so does anyone else see an end to the panic??

[cofi]

obama's eo didnt have the teeth everyone thought does anyone else see and end to the panic once stock comes off backorder?

[SideShow Bob]

The mad rush for ARs and 30 rnd. Mags will go even crazier. He'll there will even be a demand for the Mossberg tactical lever action rifles.

Put the words "Tactical, "Hi Capacity" or "Assault" on any weapon and it will sell for 4X MSRP if you can one.

[brokenscout]

30 round mags will be the first to go.. I wonder if they will be grandfathered in

[Uberjager]

I bet it will be at least a year before the panic stops.

[zteknik]

That was pre panic.Just wait it's going to get a whole heck of a lot worse...

[generalmeow]

The fact is, anything you already own when they make a law forbidding it they can't take away from you. The constitution forbids retroactive laws (ex post facto). So if it was legal when you bought it, it will remain legal for you to own, no matter if it's banned or not. They can't just change the law and make you a criminal retroactively. And if they do, then they're officially tyrannical and you don't have to listen to them anyways.

I don't think they're going to ban AR's, but I wouldn't put it past them. I think there's a good chance they'll ban 30 round magazines, or "clips" as they call them. There is no reason for the panic buying to end now. I think this whole debate is just beginning.

[Kraven251]

30 round mags will be the first to go.. I wonder if they will be grandfathered in

if they aren't I suspect more than a few are going to be conveniently misplaced

[zteknik]

if they aren't I suspect more than a few are going to be conveniently misplaced
Reminds me of Sarco with look what we just found in the corner of the wharehouse.

[MarkCO]

And to think that a few years ago, we got bummed when there were just a few "more AR mags and oil" in our shooters bags.

[Zundfolge]

I bet it will be at least a year before the panic stops.

Nation wide if we don't have an AWB and/or mag ban by March it'll start dying down.

Here in Colorado its going to be real bad for another month or so and then I expect we won't be allowed to buy/sell anything "assault" style or full capacity magazines and we'll all have to go through FFLs so that will probably keep prices up permanently (but not as high as they are now).

So I guess I'm saying we have another month or two of panic.



...Mossberg tactical lever action rifles.
I kinda threw up in my mouth a little bit.

[hollohas]

The fact is, anything you already own when they make a law forbidding it they can't take away from you. The constitution forbids retroactive laws (ex post facto). So if it was legal when you bought it, it will remain legal for you to own, no matter if it's banned or not. They can't just change the law and make you a criminal retroactively. And if they do, then they're officially tyrannical and you don't have to listen to them anyways.


That hasn't stopped them from trying in the past. They just ask that you voluntary comply...and many people do. See Executive Order 6102 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Executive_Order_6102) and 6260 (http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Executive_Order_6260).

[mutt]

The fact is, anything you already own when they make a law forbidding it they can't take away from you. The constitution forbids retroactive laws (ex post facto). So if it was legal when you bought it, it will remain legal for you to own, no matter if it's banned or not. They can't just change the law and make you a criminal retroactively. And if they do, then they're officially tyrannical and you don't have to listen to them anyways.

I don't think they're going to ban AR's, but I wouldn't put it past them. I think there's a good chance they'll ban 30 round magazines, or "clips" as they call them. There is no reason for the panic buying to end now. I think this whole debate is just beginning.

Tell that to the people of NY who cannot keep their 'pre-ban' mags. Tell that to the people in NY City who had their arms confiscated in 1990's. I'm pretty sure some type of silliness also occurred in CA in the past. The govt can seize private property so long as they give 'just' compensation. Never assume anything will be grandfathered. Not arguing that such a thing should be unacceptable, just talking to the reality of things. We must always be vigilant.

[Ronin13]

Tell that to the people of NY who cannot keep their 'pre-ban' mags. Tell that to the people in NY City who had their arms confiscated in 1990's. I'm pretty sure some type of silliness also occurred in CA in the past. The govt can seize private property so long as they give 'just' compensation. Never assume anything will be grandfathered. Not arguing that such a thing should be unacceptable, just talking to the reality of things. We must always be vigilant.
HAHAHA! Just compensation... Like $200 for your $1600 rifle? [facepalm]

[mutt]

HAHAHA! Just compensation... Like $200 for your $1600 rifle? [facepalm]

You're being generous. I'd doubt you'd even get $200.

[Ronin13]

You're being generous. I'd doubt you'd even get $200.
Going off historical models put forth in CA, average $200 per turn in, max.

[MarkCO]

Actually, Obummers EOs are worse than I thought they would be. I see no end in sight based on what I am hearing from major suppliers and manufacturers. The gun industry is in top gear, but they are hesitant to invest in increased manufacturing capacity. Centerfire ammo shortages will last at least a year or more. AR components will relax a little in the next several months, magazines maybe 6 months. .22 ammo, maybe a year.