The State of Wyoming telling the Feds NO on Gun Control? [Archive] - Colorado AR-15 Shooters Club Discussion Forums

Adawg38

01-10-2013, 08:29

http://legisweb.state.wy.us/2013/Introduced/HB0104.pdf

I don't actually know how much fact is here but it looks like the State of Wyoming is telling the Feds that they will NOT enforce any new gun laws that are made. Good for them and I wish CO had balls like this and I hope other States follow.

Kraven251

01-10-2013, 08:32

Sounds similar to South Carolina, Outstanding!

strm_trpr

01-10-2013, 08:32

yep state nullification!!!

blacklabel

01-10-2013, 08:39

Reminds me of Montana's Firearms Freedom Act.

Dave

01-10-2013, 08:43

Interesting. If I read section (b) right, it says the state would prosecute a federal agent with a felony for enforcing any new gun legislation, and section (c) says the state's Attorney General's office would be the defense attorney in federal court if a Wyoming citizen is charged with a crime under new federal gun laws. Too bad it's a hell of a daily drive from Cheyenne to Lakewood for work.

DD977GM2

01-10-2013, 08:46

Sure wish our State Reps had the balls to introduce this in our legislative session.

[Ban3]

TRnCO

01-10-2013, 08:55

too many Dems. with control in "our" state....

mosinnagant577

01-10-2013, 09:04

Finally someone is standing up, I agree I wish Colorado would do the same. The worst is when people say that "you don't need an assault rifle to kill a deer". I guess some politicians need to brush up on their knowledge of the meaning of the 2nd amendment

cofi

01-10-2013, 09:10

Reminds me of Montana's Firearms Freedom Act.

is that a real thing.....really cash and carry on class 3 stuff?

Mick-Boy

01-10-2013, 09:17

It hasn't been tested in court yet so (to the best of my knowledge) no one is selling cans over the counter.

BPTactical

01-10-2013, 09:29

The proposed legislation is just that, proposed.
It would still need senate and house approval in Wyoming.
I hope Wyoming is ready for the inflow if it is approved

HBARleatherneck

01-10-2013, 09:31

Sharpienads

01-10-2013, 10:07

Akyla

01-10-2013, 10:09

Makes me want to move back to Wyoming!

jreifsch80

01-10-2013, 10:15

If Wyoming does become a safe haven for gun owners then I will move there

blacklabel

01-10-2013, 10:18

We need to buy some land and build a CO-AR retreat.

Danimal

01-10-2013, 10:25

We need to buy some land and build a CO-AR retreat.

I have been thinking the same thing. If I would have won the power ball jackpot I was going to buy a big ass chunk of land, a missile defense system and tell the .gov to eat shit. You guys could have come there too.

Dave

01-10-2013, 10:29

I have been thinking the same thing. If I would have won the power ball jackpot I was going to buy a big ass chunk of land, a missile defense system and tell the .gov to eat shit. You guys could have come there too.
So maybe we need to do a CO AR-15 lottery pool like offices do when the jackpots get huge. If we win we can buy a big chunk of land in WY, setup houses and firing ranges and put enough into tax free municipal bond funds to provide some supplemental income.

fly boy

01-10-2013, 10:31

We need to buy some land and build a CO-AR retreat.

let me know how much you're willing to spend... I have already been looking at land the past year now. Small 40+ acres is around $45,000. Larger, about an hour North of Cheyenne 100 acre for $110,000. They are just open land.

Teufelhund

01-10-2013, 10:37

I've been hounding the spousal unit to move into the country somewhere for a while now, and I'm starting to wear her down. She took over my PC and started looking at property in WY last night.

I'm not a fan of the style of house that seems popular there though; I felt like I was looking at real-estate ads from the '60s. Probably just buy a lot and build something.

blacklabel

01-10-2013, 10:48

let me know how much you're willing to spend... I have already been looking at land the past year now. Small 40+ acres is around $45,000. Larger, about an hour North of Cheyenne 100 acre for $110,000. They are just open land.

I've looked at land outside of Wheatland quite a bit. It's not quite in the cards yet but we'll get up there soon. I just need to find some land that isn't flat plains for that kind of money/acreage.

Kraven251

01-10-2013, 10:48

wyzardd

01-10-2013, 10:49

I hope my father's side of the family still likes me. They're spread out between Casper and Worland so maybe I can stay with someone while trying to find a job and house up there

fly boy

01-10-2013, 10:52

Depending on how far people want to drive.... Look over near Encampment. There is decent Elk hunting that way.

Ronin13

01-10-2013, 11:03

So maybe we need to do a CO AR-15 lottery pool like offices do when the jackpots get huge. If we win we can buy a big chunk of land in WY, setup houses and firing ranges and put enough into tax free municipal bond funds to provide some supplemental income.
I don't know if I want to live that close to some of you... [Coffee]

OneGuy67

01-10-2013, 15:11

My family is from Riverton and it is cold, windy and plain old crappy in the winter. Did I mention it was windy? You know why? Because Nebraska sucks and Idaho blows. Sorry. Greenie joke (if you get the "greenie" reference, you are truly a Wyomingian).

Dave

01-10-2013, 15:25

I don't know if I want to live that close to some of you... [Coffee]
If my wife has her way I'll soon be living near where you are now. She looks at properties in Evergreen and Conifer a few times a week. Kind of makes sense since I work in Lakewood and she works in Golden.

Adawg38

01-10-2013, 17:52

repost from yesterday.

http://www.ar-15.co/threads/81183-Anyone-Else-seen-this-I-lt-3-WY

if people could make accurate titles instead of cute dumbass titles, these would be easy to find.

(op your title works)

Yeah, didn't mean to repost but I did look and couldn't find anything on it and YES I agree better titles make things easier to find. [LOL]

Blockhead

01-10-2013, 19:51

Wyomingian

People REALLY from Wyoming know it's Wyomingite. Born and raised in Smoot, WY, pop 100 :D

USAFGopherMike

01-10-2013, 20:03

I work in Cheyenne and make the arduous drive to Pines Bluff at least 5 times a month. Yes, it sucks, everytime. If WY ratifies this and somebody no shit puts together a LLC with contracts for all investors, I will put $ towards it. If that's going to happen, lets find someplace that is shielded from the wind with trees. Additionally, we could look into machine & tooling so that we (the LLC) can become both a NFA certified dealer and FFL. When the rest of the country is taken over by the leftist, we'll be the last remaining business that supports the 2A.

Squeeze

01-10-2013, 20:15

too many Dems. with control in "our" state....

That's what happens when Colorado gets Californicated. Too many damn liberals infiltrating a beautiful state.

TriggerHappy

01-10-2013, 20:16

Commute to DIA is going to be rough 4 days a week.

OneGuy67

01-10-2013, 20:54

People REALLY from Wyoming know it's Wyomingite. Born and raised in Smoot, WY, pop 100 :D

Ya have to say with a bit of a twang, a piece of barley stalk in your teeth and dip in your mouth. "Y-O-ming-un". Then you'd fit with all the other farmers my grandpa hung out with playing cards and throwing dollars with.[Tooth]

cfortune

01-10-2013, 21:23

You guys can crash at my parents house in Sheridan. They're cool. Will make us popcorn n stuff.

Ronin13

01-10-2013, 21:32

If my wife has her way I'll soon be living near where you are now. She looks at properties in Evergreen and Conifer a few times a week. Kind of makes sense since I work in Lakewood and she works in Golden.
If you find something... pretty expensive for houses up here, but if you do I know not many insurance companies are writing up here anymore (except the ones I sell for and one other company... [Coffee] Sorry, shameless plug).
How much is property up in WY? I'd be interested in something in or around Jackson's Hole, lots of land so I can set up a range and no neighbors close by to complain about the constant gunfire.

cfortune

01-10-2013, 21:41

If you find something... pretty expensive for houses up here, but if you do I know not many insurance companies are writing up here anymore (except the ones I sell for and one other company... [Coffee] Sorry, shameless plug).
How much is property up in WY? I'd be interested in something in or around Jackson's Hole, lots of land so I can set up a range and no neighbors close by to complain about the constant gunfire.

A few years back a friend of mind offered to sell me like 30 acres outside of Sheridan (towards the Decker coal mines) for 5 grand. He inherited a bunch of land that is pretty nice. If I could find a job there, I would have been all over it.

Leaving his property
http://sphotos-d.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/272325_10150240382212547_3359305_o.jpg

Buddy of mine shooting my AK in his back "yard" (probably 1000+ yards on the other side of that river):
http://sphotos-g.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/279320_10150240378497547_7470264_o.jpg

Gotta love the locals though:
http://sphotos-d.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/277540_10150240397002547_8308061_o.jpg

TS12000

01-10-2013, 21:57

Bitch you gotta Ford the river to reset the targets though :rolleyes:

cfortune

01-10-2013, 22:01

Bitch you gotta Ford the river to reset the targets though :rolleyes:

lol yeah that part sucks.

hollohas

01-10-2013, 22:08

A few years back a friend of mind offered to sell me like 30 acres outside of Sheridan (towards the Decker coal mines) for 5 grand. He inherited a bunch of land that is pretty nice. If I could find a job there, I would have been all over it.

Shit, you should have bought that job or no job. For $5k you wouldn't even have to live there, just use it as you vacation spot. That looks beautiful.

TS12000

01-10-2013, 22:16

Also, this same bill is sitting in committee here in SC. Hope it doesn't die but who knows. Bad part is being that first guy/group, throw down a bunch of cash and get your door kicked down and yourself disappeared.

blacklabel

02-02-2013, 20:43

Wyoming House Votes YES on Firearms Protection Act, 46-13

Wyoming House Votes YES on Firearms Protection Act, 46-13 (http://blog.tenthamendmentcenter.com/2013/02/wyoming-house-votes-yes-on-firearms-protection-act-46-13/)

In response to current threats from the Federal Government on banning firearms, firearms accessories and ammunition, States are beginning to take action to hold the Federal Government to its constitutional limits under the 2nd Amendment. “A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.”

Wyoming Rep. Kendell Kroeker has sponsored and introduced HB0104. the Firearms Protection Act. Representatives Baker, Burkhart, Jaggi, Miller, Piiparinen, Reeder and Winters and Senators Dockstader and Hicks have co-sponsered this bill.

Today, HB104 passed the full state house by a vote off 46-13.

Wyoming’s Firearms Protection Act, is “an act relating to firearms; providing that any federal law which attempts to ban a semi-automatic firearm or to limit the size of a magazine of a firearm or other limitation on in this state shall be unenforceable in Wyoming; providing a penalty; and providing for an effective date.” This act nullifies all federal laws made after Jan. 1, 2013.

It's awesome to see such resounding support for the Act.

HBARleatherneck

02-02-2013, 21:02

and with Wyoming just opening up some large animal hunting to AR calibers, I think they sent the message. The message is ARs are for hunting as well and the FED can f off.

sniper7

02-02-2013, 21:03

I need to move to wyoming

HBARleatherneck

02-02-2013, 21:07

if our house closes this month like its supposed to, we are moving to Wyoming. We are looking at a little over 1000 acre place right now. We just need the money from the house to make the offer.

blacklabel

02-02-2013, 21:19

if our house closes this month like its supposed to, we are moving to Wyoming. We are looking at a little over 1000 acre place right now. We just need the money from the house to make the offer.

I hope it works out for you. I check job postings up there daily hoping that something opens up.

Citizen_Soldier

02-02-2013, 21:25

and with Wyoming just opening up some large animal hunting to AR calibers, I think they sent the message. The message is ARs are for hunting as well and the FED can f off.

When did this happen? Source? I'm assuming you mean 5.56/.223 by 'AR calibers', since things like .308, 6.8, 7.62x39, etc. have all been legal and you can get ARs chambered for those rounds.

HBARleatherneck

02-02-2013, 21:27

http://www.ar-15.co/threads/86271-you-can-use-an-AR-15-in-223-for-deer-antelope-mountain-lion-and-gray-wolf-in-WYOMING

just happened 5 days ago. check my link.

birddog

02-02-2013, 21:31

HBARleatherneck

02-02-2013, 21:33

niobrara county.

the least populated county in Wyoming. Wyoming is the least populated state in the Union.

My kind of place.

please please please let my house close. I worry about it falling through. I hope not.

I have 141 acres here. But, its too small and Colorado has turned in the last 20 years and not for the better.

birddog

02-02-2013, 21:39

Sure is nice there, you will see plenty of trucks heading to SD but probably not anymore than Weld County. I would sure like to get back to Wyo if I can find work in my line. Platte county sure is nice when the wind doesn't blow.

Ronin13

02-20-2013, 15:41

Resurrecting this to give an update on this bill:
It has passed the Senate Committee and is on it's way to the Senate for a full vote- it's expected to pass... I am really liking the idea of moving up there now!
http://blog.tenthamendmentcenter.com/2013/02/wyoming-gun-bill-clears-senate-committee-with-amendment/

Dave

02-20-2013, 15:50

SO how long until Wyoming begins complaining that they are becoming Colorado North?

birddog

02-20-2013, 16:26

The locals already call Coloradans "a bunch of greenies."

BPTactical

02-20-2013, 16:38

already been talking to a realtor up there.......

Ronin13

02-20-2013, 17:06

I'm looking at applying to UW in Laramie... So far I've read they're pretty Veteran friendly. [Beer] With that BAH included in my GI Bill I might not have to worry about getting that good of a job just yet! *nod to Jim*

Bailey Guns

02-20-2013, 22:26

For all you guys looking toward WY, be careful. Won't be long before you'll all be called cowards running from "the fight".

ray1970

02-20-2013, 22:30

I'm in Douglas, Wyoming right now. No way I could live up here. About the only places in Wyoming I would even consider are Casper or maybe Cody.

Ronin13

02-21-2013, 13:57

For all you guys looking toward WY, be careful. Won't be long before you'll all be called cowards running from "the fight".
So be it... I can't go to school unarmed in a city like Denver (applied to UCD and Metro- both Auraria campus). I anticipate that 1226 will pass, so I just figure I'll go to school where they have no problem with someone packing.

aheiser

02-22-2013, 11:39

Another CO native here planning on a move to WY... It's a shame to see where the state is heading. Certainly, while we're here, I'm fighting like crazy. But there's a time coming where we'll see some big "show downs" between the feds and certain states and I'd rather be part of a state that ends up being a stronghold for freedom. No state is perfect (more than enough politicians that prefer to control folks to go around...) but unfortunately, the mess in CO is a result of a lot of factors including a well organized and financed attempt to change the state by the left.

ghettoblaster

02-22-2013, 19:18

So be it... I can't go to school unarmed in a city like Denver (applied to UCD and Metro- both Auraria campus). I anticipate that 1226 will pass, so I just figure I'll go to school where they have no problem with someone packing.

The Auraria campus, eh? Get ready for constant email notifications about attacks, robberies, and rapes on campus. Used to be a daily event two years ago when I was attending. Always some report of people getting mugged or beaten on or near campus. Better learn some judo or carry a small knife or something....

bigun1962

02-22-2013, 19:26

Time to move to Wyoming. A bonus is no fart sucker laws either. AKA emmissions.

BuffCyclist

02-22-2013, 19:58

if people could make accurate titles instead of cute dumbass titles, these would be easy to find.

This applies to ALL posts made since December. [facepalm]

On a related note, New Mexico has a similar bill in the works right now, HB 114. I just found out about it two days ago while reading the Fiscal Impact Report for HB 77 (http://www.nmlegis.gov/lcs/_session.aspx?Chamber=H&LegType=B&LegNo=77&year=13) (modified to be only background checks at gun shows; originally was all sales require background checks) and HB 402 (http://www.nmlegis.gov/lcs/_session.aspx?Chamber=H&LegType=B&LegNo=402&year=13) (restrict assault weapons and mag capacities).

More info here on HB 114 (http://www.nmlegis.gov/lcs/_session.aspx?Chamber=H&LegType=B&LegNo=114&year=13)

Sad thing, is that HB114 was introduced on the same day that HB 77 was, and HB 77 has already made it through the House Consumer and Public Affairs Committee, and is currently sitting in the Senate Public Affairs Committee.

blacklabel

02-22-2013, 20:15

So be it... I can't go to school unarmed in a city like Denver (applied to UCD and Metro- both Auraria campus). I anticipate that 1226 will pass, so I just figure I'll go to school where they have no problem with someone packing.

I'm not a huge fan of Laramie but it does score 134 on the City-Data.com crime index. The US average is 307 and the higher the number, the more crime that has occurred. Denver scores a 370.