Senator Feinstein's Proposed 2013 Legislation

[SirSai]

I don't believe I saw a post on this yet so here it is. As if you guys don't have more stuff to grind your gears.

http://www.feinstein.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/assault-weapons

I think it's all a bunch of hoopla![bulls]

[BPTactical]

But I thought Ol Joe was heading up this project......

I see the cost of implementing this plan being an obstacle.

Here is the gist of it:
Summary of 2013 legislation


Following is a summary of the 2013 legislation:


Bans the sale, transfer, importation, or manufacturing of:

120 specifically-named firearms
Certain other semiautomatic rifles, handguns, shotguns that can accept a detachable magazine and have one military characteristic
Semiautomatic rifles and handguns with a fixed magazine that can accept more than 10 rounds


Strengthens the 1994 Assault Weapons Ban and various state bans by:

Moving from a 2-characteristic test to a 1-characteristic test
Eliminating the easy-to-remove bayonet mounts and flash suppressors from the characteristics test
Banning firearms with “thumbhole stocks” and “bullet buttons” to address attempts to “work around” prior bans


Bans large-capacity ammunition feeding devices capable of accepting more than 10 rounds.
Protects legitimate hunters and the rights of existing gun owners by:

Grandfathering weapons legally possessed on the date of enactment
Exempting over 900 specifically-named weapons used for hunting or sporting purposes and
Exempting antique, manually-operated, and permanently disabled weapons


Requires that grandfathered weapons be registered under the National Firearms Act, to include:

Background check of owner and any transferee;
Type and serial number of the firearm;
Positive identification, including photograph and fingerprint;
Certification from local law enforcement of identity and that possession would not violate State or local law; and
Dedicated funding for ATF to implement registration


Hey Dianne[fyou]

[eadgbe194]

we've got to keep making calls an writing letters, i'll be sending out another round of letters today.

[AR_ART]

Agreed. There are portions of this that are going to be too expensive to implement. They can't even address the current budget issues, I can't see them piling on more "social" plans that increase cost.


But I thought Ol Joe was heading up this project......

I see the cost of implementing this plan being an obstacle.

[Adam]

I don't see this going very far...

[R&S]

And I didn't think Barry would get a 2nd term either


I don't see this going very far...

[MAP]

I don't see this going very far...

She may not get everything, but she may get something.

I hope she gets nothing.

Mike

[JM Ver. 2.0]

But I thought Ol Joe was heading up this project......

I see the cost of implementing this plan being an obstacle.

Here is the gist of it:
Summary of 2013 legislation


Following is a summary of the 2013 legislation:


Bans the sale, transfer, importation, or manufacturing of:

120 specifically-named firearms
Certain other semiautomatic rifles, handguns, shotguns that can accept a detachable magazine and have one military characteristic
Semiautomatic rifles and handguns with a fixed magazine that can accept more than 10 rounds


Strengthens the 1994 Assault Weapons Ban and various state bans by:

Moving from a 2-characteristic test to a 1-characteristic test
Eliminating the easy-to-remove bayonet mounts and flash suppressors from the characteristics test
Banning firearms with “thumbhole stocks” and “bullet buttons” to address attempts to “work around” prior bans


Bans large-capacity ammunition feeding devices capable of accepting more than 10 rounds.
Protects legitimate hunters and the rights of existing gun owners by:

Grandfathering weapons legally possessed on the date of enactment
Exempting over 900 specifically-named weapons used for hunting or sporting purposes and
Exempting antique, manually-operated, and permanently disabled weapons


Requires that grandfathered weapons be registered under the National Firearms Act, to include:

Background check of owner and any transferee;
Type and serial number of the firearm;
Positive identification, including photograph and fingerprint;
Certification from local law enforcement of identity and that possession would not violate State or local law; and
Dedicated funding for ATF to implement registration


Hey Dianne[fyou]

So uh... Does this also make them all SBR-able? Ya know, since they're all gonna be treated the same and stuff.

[JM Ver. 2.0]

She may not get everything, but she may get something.

I hope she gets nothing.

Mike

[Kick3]

[Kraven251]

It takes them 6 months to process anything now, this isn't even feasible, but it is a pretty interesting way to turn 1/3 of the country into felons. [fail]


Also pretty sure she doesn't comprehend what the registered part of the firearm is...especially in the case of the AR platform.

[rockhound]

This or something close to it will pass, hide and watch boys, hide and watch

[BPTactical]

If we hide and watch this or something very similar will pass.

Speak out, write.

[TS12000]

It takes them 6 months to process anything now, this isn't even feasible

That's what they want, to maximize frustration, cost, and red tape to the point some just say f it and abandon whatever platform the go after. Then next time they do the same to some other set of features. The endgame is they can say hey we didn't make owning guns illegal. Its like a poll tax. Make something inaccessible to the regular serfs through the barrier of entry of cost and you don't have to flat out say you're making it illegal.

[Sharpienads]

DiFi can go fuck herself.

[lowbeyond]

fuck that cunt. diaf bitch

[BigDee]

My guess is that they get this through minus the NFA piece.

They can win Republican support by agreeing to not raise taxes and slip this crap into the spending bill.

Otherwise, they get nowhere with this bill and come time for mid terms the Dems will start campaigning on the notion that Republicans allowed America to go over the fiscal cliff which caused another recession and Republicans allowed lunatics to continue purchasing assault weapons that are made for the purpose of killing massive amounts of people in a short span of time. There will likely be another mass shooting between now and mid term elections.

Some compromise may be our best option at this point. If we do not give up something now they will likely take far more away from us later when the democrats hold the house, The senate and the White House.

[10x]

So where is the list of the 120 named firearms?
This is much the same as they did in California.
I don't see anything about online ammo sales or no private sales of the non named guns.

[ANADRILL]

It takes them 6 months to process anything now, this isn't even feasible, but it is a pretty interesting way to turn 1/3 of the country into felons. [fail]


Also pretty sure she doesn't comprehend what the registered part of the firearm is...especially in the case of the AR platform.

Hence the reason they have created FEMA camps, and purchased mass amounts of ammo....

[BuffCyclist]

Well shiiiiiiiiiiiiiit...I shouldn't have just bought that Boyd's Rimfire Varmint Thumbhole stock for my Savage Mark II-FV. Ya know, because a rimfire bolt action rifle with a THUMBHOLE stock is meant to get around the laws to kill as many people as possible in a short amount of time. [facepalm]

I see this going the same way as the ERB (educational retirement board) down here in NM deals with increasing employee contribution rates. They make a huge fuss over increasing our contributions from 8% to 14%, then settle at 10%, which is really what they wanted all along and people feel like they won the battle by bringing down the contribution rate. She is doing the same thing with this law, add the NFA part and a bunch of other things to the bill so that all gun owners will feel a sense of accomplishment when it gets passed and only bans high capacity mags, ARs with evil features and one or two other things.

[Ronin13]

Seriously???? You think bending over and compromising is the answer? No insult intended but...Is your name Neville Chamberlin? You have a great chance of being a politician with that line of thinking.

The 2nd Amend has NOTHING to do with hunting and sports! The doss cunts in DC are trying to make it a hunting issue when in fact it's about freedom, rights, and the ability to defend yourself/your family. We need to stand our ground and encourage the Repubs in the House to fight for no changes! The want control of our lives...from cradle to the grave., They want our health, education, jobs, entertainment, rights, freedoms, and liberties. Our 1984 is upon us.

Fuck Feinstein, Obama, and Biden! May they all contract a nasty disease and die a slow, painful death. They have sold their souls to the devil and daily destroy our country piece by piece. Fucking evil to the core! End of rant.
Wow... I rate that an 8.9! Well done! Plenty of cursing, great imagery, and you threw the "eff you" blanket all over the top 3 asshats that are behind this... plus the historical reference and 1984 reference kept me on the edge of my seat! [Beer]
I concur- no compromise. Retreat, hell! We must continue to advance on our enemies, do not let them think they have any room to try to pull this crap.

[BigDee]

Seriously???? You think bending over and compromising is the answer? No insult intended but...Is your name Neville Chamberlin? You have a great chance of being a politician with that line of thinking.

The 2nd Amend has NOTHING to do with hunting and sports! The doss cunts in DC are trying to make it a hunting issue when in fact it's about freedom, rights, and the ability to defend yourself/your family. We need to stand our ground and encourage the Repubs in the House to fight for no changes! The want control of our lives...from cradle to the grave., They want our health, education, jobs, entertainment, rights, freedoms, and liberties. Our 1984 is upon us.

Fuck Feinstein, Obama, and Biden! May they all contract a nasty disease and die a slow, painful death. They have sold their souls to the devil and daily destroy our country piece by piece. Fucking evil to the core! End of rant.

If given the option to either a) give up one bedroom in my house or b) burn the entire house to the ground and be left with nothing I choose option a.

Let us not forget that a good majority of American people see those of us who are pro gun as a bunch of hillbilly lunatic preppers that need mental help. The agenda can be even further pushed if they start going to places like the Tanner gun show where the majority of the shoppers seem to make every effort to blatantly represent the stereotype the antis portray us as to the rest of the world.

While I'm not saying we have to compromise, I am saying that based on what the Feds bring to the table and the publics reaction to the proposal we may not have a choice in the matter if we wish to see the 2A stay in place.

If the antis can show to the public that they were willing to compromise on what most considered "sensible" legislation while the house was not willing to compromise and nothing was done while innocent people
continue to be murdered by dangerous weapons we will likely see ourselves looking at legislation 2 years from now that will limit us to private ownership of muzzle loaders and 1 round capacity bolt action rifles.

Obviously it is still to soon to tell what will come but more than likely there will need to be compromise from both sides of the table. As is, this fiscal cliff issue is looking more negatively on the GOP lead house than any other fact of the government because the house is basically holding up everyone else in order to stand their ground and prevent tax increases to the top 1%. If the house takes the same approach on gun control they will have likely created the perfect storm which will result in a far left leaning super majority in all aspects of the government. That radical super majority would push for a mandatory buy back like what we saw in Australia and would push for massive tax increases on any of us who earn a decent income while pushing their radical agenda. If there is no opposition from the conservatives (which there likely will not be as we continue down this path) they will be able to unanimously pass anything they choose.

[TFOGGER]

No compromise. It is a false compromise when they have nothing to give, we're just giving away our rights in an attempt to appease the left. As far as practicality goes, it now takes the ATF 6-7 months to process each of the few thousand tax stamp requests each year, so how long do you think it would take for them to process 7-10 MILLION? i'm in my mid 40s, and I'll be long dead of old age before they can make this happen. The way I see it Oblather can spend his political capital on gun control, or immigration reform. He doesn't have enough for both, and gun control will add very few new Democrats to the voting rolls. My bet is that they make a lot of noise about this, bills get introduced and passed in the Senate, only to die in the House. Oblowme doesn't ever see one cross his desk, so he's absolved of responsibility. On a State level, things look much bleaker. We need to be proactive in making sure our state senators and representatives, as well as the Governor know that there are political consequences for removing the rights of law abiding gun owners while doing nothing to address the circumstances that lead to things like the Aurora murders.

[Kraven251]

I can always build another house.

A few weeks ago I would have agreed with you, then I started reading, lots of reading. Not just here but both sides of the issue. Lost some friends over the issue, and realized there isn't middle ground. There can't be middle ground, not on this.

All of the issues they are bringing up and want to limit have nothing to do with law abiding citizens. These cosmetic items are cosmetic, and server minor functionality, but don't change anything other than the look of most firearms.

They will nickel and dime until there is nothing left, because we let it happen. Eventually you have nothing left to compromise on because you gave it all away yesterday.

[BigDee]

As far as practicality goes, it now takes the ATF 6-7 months to process each of the few thousand tax stamp requests each year, so how long do you think it would take for them to process 7-10 MILLION? .

Probably 10X that number considering the AW classification test will be changed from 2 characteristics to 1.

[Ronin13]

I can always build another house.

A few weeks ago I would have agreed with you, then I started reading, lots of reading. Not just here but both sides of the issue. Lost some friends over the issue, and realized there isn't middle ground. There can't be middle ground, not on this.

All of the issues they are bringing up and want to limit have nothing to do with law abiding citizens. These cosmetic items are cosmetic, and server minor functionality, but don't change anything other than the look of most firearms.

They will nickel and dime until there is nothing left, because we let it happen. Eventually you have nothing left to compromise on because you gave it all away yesterday.
You forgot to mention, more laws only hinders those who are willing to abide by those laws... Criminals couldn't care less what kind of laws they pass.

[T-Jet]

She's throwing the most restrictive and heavily regulated bill at the wall and hoping that something from it will stick. She's going for the moon then will compromise for anything after that.

Write your representatives guys - and I mean now!

[hatidua]

Some compromise may be our best option at this point.

Wow! -not a single bill has even been formally put forward and some on this site are already, preemptively, talking compromise. We are truly screwed!

[Sharpienads]

Wow! -not a single bill has even been formally put forward and some on this site are already, preemptively, talking compromise. We are truly screwed!

Scary, isn't it?

No "compromise"!

[battle_sight_zero]

Here is an article forwarded to me from Conservative Byte.com [Rant1]

Senate to go for Handguns

Posted on December 27, 2012 (http://conservativebyte.com/2012/12/senate-to-go-for-handguns/) by Conservative Byte (http://conservativebyte.com/author/jaytaylor/)
http://cdn.conservativebyte.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/untitled1.png (http://conservativebyte.com/2012/12/senate-to-go-for-handguns/untitled-363/)
Feinstein bill will require ‘grandfathered weapons be registered’; calls for owners to be fingerprinted.

Following is a summary of the 2013 legislation:


Bans the sale, transfer, importation, or manufacturing of:

120 specifically-named firearms
Certain other semiautomatic rifles, handguns, shotguns that can accept a detachable magazine and have one military characteristic
Semiautomatic rifles and handguns with a fixed magazine that can accept more than 10 rounds


Strengthens the 1994 Assault Weapons Ban and various state bans by:

Moving from a 2-characteristic test to a 1-characteristic test
Eliminating the easy-to-remove bayonet mounts and flash suppressors from the characteristics test
Banning firearms with “thumbhole stocks” and “bullet buttons” to address attempts to “work around” prior bans


Bans large-capacity ammunition feeding devices capable of accepting more than 10 rounds.
Protects legitimate hunters and the rights of existing gun owners by:

Grandfathering weapons legally possessed on the date of enactment
Exempting over 900 specifically-named weapons used for hunting or sporting purposes and
Exempting antique, manually-operated, and permanently disabled weapons


Requires that grandfathered weapons be registered under the National Firearms Act, to include:

Background check of owner and any transferee;
Type and serial number of the firearm;
Positive identification, including photograph and fingerprint;
Certification from local law enforcement of identity and that possession would not violate State or local law; and
Dedicated funding for ATF to implement registration


http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQ72UUi3tqA_4URBdJ470WFLT3fPUndI FrcKxrjqC6v9n8HGVvN5RmMgDjB


Read more: http://conservativebyte.com/2012/12/senate-to-go-for-handguns/#ixzz2GHEnScd3

[R&S]

Fecalstein is a [pileoshit]

[Fmedges]

"No one Is bound to obey an unconstitutional law and no courts are bound to enforce it."

"All citizens and legal residents of the United States, by their presence on the territory of the United States, are subject to the militia duty, the duty of the social compact that creates the society, which requires that each, alone and in concert with others, not only obey the Constitution and constitutional official acts, but help enforce them, if necessary, at the risk of one's life."

[R&S]

I know I'm not as smart as Fecalstein, but how would having James Holmes fingerprints have stopped what he did?


Here is an article forwarded to me from Conservative Byte.com [Rant1]

Senate to go for Handguns

Posted on December 27, 2012 (http://conservativebyte.com/2012/12/senate-to-go-for-handguns/) by Conservative Byte (http://conservativebyte.com/author/jaytaylor/)
http://cdn.conservativebyte.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/untitled1.png (http://conservativebyte.com/2012/12/senate-to-go-for-handguns/untitled-363/)
Feinstein bill will require ‘grandfathered weapons be registered’; calls for owners to be fingerprinted.

Following is a summary of the 2013 legislation:


Bans the sale, transfer, importation, or manufacturing of:

120 specifically-named firearms
Certain other semiautomatic rifles, handguns, shotguns that can accept a detachable magazine and have one military characteristic
Semiautomatic rifles and handguns with a fixed magazine that can accept more than 10 rounds


Strengthens the 1994 Assault Weapons Ban and various state bans by:

Moving from a 2-characteristic test to a 1-characteristic test
Eliminating the easy-to-remove bayonet mounts and flash suppressors from the characteristics test
Banning firearms with “thumbhole stocks” and “bullet buttons” to address attempts to “work around” prior bans


Bans large-capacity ammunition feeding devices capable of accepting more than 10 rounds.
Protects legitimate hunters and the rights of existing gun owners by:

Grandfathering weapons legally possessed on the date of enactment
Exempting over 900 specifically-named weapons used for hunting or sporting purposes and
Exempting antique, manually-operated, and permanently disabled weapons


Requires that grandfathered weapons be registered under the National Firearms Act, to include:

Background check of owner and any transferee;
Type and serial number of the firearm;
Positive identification, including photograph and fingerprint;
Certification from local law enforcement of identity and that possession would not violate State or local law; and
Dedicated funding for ATF to implement registration


http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQ72UUi3tqA_4URBdJ470WFLT3fPUndI FrcKxrjqC6v9n8HGVvN5RmMgDjB


Read more: http://conservativebyte.com/2012/12/senate-to-go-for-handguns/#ixzz2GHEnScd3

[colorider]

Obummer and feinfuck make me want to puke. Fucking errogant pissheads.

[Mick-Boy]

I don't think this bill would have a snowball's chance in hell but I'll be watching the NRA's response to this very closely when it gets introduced. I've got a life membership and if they start making noises that ANYTHING on that list is acceptable I'm going to be one unhappy member.

The only "compromise" available here is us giving and the other side taking. That should not be an option.

[Teufelhund]

"No one Is bound to obey an unconstitutional law and no courts are bound to enforce it."

"All citizens and legal residents of the United States, by their presence on the territory of the United States, are subject to the militia duty, the duty of the social compact that creates the society, which requires that each, alone and in concert with others, not only obey the Constitution and constitutional official acts, but help enforce them, if necessary, at the risk of one's life."

+1000. It is far past time we drew a line in the sand. We do not have to lay down and take any of this. You do not need the permission of Congress to exercise any of your Rights. No compromise, no conditions.

The only compromise I might be willing to make is to allow each legislator in support of this or any similarly unconstitutional bill to resign and leave the country without putting them on trial. Go now, and may posterity forget you were our countrymen.

[Kraven251]

Speaking of unhappy members...

Her marriage scorecard. It would appear Jack Berman was the least dumb of the three.
Richard C. Blum (https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&client=firefox-a&hs=BhJ&tbo=d&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&q=richard+c.+blum&stick=H4sIAAAAAAAAAGOovnz8BQMDAy8HsxKnfq6-gWF6YVX61JzYkidvp4f9YIwufVRyz2Kj9G5dANRB85wqAAAA&sa=X&ei=spXcUO_DAYTjqgGd7YCoBQ&ved=0CMQBEJsTKAA) (m. 1980), Bertram Feinstein (https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&client=firefox-a&hs=BhJ&tbo=d&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&q=bertram+feinstein&stick=H4sIAAAAAAAAAGOovnz8BQMDAx8HsxKXfq6-QZZZVqGFyU4HHzVvvYBdESUexf9feglPEHqnCwCyPHL_KwAAAA&sa=X&ei=spXcUO_DAYTjqgGd7YCoBQ&ved=0CMUBEJsTKAE) (m. 1962–1978), Jack Berman (https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&client=firefox-a&hs=BhJ&tbo=d&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&q=jack+berman&stick=H4sIAAAAAAAAAGOovnz8BQMDAx8HsxKXfq6-QZZZhkF2ucrph56JcRdWJ7brvXq-yupphs6DOACiQ7DVKwAAAA&sa=X&ei=spXcUO_DAYTjqgGd7YCoBQ&ved=0CMYBEJsTKAI) (m. 1956–1960)

[Skully]

These "politicians" have been itching for 8 years to do "something" they are going for broke and hoping they get the minimal of what they want, kind of like a sleezy car salesmen, going to try to convince us we won something while pick pocketing our shit out from under us.

No more armchair / keyboard strategy talking we ALL need to write write call and call.

[brokenscout]

Exactly before we are all criminals
These "politicians" have been itching for 8 years to do "something" they are going for broke and hoping they get the minimal of what they want, kind of like a sleezy car salesmen, going to try to convince us we won something while pick pocketing our shit out from under us.

No more armchair / keyboard strategy talking we ALL need to write write call and call.

[Ronin13]

Dear God, I don't usually wish ill will upon your children, but I would sing your praises until the end of my days if you would just give Diane Feinstein a fatal case of some kind of flesh eating bacterium. Amen.

[TS12000]

I really hope I'm wrong but I smell the back stabbing coming already. The people that give up this arm or that arm, hey its not as important to me as my shotgun or bolt what's the big deal? Then they come for those too. If you don't back the support for resisting this now you deserve the same in the future.

[Special Ed]

Obummer and feinfuck make me want to puke. Fucking errogant pissheads.

Holding back your true feelings is unhealthy :D

[wreave]

Can anyone find:
-the list of named exceptions
-the list of evil features

[Kraven251]

I was pretty sure evil feature number one was any firearm owned by a private citizen.

[Fmedges]

Can anyone find:
-the list of named exceptions
-the list of evil features

you have to pass it to see what's in it.

[Special Ed]

you have to pass it to see what's in it.

Exactly like [pileoshit]

[SuperiorDG]

Given that we have somewhere in the neighborhood of 310,000,000 guns in the US and there were 8,583 gun murders in 2011 that make it .00276871% of the guns out there were used in a murder. That is assuming one gun was used for ever murder. I would bet a far larger percentage of those guns where used to stop crime. I've heard that over 2,000,000 crimes were stopped by guns. So tell me how this legislation is going to help stop crime. If we are looking to create the greatest good in our lives this is not it.

[Dave_L]

Given that we have somewhere in the neighborhood of 310,000,000 guns in the US and there were 8,583 gun murders in 2011 that make it .00276871% of the guns out there were used in a murder. That is assuming one gun was used for ever murder. I would bet a far larger percentage of those guns where used to stop crime. I've heard that over 2,000,000 crimes were stopped by guns. So tell me how this legislation is going to help stop crime. If we are looking to create the greatest good in our lives this is not it.

/me puts on his dem hat "But how many crimes were stopped by an AR-15?! I bet most of those were done via handguns and we aren't taking those away from you." [blah-blah]

It's amazing that it's ok to pick and choose which rights to take away. Just wait until the politicians come for something all those gun-haters love...

[BPTactical]

Good luck Dianne, Heller REALLY muddies your wishes:

In regard to argument that only those arms in existence in 18th century are protected by Second Amendment, U.S. Supreme Court does not interpret constitutional rights that way; just as First Amendment protects modern forms of communications and Fourth Amendment applies to modern forms of search, Second Amendment extends, prima facie, to all instruments that constitute bearable arms, even those that were not in existence at time of founding. District of Columbia v Heller (2008, US) 128 S Ct 2783, 171 L Ed 2d 637, 21 FLW Fed S 497.

[Jefe's AR]

"No one Is bound to obey an unconstitutional law and no courts are bound to enforce it."

"All citizens and legal residents of the United States, by their presence on the territory of the United States, are subject to the militia duty, the duty of the social compact that creates the society, which requires that each, alone and in concert with others, not only obey the Constitution and constitutional official acts, but help enforce them, if necessary, at the risk of one's life."

This.

[battle_sight_zero]

Someone in our history already said it best. The first line is why I own arms.........

The Right to Bear Arms

In a nation governed by the people themselves, the possession of arms to defend their nation against usurpers within and without was deemed absolutely necessary. This right was protected by the 2nd Amendment.

"The constitutions of most of our States assert that all power is inherent in the people; that... it is their right and duty to be at all times armed."
--Thomas Jefferson to John Cartwright, 1824.

"One loves to possess arms, though they hope never to have occasion for them."
--Thomas Jefferson to George Washington, 1796. ME 9:341

"A strong body makes the mind strong. As to the species of exercises, I advise the gun. While this gives a moderate exercise to the Body, it gives boldness, enterprise, and independence to the mind . . . Let your gun therefore be the constant companion of your walks."
--Thomas Jefferson, Letter to his nephew Peter Carr, August 19, 1785.


"No freeman shall be debarred the use of arms (within his own lands or tenements)."
--Thomas Jefferson: Draft Virginia Constitution with (his note added), 1776. Papers, 1:353
"Laws that forbid the carrying of arms . . . disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes . . . Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man."
--Thomas Jefferson, quoting Cesare Beccaria in On Crimes and Punishment (1764).

[james_bond_007]

Strengthens the 1994 Assault Weapons Ban and various state bans by:

Moving from a 2-characteristic test to a 1-characteristic test
Eliminating the easy-to-remove bayonet mounts and flash suppressors from the characteristics test
Banning firearms with “thumbhole stocks” and “bullet buttons” to address attempts to “work around” prior bans






Am I reading this correctly ?

"Bayonet Lugs will be OK ?"

[gemery]

"No one Is bound to obey an unconstitutional law and no courts are bound to enforce it."

"All citizens and legal residents of the United States, by their presence on the territory of the United States, are subject to the militia duty, the duty of the social compact that creates the society, which requires that each, alone and in concert with others, not only obey the Constitution and constitutional official acts, but help enforce them, if necessary, at the risk of one's life."


[word]

[colorider]

Like bayonets are used in a lot of crimes. Or flash hiders are really a problem. Or the ability to release the magazine using a button or implement to push the button is a big freakin deal. This bitch makes my blood boil.

[omegalopez]

It's okay for her but not us HAAaaaaa. [Rant1]


http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/12/19/Sen-Feinstein-in-1995-I-know-the-urge-to-arm-yourself-because-that-s-what-I-did?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+BreitbartFeed+%28Breitbart+Fe ed%29

[Great-Kazoo]

Good luck Dianne, Heller REALLY muddies your wishes:

Until mid year when one of the Justices announces their retirement.

[Kraven251]

Until mid year when one of the Justices announces their retirement.

I'll be fairly happy if we make it to mid year before the country is fubar, and that isn't even considering any firearm legislation.

[buffalobo]

This legislation has one purpose, registration for future confiscation. There is no other reason for registration. Whatever gets passed is just another step on the path. The 94 AWB was a setup for this legislation and any legislation passed in the near future will be set up for next step on the path.

Incrementalism at its finest.

There is only one goal, complete disarmament. Any compromise is a win for the anti's. That is why incrementalism is successful. They have all the time in the world. We only have our diligence.

[BuffCyclist]

"I know the sense of helplessness that people feel. I know the urge to arm yourself because that's what I did. I was trained in firearms. I walked to the hospital when my husband was sick. I carried a concealed weapon and I made the determination if somebody was going to try and take me out, I was going to take them with me."

Really? She implied she was going to kill someone who tried to attack her? I think all CCW holders now would say they only shoot to stop the threat, not flat out kill the person.