Winchester or Henry? Or do those require rimmed cartridges? I likes my .44mag Winnie.
A gun could be converted (re-built), but I'm not aware of any lever carbines in 10mm or anyone doing a conversion. The mag feed trips off the case rim as well as the case head spacing off the case rim. There would be a bit involved to convert it... like a lot.
Does anybody make a 10mm levergun, like Marlin, Winchester or Henry? Or do those require rimmed cartridges? I likes my .44mag Winnie.
Find a 41 magnum lever gun and tell people its a "10mm rimmed". [Coffee]
A gun could be converted (re-built), but I'm not aware of any lever carbines in 10mm or anyone doing a conversion. The mag feed trips off the case rim as well as the case head spacing off the case rim. There would be a bit involved to convert it... like a lot.I'd love to have a Keltec Sub2000 10mm, but don't think this one could be done from a converted .40 or 9mm, as the magwell and mags used are too small. A .45 one could be converted, but to the best of my knowledge they don't make one. Perhaps a Ruger camp carbine in .45 could be converted. Hmmmmmm.......
Portsider86
11-08-2012, 13:42
What about Feather USA? They make dedicated 10 mm carbines: http://www.guns-rifles-firearms.com/index.html
Check out Thureon Defense. I tested a few of their carbines in 9mm and .45 ACP. They claims to have them in .357 SIG and 10mm now as well. I have not shot those calibers, but I was impressed with the ones I did shoot. MUCH higher quality than the JR carbines.
LoneWolf is supposed to have the .357 SIG version out by the end of the month, but AFAIK, they do not have plans for a 10mm.
I just got a note back from Keith @ Thureon. YES, the 10mm is available and he will be out here around Christmas. Let's have a 10mm party!
I just got a note back from Keith @ Thureon. YES, the 10mm is available and he will be out here around Christmas. Let's have a 10mm party!
That's AWESOME. [Awesom] Definitely something to look into!
SideShow Bob
11-08-2012, 21:39
I just got a note back from Keith @ Thureon. YES, the 10mm is available and he will be out here around Christmas. Let's have a 10mm party!
Are these of the blow back or DI design ?
Just talked to Keith from Thureon. He can meet at the range on Monday morning to mid-day. Heading back out on the 26th, so Monday is about the only choice. If you want to show up and try out the 10mm Thureon, let me know.
So is everyone woosing out on shooting the 10mm Thureon???
SigShooter
01-10-2013, 15:55
I know about a few 10mm carbines currently being made.
While I don't think Vectors is still making HK's in 10mm, I believe Olympic Arms is making a 10mm AR with their own mag. I WISH (hint hint) that lone wolf would make an upper & lower set that would allow glock 20 (10mm) and glock 21 (.45 acp) in an AR platform.
Mech Tech makes an upper that goes on either a pistol lower, withversions for either glock or 1911. I think they are offered in all calibers that glock offers. http://www.mechtechsys.com/
Feather USA offers a cool takedown gun that takes glock mags in a nice selection of loads. 10mm included... http://www.guns-rifles-firearms.com/
I hadn't seen the Thureon Defense version before... nice. Very nice...
Troublco
01-16-2013, 18:34
A buddy of mine used to have a MechTech upper in .45 ACP, and it was a lot of fun and pretty accurate. Only thing about it was the recoil spring gave a "twang" every time you shot it.
After checking out the Thureon Defense website, I'm drooling over the 9mm carbine. Very nice. A matched set, sequential serial numbered 9mm and 10mm would be awesome...
Thureon...
Keith was here, and you all could have shot it for free...they are very nice.
He might be back in Feburary.
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