CBI Background Checks Clearing RAPIDLY

[NGCSUGrad09]

I don't know what's going on, but we've had a ton of background checks clear.

As of 1pm ish, the number is down to 7200 in line and the longest wait is just under 6 days now. Yesterday it was 7 plus days and around 9000 in line. There's been a drop of about 600 checks in the last hour or so alone.

Think it has something to do with getting the process sped up for Universal checks?

[blacklabel]

Definitely curious.

[Sawin]

Maybe some folks came back from vacation?

[Dingo]

Not so soon after. I imagine more people out there are in the same boat I am - inches from financial ruin and in debt to their eyeballs from binge-buying guns for three months straight. :-)

[Gman]

The hearings yesterday may have had someone lighting a fire under the ass of CBI.

[lowbeyond]

oh? the unofficial work slowdown is over ?

hmmm......

[drift_g35]

There arent anymore guns to buy.

[Danimal]

There arent anymore guns to buy.

That is what I am leaning towards

[Ronin13]

So anyone care to throw down a wager until it's back down to a couple hours instead of days? [Coffee]

[NGCSUGrad09]

Part of my theory is the fewer guns available, but we're still doing a solid amount of 4473s.

I'm just mighty curious if getting the background checks under control is going to be part of their push for the universal checks.

ETA: Down to 6868 as of 1:44pm.

[Ronin13]

Part of my theory is the fewer guns available, but we're still doing a solid amount of 4473s.

I'm just mighty curious if getting the background checks under control is going to be part of their push for the universal checks.

ETA: Down to 6868 as of 1:44pm.
I would have to say- it f***ing better get under control if they pass a universal checks bill... otherwise this state will be hell on earth, imagine the wait time going up to a month because of all the pending checks... I imagine CBI would be overloaded all the time.

[Dingo]

That is what I am leaning towards

Danimal.... I just saw your signature. "Omerta" by Lamb of God... nice. Big fan here.

[liberty19]

So anyone care to throw down a wager until it's back down to a couple hours instead of days? [Coffee]

I don't think we will ever see that short of wait again. This situation has allowed "them" to run an experiment to see how long people will put up with for a background check. I see it coming back down to 48 hours but not much shorter. Just my .02.

[merl]

I don't think we will ever see that short of wait again. This situation has allowed "them" to run an experiment to see how long people will put up with for a background check. I see it coming back down to 48 hours but not much shorter. Just my .02.

and we'll get to pay for the new & improved speedy check

[merl]

I would have to say- it f***ing better get under control if they pass a universal checks bill... otherwise this state will be hell on earth, imagine the wait time going up to a month because of all the pending checks... I imagine CBI would be overloaded all the time.

you are assuming that dealers will be willing to do $10 transfers. Most charge much more than that now.

[lowbeyond]

yep. what is the going rate now 20-30 ?

10 bux?! They will get right on it. Yea right. I dont blame them if all the FFL say FU. Im not doing it for 10 bucks.

[Ronin13]

you are assuming that dealers will be willing to do $10 transfers. Most charge much more than that now.
I've never seen $10... I've seen $25, 50, 100... Yep, this is gonna suck.

[DHCO]

I know of no dealers near to me that will do a transfer for $10. Plus that $10 will go to the CBI + whatever your dealer charges. Thus if they charge $10 and your dealer does $50 transfers, you'll have to pay $60 just to sell your gun to your neighbor.

[Sharpienads]

I know of no dealers near to me that will do a transfer for $10. Plus that $10 will go to the CBI + whatever your dealer charges. Thus if they charge $10 and your dealer does $50 transfers, you'll have to pay $60 just to sell your gun to your neighbor.

You mean your neighbor will have to pay $60 to buy a gun from you!

Seriously though, the whole idea of UBCs is stupid.

[MAP]

The CBI took a beating yesterday in the hearing. The attorney who helped write the law accused them of corrupt activities and cited the Federal law they were breaking. The Committee Chair wanted the head of CBI brought back into the hearing. He never showed.

Mike

[MAP]

I know of no dealers near to me that will do a transfer for $10. Plus that $10 will go to the CBI + whatever your dealer charges. Thus if they charge $10 and your dealer does $50 transfers, you'll have to pay $60 just to sell your gun to your neighbor.

This was debated yesterday in the hearing. The way the bill is written the FFLs can only charge $10.00. There is nothing in the bill that allows an FFL to refuse to do the transfer or charge more than $10.00. If a NICS fee/tax is imposed that would be above the $10.00 listed in the Bill.

[jhood001]

I'm just mighty curious if getting the background checks under control is going to be part of their push for the universal checks.


Totally. One of the biggest arguments against the checks last night was how long it takes and how unjust it is for people needing a gun immediately for whatever reason to have to wait weeks. Or at least that was one of the few arguments they showed any interest in. If they can reduce wait times to a more reasonable level, it will be one less argument in the way.

I wouldn't be surprised if CBI got a call last night that opened up overtime or something.

[lowbeyond]

This was debated yesterday in the hearing. The way the bill is written the FFLs can only charge $10.00. There is nothing in the bill that allows an FFL to refuse to do the transfer or charge more than $10.00. If a NICS fee/tax is imposed that would be above the $10.00 listed in the Bill.

I could have missed an amendment but there noting in the bill that requires them to do it. All it says is that you cannot transfer without getting a BG check. Hell you cant even loan your friend a gun unless you are at a State Approved venue.

18-12-112. Private firearms transfers - background check
5 required - penalty. (1) EXCEPT AS DESCRIBED IN SUBSECTION (6) OF THIS
6 SECTION, BEFORE ANY PERSON WHO IS NOT A LICENSED GUN DEALER, AS
7 DEFINED IN SECTION 12-26.1-106(6),C.R.S., TRANSFERS OR ATTEMPTS TO
8 TRANSFER POSSESSION OF A FIREARM, HE OR SHE SHALL:
9 (a) REQUIRE THAT A BACKGROUND CHECK, IN ACCORDANCE WITH
10 SECTION 24-33.5-424, C.R.S., BE CONDUCTED OF THE PROSPECTIVE
11 TRANSFEREE; AND
12 (b)OBTAIN APPROVAL OF A TRANSFER FROM THE BUREAU AFTER A
13 BACKGROUND CHECK HAS BEEN REQUESTED BY A LICENSED GUN DEALER,
14 IN ACCORDANCE WITH SECTION 24-33.5-424, C.R.S.
15 (2) (a) A PROSPECTIVE FIREARM TRANSFEROR WHO IS NOT A
16 LICENSED GUN DEALER SHALL ARRANGE FOR A LICENSED GUN DEALER TO
17 OBTAIN THE BACKGROUND CHECK REQUIRED BY THIS SECTION.
18 (b) A LICENSED GUN DEALER WHO OBTAINS A BACKGROUND CHECK
19 ON A PROSPECTIVE TRANSFEREE SHALL RECORD THE TRANSFER, AS
20 PROVIDED IN SECTION 12-26-102, C.R.S., AND RETAIN THE RECORDS, AS
21 PROVIDED IN SECTION 12-26-103,C.R.S., IN THE SAME MANNER AS WHEN
22 CONDUCTING A SALE, RENTAL, OR EXCHANGE AT RETAIL. THE LICENSED
23 GUN DEALER SHALL COMPLY WITH ALL STATE AND FEDERAL LAWS,
24 INCLUDING 18U.S.C. SEC. 922, AS IF HE OR SHE WERE TRANSFERRING THE
25 FIREARM FROM HIS OR HER INVENTORY TO THE PROSPECTIVE TRANSFEREE.
26 (c) A LICENSED GUN DEALER WHO OBTAINS A BACKGROUND CHECK

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FOR A PROSPECTIVE 1 FIREARM TRANSFEROR PURSUANT TO THIS SECTION
2 SHALL PROVIDE THE FIREARM TRANSFEROR A COPY OF THE RESULTS OF
3 THE BACKGROUND CHECK, INCLUDING THE BUREAU'S APPROVAL OR
4 DISAPPROVAL OF THE TRANSFER.
5 (d) A LICENSED GUN DEALER MAY CHARGE A FEE FOR SERVICES
6 RENDERED PURSUANT TO THIS SECTION, WHICH FEE SHALL NOT EXCEED
7 TEN DOLLARS.

[mtnrider]

This was debated yesterday in the hearing. The way the bill is written the FFLs can only charge $10.00. There is nothing in the bill that allows an FFL to refuse to do the transfer or charge more than $10.00. If a NICS fee/tax is imposed that would be above the $10.00 listed in the Bill.

I was thinking the $10 would be a fee to CBI and then they would charge there transfer fee on top of this. I can't see many FFL's agreeing to do $10 transfers. I think most would stick to new gun purchases only and avoid person to person transfers.

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[mtnrider]

3 THE BACKGROUND CHECK, INCLUDING THE BUREAU'S APPROVAL OR
4 DISAPPROVAL OF THE TRANSFER.
5 (d) A LICENSED GUN DEALER MAY CHARGE A FEE FOR SERVICES
6 RENDERED PURSUANT TO THIS SECTION, WHICH FEE SHALL NOT EXCEED
7 TEN DOLLARS.

So I read this as it is $10 to do the BGC but they can still charge you a fee for transfer on top of this.

Did they make any exceptions for CCW holders. I know Florida has something similer. If you have a CCW you don't have to do the BGC (for dealer purchases)

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[merl]

sorry we don't do transfers but you can sell the gun to the store and we'll sell the gun to your friend there at a $50 markup +sales tax.

[DeusExMachina]

The way it is written the FFL must, by law, perform a background check to transfer a gun between two private parties. Hell, as it is written, they must do it if someone knocks on their door at 2AM to wake them up to do it.

[Ronin13]

I was thinking the $10 would be a fee to CBI and then they would charge there transfer fee on top of this. I can't see many FFL's agreeing to do $10 transfers. I think most would stick to new gun purchases only and avoid person to person transfers.


sorry we don't do transfers but you can sell the gun to the store and we'll sell the gun to your friend there at a $50 markup +sales tax.
This is where things could get really bad- and I think that's the Dem's point- what happens when no FFL wants to do the transfers anymore? Then no guns get sold this and effectively the State has just created a micro-black market. Oh and of course this does absolutely nothing to curb violence, or crime.

So I read this as it is $10 to do the BGC but they can still charge you a fee for transfer on top of this.

Did they make any exceptions for CCW holders. I know Florida has something similer. If you have a CCW you don't have to do the BGC (for dealer purchases)
Yes, and no exceptions for CCW, that's come up 3x and every single time it's been shot down. Seriously, the democrats don't like us gun owners, so they can go f*** themselves.

[lowbeyond]

The way it is written the FFL must, by law, perform a background check to transfer a gun between two private parties. Hell, as it is written, they must do it if someone knocks on their door at 2AM to wake them up to do it.

Where does it say that? Maybe im missing something....All This says is that non-ffl shall/aka must get a BGC. Nothing requires a FFL to do so.

15 (2) (a) A PROSPECTIVE FIREARM TRANSFEROR WHO IS NOT A
16 LICENSED GUN DEALER SHALL ARRANGE FOR A LICENSED GUN DEALER TO
17 OBTAIN THE BACKGROUND CHECK REQUIRED BY THIS SECTION.

[DeusExMachina]

Where does it say that? Maybe im missing something....All This says is that non-ffl shall/aka must get a BGC. Nothing requires a FFL to do so.

15 (2) (a) A PROSPECTIVE FIREARM TRANSFEROR WHO IS NOT A
16 LICENSED GUN DEALER SHALL ARRANGE FOR A LICENSED GUN DEALER TO
17 OBTAIN THE BACKGROUND CHECK REQUIRED BY THIS SECTION.

It was discussed yesterday, brought up by numerous witnesses and Republican Reps and confirmed by the bill's sponsor and author: an FFL would be REQUIRED to perform the background check, by LAW.

[lowbeyond]

yes well that is what they say. but i cant find the text to support it.

*shrug* maybe they amended the bill and the txt is not up to date or i just missed it....

Can't really go by Fields as she had no idea what was going on during the amendment process in the 10 rnd mag bill. ie the Sponsor is a Class A idiot

[DeusExMachina]

yes well that is what they say. but i cant find the text to support it.

*shrug* maybe they amended the bill and the txt is not up to date or i just missed it....

Can't really go by Fields as she had no idea what was going on during the amendment process in the 10 rnd mag bill. ie the Sponsor is a Class A idiot

The problem is there is no text against it.

[lowbeyond]

well that is true. so here is what will happen then. FFL wont do it for 10 bux. I dont blame them.

Then the legislature will fix the issue they caused by explicitly requiring them to do so and as a sweatener they will increase the fee.

[newracer]

There is nothing in the current bill that forces an FFL to perfrom the background check. However when Gardner tried to amend the bill to state FFLs did not have to perform a check it was voted down.

[Jeff350]

Regardless of how the bill reads, I'm betting this will add about $100 to the cost of a transfer or private sale. We already have places charging $50-$100 for transfers during the panic. Their workload is only going to increase when we can't even sell privately to our friends.

Someone else mentioned it already, but FFL's will just start offering to sell your gun on consignment to your friend for a $50 fee. I seriously can't imagine that dealers will do transfers for $10.

[Skully]

I dont know I am at day 8 now I believe????

The last one a week ago was 7 days exact.

[Circuits]

down to 4 1/2 days, with 5600 in queue. CBI has been processing between 1000 and 2000 checks a day for the past two months, it was just that enough new checks (transfers, some new stock coming in, etc) were coming in to offset and increase the total backlog, while the past week or so it's been tapering off and clearing 400 or 500 more a day than come in.

[NGCSUGrad09]

down to 4 1/2 days, with 5600 in queue. CBI has been processing between 1000 and 2000 checks a day for the past two months, it was just that enough new checks (transfers, some new stock coming in, etc) were coming in to offset and increase the total backlog, while the past week or so it's been tapering off and clearing 400 or 500 more a day than come in.

But they've all of the sudden cleared over 3000 in one day?

[meatman]

From their facebook site:


CBI Implements Plan to Reduce Queue for Firearms Checks
The Colorado Bureau of Investigation (CBI) has implemented a plan to clear the existing queue by redirecting resources within the Bureau (excluding those who process employment/civil background checks) and extending InstaCheck’s operating hours beginning on Wednesday, February 13, 2013.

The effort to redirect CBI resources at this time is based on CBI’s evaluation of an existing window of opportunity to effectively clear the extended queue.

... While the average for requests for firearms background checks topped 1,100 per day in January 2013 (much higher compared to recent years), CBI had projected levels of 1,500 per day. This slight reduction will enable the current InstaCheck team—with assistance from other CBI staff—to clear the existing queue in an expedited manner.

CBI will closely monitor the progress of those working to clear the existing queue. It’s believed the queue can be cleared in a short period of time, barring additional surges in requests for background checks for firearms purchases.

“We’ve constantly been monitoring the volume of requests for background checks and believe a window of opportunity currently exists to implement a plan to make tremendous headway in reducing the existing queue for background checks for firearms purchases,” said Director Ron Sloan of CBI. “We believe redirecting staffing for a minimal period of time will not adversely affect the service delivery of other CBI work units.”

Snapshot of the Plan:
· Utilize the existing InstaCheck staff (21 people) to conduct background checks.

· Redirect staffing (16 people) from other CBI workgroups (not including those who conduct employment/civil background checks) to assist in the process.

· Extend InstaCheck hours of operation to 16 hours a day (6:00 a.m. – 11:00 p.m.)

· Any overtime utilized to augment staffing will be covered through vacancy/salary savings within the current budget.


Director Sloan stresses this is a short term solution to address the existing queue and meet the needs of licensed firearms dealers and their customers, while balancing the critical role in public safety the background checks provide.

CBI will continue to work within the legislative process to address future resource needs.

[lpgasman]

But they've all of the sudden cleared over 3000 in one day?

Ya what's up with that, They clear 3days of BG checks in one day? WTF?!

[USMC88-93]

EDIT: Someone else beat me to it but I'll leave this here.
From here
https://www.facebook.com/ColoradoBureauofInvestigation

CBI Implements Plan to Reduce Queue for Firearms Checks
The Colorado Bureau of Investigation (CBI) has implemented a plan to clear the existing queue by redirecting resources within the Bureau (excluding those who process employment/civil background checks) and extending InstaCheck’s operating hours beginning on Wednesday, February 13, 2013.

The effort to redirect CBI resources at this time is based on CBI’s evaluation of an existing window of opportunity to effectively clear the extended queue.

While the average for requests for firearms background checks topped 1,100 per day in January 2013 (much higher compared to recent years), CBI had projected levels of 1,500 per day. This slight reduction will enable the current InstaCheck team—with assistance from other CBI staff—to clear the existing queue in an expedited manner.

CBI will closely monitor the progress of those working to clear the existing queue. It’s believed the queue can be cleared in a short period of time, barring additional surges in requests for background checks for firearms purchases.

“We’ve constantly been monitoring the volume of requests for background checks and believe a window of opportunity currently exists to implement a plan to make tremendous headway in reducing the existing queue for background checks for firearms purchases,” said Director Ron Sloan of CBI. “We believe redirecting staffing for a minimal period of time will not adversely affect the service delivery of other CBI work units.”

Snapshot of the Plan:
· Utilize the existing InstaCheck staff (21 people) to conduct background checks.

· Redirect staffing (16 people) from other CBI workgroups (not including those who conduct employment/civil background checks) to assist in the process.

· Extend InstaCheck hours of operation to 16 hours a day (6:00 a.m. – 11:00 p.m.)

· Any overtime utilized to augment staffing will be covered through vacancy/salary savings within the current budget.


Director Sloan stresses this is a short term solution to address the existing queue and meet the needs of licensed firearms dealers and their customers, while balancing the critical role in public safety the background checks provide.

CBI will continue to work within the legislative process to address future resource needs.

[CareyH]

So the government saw a problem and fixed it...............these really are the end times! panic!!!!!!!!!! LOL.

[MAP]

So the government saw a problem and fixed it...............these really are the end times! panic!!!!!!!!!! LOL.

More like they were about to be publicly embarrassed for violating federal law and went into CYA mode.

Mike

[Brass]

I thought the reason that the NRA came to town a few days ago was to meet with the governor regarding the current waiting time. Does anyone know if this is true?

[R&S]

I hope it gets back to a 15 to 30 minute wait again soon

[mtnrider]

I hope it gets back to a 15 to 30 minute wait again soon

That would be nice. Unfortunately there is hardly a gun left in this state to buy [facepalm]

[R&S]

That would be nice. Unfortunately there is hardly a gun left in this state to buy [facepalm]

see my post under gunshows [pick-me]hope to see you there!

[mtnrider]

see my post under gunshows [pick-me]hope to see you there!


Let me revise my statement. "there are no decently priced guns left in Colorado" (sarcasm)
No offense but I won't step foot inside a gun show any time soon, I gave up on them a while ago (pre panic). Maybe I am expecting better deals at gun shows but to be honest I haven't bought anything at a show in years. Could always find better prices locally.

[BigDee]

So did they take the staff that should be processing CCW permits and move them to instacheck?

I'm concerned that the 90 day CCW wait is now going to be 120 days because all the staff is working on instacheck. I still don't understand why CO has to have their own system when almost every other state including states with the toughest gun control laws on the book use the NICS with no problems.

[clublights]

So did they take the staff that should be processing CCW permits and move them to instacheck?

I'm concerned that the 90 day CCW wait is now going to be 120 days because all the staff is working on instacheck. I still don't understand why CO has to have their own system when almost every other state including states with the toughest gun control laws on the book use the NICS with no problems.


That got brought up at the fee for Instacheck hearings today .... CBI has caught a bit over 1100 folks that the FBI check would have missed and let buy guns ( now how many of those were mistakes.. we will NEVER know)

[BigDee]

That got brought up at the fee for Instacheck hearings today .... CBI has caught a bit over 1100 folks that the FBI check would have missed and let buy guns ( now how many of those were mistakes.. we will NEVER know)

Or are petty BS. I was denied by the CBI a few years back because of an unpaid traffic ticket.

[clublights]

Or are petty BS. I was denied by the CBI a few years back because of an unpaid traffic ticket.

WEll Not to be THAT asshole... but you probably had a warrant.... so.... yeah ... they should have denied... just sayin .

[lpgasman]

Anyone know where BGC'S are today, or where i can see an updated number on line? CBI Facebook page not updated regularly.

[sneakerd]

Based on yesterday- I fully expect the backlog to be cleared up in just a couple of days. This will certainly result in long lines at the counter as people roll in to pick up their guns. Please be patient!

[Great-Kazoo]

Or are petty BS. I was denied by the CBI a few years back because of an unpaid traffic ticket.

GTFO you failed to pay a ticket and figured it would go unnoticed. Damn the CBI How dare they!

[DHCO]

https://twitter.com/CBI_Colorado

[NGCSUGrad09]

4078 as I type this, less than 4 days as the longest wait.

[DeusExMachina]

I didn't think it was possible that I'd be more pissed at CBI, but it happened. Fuck them. It will be back under the federally mandated 3 days just in time for the vote for more gun control.

[NGCSUGrad09]

I didn't think it was possible that I'd be more pissed at CBI, but it happened. Fuck them. It will be back under the federally mandated 3 days just in time for the vote for more gun control.

They are about to break into the 3 days. Current line is 3855 with longest wait at 3 days and 24 minutes.

[polski]

Mine just came through after 12 days...

[lowbeyond]

GTFO you failed to pay a ticket and figured it would go unnoticed. Damn the CBI How dare they!

Yea for sure not paying a traffic ticket should mean you are banned from buying a gun. Seems reasonable. Uh-huh

[funkymonkey1111]

Yea for sure not paying a traffic ticket should mean you are banned from buying a gun. Seems reasonable. Uh-huh

agree. seems pretty f'ing idiotic to even think this would justify not passing a background check.

[gonz13]

48hrs! Sportsmans just called said I'm good to pick up. Cbi fb page said as of yesterday they extended their hours again.

[clublights]

Yea for sure not paying a traffic ticket should mean you are banned from buying a gun. Seems reasonable. Uh-huh

If you don't pay a traffic ticket they issue a warrant for your arrest. It's not CBI's problem that it is "only" for a traffic ticket. It's still a WARRANT FOR ARREST.

When someone has a warrant for their arrest they get pulled over by a cop they go to jail. do some research. Cops have been killed in traffic stops by guys that had traffic warrants and nothing more and didn't want to go to jail .

Now I'm not saying that YOU or the original person that brought this up would shoot a cop. I'm just saying it is a reason to deny a purchase.
Besides I'm sure as soon as he took care of the warrant they dropped the denial.

[lowbeyond]

you seem fine with denying someone gun purchase becasue they failed to pay a ticket and have a warrant for their arrest. I am not. I think it is retarded that you should be denied a gun purchase becasue you didn't pay a fee to the state for a traffic violation. You can go on about warrant for arrest all you want, but the base reason is a traffic violation

Maybe, just maybe, stop issuing arrest warrants and sending people to jail becasue some bloke didn't hand over a hundred bucks or whatever to the state for a frikken traffic violation in a timely manner.

Nah. That's crazy talk I know.

[TRnCO]

Maybe, just maybe, stop issuing arrest warrants and sending people to jail becasue some bloke didn't hand over a hundred bucks or whatever to the state for a frikken traffic violation in a timely manner.
What, then, would you recommend then to get people to pay for the traffic tickets, if not the threat of jail time? I mean, if you get a ticket and there is no recourse from the state if you don't pay, why pay? Don't you think the state needs something in place that will prompt people to pay the fine? Seems the threat of jail would do that pretty well.

[clublights]

you seem fine with denying someone gun purchase becasue they failed to pay a ticket and have a warrant for their arrest. I am not. I think it is retarded that you should be denied a gun purchase becasue you didn't pay a fee to the state for a traffic violation. You can go on about warrant for arrest all you want, but the base reason is a traffic violation

Maybe, just maybe, stop issuing arrest warrants and sending people to jail becasue some bloke didn't hand over a hundred bucks or whatever to the state for a frikken traffic violation in a timely manner.

Nah. That's crazy talk I know.

I'm Ok with CBI denying for a warrant.. it's not their problem what the warrant is for . Would you be OK if the warrant was for murder? or rape ? or ( insert laundry list of offenses here) ?

We all sit here and scream about how we are responsible gun owners. well not taking care of your legal obligations is not being responsible.

Hey I've had a couple of warrants for traffic.... I've also gone to jail on them ( this was back when I was young and dumb and thought my car had two speeds.. stop and top .... I was a bit of a lead foot)

Get a ticket you have 3 options.... Pay it , Go to court to fight it ( win or lose) or ignore it and have a warrant for your arrest issued... they will catch you .. eventually . Arrest warrants for not showing up in court is the courts only recourse when you don't show up. this is how it works .. no matter the offense, It's " ALWAYS" been this way .

What would you suggest they do when you don't show up in court ?

[kidicarus13]

Just like we all learned in elementary school if your parent(s) didn't already teach you... follow the rules and you can participate with all the others. Think the rules don't apply to you and you can do it the hard way. If you didn't learn it then I guess you'll have to learn it now.

I personally don't know of any responsible people that don't pay their tickets and I like the idea that irresponsible people get held up by the background check.

[hatidua]

you seem fine with denying someone gun purchase becasue they failed to pay a ticket and have a warrant for their arrest. I am not.

What you are fine with, and what you are not fine with, have nothing to do with it. It's what the system dictates. You can argue with the state, jump up and down & stomp your feet, scream your lungs out, but the state, in the end, will win. EVERY TIME.

[thebolt]

you seem fine with denying someone gun purchase becasue they failed to pay a ticket and have a warrant for their arrest. I am not. I think it is retarded that you should be denied a gun purchase becasue you didn't pay a fee to the state for a traffic violation. You can go on about warrant for arrest all you want, but the base reason is a traffic violation

Maybe, just maybe, stop issuing arrest warrants and sending people to jail becasue some bloke didn't hand over a hundred bucks or whatever to the state for a frikken traffic violation in a timely manner.

Nah. That's crazy talk I know.

You should be embarassed by your actions and not blaming someone else for your problems. Man up and take some responsibility.

[R&S]

Longest Wait : 1 days 2:43 Applications Waiting : 1904
as of 1630 today

[R&S]

Damn why couldn't they do this 4 gun shows ago?

[clublights]

Damn why couldn't they do this 4 gun shows ago?

Cuz 4 gun shows ago they didn't have a shot at controlling their own budget...

[thebolt]

The state will compile the costs of the InstaCheck showing the funds recently spent including the staff and employee overtime.

[Romer]

My new Sig came into my FFL and I went down to fill out the paperwork and it was 1 day and 2 hours.

[Gman]

I guess it's OK that they were gaming gun owners with their fictitious "delays". Our rulers won't find any fault in what has become obvious that they were doing. The end justifies the means with these people.

[brutal]

Although not exceptionally surprised after hearing of the push to clear the backlog by adding/re-purposing staff and hours, I was not exactly expecting the call I got today for a BGC I filled out Saturday.

[brutal]

Or are petty BS. I was denied by the CBI a few years back because of an unpaid traffic ticket.

I thought I saw somewhere that 85% of the failed BGC were passed on do-overs.

I don't doubt they failed some that have no business possessing a firearm, but to think that some crazy neighbor or other such asshat could potentially go and get a temp restraining order against a good honest and lawful citizen and ruin your chance at passing the BGC bothers me.

Where's the due process in that?

[BigDee]

Hypocrites.

[BigDee]

I thought I saw somewhere that 85% of the failed BGC were passed on do-overs.

I don't doubt they failed some that have no business possessing a firearm, but to think that some crazy neighbor or other such asshat could potentially go and get a temp restraining order against a good honest and lawful citizen and ruin your chance at passing the BGC bothers me.

Where's the due process in that?

A co-worker is dealing with the restraining order and crazy neighbor issue now. He's over $7K deep in legal costs and every time they get the restraining order thrown out she files another one.

[Slapps74]

Anyone know what the wait time is down too?

[hghclsswhitetrsh]

Mine cleared this morning. Filled it out Saturday at 3 pm.

[hunterhawk]

Guy at a local gun shop said down to 3 days...

[kidicarus13]

Anyone know what the wait time is down too?


My new Sig came into my FFL and I went down to fill out the paperwork and it was 1 day and 2 hours.

[Circuits]

1300-something as of now, with longest wait listed at 30 - dunno if that's hours (probably) or minutes

[R&S]

Longest Wait : 49 Applications Waiting : 1381 as of 2232hrs

[Circuits]

backlog is almost completely gone. I submitted a check today at 10:30am, with 535 in queue, and it cleared by noon.

[Marine24]

I just did a transfer on a Garand receiver and bought a H&R Sportsman. When I went in to the queue, the wait was 9 min. Time was around 1130.

[Dave]

Had one go in about 4 yesterday, got called back at 10 saying it was done overnight.

[muddywings]

Friend did a bgc today and cleared after a few hours.

[newracer]

Convenient that the backlog is cleared just before the bill to require universal background checks is introduced in the house.

[Ronin13]

Convenient that the backlog is cleared just before the bill to require universal background checks is introduced in the house.
Clearing the table so they can set the main course... I'll bet it's going to make 8 days look GREAT! Just my prediction, I'm not a scientist, nor do I play one on TV, but I honestly think SHTF here after universal background checks passes in terms of wait times... just because you built a bigger dam doesn't mean it'll hold all the water from a flood back.

[Gman]

I don't think there will be such a big back-log related to personal sales. I doubt most people will actually do them.

[sneakerd]

We were clearing bgc in 5 minutes today after about noon. Truly a miracle!! Bastards.

[roberth]

We were clearing bgc in 5 minutes today after about noon. Truly a miracle!! Bastards.

They get the first whack at your paycheck but when it comes to serving John Q. Public, well...they'll do that in their own sweet time.

[Bandit4142]

A friend bought a 12ga Semi-auto today, BGC went thru in less than 5 minutes. :)

[lowbeyond]

this just reinforces that fact that they just decided to say FU to everyone for what, a month , 6 weeks, 8 weeks?

Congrats CBI True American heroes.

[BigDee]

this just reinforces that fact that they just decided to say FU to everyone for what, a month , 6 weeks, 8 weeks?

Congrats CBI True American heroes.

While agree with you I would not blame the CBI. The resources have been available to eliminate the problem all along however, it is our legislators, in particular the Governor who refused to allocate the necessary resources in order for the CBI to complete the backlog of background checks.

Hickenlooper has made it very clear time and time again that he does not give a shit about the rights of the people in this state. His only priority for this state is continuing to push his agenda to make this a sanctuary state for illegal immigrants and making gay civil unions legally recognized here.

[DeusExMachina]

While agree with you I would not blame the CBI. The resources have been available to eliminate the problem all along however, it is our legislators, in particular the Governor who refused to allocate the necessary resources in order for the CBI to complete the backlog of background checks.

Hickenlooper has made it very clear time and time again that he does not give a shit about the rights of the people in this state. His only priority for this state is continuing to push his agenda to make this a sanctuary state for illegal immigrants and making gay civil unions legally recognized here.

Nothing changed from Tuesday to Wednesday except the director of CBI being embarrassed publicly in the Capitol.

[lowbeyond]

Nothing changed from Tuesday to Wednesday except the director of CBI being embarrassed publicly in the Capitol.

Yep. This X eleventy-Billion

[OneGuy67]

While agree with you I would not blame the CBI. The resources have been available to eliminate the problem all along however, it is our legislators, in particular the Governor who refused to allocate the necessary resources in order for the CBI to complete the backlog of background checks.

Hickenlooper has made it very clear time and time again that he does not give a shit about the rights of the people in this state. His only priority for this state is continuing to push his agenda to make this a sanctuary state for illegal immigrants and making gay civil unions legally recognized here.
It was the JBC who denied additional funding to the CBI to get additional people in there, thus causing them to have to pull other people off their existing jobs to help clear the queue. Whether the JBC was following instructions from someone else, who knows.

[Byte Stryke]

Nothing changed from Tuesday to Wednesday except the director of CBI being embarrassed publicly in the Capitol.

I believe the conversation started with "I do not care what you have to do..."

[Madusa]

Too me it sounds like a lawsuit. CBI can't explain it or they will admit guilt/damages.

[Kraven251]

Oh I do blame CBI, the fed checks were going through just fine without any significant backlog while the local checks were flat failing to deliver.

[OneGuy67]

I was in Florida last week for work and I heard a news report that November through January federal background check s were down nationally with the decline coming from a few southern states. They didn't mention any states that had increases. I thought it very interesting reporting. I went intoi a gunshop in Florida and it was just like in Denver. Mags for $60 and rifles priced toohigh.

[Bailey Guns]

Just picked up a Stoeger Coach Gun at Colorado Gun Broker. Wait was ~ 15 mins.

[Ridge]

I was in Florida last week for work and I heard a news report that November through January federal background check s were down nationally with the decline coming from a few southern states. They didn't mention any states that had increases. I thought it very interesting reporting. I went intoi a gunshop in Florida and it was just like in Denver. Mags for $60 and rifles priced toohigh.

Checks were down in January from December, which was the highest number in history.

[drew890]

Just picked up a Stoeger Coach Gun at Colorado Gun Broker. Wait was ~ 15 mins.
What a coincidence. I just purchased a Stoeger Coach Gun at the Grand Junction Cabelas today. CBI took about 45 minutes. Some of that time may have been due to how busy the gun counter was though.

[OneGuy67]

Checks were down in January from December, which was the highest number in history.

At least according to this news story, they were down the last quarter of 2012, which just doesn't jive with what we have seen and are seeing in Colorado, which is why I thought it was a strange story. I can't find the relevant facts on the FBI's website, so I can't verify what the story said. It was on the news that AM talk radio plays every top of the hour.

[buckeye4rnr]

Any update on the wait time?

[hunterhawk]

Last I heard was 30-45

[merl]

so back to normal

[NBui4]

Had a check yesterday in the morning and took no more than 40 mins. Seems back to normal