Friends who are anti-gun

[Madeinhb]

I have some friends who are anti gun. We were talking last night about the bans. All I said was, if you need help, don't ask me or my guns for it. They asked me why I wouldn't help them if they needed me. I took a page from a post Tact posted and said, I've supported everything for you and your rights but you've done nothing for me. So my guns won't help you.

[birddog]

You need new friends. [ROFL3]

Im just kidding but I have actually been fairly surprised with who is pro gun. I don't like to argue so I don't say much but a lot of people who I pre-determined were anti's actually surprised me. All of my wife's friends love looking at my guns, maybe I need new friends too.


Of course this was back before I abided by the man and got rid of them, or was it a boat accident? Either way I got rid f them all.

[bogie]

I think I would have very little in common with anybody with an antigun stance. I'm curious, what do you have in common with these people?

[birddog]

I think I would have very little in common with anybody with an antigun stance. I'm curious, what do you have in common with these people?


Usually my wife!!!! If its not the wife it's work but I don't even bother. My work is full of idiots that won't listen, a lot like those who represent us. I like to ask really pointed questions to belittle them and make them feel stupid. It's so easy when they are media regergitating tards.

[motorep]

I think I would have very little in common with anybody with an antigun stance. I'm curious, what do you have in common with these people?

Ditto. Those who aren't with me are against me.

[bogie]

Usually my wife!!!! If its not the wife it's work but I don't even bother. My work is full of idiots that won't listen, a lot like those who represent us. I like to ask really pointed questions to belittle them and make them feel stupid. It's so easy when they are media regergitating tards.

I understand since I work with libtards too. Luckily my wife is pretty conservative. I attend the occasional happy hour with coworkers maybe, but I'm not friends with any of those people that are leftish.

I really thought about this, and I just can't think of a single person who I'd consider a friend at any point in my life that was antigun.

[StagLefty]

I've actually had a few conversations lately with some anti gun folks who I feel that I enlightened to some of the pro gun views that they weren't aware of due to the media.

[HBARleatherneck]

what does the Christian Bible say? be not unevenly yoked with the non believer. get rid of friends and aquaintances who are extreme lefties and anti gun. it will save you so much trouble later. Surround yourself with like minded people and you who are weaker minded wont be swayed to the dark side.


PS I am not a Christian, but I know the book well. Its a good example.

[Great-Kazoo]

Anti-gun & friend in the same sentence??[facepalm]

[AK47 Ranger]

I don't associate with non like minded individuals. My wife knows better than to even ask.

[palepainter]

Thr is always such a tough bridge to cross with people you have not known long or have no clue where they stand. I am always supprised with those who think like minded. 15 years ago, I wouldn't have given a shit, but I'm done trying to make an understanding, gain respect or trying to reform.

[ColoWyo]

Try being stuck in a cockpit for 5 hours with an anti-gun person. It's a hoot.

"but I can go to a gun show and get a gun with no background check due to the loophole "

Just a little taste from my last leg.

[birddog]

what does the Christian Bible say? be not unevenly yoked with the non believer. get rid of friends and aquaintances who are extreme lefties and anti gun. it will save you so much trouble later. Surround yourself with like minded people and you who are weaker minded wont be swayed to the dark side.


PS I am not a Christian, but I know the book well. Its a good example.

is that word for word? Just kidding., I love it. Most of those that are anti, are co-workers, not friends, I don't like most the people I work with. I
have been surprised with a lot of my wife's friends being pro gun and it has helped me get her (my wife) into a CCW course so that's a plus.

[Hoser]

Try being stuck in a cockpit for 5 hours with an anti-gun person. It's a hoot.

"but I can go to a gun show and get a gun with no background check due to the loophole "

Just a little taste from my last leg.

I feel your pain.

[cjmore]

My wife is from CA and never been around guns before me - Now she appreciates, understand and respects the need for them. It's education, enlightment and frankly a better understanding outside political agendas

[muddywings]

I'm not sure if this is going to embed so I'm going to throw it in here with fingers crossed. I thought it was good for the female crowd and from MSNBC of all places.

http://video.msnbc.msn.com/msnbc/50834292/#50834292

ETA: didn't embed but it was a good piece on women shooters and the follow up article is pretty good.

Ok-off to fold laundry (I'm a guy BTW)!

[Slapps74]

My neighbor is very anti gun and very over opinionated. He will push hi views on you but won't hear your side. We still help him out and I would still protect him if need be. I don't expect every one I know to be pro gun, BUT I do expect you to respect my choices.

[DSB OUTDOORS]

This is really FU*KED UP. First off I work with these people. They voted for O. Can't do much about that, don't care for them much anyway. But now, since New-Town. My Mom, who I love to death. Has become anti-gun. She doesn't understand why I don't visit much any more. My Dad is on my side. "Just don't bring it up". OK, she does!! [Bang] [NoEvil]And NOW!! I'm the [ahole]

[Madeinhb]

Well we get along with everything else. They just haven't ever been around guns or never fired them so they they just don't know the need.

[BPTactical]

Just another reason to not have "friends".

[muddywings]

Just another reason to not have "friends".

pretty much how i roll....

[Sharpienads]

Just another reason to not have "friends".

You mean excuse?

[Coffee]

[Katastrophic]

That's one of my main reasons for joining this forum. I've watched my husband on here for quite awhile now, and have even proofread countless posts of his. I like this community far more than the people I encounter everyday. I even get a bit of a kick out of the few a-holes. At least we have a common denominator. My dad, on the other hand, ugh ... I feel like we're only a few years from a breakthrough! We just need to keep chipping away at him with common sense, he'll come around, I just know it! My mom is coming along nicely, however. I'm taking her with me to my ccw class this weekend. Getting her certified and at least a bit more educated.

[birddog]

This is really FU*KED UP. First off I work with these people. They voted for O. Can't do much about that, don't care for them much anyway. But now, since New-Town. My Mom, who I love to death. Has become anti-gun. She doesn't understand why I don't visit much any more. My Dad is on my side. "Just don't bring it up". OK, she does!! [Bang] [NoEvil]And NOW!! I'm the [ahole]

I think you were an asshole before!!! Just kidding, I like you and hope the situation with your sister has resolved. Have fun.

[alxone]

i know a few anti gunners but i would never call them friends . if you dont like firearms and the related history (including military) then talking to me will not work out well for you .

[Dave]

Protecting anti gun neighbors reminds of the couple times I stupidly mentioned that I keep food, water, guns and ammo stocked just in case something happens. All I get are the "hey, we're coming to your place then." All I can think, and want to do is [goFyourself] You don't want me having them in the first place, you want to deny me my rights, why should I protect yours?

[Katastrophic]

When they come knocking, all you gotta say is "I'm sorry, I don't have a square to spare!" (Hehe, it reminded me too much of Elaine on Seinfeld)

[DSB OUTDOORS]

That's one of my main reasons for joining this forum. I've watched my husband on here for quite awhile now, and have even proofread countless posts of his. I like this community far more than the people I encounter everyday. I even get a bit of a kick out of the few a-holes. At least we have a common denominator. My dad, on the other hand, ugh ... I feel like we're only a few years from a breakthrough! We just need to keep chipping away at him with common sense, he'll come around, I just know it! My mom is coming along nicely, however. I'm taking her with me to my ccw class this weekend. Getting her certified and at least a bit more educated.
I hope you are referring to me pretty lady. [Coffee] My mom has been on a few of our family hunts, she can shoot with my guidance and my dad's. Just hit a soft spot with the BS lately.

[BPTactical]

You mean excuse?

[Coffee]

Not sure I follow 'nads.......

I typically have no time to socialize and when I do have time I prefer to spend it with my wife, kids and inlaws.
They are forever.
I have "aquantances" that I may see now and then casually but "Friends" are something that I left behind in high school.

[alxone]

i couldn't imagine living with anti gun neighbors .

[DSB OUTDOORS]

I think you were an asshole before!!! Just kidding, I like you and hope the situation with your MOM has resolved. Have fun.
Fixed for ya. And I thank you for the A-Hole com! It's as if you know me or some thing. [LOL] [Beer]

[alxone]

Not sure I follow 'nads.......

I typically have no time to socialize and when I do have time I prefer to spend it with my wife, kids and inlaws.
They are forever.
I have "aquantances" that I may see now and then casually but "Friends" are something that I left behind in high school.i couldn't agree more , although i do like some of my acquaintances more than others and will occasionally call or send a text to say hello . but for the most part im not a lets be friends kind of guy . we are ether cool or we are not

[alxone]

Fixed for ya. And I thank you for the A-Hole com! It's as if you know me or some thing. [LOL] [Beer]better to be an ass hole than a whole ass .....

[Katastrophic]

DSB - Ha, I had no idea you were posting that as I was typing up my post. I type slowly on my iPad and miss things sometimes. [Beer]Parents... Can't live with them, can't live without them. My dad hits a soft spot every weekend though... For the last 10 years. I think he likes it.

[jackthewall81]

Have already converted 3 friend from California and one from Illinois and they all now are CO residents and own guns. The rest of my friends are pro-gun or indifferent.

[DSB OUTDOORS]

better to be an ass hole than a whole ass .....
[LOL]This is why I love you Alex!! Miss ya man!


DSB - Ha, I had no idea you were posting that as I was typing up my post. I type slowly on my iPad and miss things sometimes. [Beer]Parents... Can't live with them, can't live without them. My dad hits a soft spot every weekend though... For the last 10 years. I think he likes it.
Ya parents can be a pain in the patuty for sure. My folks like to hold Sh*t over my head, more than I would care for. [Bang]

[buffalobo]

are not friends.

I have a few inlaws who have never been around guns and know nothing about them(they are being educated and a couple have become gun folk), but I do not have friends who are anti gun.

[birddog]

Fixed for ya. And I thank you for the A-Hole com! It's as if you know me or some thing. [LOL] [Beer]

Sorry, a few too many home-brews tonite.good for you!!!

[MrPrena]

Majority of my friends nor family members are not into shooting sports.
I convinced 3 of my friends, and 1 is still active sportsman. Rest of 2 just own 1-2 pistol(s) now, and shoot once a year level.

[DSB OUTDOORS]

Sorry, a few too many home-brews tonite.good for you!!!
It's all good brother!! I can, and am an Ass from time to time!! And It takes a Hell of a lot to offend me!! [Coffee]

[jerrymrc]

Coming from a Military family converting was not an issue. I have turned a few friends and the wife shoots. I have to say that Many in the modern Military outside of the combat arms do not understand. I am working on it in my little world. [Flower]

[birddog]

It's all good brother!! I can, and am an Ass from time to time

Cant we all.

[DSB OUTDOORS]

Ive converted quite a few, but the parent / Mom thing just floored me! I'm trying to get my brother and sister-in law to let me take my 6 yo niece out for a day shooting. But now, Grandma hears of that, and I'm out of the will. [panic]

[blacklabel]

My family is mixed but mostly understanding and supportive of my love of guns while not active themselves. I have very few friends, 2 really, and I've converted them both. My wife is on board with me protecting the family but I need to work on her realizing that the day will come that I need someone to watch my back as well.

[Bailey Guns]

Anti-gun & friend in the same sentence??[facepalm]

Sure: "I don't have a single friend that is anti-gun."

Works perfectly. And that's just another reason to like dogs more than people. I haven't met a single dog that was anti-gun or that has voted for a democrat.

[Dingo]

I would have no problem banding together with and protecting hardcore lefties in a SHTF situation. They would make excellent choices to carry my family's belongings, dig our shelters, and barter away to other people for provisions.

[Katastrophic]

Our dogs are more pro-gun than anyone I have ever met. When we take a gun out our older dog starts whining, shaking and wiggling her whole body. It's just about the happiest any being can possibly get without exploding and it makes my day every time I get to see it.

[mopar]

Fortunately, all my friends and family are all pro gun.....Whoops I forgot, I have a neice who went through POST training and became a police officer for about a year. She quit her job,went through nursing training,and is now an RN. I'm proud of her, but now she is anti gun,turned total LIB ,Obama supporter. Go figger. Still love her but what the F... happened?

[rondog]

It's funny, you never know......I have a young nephew that's your typical long-haired bearded hippie type, follows some band around the country like a Deadhead. He has a little camper trailer that he drags to the shows to camp in.

Went to his Facebook page to wish him happy birthday, and there's a photo of him standing in the doorway of his camper holding a Ruger Redhawk .44 mag! Last kid on Earth I'd ever expect to be a gunowner.

My stepson and his wife from Connecticut recently came to visit. She's a CT native, never fired a gun in her life, but she was very eager to go to the range and try every gun I could get in her hands, and loved it!

[hatidua]

Our dogs are more pro-gun than anyone I have ever met. When we take a gun out our older dog starts whining, shaking and wiggling her whole body. It's just about the happiest any being can possibly get without exploding and it makes my day every time I get to see it.

video. we need video.

[Blockhead]

You can't persuade any of the anti-gunners to our side if you refuse to associate with them. Courtesy, respect, and some good pro-gun arguments based on facts and law (and not ranting and frothing at the mouth) will do our community a lot of good. To each is own, but I'll talk to anyone about guns even if they don't agree with me.

[Madeinhb]

I would have no problem banding together with and protecting hardcore lefties in a SHTF situation. They would make excellent choices to carry my family's belongings, dig our shelters, and barter away to other people for provisions.

Oh smack. Love this!

[wreave]

It's interesting so many of you say you won't associate with people who are anti-gun.

A couple years ago, I was at a thing at my daughter's school, and heard one mom telling another mom (short version) that her child was playing at some other child's house, the one mom saw that the other mom had a Tea Party t-shirt on, and now won't let her daughter play there anymore. The mom to whom she was telling this story agreed, like it was the obvious conclusion. I was disgusted.

Frankly, this doesn't seem much different.

If we self-select out of social situations with people who don't agree with us on hot-button issues, how will we ever teach them? How will they come to know that gun owners are normal people who aren't crazed lunatics that are one bad day away from snapping and taking out half the city? I guess my political stance is hard to put in a box (I typically vote R, but have views that would be considered antithetical to someone of almost any political persuasion), so if I refused to have friends who didn't agree with me, I'd be pretty lonely. But really - yeah, people who have political views you don't agree with can really rub you the wrong way sometimes. Are they people you can have a friendly conversation with? Or are they jerks? If they're jerks, avoid spending time with them because they're jerks, not because of their political views. Likewise, if they're good people, enjoy the time you spend with them regardless of their politics.

I know plenty of pro-gun people (or people who share one or more of my other political views) that really aren't that great to spend time with. I know plenty of people that I disagree with on several key issues, but that are still good people. Sometimes we talk politics and I hope to sway them, or at least test my own beliefs and ability to back them up. Sometimes we avoid the controversies and discuss other things.

It just seems not only sad to pull ourselves into a closed community, but also contrary to our goals of expanding gun ownership and encouraging more people to take up shooting sports and personal defense.

[wreave]

Oh, yeah, but if they think they're coming over to my place if the SHTF, well, as I think I've seen on a sig block on this board - they'd better bring their daughters.

[Great-Kazoo]

I would have no problem banding together with and protecting hardcore lefties in a SHTF situation. They would make excellent choices to carry my family's belongings, dig our shelters, and barter away to other people for provisions.

I would & DO. I wouldn't let some flag burning Constitution cherry picking, limp dick pussy come with in 1-200 yds in a SHTF scenario. Let along allow them to have the honor of carrying items my family, your family and a lot of other families fought so hard to enjoy and protect since we tossed the brits out ,at the end of a GUN.

[Blockhead]

It's interesting so many of you say you won't associate with people who are anti-gun.

A couple years ago, I was at a thing at my daughter's school, and heard one mom telling another mom (short version) that her child was playing at some other child's house, the one mom saw that the other mom had a Tea Party t-shirt on, and now won't let her daughter play there anymore. The mom to whom she was telling this story agreed, like it was the obvious conclusion. I was disgusted.

Frankly, this doesn't seem much different.

If we self-select out of social situations with people who don't agree with us on hot-button issues, how will we ever teach them? How will they come to know that gun owners are normal people who aren't crazed lunatics that are one bad day away from snapping and taking out half the city? I guess my political stance is hard to put in a box (I typically vote R, but have views that would be considered antithetical to someone of almost any political persuasion), so if I refused to have friends who didn't agree with me, I'd be pretty lonely. But really - yeah, people who have political views you don't agree with can really rub you the wrong way sometimes. Are they people you can have a friendly conversation with? Or are they jerks? If they're jerks, avoid spending time with them because they're jerks, not because of their political views. Likewise, if they're good people, enjoy the time you spend with them regardless of their politics.

I know plenty of pro-gun people (or people who share one or more of my other political views) that really aren't that great to spend time with. I know plenty of people that I disagree with on several key issues, but that are still good people. Sometimes we talk politics and I hope to sway them, or at least test my own beliefs and ability to back them up. Sometimes we avoid the controversies and discuss other things.

It just seems not only sad to pull ourselves into a closed community, but also contrary to our goals of expanding gun ownership and encouraging more people to take up shooting sports and personal defense.


Well said.

[Dryfli]

I had a young guy come to work for me a few years ago long hair vegetarian. We spent a lot of time together on the road, over 47000 miles a year and staying in hotels 5 days a week so we had time to talk. Long story short after becoming friends and taking him shooting a few times he now own several guns and eats meat. I really think if you take someone shooting and take the mystery and "fear" out of gun almost anyone will like shooting. I say almost anyone because there will always be libtards that you just can't reach....

[Great-Kazoo]

I had a young guy come to work for me a few years ago long hair vegetarian. We spent a lot of time together on the road, over 47000 miles a year and staying in hotels 5 days a week so we had time to talk. Long story short after becoming friends and taking him shooting a few times he now own several guns and eats meat. I really think if you take someone shooting and take the mystery and "fear" out of gun almost anyone will like shooting. I say almost anyone because there will always be libtards that you just can't reach....

Those are the ones i classify as AG. Nothing you do will ever change their min. Flash back how ever many years ago to denver. A venomous AG state rep was being mugged / robbed and who does she call? Not 911 but her neighbor the Gun Nut. It went south when he took a shot a the fleeing perp and hit him in the back.[facepalm]

[Slapps74]

Educate them don't segregate them. But realize that some will never agree or become indifferent.

[sniper7]

sometimes you just have to get new friends. or tell them not to bring it up...you don't bring it up and leave it at that.

[bogie]

Sure: "I don't have a single friend that is anti-gun."

Works perfectly. And that's just another reason to like dogs more than people. I haven't met a single dog that was anti-gun or that has voted for a democrat.

Have you ever heard the theory that dogs are democrats and cats are republicans? It's a rigged theory but kind of funny to read..

[geo351]

I have a die hard lib in my office, I actually call him a republicrat, I got him into shooting,he has two firearms now,he is seeing the light slowly !!
anti gun bunny huggers tree huggers, need not try to be a friend, I have told them when shit goes bad my house is full, the ones I trust and believe in like values, can stand behind me!! My craftsmen tool box and chain saw is all I need ;-)

[BPTactical]

Our dogs are more pro-gun than anyone I have ever met. When we take a gun out our older dog starts whining, shaking and wiggling her whole body. It's just about the happiest any being can possibly get without exploding and it makes my day every time I get to see it.

Funny you mention that, my Sheltie loves lasers, I made the mistake of pulling a Streamlight off of a pistol one night and making him play. Now if I open the safe he goes nuts.

[rbeau30]

I don't associate with people of these beliefs anymore. When the Nazis were in power in Germany those who conformed were essentially spies for the regime. And that is how one got taken away for re-education or to the showers, for having beliefs not in line with what we should be thinking or acting.

[Bailey Guns]

It's interesting so many of you say you won't associate with people who are anti-gun.

A couple years ago, I was at a thing at my daughter's school, and heard one mom telling another mom (short version) that her child was playing at some other child's house, the one mom saw that the other mom had a Tea Party t-shirt on, and now won't let her daughter play there anymore. The mom to whom she was telling this story agreed, like it was the obvious conclusion. I was disgusted.

Frankly, this doesn't seem much different.

If we self-select out of social situations with people who don't agree with us on hot-button issues, how will we ever teach them? How will they come to know that gun owners are normal people who aren't crazed lunatics that are one bad day away from snapping and taking out half the city? I guess my political stance is hard to put in a box (I typically vote R, but have views that would be considered antithetical to someone of almost any political persuasion), so if I refused to have friends who didn't agree with me, I'd be pretty lonely. But really - yeah, people who have political views you don't agree with can really rub you the wrong way sometimes. Are they people you can have a friendly conversation with? Or are they jerks? If they're jerks, avoid spending time with them because they're jerks, not because of their political views. Likewise, if they're good people, enjoy the time you spend with them regardless of their politics.

I know plenty of pro-gun people (or people who share one or more of my other political views) that really aren't that great to spend time with. I know plenty of people that I disagree with on several key issues, but that are still good people. Sometimes we talk politics and I hope to sway them, or at least test my own beliefs and ability to back them up. Sometimes we avoid the controversies and discuss other things.

It just seems not only sad to pull ourselves into a closed community, but also contrary to our goals of expanding gun ownership and encouraging more people to take up shooting sports and personal defense.

I didn't say I didn't associate with them. I said I don't have any friends that are liberal/democrats or anti-gun. Big difference. I can socialize and be cordial with anyone...doesn't mean I like them or consider them to be my friend.

Why would I want to associate with someone whom I consider to be supporting politicians and a government that wants to do things that are happening right now in Colorado? I wouldn't. I consider liberals to be my enemy. Plain and simple.

[buffalobo]

I didn't say I didn't associate with them. I said I don't have any friends that are liberal/democrats or anti-gun. Big difference. I can socialize and be cordial with anyone...doesn't mean I like them or consider them to be my friend.

Why would I want to associate with someone whom I consider to be supporting politicians and a government that wants to do things that are happening right now in Colorado? I wouldn't. I consider liberals to be my enemy. Plain and simple.



^^^This +1

[waxthis]

My mother is anti gun. As a matter of fact, she was so disgusted with the republican party she voted for Obama twice!! Needless to say, this has put a huge strain on our relationship. Sux.

[Bailey Guns]

Have you ever heard the theory that dogs are democrats and cats are republicans? It's a rigged theory but kind of funny to read..

Yeah, that is funny. I love the "My dog is a democrat" story.

[DHCO]

The majority of people I work with are democrats. I still offer to take them shooting whenever I can. I've gotten one or two interested in guns so far. The best way to convert someone is not to badger them with data that gun control doesn't work but let them actually shoot a gun. The scary mystique of guns goes away once you realize they're just machines and the person holding the gun controls what they do.

[wreave]

I consider liberals to be my enemy. Plain and simple.

And that strikes me as a perfect encapsulation of the problem.

Many of the liberals see us the same way.

Do you think we can improve the state of our country by squaring up on opposite sides and calling each other "my enemy"?

[jmg8550]

First thing I asked when I met my wife: what are your views on guns? She said she grew up around them, and her whole family hunts. At that point I proceeded with the relationship. No way in hell could I date an anti. And I chose not to have anti friends. I'll still associate with them, just won't be friends.

[Singlestack]

Relative to guns, my own experience says that if you can get an anti to go shooting with you, you have a chance. Once they get over the very, very common "fear of an inanimate object" that many non-shooters have, they may well enjoy shooting and even want to go again. That is when you have the possibility of them seeing that pro-2A people aren't deranged, rednecks, stupid, or any of the other pejoratives the leftist media routinely distributes. Then they start to question much of the "conventional wisdom" around guns. I have seen profound changes when they question other antis and are shouted down, faced with false facts, or ignored - then they become pro-2A. Every anti I know that is a non-shooter and has continually refused to experience shooting at all has not changed one bit. They are comfortable just reciting the left talking points and agreeing to demonize gun owners. They aren't my friends, but I do interact with many of them in my professional life and some are extended family.

[jackthewall81]

Relative to guns, my own experience says that if you can get an anti to go shooting with you, you have a chance. Once they get over the very, very common "fear of an inanimate object" that many non-shooters have, they may well enjoy shooting and even want to go again. That is when you have the possibility of them seeing that pro-2A people aren't deranged, rednecks, stupid, or any of the other pejoratives the leftist media routinely distributes. Then they start to question much of the "conventional wisdom" around guns. I have seen profound changes when they question other antis and are shouted down, faced with false facts, or ignored - then they become pro-2A. Every anti I know that is a non-shooter and has continually refused to experience shooting at all has not changed one bit. They are comfortable just reciting the left talking points and agreeing to demonize gun owners. They aren't my friends, but I do interact with many of them in my professional life and some are extended family.
That's what I do. Plus ramble every day about governmental tyranny (which my gf still thinks is impossible) and how much fun collecting, shooting, learning and building Is. Eventually after enough time, they ask to go shooting and often cover the ammo expenses.

[trlcavscout]

I dont have anti-gun friends, I dont even have an anti-gun brother. If you dont respect my rights go F your self.

[trlcavscout]

My mother is anti gun. As a matter of fact, she was so disgusted with the republican party she voted for Obama twice!! Needless to say, this has put a huge strain on our relationship. Sux.

Glock21 has seen my mom on facebook, she is "come and get them" haha. My MIL is a dumb shit lib, but she wouldnt vote for osama do to his african heritage. She wont argue with me over unions or guns though because she knows better.

[trlcavscout]

I would & DO. I wouldn't let some flag burning Constitution cherry picking, limp dick pussy come with in 1-200 yds in a SHTF scenario. Let along allow them to have the honor of carrying items my family, your family and a lot of other families fought so hard to enjoy and protect since we tossed the brits out ,at the end of a GUN.

I agree.

[Drucker]

And that strikes me as a perfect encapsulation of the problem.

Many of the liberals see us the same way.

Do you think we can improve the state of our country by squaring up on opposite sides and calling each other "my enemy"?


(in reguards to firearms) I guarantee you that is the way you are thought of by your liberal friends..... You are an enemy of right thinking and progressive minded people, and a danger to society for owning a firearm. While the 2nd amendment was nice in its time and was for hunters, no one needs to hunt for their food anymore. And owning an AR-15/Asssault Rifle should be and will be crime. We are just thinking of the children and leading you to a proper outlook for a modern America.

[Kraven251]

Why are people polarized, we finally reached a point that we will not, cannot, and should not ever compromise on. I have had more than a few friendships go to hell over this, but you know what...I can respect their right to their opinion, they couldn't respect my right to mine. Also, some of them having known me most of my life, many of them trusting me to watch their children, told me I shouldn't own an AR-15 and that they should all be confiscated.

too many people refuse to understand that the cause is not the firearm, and I don't have time for them in my life

[USAFGopherMike]

I work with a bunch of em, many too young to know jack about why we have rights, just that they agree with Obutthead and generally go though life with blinders on. I don't pretend to relate to their leftist thought process and spend a lot of time antagonizing them with what will you do when scenarious.

[mrghost]

I don't know anyone who is overtly anti-gun, but I know several that are indifferent, which is just as bad.

[Bailey Guns]

And that strikes me as a perfect encapsulation of the problem.

Many of the liberals see us the same way.

Do you think we can improve the state of our country by squaring up on opposite sides and calling each other "my enemy"?

Here's the difference. As a constitutionally minded conservative, my goals in life are not to infringe on their rights or their beliefs or to tell them what's best for them in their lives. Liberals/progressives don't share that philosophy. They have no idea what the Bill of Rights, specifically the Second Amendment, means. And it's not for lack of information. The meaning of the Constitution is out there for anyone seeking the truth. Liberals/progressives are also responsible for the social and moral decay of our society over the last 50 years.

I'm not apologetic in my beliefs. I won't appease liberals/progressives. I won't apologize for calling them my enemy. If you feel that's wrong, so be it. I'll explain my position to you but I won't ever tell you you're not entitled to your opinion because it's wrong...even if I believe it to be wrong. That's the difference between me and a liberal/progressive.

Yes, I do believe we can improve the country by defeating our enemies. You're certainly entitled to feel otherwise.

[USAFGopherMike]

My Mother was anti-gun (conservative) her whole life. Now she is alone and getting older, she worries about being a target and most of her senior friends carry. On a recent visit I took her to the range and she had a blast. Now she wants a revolver, preferably .357 S&W.