Magpul more vocal than NRA in CO?

[Eggysrun]

Maybe I missed them while the 4 bills were going through the house, but it seemed like MAGPUL was way more vocal and actively FIGHTING against 1224. Anyone notice this? Am I wrong? The NRA just seemed awfully quiet from my perspective.

Comments? Anyone see the NRA in action and help fight for our gun rights?

[two shoes]

The only thing that I have seen them do is send Keene to speak with Hickenlooper on the 8th of this month... that has been it. They haven't responded to emails pointing out there lack of support here in the "Test State" of Colorado

[pickenup]

Haven't heard a word from the NRA.
No call to action, nothing......

[two shoes]

Haven't heard a word from the NRA.
No call to action, nothing......
I got an email from the ILA but we are already doing this...:


Colorado: House Passes Most Sweeping Anti-Gun Legislation in Recent History

http://graphics.nra.org/ila/leg_alert/line.gifIn the face of tens of thousands of gun owners, sportsmen and shooting enthusiasts, anti-gun zealots leading the rights-infringing charge in Denver passed a package of anti-gun bills in the state House seeking to undermine the Second Amendment in Colorado.

House passage of the bills below should be a wake-up call to everyone across this diverse and freedom-loving state. Your rights are under an all-out assault by those who see you and your way of life as a problem that needs to be fixed.

House Bill 1224 (http://www.nramedia.org/t/1162786/77884931/21948/0/) – Bans magazines with a capacity greater than fifteen rounds. (Passed 34-31)

House Bill 1226 (http://www.nramedia.org/t/1162786/77884931/21943/0/) – Repeals current law allowing individuals with a concealed carry permit to carry a firearm for self-defense on a college or university campus. (Passed 34-31)

House Bill 1228 (http://www.nramedia.org/t/1162786/77884931/21949/0/) – Imposes a “gun tax” for a background check when purchasing a firearm. (Passed 33-32)

House Bill 1229 (http://www.nramedia.org/t/1162786/77884931/21950/0/) – Criminalizes the private transfer of a firearm. (Passed 36-29)

The votes taken today by those House members in favor of these bills will put hundreds out of work in Colorado, eliminate hundreds of millions of dollars in economic activity that will go to other states and make criminals out of unsuspecting law-abiding citizens.

Our fight is far from over, as this extreme anti-gun legislation still has to pass in the state Senate and then go to Governor Hickenlooper for his signature.

WE NEED YOUR HELP TODAY! Call your state Senator and Governor John Hickenlooper TODAY and respectfully urge them to oppose the anti-gun bills above. Hold your state Senator accountable and ask him or her how they will vote on these bills.

Contact information for your state Senator can be found here (http://www.nramedia.org/t/1162786/77884931/20700/0/). Contact information for Governor John Hickenlooper by email can be found here (http://www.nramedia.org/t/1162786/77884931/21947/0/)and by phone at (303) 866-2471 (tel:%28303%29%20866-2471) or 303-866-2885 (tel:303-866-2885).

Please stay tuned to www.nraila.org (http://www.nraila.org/) for further updates and information.

[newracer]

I received some postcards about the bill and to contact my house rep, but that was after the vote. Might have been because I rarely check my mailbox though.

[mb504]

I received some postcards about the bill and to contact my house rep, but that was after the vote. Might have been because I rarely check my mailbox though.

I've gotten a couple postcards and 1/2 dozen emails from the NRA about the CO bills. I don't think it would be resonable for te to call members. It would have be great if they could have ran radio/tv ads, but I've heard most media won't run NRA ads.

[Great-Kazoo]

Been receiving numerous e-m's from the ILA section of the NRA.
Magpul has a very vested interest in these, not to say the NRA doesn't. However a signing by the gov basically outlaws a LEGAL business. I watched it happen in Jan, in NY, tuesday a wall of guns, wed morn a Closed for Business Sign on the door.

You see Dudley place a full page ad in any paper? he's local.

Once again the AG's tactic of how they won the CO election, is in play for Gun control, death by a 1000 local laws. The NRA has a lot of irons in the fire, do they drop the national Fight and devote to every state, or keep up at the federal level?

Once Hick signs all the GC bills O will tout how a CCW friendly state was responsible enough to pass Sensible Gun laws that did not infringe on the 2nd.
"Now we the people must act nationally to do what Colorado and other states have done locally to prevent another Newtown, Aurora, Columbine". Just wait, if not word for word, i'll be damned if i am not this > <close on what he says.

[spqrzilla]

I've been getting emails from the NRA almost daily.

[sniper7]

Hopefully they have some strings to pull

[mb504]

Hopefully they have some strings to pull

More important you and me have pull strings, write letters, send emails, and make calls. We cannot just assume someone else will carry the water for us.

[Bailey Guns]

I've received countless emails and phone calls from the NRA. I can't say what their lobbyists are doing behind the scenes because I'm not privy to that information. I'm not ready to give up on the NRA...far from it. I'm confident there's plenty of arm-twisting going on in the background. There's probably a lot going on that none of us know about.

But on to a bigger point...

Why attempt to deflect blame on to the NRA for what the democrat-controlled state elected "representatives" are trying to do our liberties? The entire premise of the OP seems counter-productive to me.

[longbow]

I got a phone call last week looking for a donation and gave them some money. I have been a lifer since the late 70's and haven't donated since Slick Willy was givin it to us the last time.

[robertcolorado2009]

Jim, I truly believe you've perfectly nailed what the script is for Obama and the national GC/bans. You have nailed it! Very very astute my good man.

[Great-Kazoo]

I've received countless emails and phone calls from the NRA. I can't say what their lobbyists are doing behind the scenes because I'm not privy to that information. I'm not ready to give up on the NRA...far from it. I'm confident there's plenty of arm-twisting going on in the background. There's probably a lot going on that none of us know about.

But on to a bigger point...

Why attempt to deflect blame on to the NRA for what the democrat-controlled state elected "representatives" are trying to do our liberties? The entire premise of the OP seems counter-productive to me.

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Hopefully they have some strings to pull



More important you and me have pull strings, write letters, send emails, and make calls. We can just assume someone else will carry the water for us.

[hollohas]

The State NRA rep spoke at the committee hearings. He was given far more time then the other speakers. I have received emails and snailmails daily from the NRA ILA regarding Colorado.

Colorado gun control and the NRA were the focus of Glenn Beck's radio show this morning too. This is getting national attention.

added: the NRA won't drop this if/when the bills become law. They have been very effective lately taking these anti 2A laws to court. They have deeper pockets and more lawyers than any other pro 2A lobby. However, in the past they have been able to focus on one or two states at a time. Right now we have many states and the Feds going after the 2A so there is no doubt they will be spread thin. This is a multi front war.

[StagLefty]

There's a show on the Sportsman's channel at 3 pm everyday on NRA legislation. Colorado has been getting a lot of attention lately.

[hatidua]

There are ample members of this very site that can't be bothered to join or donate to the NRA or any other pro-2A organization. Spend plenty on a new firearm? - sure! Spend $35 on an NRA membership? -nope.

[BPTactical]

The Colorado lobbyist for the NRA did testify in the Judicial Committee hearings last week along with RMGO, CSSA and a couple other organizations.
I would imagine they are directing the majority of their efforts at the national level.

[reapur]

The only thing that I have seen them do is send Keene to speak with Hickenlooper on the 8th of this month... that has been it. They haven't responded to emails pointing out there lack of support here in the "Test State" of Colorado

Amen! I sent them several asking where the hell they are on this, haven't heard a thing back.

[MarkCO]

In the FWIW category, after hearing one NRA staffer talk in CO, I am glad they are not there en masse. Our small group has been getting access. When I spoke with a Senator yesterday, his first words were "Oh yeah, I heard about you." The Ds are anti-NRA so I don't even tell them I belong to the NRA. If I get asked, I say yes, but just for the insurance. Then I get asked if I belong to RMGO, I say No, and then they start to talk. If we all stood under then banner of the NRA, or RMGO, we would lose. It is the diversity, the business revenue and the out of staters that are starting to get a few of the Senators to think about the whole thing and not just sending a bad bill to Hickenlooper.

[osok-308]

I've gotten emails from the NRA, but it doesn't seen like they did much. For the money i pay each year, I expect a lot more. Magpul has earned a ton of respect from me in the past month.

[StagLefty]

^ If your talking about your dues-they don't go toward legislation fights. The (I'm not sure of the proper term) ILA donations to the NRA go to that.

[Aloha_Shooter]

I've gotten e-mails and phone calls from NRA-ILA about twice a week for the last month -- and they seemed more toward "take action, call/write your legislators today" than "send us money".

[mb504]

I've gotten e-mails and phone calls from NRA-ILA about twice a week for the last month -- and they seemed more toward "take action, call/write your legislators today" than "send us money".

Same here. And donations made to NRA-ILA support the fight, membership dues help mainly to show how larg the member base is.

[osok-308]

I am aware that dues don't go directly to the ILA, I'm speaking more about donation money. However i do believe i spoke without thinking. They have called me reminding me to call my reps. i do get that the NRA is the NATIONAL riflemans association, so naturally their efforts have been more national in an attempt to kill feinsteins bills.

[carnplanenut]

Magpul has earned a ton of respect from me in the past month.

I couldn't agree more. I am supporting them by spending my money with them!

Jason

[Great-Kazoo]

I couldn't agree more. I am supporting them by spending my money with them!

Jason

Unfortunately with prices the way they are MP is still seeing their base price in revenue returns. Some vendor sells a magpul mag for $30-50 doesn't mean MP benefits any more than they did @ $12.95

[osok-308]

I couldn't agree more. I am supporting them by spending my money with them!

Jason

If they had not already impressed me with their exceptional products, their actions alone would make A lifetime customer out of me.

[aryntha]

There are a whole lot of fudds in Colorado; and maybe the NRA just figures that. Or they feel that a mag limit isn't their concern. Lots of gun owners in Colorado, but a lot of folks who feel that grand-pappy's goose stick is just fine. I've seen the most activity in forums like this, *true* grassroots, and Magpul, a local home-grown company and their affiliates.

Certainly concerned that it won't be enough, though.

[carnplanenut]

Unfortunately with prices the way they are MP is still seeing their base price in revenue returns. Some vendor sells a magpul mag for $30-50 doesn't mean MP benefits any more than they did @ $12.95

It can't hurt their business right now that everyone is sold out and willing to pay for their products. Most stores have raised the prices of a magazine to $30-$85. This is supply and demand. I wouldn't be surprised to see a MSRP increase from Magpul before this is all over. It's just supply and demand. I just hope it's a $1-2 increase instead of a $12+ increase

Jason