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SuperiorDG
01-04-2013, 15:52
Just watched this interview. Some though provoking ideas. Does the Supreme Court only pretend to follow the Constitution in their rulings? And many more.

http://video.foxnews.com/v/2073272734001/

Irving
01-04-2013, 23:07
I caught the end of an interview with him about this on NPR yesterday. I'm glad I didn't call in, because it turns out that I actually agree with what he is saying. Just in a slightly different way.

The Constitution does not grant any right, it merely highlights rights. It states right in the preamble that the Constitution is not a comprehensive list of rights, and is only highlighting important ones. If 99% of America decided to abolish the Constitution tomorrow, my rights, and my willingness to defend them, would not change one bit. The Constitution only serves as a focus to the issue of rights.

There is a much larger conversation about establishing documents in order to enable lawful actions like court cases, and to get public opinion at least in the same arena of thought, but I'm not sure this is the thread to discuss that part.

Kraven251
01-04-2013, 23:55
Unfortunately, the Constitution is the only thing keeping us from being forced to defend our rights with high speed lead.

sniper7
01-05-2013, 00:41
Unfortunately, the Constitution is the only thing keeping us from being forced to defend our rights with high speed lead.

that made me laugh. most of them don't give a shit about the constitution

NMB2
01-05-2013, 01:31
that made me laugh. most of them don't give a shit about the constitution

No, but people like us do, and they fear us.

GilpinGuy
01-05-2013, 01:41
The Constitution does not grant any right, it merely highlights rights. It states right in the preamble that the Constitution is not a comprehensive list of rights, and is only highlighting important ones. If 99% of America decided to abolish the Constitution tomorrow, my rights, and my willingness to defend them, would not change one bit. The Constitution only serves as a focus to the issue of rights.

There is a much larger conversation about establishing documents in order to enable lawful actions like court cases, and to get public opinion at least in the same arena of thought, but I'm not sure this is the thread to discuss that part.

You and I butted heads about this months ago, but I've come around a bit. Does the BOR/Const grant you the right to breath in writing? Of course not, but you have that right.

Of course the absence of a denial of a right does not grant it either. This is where stuff gets real sticky. Gay marriage, abortion, "high capacity" mags, etc. Tough issues for sure.

GlockDog47
01-05-2013, 08:13
No, but people like us do, and they fear us.

[panic][M2][panic]....good

Gman
01-05-2013, 13:14
The Constitution defines the responsibilities and limits of the federal government. It doesn't limit the people who empower the government to even exist.

...then there's what we have now, which is an abomination of what the founders envisioned.